P Line issues 2024
928JLH reply :
Sunday I snapped off two quality largies recently on hooksets using P Line. Anyone else have breakage issues with it? I habitually check for Knicks and abrasions, and always lubricate when cinching down. Using a two turn clinch knot.
johnD. reply :
P line , what ? If you don't have a nick in one of your guides , probably just a bad spool of line or a bad area in the spool.
ratherbfishin1 reply :
Probably the line. While I never had issues with breakage when I had it, many members on here hate that stuff.
928JLH reply :
On 4/11/2019 at 11:12 PM, johnD. said:P line , what ? If you don't have a nick in one of your guides , probably just a bad spool of line or a bad area in the spool.
Flouroclear. Guides are good to go. I use the flouroclear fun fishing for money savings.
matbellon3 reply :
When i was trying P line fluoroclear i would have a lot of knot strength issues the the best knot I found for it was the fish n' fools knot witch even then I would still have frequent break offs at the knot. After about a month I had enough and got rid of it.
NYWayfarer reply :
On 4/11/2019 at 11:31 PM, 928JLH said:Flouroclear. Guides are good to go. I use the flouroclear fun fishing for money savings.
What size line?
How old was it?
WRB reply :
What is a 2 turn clinch knot?
Tom
928JLH reply :
On 4/12/2019 at 2:15 AM, NYWayfarer said:What size line?
How old was it?
15lb new spool 2 weeks old. I keep all line inside my closet out of the heat of the garage.
On 4/12/2019 at 2:17 AM, WRB said:What is a 2 turn clinch knot?
Tom
Tom it's what berkley refers to as the Trilene knot.
WRB reply :
On 4/12/2019 at 2:28 AM, 928JLH said:15lb new spool 2 weeks old. I keep all line inside my closet out of the heat of the garage.
Tom it's what berkley refers to as the Trilene knot.
Trilene knot is basically a 5-7 turn improved clinch knot, tied properly should give 80% knot strength. San Deigo jam knot is more reliable with FC type line.
Tie the to 2 lures without hooks on a 2' length of line and snap the lures apart to test the line, 15 lb should break easily doing this.Then try tieing your Trilene knot on 1 end and the SD jam knot on the other, should help you decide which knot to use.
There should be mfr date code on the spool; eg 3118 = 31st week of 2018.
Tom
PS, not a fan of FluoroClear line.
928JLH reply :
On 4/12/2019 at 2:40 AM, WRB said:Trilene knot is basically a 5-7 turn improved clinch knot, tied properly should give 80% knot strength. San Deigo jam knot is more reliable with FC type line.
Tie the to 2 lures without hooks on a 2' length of line and snap the lures apart to test the line, 15 lb should break easily doing this.Then try tieing your Trilene knot on 1 end and the SD jam knot on the other, should help you decide which knot to use.
There should be mfr date code on the spool; eg 3118 = 31st week of 2018.
Tom
PS, not a fan of FluoroClear line.
Awesome great information. I already tossed the line out and bought some red lable. Still a good cost effective line from what I've read.
Never tried the SD Jam but I will this weekend. Thank you.
Jig Man reply :
If you haven't tried it yet, you should try the Pitzen or 16/20 knot. It is very similar to the San Diego Jam but way faster to tie and as strong.
Ratherbfishing reply :
The last P line I had an issue with was at the baseball stadium. You see, I'd had too many beers and the line to the restroom was all the wayout the door and waaaaaay down the hall.
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
On 4/12/2019 at 3:08 AM, Jig Man said:If you haven't tried it yet, you should try the Pitzen or 16/20 knot. It is very similar to the San Diego Jam but way faster to tie and as strong.
Aren’t they the same knot?
Darren. reply :
Never really had a problem with floroclear. Actually like the stuff, but
use Yo Zuri Hybrid more because I have a lot more of it....
PLFC is a bit slicker, so the knot needs to be solid.
Team9nine reply :
On 4/11/2019 at 11:31 PM, 928JLH said:Flouroclear. Guides are good to go. I use the flouroclear fun fishing for money savings.
There's your problem 
Saves you money but costs you fish. A search of these forums would have shown you that next to Vanish, Fluoroclear is the next best thing for making fish disappear 
Now go out and buy some good line 
new2BC4bass reply :
I spooled up some 10# Fluoroclear for my Florida visit last year. I found out the first day that it broke too easily. Luckily I had spare reels with me so I switched that reel out.
Munkin reply :
100% Floro PLine I have been using for at least a decade and have never had any problems. Floroclear I have heard some stories about but have never used it myself.
