Revo STX or Revo Premier. 2024

CWB reply :

Need some advice quick. I ordered 1 of each of the above reels but have not received them yet. I have a chance to buy 1 more of either one and need some advice. Regardless of price, which would be the better all around choice. Please no Shimano or Daiwa are better posts.

Those are the only 2 choices I have. Any help from anyone who has experience with both would be appreciated.

burleytog reply :

Lighter is better.

CWB reply :

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Lighter is better.

Don't you want to know how I got your picture for my Avatar? ;D

Uncle Leo reply :

Premier, the brake is much easier to set. At least that is what I found between my STX and Premier.

DINK WHISPERER reply :

I have owned both and hated the Premier! Lightness was all it had on its side! Whoever says they are almost the same has never used both. The drag on the Premier was weak and it was not nearly as smooth as the STX! When Tackle Warehouse put the STX on sale i ended up replacing all my SX and S Revos with them (10 total)! IMO, the STX is the best in the Revo line up(i have used almost every Revo they made)!

Koop reply :

Facts are:

Premier is lighter.

Both have carbon matrix drag systems

Both have Linear Mag Brake system

This being said, on paper they are pretty much the same reel, except the Premier is lighter and has added price, comes in only 6.4:1.

I have fished both and it just comes down to the reel being lighter, they are identical otherwise.

CWB reply :

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I have owned both and hated the Premier! Lightness was all it had on its side! Whoever says they are almost the same has never used both. The drag on the Premier was weak and it was not nearly as smooth as the STX! When Tackle Warehouse put the STX on sale i ended up replacing all my SX and S Revos with them (10 total)! IMO, the STX is the best in the Revo line up(i have used almost every Revo they made)!

I've read that about the drag also but up here, a 5 pounder is big.

Using 12 lb. line, drag doesn't factor in that much.

As far as casting performance and smoothness did you notice a big difference?

DINK WHISPERER reply :

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Facts are:
Premier is lighter.

Both have carbon matrix drag systems

Both have Linear Mag Brake system

This being said, on paper they are pretty much the same reel, except the Premier is lighter and has added price, comes in only 6.4:1.

I have fished both and it just comes down to the reel being lighter, they are identical otherwise.

The Premier is only rated at 12lbs of drag though and it will only push about 10!

CWB: The premier i noticed did not cast as far as the STX. I also got more back lashes with it! It just did not feel smooth or strong enough for my style of fishing!

infamous512 reply :

This is the same question I've been thinking in my head for a while now. lol They are both great reels but they have ups and downs. The premier is equipped with better bearings, slightly larger handle, much lighter, and claims to be smoother than stx. The downside to the premier is its graphite non cranking side cover, 12lb drag, and less bearings than stx. However, I had stx for couple of weeks and i loved it until Abu released redesigned revo lineups during ICAST '09 show, so i returned it.

Since you ordered 1 of each, why don't you wait until upgraded/redesigned 2010 revo stx & the premier? Should be coming out in a couple of weeks.

Uncle Leo reply :

I wonder, how many bearings truly come into play when casting? Just so many can be mounted on a spool. Also how much drag is truly needed to successfully land a fish. I wonder if the power and action of the rod and test of the line needs to be considered. Seems to me that there are many fine reels out there with 5 bearings and 11-12 lbs of drag that perform well, these included.

dmac14 reply :

I think it comes down to preference, I own two STX's and love them. I have heard mixed reviews about the premiers so I will stick with my STX's until I get to try out a Premier.

CWB reply :

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I wonder, how many bearings truly come into play when casting? Just so many can be mounted on a spool. Also how much drag is truly needed to successfully land a fish. I wonder if the power and action of the rod and test of the line needs to be considered. Seems to me that there are many fine reels out there with 5 bearings and 11-12 lbs of drag that perform well, these included.

Excellent point. Bearings in the handles are nice but I believe the Premier does not incorporate this due to added weight.

Drag for me usually comes into play if I happen to hook a large Musky.

I use 12lb Yo-Zuri Hybrid and 12-15 lb Big Game. Haven't hooked a bass that broke either of these but you do want it to slip a bit on a hard run, especially close to the boat. I'm still on the fence and need to decide today. Any more input?

bigtimfish reply :

STX

SPEEDBEAD. reply :

As far as the "I dont need that much drag" point, look at it this way:

When people discuss trolling motors, it is recommended that you get the biggest motor you can afford. Reasoning behind this is that you can adjust the power/speed down incrementaly to zero, but you can only go up to the maximum speed or power.

I like that same option with a reel's drag in certain situations. I would much rather have the ability to crank a reel's drag waaaaay down.

