St. Croix Rage Rod (1St One Snapped, Second Creaks) 2024
jyu87 reply :
So I just got this one New Year's eve for a present from my father. I love how light it is. Paired it with a Abu Garcia Revo STX. Brought it back from and was practicing pitching in my living room when all of a sudden the tip literally snaps right off. It sounded so brittle that I was sitting there shocked.
Got it replaced. Brought the new one home, now the bottom portion of the rod where the reel sits creaks everytime I am motioning a cast/shake(?). Is this normal? Am I being paranoid?
I have another combo on it's way. Got the St. Croix Mojo Bass with Lews Speed Spool LFS. Starting to get scared. Lol.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Alonerankin2 reply :
Nope, it shouldn't creak, squeak or anything at all. Just hold your reel.
jyu87 reply :
On 1/3/2015 at 8:53 AM, Alonerankin2 said:Nope, it shouldn't creak, squeak or anything at all. Just hold your reel.
Ugh! Yeah it's quite annoying. Sometimes you don't hear it but mostly you can get it to make the noise. So annoying, now I have to take it right back and explain why this one isn't going to work as well.
MarkH024 reply :
I have two Rage rods for a few seasons which have been great. Nothing like you describe ao I suspect you got some duds. I'd return it just to be safe.
Blues19 reply :
That stinks, man. One of those things that keeps you from getting another. If you are worried at all, return it and probably go with something completely different.
Angry John reply :
The rage is made in mexico along with the rest of their rods below an avid. I buy avids for that reason.
adam32 reply :
On 1/3/2015 at 9:46 AM, Angry John said:The rage is made in mexico along with the rest of their rods below an avid. I buy avids for that reason.
Premiers are made in usa. I'm not a fan of them though, along with any st.croix rods below the avids.
flyfisher reply :
Premiers are still made in the US FYI....
I have owned Rage rods for 2 or maybe even three seasons now and nary a complaint. Does the rod creak with no reel mounted?
ChrisWi reply :
I stopped buying st croixs. They're heavy rods and for the money there are better rods. That being said I still do fish with my st Croix rods, just won't be buying more.
aavery2 reply :
On 1/3/2015 at 10:16 AM, ChrisWi said:I stopped buying st croixs. They're heavy rods and for the money there are better rods. That being said I still do fish with my st Croix rods, just won't be buying more.
So you have me curious about how you have come to this conclusion. Which St. Croix rods have you owned?
mjseverson24 reply :
how do you break a rod while pitching??? there should be little to no load on the rod, so how did it break???
Mitch
BaitMonkey1984 reply :
I have had two of these rods. Kicked one over the side of boat while unhooking a fish, maybe I should tell people I just went Ike and make the story more interesting. Liked the rod so much I immediately bought the same setup the next day, and it is my go to wacky rigged senko rod. Sensitive tip but plenty of backbone. I never felt like I was underpowered with this rod or that it was built cheap, I think you got two bad rods. I would return it and try one last time because it has been a great rod for me and everyone that I know that has used it.
I would check the serial numbers on the rod you got, and try to get a new rod far from your number, or even from a different store location, in order to avoid some of the bad batch of rods you seem to have run into. Just my two cents.
jyu87 reply :
On 1/3/2015 at 9:58 AM, flyfisher said:Premiers are still made in the US FYI....
I have owned Rage rods for 2 or maybe even three seasons now and nary a complaint. Does the rod creak with no reel mounted?
It does. 
especially when I have it in hand and wiggle the rod up and down. Creak sounds like its coming right where the reel is about to be mounted.
OntarioFishingGuy reply :
On 1/3/2015 at 10:16 AM, ChrisWi said:I stopped buying st croixs. They're heavy rods and for the money there are better rods. That being said I still do fish with my st Croix rods, just won't be buying more.
Which rods do you think are better than St. Croix for the money. I don't think you can make a generalized statement that about one brand. They have rods that are an excellent value, and some very light sticks as well. However, each is entitled to their own opinion.
jyu87 reply :
On 1/3/2015 at 11:22 AM, mjseverson24 said:how do you break a rod while pitching??? there should be little to no load on the rod, so how did it break???
Mitch
Literally had me baffled as well. Been pitching all my life. I was pitching about 10-15 ft ft in the living room and I'm holding the lure on my hand and starting my to put just a bit of load on the tip and then snap.
Angry John reply :
I enjoy my avids and legends alot. Otter rods one of the best builders IMO uses NFC or st croix blanks. He would not do that if they were junk. I like the power and tapers they have for just about everything. I also like there handles becasue i have large hands. I would advise the OP to contact st croix and let them know what is going on. They have a trade up program that i plan on using for the first time so i will let you know how it works out. They are always friendly and helpful every time i call. The only other company that i get this type of service from is dobyns. Gary answers the phone a lot and how often do you get to talk to the owner of any buisness.