Allen
Fishin Dad reply :
Fluoroclear is the only line I have had problems with. I love Pline 100% and Tactical. Great line. Find it on sale and it's even better. Tactical is 50% off right now at Cabelas.
5by3 reply :
I agree with some of the others. I’ve also had issues with fluoroclear. The line casts far, but the fact that it’s so soft and supple sacrifices its overall strength imo. I mostly use it for panfishing now.
Jig Man reply :
On 4/12/2019 at 8:56 AM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:Aren’t they the same knot?
They are very similar but not the same knot. The variation comes after the wraps. The S D Jam goes through the gap in the line next to the hook then back to the loop while the Pitzen just goes back to the loop. That difference is what makes it so fast to tie because you can use the bait as a pendulum and let it swing instead of wrapping the line around and around.
WRB reply :
With SD jam knot using the lure weight to back wrap the double line towards the lure is standard practice and easy to put the tag end through bottom and top openings. The difference is the SD jam knot is snugged up then slide down the line to the lure and cinched tight. Very easy knot to tie when fishing.
Tom
BassWhole! reply :
On 4/12/2019 at 8:56 AM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:Aren’t they the same knot?
One is like that crazy girlfriend in college...
lmbfisherman reply :
I found the Trilene knot sucks on P Line Floroclear. I used the standard Palomar Knot and I haven't lost fish since.
RB 77 reply :
On 4/11/2019 at 11:31 PM, 928JLH said:Flouroclear. Guides are good to go. I use the flouroclear fun fishing for money savings.
This is your problem. Breakage has always been an issue with this line for myself and my buddies. The CXX is SUPER strong and I like the Moss Green color for stained water. It does have a lot of memory though.
On 4/12/2019 at 9:51 AM, Team9nine said:There's your problem
Yes. Saying goes for me with these lines: Vanish makes fish vanish from the end of your line and FlouroClear clears fish from the end of your line...
Allen Der reply :
On 4/12/2019 at 2:54 AM, 928JLH said:Awesome great information. I already tossed the line out and bought some red lable. Still a good cost effective line from what I've read.
Never tried the SD Jam but I will this weekend. Thank you.
i've had trilene knots slip on 10lb red label.
moguy1973 reply :
Fluoroclear is crap. A buddy of mine uses(d) it and broke off at least once on casts with it every trip we went on and I always told him to stop using it.
I use CX Premium and CXX and have never had a problem of breaking off at all. I find those two are super strong and really easy to use.
GreenPig reply :
P line was the first fluorocarbon line I tried. Broke off 7 fish with 3 different knots on the hook sets. Didn't use fluorocarbon for years. Tried Seaguar and have had zero problems.
johnD. reply :
For the most part , in my experiences the trilene knot only works well on trilene lines. Even then I won't use it for heavy duty applications.. Palomar knot everything else.
LonnieP reply :
Try the P-line Tactical. It’s a lot stronger than Fluoroclear
zell_pop1 reply :
On 4/13/2019 at 1:24 AM, moguy1973 said:Fluoroclear is crap. A buddy of mine uses(d) it and broke off at least once on casts with it every trip we went on and I always told him to stop using it.
I use CX Premium and CXX and have never had a problem of breaking off at all. I find those two are super strong and really easy to use.
X2
fin reply :
I suspect the quality control during the manufacture of Fluoroclear must be really bad, and the people that say they’ve never had a problem with it have just been lucky. I’ll never buy another spool of it.
I went through several spools of it using it as leader material, never having obvious problems until one spool that was really bad. I couldn’t even tighten a knot without it breaking on most parts of the spool, other parts of the spool were fine. It made me wonder about all the sporadic breaks I’d had over the years.
ChrisD46 reply :
On 4/12/2019 at 9:51 AM, Team9nine said:There's your problem
+1 ... I was in denial for a long time and can only use Fluoroclear with a loose drag and ignoring the # lb. test rating and remembering to go by the line diameter instead - Fluoroclear breaks very close to the stated line rating . Flouroclear #15 lb. strength is about equivalent to other brands #10 lb. or #12 lb. (even that may be generous) .
928JLH reply :
Thank you all for your feedback. Won't be using it anymore. I did order P Line Tactical to try. Hopefully it's good and Cabela's had them 50% off. Seems bizzare the flouroclear isn't trustworthy. I had higher hopes for Japanese manufacturing.
On a side note the SD Jam knot mentioned earlier is awesome. Spent a few hours watching knot videos learning new things. My knot choices weren't the best, and I was stuck in old habits.