We're all guys here. I am sure you realize it's better to have too much and not need it, than not enough wishing you had more. ;D

21farms reply :

if you're going to have three reels, don't get three all-around reels...start to specialize. so, if the STX that you already have on the way is a 6.4:1, then i'd say get the STX-HS with the 7.1:1. otherwise, get the premier...at almost 1.5 ounces lighter than the STX, you'll enjoy fishing it longer and more often.

CWB reply :

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As far as the "I dont need that much drag" point, look at it this way:
When people discuss trolling motors, it is recommended that you get the biggest motor you can afford. Reasoning behind this is that you can adjust the power/speed down incrementaly to zero, but you can only go up to the maximum speed or power.

I like that same option with a reel's drag in certain situations. I would much rather have the ability to crank a reel's drag waaaaay down.

We're all guys here. I am sure you realize it's better to have too much and not need it, than not enough wishing you had more. ;D

Excellent point Speed, but I think drag smoothness to me would be more important than what poundage it is rated for. Not exactly sure how drag power is calculated but if I'm using 12 lb. line, do I need 23 lb. of drag pressure? Does 12 lb. drag pressure mean that's as tight as you can set it? It will then slip at 12 lb. no matter how tight it is set?

SPEEDBEAD. reply :

One of the STX's I ordered is going on a frog rod. Another is going on my flipping stick.

Both situations, I will be using at least 50lb braid and I will be "horsing" the fish to the boat. I like my thumb to be on the frame of the reel, not the spool.

The added drag pressure allows me to take my thumb off the spool and place it in a more natural position for me.

CWB reply :

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One of the STX's I ordered is going on a frog rod. Another is going on my flipping stick.
Both situations, I will be using at least 50lb braid and I will be "horsing" the fish to the boat. I like my thumb to be on the frame of the reel, not the spool.

The added drag pressure allows me to take my thumb off the spool and place it in a more natural position for me.

Makes sense.

Dan: reply :

Do you know what rod you want to put it on? If so, will that rod balance out with the lighter reel or will it be more balanced with the heavier STX?

ArcticCat500 reply :

I laid an order down on TW for an STX HS, I cant wait to get her mounted up. I've a feeling Im may like this better then my Curado with all the positive responses going on in here.

Uncle Leo reply :

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I laid an order down on TW for an STX HS, I cant wait to get her mounted up. I've a feeling Im may like this better then my Curado with all the positive responses going on in here.

CWB asked for Shimano not to be mentioned so thanks for the opening. Seriously no way if your talking about the Curado 200 that you have. Less drag of course versus the STX but that reel is sweet. Sorry Ken.

CWB reply :

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I laid an order down on TW for an STX HS, I cant wait to get her mounted up. I've a feeling Im may like this better then my Curado with all the positive responses going on in here.

CWB asked for Shimano not to be mentioned so thanks for the opening. Seriously no way if your talking about the Curado 200 that you have. Less drag of course versus the STX but that reel is sweet. Sorry Ken.

I knew you were laying in the weeds waiting for an opening to pounce.

No worries. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, however misguided.

ArcticCat500 reply :

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I laid an order down on TW for an STX HS, I cant wait to get her mounted up. I've a feeling Im may like this better then my Curado with all the positive responses going on in here.

CWB asked for Shimano not to be mentioned so thanks for the opening. Seriously no way if your talking about the Curado 200 that you have. Less drag of course versus the STX but that reel is sweet. Sorry Ken.

I knew you were laying in the weeds waiting for an opening to pounce.

No worries. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, however misguided.

;D

Sorry Uncle Leo & CWB, although theres never a mention of the curado being better, it clearly states "I may" sorry again guys.

Uncle Leo reply :

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I laid an order down on TW for an STX HS, I cant wait to get her mounted up. I've a feeling Im may like this better then my Curado with all the positive responses going on in here.

CWB asked for Shimano not to be mentioned so thanks for the opening. Seriously no way if your talking about the Curado 200 that you have. Less drag of course versus the STX but that reel is sweet. Sorry Ken.

I knew you were laying in the weeds waiting for an opening to pounce.

No worries. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, however misguided.

;D

Sorry Uncle Leo & CWB, although theres never a mention of the curado being better, it clearly states "I may" sorry again guys.

That's okay we all know the Curado is better.

Like Sox over the Cubs

I love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

J Francho reply :

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I wonder, how many bearings truly come into play when casting? Just so many can be mounted on a spool. Also how much drag is truly needed to successfully land a fish. I wonder if the power and action of the rod and test of the line needs to be considered. Seems to me that there are many fine reels out there with 5 bearings and 11-12 lbs of drag that perform well, these included.

