Revo Stx 2024
SoCalFisher reply :
I have a Abu Garcia Revo STX and when I go to cast heavier lures such as 1/2 ounce and up I almost always get backlash. I don't think the problem is me because this doesn't happen with my Curados. One thing I have noticed is that when the spool tension knob is tightened all the way the spool still turns really fast. Where as on my Curados if I tighten the spool tension all the way the lure will not move at all and will take a very hard shake to get it to move. So is there something wrong with the spool tension knob of my Revo STX?
POPRG reply :
i have 2 stx's right here on my desk,a 6.4:1 and a 7.1:1 and at 3/4 spool tension,it will barely go one full spool revolution.
take off the tension cap and make sure the black washer is in there first..
SoCalFisher reply :
I have never taken this reel apart and I bought it brand new so it should be put together correctly but I did check and it is right.
jeb2 reply :
What do you have BOTH of your brakes set at when throwing those lures?
Kabar reply :
got stx a week ago.......didn't cast anything heavier then 1/2 oz....but did cast 1/2 oz spinnerbait.....as far as I could (40 m) for like 8 hrs ....no bird nests....and I'm new to baitcsters ....my brakes settings were : 2 on 4 off on b.c and b.m. on min.
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
Check the schemaitc and make sure all the shims are in place in the cap. From the sounds of it, it's definetely not right.
SoCalFisher reply :
On 4/23/2012 at 8:23 AM, Kabar said:got stx a week ago.......didn't cast anything heavier then 1/2 oz....but did cast 1/2 oz spinnerbait.....as far as I could (40 m) for like 8 hrs ....no bird nests....and I'm new to baitcsters ....my brakes settings were : 2 on 4 off on b.c and b.m. on min.
well I'm not going off anything you said because I don't believe it.
POPRG reply :
well if you don't believe him,don't listen to me either!!! i can cast UNDER 1/4 ounce-1 ounce+ jigs,spinner/buzzbaits,poppers,t-rigs,etc with NO problem at all!
So..whats your question? you obviously have something wrong with your reel,but if you don't want to believe it,what can we say??
Kabar reply :
On 4/23/2012 at 9:55 AM, SoCalFisher said:well I'm not going off anything you said because I don't believe it.
Why?
Bought recently my 1st baitcasters....chronarch, curado , and revo stx....before I got STX I had a few hrs practice ......then went for fishing....all day.....with chronarch/15lb mono...a few backlashes , but nothing huge......then bought stx.....went for fishing...a first 30 min...couldnt cast too far....so I set the brakes as I said before...now is perfect I used power pro 50lb braid. I have 1 st tape after 45 m on my spool...and was almost there after a cast.
Got 1 bad bird nest (hook caught the wooden deck)....but thumb trick helped....with stx is really hard to take a bird nest at least for me.....maybe is something wrong with your reel?
Kabar reply :
On 4/23/2012 at 11:34 AM, POPRG said:well if you don't believe him,don't listen to me either!!! i can cast UNDER 1/4 ounce-1 ounce+ jigs,spinner/buzzbaits,poppers,t-rigs,etc with NO problem at all!
So..whats your question? you obviously have something wrong with your reel,but if you don't want to believe it,what can we say??
me too I could cast senko ( I think it's 7g) weightless , wacky worm....pretty far without problem. Great reel. I was thinking a little about STX...or 2nd Chronarch but wanted to try other brand, I'm glad I did, But is too early to say which I prefer.Didn't try anything light with my Chronarch 200 series yet (like under 3/8oz).
SoCalFisher reply :
On 4/23/2012 at 11:34 AM, POPRG said:well if you don't believe him,don't listen to me either!!! i can cast UNDER 1/4 ounce-1 ounce+ jigs,spinner/buzzbaits,poppers,t-rigs,etc with NO problem at all!
So..whats your question? you obviously have something wrong with your reel,but if you don't want to believe it,what can we say??
Well he said he is new to baitcasters and claims he was basically a master and didn't get backlash on his first day using a baitcaster. I'm sorry but I don't think that is possible. Well I will probably just end up getting rid of the Stx I greatly dislike the reel and would much rather have an actual good reel like a Chronarch. With both my Curado 200e7 and my Curado 50e I have never had problems like with the Stx.
BrianinMD reply :
if you don't like it send it to me, I will gladly take it off your hands. Never had an issue with mine.
Kabar reply :
On 4/23/2012 at 12:15 PM, SoCalFisher said:Well he said he is new to baitcasters and claims he was basically a master and didn't get backlash on his first day using a baitcaster. I'm sorry but I don't think that is possible. Well I will probably just end up getting rid of the Stx I greatly dislike the reel and would much rather have an actual good reel like a Chronarch. With both my Curado 200e7 and my Curado 50e I have never had problems like with the Stx.
1. read one more time maybe more what I wrote . for more understanding
2. never said that I'm master. ROTFL
3.Now I started to think that your stx is pretty ok, just you ......maybe you have problem with learning process...motor coordination.return stx to the store it's not for you-probably.
SoCalFisher reply :
1.You're an idiot
2.What is "ROTFL"
3.Never had any problems with my Curados. Abu sucks thus I will never be buying one again.