J Francho reply :
On 4/15/2019 at 10:03 PM, 928JLH said:I had higher hopes for Japanese manufacturing.
I though G. Pucci & Sons Inc. was in San Francisco.
sully420 reply :
I went the cheap route last year with the p line floroclear and its garbage. Use a good mono or floro. A clinch knot should have at least 6 turns not 2.
928JLH reply :
On 4/15/2019 at 10:12 PM, J Francho said:I though G. Pucci & Sons Inc. was in San Francisco.
Flouroclear is made in Japan. That's what really surprised me.
On 4/15/2019 at 10:44 PM, sully420 said:I went the cheap route last year with the p line floroclear and its garbage. Use a good mono or floro. A clinch knot should have at least 6 turns not 2.
Always used 6 to 7 turns. Much stronger knot options out there to utilize.
Lead Head reply :
I used floroclear for a few years without issue. Then it happened... 15lb line breaking on every hookset. Switched to a older spool and the problem went away. Went out and bought another new spool and the break offs returned. 2 bad spools in a 3 year stretch (6 spools total) was too much, I stay away from the stuff now.
Gorris317 reply :
Floroclear has given me nothing but problems. Broke off quite a few times. Switched to a San deigo jam knot and it still didn't help. Ended up switching to Yo-Zuri Hybrid and haven't looked back.
ike8120 reply :
I started using KK copolymer line. Price is reasonable(off Ebay then Amazaon) and seems to work good.
Fairtax4me reply :
I use 8lb Flouroclear as leader material on my medium spinning setup. Tie an 8 turn uni-knot and I have had no problems with break offs unless it was clearly due to abrasion.
Keep in mind it is a budget line. I wouldn’t say it’s garbage, but it’s cheap to buy for a reason.
Flouroclear is NOT a true fluorocarbon line, it does not have the strength of a true flouro line.
That said, I don’t use it as main line. I did try it in 15lb on medium heavy baitcast setup and it was too stretchy for my liking, plus it tended to have memory issues, and it was not as abrasion resistant as I would like. I fish a lot of brush and wood cover, and Seaguar AbrazX has done very well for me for several years now.
I tried Pline tactical in two different sizes last year and had problems with abrasion on both of them.
I do use Pline Xbraid Teflon Coated in 10, 15, 40, 50, and 65lb sizes and love it! I literally can’t break the 65. The only downside I’ve found is it’s so slick I have to tie it through the holes in the spool or else it will slip around the spool.
J Francho reply :
On 4/16/2019 at 3:22 AM, 928JLH said:Flouroclear is made in Japan. That's what really surprised me.
Thanks for that info. I had bad experience with Fluoroclear as well. I think, like Vanish, it's actually designed for walleye fishing, not bass. We subject our line to much more abuse. Both lines are two of the biggest selling lines for over a decade, so they can't be "crap" as many state in this thread. I think they're just the wrong tools.
fishballer06 reply :
While out fishing with my buddy this weekend, I got onto a jig bite and he quickly switched to a jig. On the first bite he got, he broke off on the hook set. I asked him what line he was using and he replied "brand new 20 pound Fluoroclear". I was then a believer of all the guys who claim Fluoroclear issues. I was using 15lb P Line Tactical that day and I had zero issues over the 9 fish I caught on a hard hook setting jig bite.
Boomstick reply :
I bought a spool of Fluoroclear, 15lbs for my son. At first, it's great, no issues with knot strength (uni knot) but after only a couple weeks, the memory in the line was so bad that it was looking like it was a spinning reel with line twist. He wasn't fishing anything on it that would cause line twist either. I switched to 15lb Yo Zuri hybrid and had no issues. In fact, I think I put that line on in mid July last year and it lasted the rest of the season with some occasional KVD without a problem.
At the start of this season, I threw some of what we had left on for early season fishing when it could still get below freezing so I figured better that than good line. We had the same problems. I never saw line on a casting reel behave that way.
BoatSquirrel reply :
You will find a long stream of posts on this site bemoaning lost lures and fish when using fluoroclear. I have experienced the random breakoffs others have written about. Watched my brother cast three lures in a row off with this line. It is just not dependable. Line is one of the places in fishing where you truly get what you pay for.
928JLH reply :
On 4/14/2019 at 2:36 AM, LonnieP said:Try the P-line Tactical. It’s a lot stronger than Fluoroclear
Took advantage of the buy one get one deal on the Tactical. I was pretty nervous trying it out. It is amazing. Cast super smooth, very low memory. I brought up a 4 pound largemouth and the big branch it was stuck in today. Impressive line.
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