On most baitcasters, just two or three. There is a shaft support bearing on the palm side, another shaft support close to the spool and before the pinion, and on some reels the bearing under the cast control knob comes into play.

As far as the second question goes, it depends on a lot of things like cover, substrate, length of cast, etc.

I will say this, the STX max drag rating is highly exaggerated. It may be there when new, but it isn't there after some use. The Revo carbon matrix washers are nothing like the aftermarket Carbontex sold by Smooth Drags.

Uncle Leo reply :

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I wonder, how many bearings truly come into play when casting? Just so many can be mounted on a spool. Also how much drag is truly needed to successfully land a fish. I wonder if the power and action of the rod and test of the line needs to be considered. Seems to me that there are many fine reels out there with 5 bearings and 11-12 lbs of drag that perform well, these included.
On most baitcasters, just two or three. There is a shaft support bearing on the palm side, another shaft support close to the spool and before the pinion, and on some reels the bearing under the cast control knob comes into play.

No need for 10 bearings to cast then.

J Francho reply :

The rest are either to tighten up poor tolerances in the frame or for a smooth retireve (or both). Look at the Shimano Stradic (yes, I realize its a spinning reel), it has 5 WELL PLACED bearings, and remains one of the smoothest reels out there. Many ten year old + Stradics come in for maintenance, and still run smooth. Fish one of those 14 bearing $49.99 reels you see on the end cap sale display at Dick's for ten years, and tell me how it feels.

Uncle Leo reply :

Your not suppose to mention Shimano but yes I agree.

DINK WHISPERER reply :

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That's okay we all know the Curado is better.

Like Sox over the Cubs

I love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NOW THAT IS TRULY FUNNY!!!!!! Better..................LOL.....................

Koop reply :

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I laid an order down on TW for an STX HS, I cant wait to get her mounted up. I've a feeling Im may like this better then my Curado with all the positive responses going on in here.

CWB asked for Shimano not to be mentioned so thanks for the opening. Seriously no way if your talking about the Curado 200 that you have. Less drag of course versus the STX but that reel is sweet. Sorry Ken.

I knew you were laying in the weeds waiting for an opening to pounce.

No worries. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, however misguided.

;D

Sorry Uncle Leo & CWB, although theres never a mention of the curado being better, it clearly states "I may" sorry again guys.

That's okay we all know the Curado is better.

Like Sox over the Cubs

I love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wait wait let me get this straight... so:

Cubs are a Revo S...

Sox are a Curado 200...

and the Brewers are the STX that trumps them all?

ZZ reply :

I have the SX, STX, abd the Winch instead of the Premier.

I love all 3 of these reels and can't wait till October when the New STX SX and Premier comes out.

Only thing I did like about my Daiws I phased out was the swept handles.

The_Natural reply :

Premier hands down; you can buy last years model for $170 at Tackle Warehouse, and cheaper on Ebay.

ArcticCat500 reply :

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I have owned both and hated the Premier! Lightness was all it had on its side! Whoever says they are almost the same has never used both. The drag on the Premier was weak and it was not nearly as smooth as the STX! When Tackle Warehouse put the STX on sale i ended up replacing all my SX and S Revos with them (10 total)! IMO, the STX is the best in the Revo line up(i have used almost every Revo they made)!

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Re: I need help picking out a Revo
Reply #3 - Apr 19th, 2009, 11:03pm The STX is not worth the extra cost man! I have two SX and only one STX. The STX has the Infi II spool but it doesn't cast any further than the SX! I actually like my SX better. The brakes are fine on the reels as well. I hated my S model because no matter what setting i put the brakes on it was still the same! Trust me, get a SX model and you will not regret it!!!!

Hey Dink, Im not trying to start any crap dude. I used the search engine like we're supposed to and came across this post you made 4 months ago. Can you please elaborate as to why you chose the STX over the other Revos. I'm definitely going Revo but not sure which just yet. Thanks.

Peace

Koop reply :

That post was from April, that's a whole fishing season to get a different opinion ;D . He probably fell in love with the drag settings on the STX

CWB reply :

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I have owned both and hated the Premier! Lightness was all it had on its side! Whoever says they are almost the same has never used both. The drag on the Premier was weak and it was not nearly as smooth as the STX! When Tackle Warehouse put the STX on sale i ended up replacing all my SX and S Revos with them (10 total)! IMO, the STX is the best in the Revo line up(i have used almost every Revo they made)!