*Hootie reply :
On 4/23/2012 at 9:50 PM, SoCalFisher said:1.Your an idiot
2.What is "ROTFL"
3.Never had any problems with my Curados. Abu sucks thus I will never be buying one again.
That is, you are, not your.
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
The brake design on the Curado is very user friendly verging on "set it and forget it". The STX dual braking requires a little more adjustment when changing baits but once that's done they're a smooth and reliable reel. The cast control issue is worth looking into before writing off the reel but if the Revo just isn't for you, you'll have no problem moving it.
craww reply :
Its likely your wrist. The revo I own casts great, but you have to be very smooth. You can't snap or flick it like with other, more forgiving reels.
MrSwimJig reply :
It sounds like the spool tensioner is not working correctly. I had a STX that did the same thing you are describing, no matter how tight you set the spool tensioner it still falls very quickly. My issue turned out to be the clicker inside the spool tensioner. The part of the clicker that holds the spacer had cracked and the spacer was not able to apply the proper amount of pressure.
jeb2 reply :
On 4/23/2012 at 10:49 PM, craww said:Its likely your wrist. The revo I own casts great, but you have to be very smooth. You can't snap or flick it like with other, more forgiving reels.
What Revo is that exactly? My Premier's can be cast smooth or with considerable force with no issues. Same braking system as the STX. My SX is much pickier, but that's not the subject here.
jeb2 reply :
On 4/23/2012 at 10:54 PM, kckid3 said:It sounds like the spool tensioner is not working correctly. I had a STX that did the same thing you are describing, no matter how tight you set the spool tensioner it still falls very quickly. My issue turned out to be the clicker inside the spool tensioner. The part of the clicker that holds the spacer had cracked and the spacer was not able to apply the proper amount of pressure.
Agreed. Bummer, but it sounds like you got a bad reel. Pure Fishing is really good about taking care of stuff like this. Might want to give them a call before abandoning it. I have lots of Shimano's and Abu's. Both are great, but both have the occasional bad reel make it out the door.
LgMouthGambler reply :
I personally dont like the STX, I went with the SX. Dual brakes is just too much, for me its one or the other, not both. I have a BPS Pro Qualifier, and I like it, but I dont like the braking system. There is nothing like the Shimano products (Curado, Chronarch), so I understand why you would rather have one of those.
j.bruno reply :
I used to think my Revo SX sucked also. Til i sent it in to DVT. Now it functions better than anything i own, thing is a beast.
SoCalFisher reply :
On 4/23/2012 at 10:54 PM, kckid3 said:It sounds like the spool tensioner is not working correctly. I had a STX that did the same thing you are describing, no matter how tight you set the spool tensioner it still falls very quickly. My issue turned out to be the clicker inside the spool tensioner. The part of the clicker that holds the spacer had cracked and the spacer was not able to apply the proper amount of pressure.
Ok thanks for the help, now I am reassured it isn't my fault. How did you get it fixed? Did you return it or fix it yourself or get it fixed by a tackle shop?
On 4/24/2012 at 5:36 AM, LgMouthGambler said:I personally dont like the STX, I went with the SX. Dual brakes is just too much, for me its one or the other, not both. I have a BPS Pro Qualifier, and I like it, but I dont like the braking system. There is nothing like the Shimano products (Curado, Chronarch), so I understand why you would rather have one of those.
I think I really do like my Shimano reels better but I'm going to try and get the Stx fixed and give it another try.
On 4/24/2012 at 6:06 AM, j.bruno said:I used to think my Revo SX sucked also. Til i sent it in to DVT. Now it functions better than anything i own, thing is a beast.
I will consider sending it to them.
SoCalFisher reply :
On 4/23/2012 at 10:08 PM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:The brake design on the Curado is very user friendly verging on "set it and forget it". The STX dual braking requires a little more adjustment when changing baits but once that's done they're a smooth and reliable reel. The cast control issue is worth looking into before writing off the reel but if the Revo just isn't for you, you'll have no problem moving it.
Ok, I do think it just isn't the reel for me but I think I will get it fixed and try it again. If it is the problem the poster after you described how much would you charge to fix it?
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
I'll go through the whole reel, clean/lube/repair for $16.20 ($18-10%) plus parts and shipping. PM, email or call if you have any questions.
Mike
MrSwimJig reply :
On 4/24/2012 at 7:24 AM, SoCalFisher said:Ok thanks for the help, now I am reassured it isn't my fault. How did you get it fixed? Did you return it or fix it yourself or get it fixed by a tackle shop?
I just called Pure Fishing and they sent me a new one and I replaced it myself in about 5 minutes.