ChrisWi reply :
I only own premiers and a Mojo so I can't speak for the high end sticks, however I was playing around with rods at cabelas and putting reels on some LTBs and was pretty disappointed with balance and overall weight. I've switched to Powell Rods and think for the money they're absolutely amazing.On 1/3/2015 at 10:32 AM, aavery2 said:So you have me curious about how you have come to this conclusion. Which St. Croix rods have you owned?
roadwarrior reply :
On 1/3/2015 at 1:42 PM, Angry John said:I enjoy my avids and legends alot. Otter rods one of the best builders IMO uses NFC or st croix blanks. He would not do that if they were junk. I like the power and tapers they have for just about everything. I also like there handles becasue i have large hands. I would advise the OP to contact st croix and let them know what is going on. They have a trade up program that i plan on using for the first time so i will let you know how it works out. They are always friendly and helpful every time i call. The only other company that i get this type of service from is dobyns. Gary answers the phone a lot and how often do you get to talk to the owner of any buisness.
Ask if they will exchange your rod direct. Sometimes floor models are abused.
BassinLou reply :
I have had St.Croix's rods for quite sometime now. Premiere's, Rage, Avid, and LTB's. From all 4 mentioned, the rods that I have had the worst luck with is the RAGE series. I have had to replace 2 of them. One, I will admit was my fault. Broke the rod tip. I replaced the rod right away because I really enjoyed it. This rod served as my main frogging rod for a while and it caught me loads of bass until the adhesive around the reel seat became undone. It rendered the rod unusable. The rod was less than 2 yrs old at the time and I was having reel seat issues already? So I decided to utilize St. Croix's upgrade program and I bought a LTB. Never looked back. Currently, out of my 5 baitcasting outfits. 3 are St. Croix's. 2 LTB's and an Avid. These great rods. Tough as nails, quality is great, and are very durable.
aavery2 reply :
On 1/3/2015 at 3:21 PM, ChrisWi said:I only own premiers and a Mojo so I can't speak for the high end sticks, however I was playing around with rods at cabelas and putting reels on some LTBs and was pretty disappointed with balance and overall weight. I've switched to Powell Rods and think for the money they're absolutely amazing.
When you fish a company's entry level equipment, it does not provide you the opportunity to understand how good some of their upper end offerings really are. Many company's entry level equipment is outsourced so they can keep cost down and compete in that market segment.
You may want to consider offering opinions based on the equipment that you have personally used, rather than making bold sweeping statements about an entire company. Once you have the opportunity to gain experience with some upper end equipment, I think you will be pleasantly surprised and just how well St. Croix competes in that area.
S Hovanec reply :
Amen to that.On 1/3/2015 at 11:04 PM, aavery2 said:You may want to consider offering opinions based on the equipment that you have personally used, rather than making bold sweeping statements about an entire company.
Of St Croix's lineup, the only ones that impress me are the US rolled SCIII and the SCV.
ChrisWi reply :
I didn't say they were bad rods, they're sensitive and have great action. Compared to other sticks however theyre pretty heavy. The new Avid X's look great, the regular avids were nice (got to use a relatives for a day) just not impressed by the way the LTB feels and that's considered a "high end" rod.On 1/3/2015 at 11:04 PM, aavery2 said:When you fish a company's entry level equipment, it does not provide you the opportunity to understand how good some of their upper end offerings really are. Many company's entry level equipment is outsourced so they can keep cost down and compete in that market segment.
You may want to consider offering opinions based on the equipment that you have personally used, rather than making bold sweeping statements about an entire company. Once you have the opportunity to gain experience with some upper end equipment, I think you will be pleasantly surprised and just how well St. Croix competes in that area.
jyu87 reply :
Ended up returning the Rage and getting a Legend Tournament 7'1 Medium. Took it out for a spin earlier today. Very light rod. No sounds or imperfections that I can really notice. Hopefully this is the one!
adam32 reply :
I love my avids! They are light, sensitive, built well with good guides, and the look good(no crazy colors or silly graphics). I have new doubles of every one I own just incase they change them. I actually have three 7'6" medium light avid spinning rods, two still new in plastic. My absolute favorite spinning rod!
I've also owned mojos and premiers. Wasn't impressed by any of them, and definitely wouldn't recommend them.
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
On 1/3/2015 at 10:16 AM, ChrisWi said:I stopped buying st croixs. They're heavy rods and for the money there are better rods. That being said I still do fish with my st Croix rods, just won't be buying more.