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Re: I need help picking out a Revo
Reply #3 - Apr 19th, 2009, 11:03pm The STX is not worth the extra cost man! I have two SX and only one STX. The STX has the Infi II spool but it doesn't cast any further than the SX! I actually like my SX better. The brakes are fine on the reels as well. I hated my S model because no matter what setting i put the brakes on it was still the same! Trust me, get a SX model and you will not regret it!!!!

Hey Dink, Im not trying to start any crap dude. I used the search engine like we're supposed to and came across this post you made 4 months ago. Can you please elaborate as to why you chose the STX over the other Revos. I'm definitely going Revo but not sure which just yet. Thanks.

Peace

In Dinks defense, the question was about the Premier and the STX only and he chose according to the question. I think what was quoted bears that out. No mention of the Premier was made. Anyway, I received my order Thursday and can't believe how light the Premier is. I spooled both up with 12 lb. Yo-Zuri Hybrid and made a few casts with each using the same bait. To me, no noticeable difference. Didn't catch anything on either so can't make drag comparison. Did get some nice ones on other set-ups though. Will post pics when I get home. I ended up buying both my buddy was selling and will make decision after more use tonight and tomorrow A.M. I will see which one handles lighter baits better. One or the other will end up on ebay or flea market here. Couldn't pass up price. Any thoughts on which one would be the better choice for casting lighter baits, 1/8 - 1/4 oz?Time for a swim and breakfast.

ArcticCat500 reply :

I'm not flamming Dink at all, Im couriuos as to why, sorry CWB didnt mean to mud up your thread

CWB reply :

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I'm not flamming Dink at all, Im couriuos as to why, sorry CWB didnt mean to mud up your thread

Don't sweat it. I'm curious myself.

Now that I have tried both, I'm having a harder time deciding. The weight is not a huge issue with me, it's more the casting distance, and non-backlashing along with longevity.

infamous512 reply :

Isn't weight of the spool can affect casting distance? I read it from somewhere that lighter spool will help cast both heavy & light bait/tackle easier. If this is true then aluminum aircraft spool in the premier should be one of the advantage over stx b/c the spool is lighter... Just my thoughts!

DINK WHISPERER reply :

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I have owned both and hated the Premier! Lightness was all it had on its side! Whoever says they are almost the same has never used both. The drag on the Premier was weak and it was not nearly as smooth as the STX! When Tackle Warehouse put the STX on sale i ended up replacing all my SX and S Revos with them (10 total)! IMO, the STX is the best in the Revo line up(i have used almost every Revo they made)!

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Re: I need help picking out a Revo
Reply #3 - Apr 19th, 2009, 11:03pm The STX is not worth the extra cost man! I have two SX and only one STX. The STX has the Infi II spool but it doesn't cast any further than the SX! I actually like my SX better. The brakes are fine on the reels as well. I hated my S model because no matter what setting i put the brakes on it was still the same! Trust me, get a SX model and you will not regret it!!!!

Hey Dink, Im not trying to start any crap dude. I used the search engine like we're supposed to and came across this post you made 4 months ago. Can you please elaborate as to why you chose the STX over the other Revos. I'm definitely going Revo but not sure which just yet. Thanks.

Peace

In another thread you said you used the SX and did not like it! You stated the Curado E was WAY better! Why look for a Revo now(just curious)? If this is true than the STX may not be to your liking either! They are indeed very similar. I chose the STX now mainly because i had not given it the deserved time on the water back then! It is almost even between the SX and STX for me but after using the STX exclusively for a couple months i liked it better! Also, i got the STXs at the discounted TW price so that came into play. Another big factor was that i had two SX break on me in a week on hook sets, lOL! If the prices were all MSRP with no discounts i would pick the SX over the STX and both over the Premier!

Laterz,

Luis

ArcticCat500 reply :

Hey Dink, thanks for the reply, you'll have to dig up that thread of me stating I ever used a Revo, never owned one....and as far as a Curado E, never even had the pleasure to handle one of those either.

I do own a Curado, but not the E, its the 200 series from last year, actually had 3 but sold them off....

Just looking to try something different, and found the STX at a great price.

http://www.simmonssportinggoods.net/servlet/the-9551/ABU-GARCIA-AMBASSADEUR-STX-dsh-HS/Detail

DINK WHISPERER reply :

I apologize Mr. ArcticCat500! It was someone else i was thinking of, LOL! For the price of the STX right now it should not even be an issue really!!!

ArcticCat500 reply :

looking forward to sitting the STX on the reel seat and getting busy with it.

Thanks Dink...Peace.

Dan: reply :

fwiw, Simmons is a fantastic place to do business.

JohnMac reply :

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fwiw, Simmons is a fantastic place to do business.

just bought a 51mg there for 175

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