On 1/3/2015 at 3:21 PM, ChrisWi said:I only own premiers and a Mojo so I can't speak for the high end sticks, however I was playing around with rods at cabelas and putting reels on some LTBs and was pretty disappointed with balance and overall weight. I've switched to Powell Rods and think for the money they're absolutely amazing.
I agree that there are better rods for less as well IMO. My LTB did not impress me either when compared to my other rods that cost less. In areas that matter to me weight balance my perceived sensitivity LTB falls short for a $240 stick and is surpassed by some $100- $150 rods I have. Premieres I have are outperformed by other rods Ive bought in the $60-$100 range. Ive felt for a while that Croix has been caught up to and bettered at times based on use of multiple brands and price points of rods. This doesnt mean their rods are bad I just dont hold them at the higher standard I once held them.
BassinLou reply :
On 1/4/2015 at 3:06 AM, jyu87 said:Ended up returning the Rage and getting a Legend Tournament 7'1 Medium. Took it out for a spin earlier today. Very light rod. No sounds or imperfections that I can really notice. Hopefully this is the one!
Good choice. Enjoy the new rod.
adam32 reply :
On 1/4/2015 at 4:06 AM, QUAKEnSHAKE said:I agree that there are better rods for less as well IMO. My LTB did not impress me either when compared to my other rods that cost less. In areas that matter to me weight balance my perceived sensitivity LTB falls short for a $240 stick and is surpassed by some $100- $150 rods I have. Premieres I have are outperformed by other rods Ive bought in the $60-$100 range. Ive felt for a while that Croix has been caught up to and bettered at times based on use of multiple brands and price points of rods. This doesnt mean their rods are bad I just dont hold them at the higher standard I once held them.
What rod in the 100-150 dollar price range is better than a legend tournament bass????
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
My Quantum Smoke rods and *** rod I feel have better sensitivity and balance. Smoke rod smokes the LTB weight wise. Handle on the Smoke is more comfortable to me.
Im going out on a limb and will say my Helios will meet or exceed the LTB as well. It already does balance, weight, handle comfort wise. Sensitivity still needs to be tested more.
ChrisWi reply :
Exactly, not bad rods, they're built excellent and being from Wisconsin I love repping sticks made in my home state. Just not as impressed after I tried other brands!On 1/4/2015 at 4:06 AM, QUAKEnSHAKE said:I agree that there are better rods for less as well IMO. My LTB did not impress me either when compared to my other rods that cost less. In areas that matter to me weight balance my perceived sensitivity LTB falls short for a $240 stick and is surpassed by some $100- $150 rods I have. Premieres I have are outperformed by other rods Ive bought in the $60-$100 range. Ive felt for a while that Croix has been caught up to and bettered at times based on use of multiple brands and price points of rods. This doesnt mean their rods are bad I just dont hold them at the higher standard I once held them.
adam32 reply :
On 1/4/2015 at 4:35 AM, ChrisWi said:Exactly, not bad rods, they're built excellent and being from Wisconsin I love repping sticks made in my home state. Just not as impressed after I tried other brands!
You said you've only used the premier and mojo. Thats like only using a G loomis gl2 and saying G loomis rods aren't that impressive.
tomustang reply :
On 1/4/2015 at 1:47 AM, ChrisWi said:I didn't say they were bad rods, they're sensitive and have great action. Compared to other sticks however theyre pretty heavy.
Far as weight is concerned, it's the price you pay for more durability with flexcoat.
I personally don't care if a rod weighs .2oz more (conjecture) for more protection, especially since I'm very hard on my rods. Rather have a knick in some clear coat than on the blank.
tomustang reply :
On 1/3/2015 at 11:56 AM, jyu87 said:It does.
especially when I have it in hand and wiggle the rod up and down. Creak sounds like its coming right where the reel is about to be mounted.
Is the creaking sound without the reel on?
EvanT123 reply :
In my opinion at.croix offers some of the best bang for the buck value in fishing rods.
You just have to put them together yourself 
jyu87 reply :
On 1/4/2015 at 8:17 AM, tomustang said:Is the creaking sound without the reel on?
It was creaking with and without the reel.
ChrisWi reply :
I said I've only owned a premier and Mojo. I've fished multiple times with avids. Didnt know I couldnt have an opinion on here, thought that was kind of the purpose, instead I get attacked because I think there are better rods out there especially in the price range of a Rage or LTB.On 1/4/2015 at 8:05 AM, adam32 said:You said you've only used the premier and mojo. Thats like only using a G loomis gl2 and saying G loomis rods aren't that impressive.
ChrisWi reply :
I'm aware weight isn't everything, they aren't terribly heavy but after you fish with something much lighter you dont really want to go back.On 1/4/2015 at 8:15 AM, tomustang said:Far as weight is concerned, it's the price you pay for more durability with flexcoat.
I personally don't care if a rod weighs .2oz more (conjecture) for more protection, especially since I'm very hard on my rods. Rather have a knick in some clear coat than on the blank.
aavery2 reply :
On 1/4/2015 at 8:59 AM, ChrisWi said:I said I've only owned a premier and Mojo. I've fished multiple times with avids. Didnt know I couldnt have an opinion on here, thought that was kind of the purpose, instead I get attacked because I think there are better rods out there especially in the price range of a Rage or LTB.
You are correct, everyone is entitled to an opinion. But don't you find it hard to offer an opinion about a product that you have never used? Informed opinions are what help people, repeating what you have read and heard offer little in the way of value.
aavery2 reply :
On 1/4/2015 at 9:14 AM, ChrisWi said:I didn't say they weren't high quality rods, they are, I like mine, they're just kind of big and clunky. Youre correct, I haven't fished the Rage series. I have however fished a few other St Croix rods and all handle pretty similar. Rage rods are also made sub par (this I have witnessed first hand) being made in Mexico they seem to be made much sloppier, A lot have crooked guides and poor epoxy jobs.
You have a true gift.
adam32 reply :
On 1/4/2015 at 8:59 AM, ChrisWi said:I said I've only owned a premier and Mojo. I've fished multiple times with avids. Didnt know I couldnt have an opinion on here, thought that was kind of the purpose, instead I get attacked because I think there are better rods out there especially in the price range of a Rage or LTB.
Wasn't trying to attack you. I just want to point out that there is a HUGE difference between the mojo/premier and the avid on up.
ChrisWi reply :
I'm aware there is a huge difference. I didn't want to come off hard headed or "all knowing" I just PERSONALLY think there are some nicer rods. I guess it all comes down to what YOU like.On 1/4/2015 at 9:50 AM, adam32 said:Wasn't trying to attack you. I just want to point out that there is a HUGE difference between the mojo/premier and the avid on up.
SirSnookalot reply :
On BR saying St Croix is not a good rod is the same as saying Shimano is a poor reel, an argument that can't be won. When it comes to buying a rod certain criteria are important to me and some not. I don't fish techniques where I require sensitivity or super light weight, St Croix is pretty good in that area. I did buy 3 St Croix over the last couple of years, returned them all after 2-3 days, not because they were bad rods but they didn't meet my criteria any better than what I normally use. Couple of weeks ago I used a friend's Legend surf rod with a Van Staal for a few days, really a nice rod but very uncomfortable with that knarly butt and foregrip. My favorite brand casted every bit as well, handles the kind of fish I target and I'm not afraid to overload with a heavier lure.
Where I take exception is basing quality on the country of origin, my main brand is made in China, some of my rods are nearing 10 years in age. Not one has ever broke, the guides don't rust out even though they are mainly used in saltwater, 2 of them are freshwater only, never had guides not aligned properly, cork still looks like good. I don't find them to be 100% perfect, I'd like to see a wider lure parameter (on the lower end) and I'd like a longer butt on their 7' models.
mjseverson24 reply :
I don't own a st. croix above the rage line up, but i do own at least one of each of the other lines, and I love all of them. Are they the best rods I have ever used??? No, but If you can't catch fish with a St. Croix you cant catch with any brand...
Mitch
tomustang reply :
Regardless of the brand, its the assumption of others and not opinions that are expressed more.
Alonerankin2 reply :
When St. Croix had the triumph made in China, it was a well made rod, great cork, great build quaity, I grabbed a 7' ml spinning to back up my 7' avid ml it was very close to the avid and @ $69
A bargain, rods are now made in Mexico and the quality suffers, at least in build quality, prices are exaggerated as well.
FishTank reply :
On 1/5/2015 at 6:19 AM, Alonerankin2 said:When St. Croix had the triumph made in China, it was a well made rod, great cork, great build quaity, I grabbed a 7' ml spinning to back up my 7' avid ml it was very close to the avid and @ $69
A bargain, rods are now made in Mexico and the quality suffers, at least in build quality, prices are exaggerated as well.
I had two of the China made Triumph rods when they first came out and I had the same issue as the original poster. I had one break and the other made a creaking noise at the reel seat. I ended up returning both, later purchased two Avids and these rods far exceed the Triumph. The only comparison I can draw that felt close in the Triumph's price range was the BPS Bionic Blade or the newer version of the Ugly Stick with the Ugly Stick being slightly better. I also think the Berkley Lightning Rod also comes close. All Star also had a rod that was out around at the same time the Triumphs debuted, at this same price point, that I thought was a better offering.
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