ClackerBuzz reply :
is the STX the only one that comes with dual braking? it isn't listed as being on the S or SX. i love it on my BPT PQ and want to make sure my revo has it. they just went on sale at TW
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
S= Centrifugal
SX=Mag Brake
STX/Premier = Dual Brakes
MGX = externally adjustable Cent brake
Bass Junkie reply :
If you haven't oiled the reel in a while, do so. The reel comes with oil, and applying it to the appropriate places, as specified in the manual, will do a great deal for you. It has the effect of relieving friction on the key areas of the spool during the cast, and will cause less backlashes due to the lower force required to start up the spool. It will also eliminate any "sticky" spool spin by alleviating the heat and friction on the spool shaft. But a word of caution; go easy on the oil. A drop or two will do fine. and the oil is not intended for the main gear. You need to use a quality grease on that. Hope this helps- BJ
clayton86 reply :
Listen if you still don't want it pm me i'll send you my address i'll buy it off you
barroncooper reply :
bro, the revo's can be a little finickey on casting, I think we can all agree on that. especially the sx. but to be honest, I don't think its a problem with the reel. I'm not saying that you're a novice or anything, its just that there is a small learning curve with the revo series. I've had to be patient with every revo I've ever owned except for the winch. It's most like a curado to me on the set up. revo's typically have a heavier spool and thus more rotational mass. the more rotational mass the more breaking effort required. The STX is a great reel and I'm a shimano fan boy. my suggestion is to get out and cast the reel til you get to know it. and on the topic of the guy not backlashing, I don't find that impossible. I can give my 3 year old my curado 50 and tighten the cast control a bit and he can cast it incredibly for a 3 year old.
clayton86 reply :
hell on the no back lashes my SX isn't finicky a bit I went from cheapo dicks and Walmart combos to my sx I tie a duo lock on it and change type/size/weight lures constantly and almost never back lash if I do make an adjustment its very minimal and usually to loosen it so I can flip/pitch a bait but iv been know to have it all the way loose flip a jig to cover bring it out and then bomb the same jig way out parallel to the bank never making a single adjustment just learning to feel and "hear" the reel iv kinda trained my self to listen for that sound of it over running and my thumbs right there feathering it down. I don't have a STX not yet anyways but I do have SX's and there supposedly the worst to cast. Im not saying its you or the reel but somethings off maybe it could be the reel maybe its just you already have your mind set you wont like it so no mater what ur subliminally using bad form or something to make the reel act up or just not putting effort into adjusting it correctly. I know im guilty of it if im forced to go back to a crappy reel i started with I don't take the time to adjust it or make sure its still adjusted and i get sloppy or angry with my casts and just compounds the problem cuz my minds already set that the reel is a POS. But if you really don't like it and want to get rid of it i'll take it off your hands.
Hooligan reply :
Just a heads up, AG has acknowledged that there is an issue with the Revos, and spool tension. They haven't said exactly what it is related to at this point. There should also be a very large markdown coming, landing the STX at $159 and the Premier at $199. From the measurements I've taken, the issue is more about spool shaft length and a single shim placement. The spool shafts are of variable length on the STX alone, I've measured 12 that were greatly different.
What it boils down to, is that it isn't user error or brakes. There's a definite problem.
jeb2 reply :
But there is nothing to indicate the current discounts on the Revo's has ANYTHING to do with any spool tension issues. The only reel I believe they acknowledged that issue on was some of the 09 SX line. And they gave me a free 10 model SX in exchange for my 09 SX that had that issue.
Rumor has it the current discounts are more about some possible new models coming out at iCast this year, and PF/AG just flushing out the supplies of older stuff before that happens.
SoCalFisher reply :
I have actually been fishing with the reel and I got it set up correctly but my curados are still much better. They cast so much smoother . I just know now to stick to shimano reels.
Hooligan reply :
On 5/3/2012 at 7:36 AM, jeb2 said:But there is nothing to indicate the current discounts on the Revo's has ANYTHING to do with any spool tension issues. The only reel I believe they acknowledged that issue on was some of the 09 SX line. And they gave me a free 10 model SX in exchange for my 09 SX that had that issue.
Rumor has it the current discounts are more about some possible new models coming out at iCast this year, and PF/AG just flushing out the supplies of older stuff before that happens.
The information that we've been given has a little of both, actually. They don't want to correct the issue because of the cost in design and tooling; better to just flush the problem reels out of the system and revamp the line. Also, they've acknowledged the issue in current production, not just in the old series.
jeb2 reply :
On 5/3/2012 at 10:14 AM, SoCalFisher said:I have actually been fishing with the reel and I got it set up correctly but my curados are still much better. They cast so much smoother . I just know now to stick to shimano reels.
I understand. But I still think something is wrong with your reel. I have Curados, Cores, Calais DC and higher end Calcutta reels. The only ones that approach my Premier's for smoothness are the Calcutta's. Casting is won by my 2 DC reels, but the Premier's are right with or better than the rest of them. And since the STX is just a little heavier version of the Premier, I'd think they should be about the same in those regards.
But it sounds like you got a bad reel. That's unfortunate, especially since it's your first experience with the brand, it seems.
jeb2 reply :
On 5/3/2012 at 1:00 PM, Hooligan said:The information that we've been given has a little of both, actually. They don't want to correct the issue because of the cost in design and tooling; better to just flush the problem reels out of the system and revamp the line. Also, they've acknowledged the issue in current production, not just in the old series.
Interesting. I've heard of none of those issue on the forums. Where is this information available?
SoCalFisher reply :
On 5/3/2012 at 6:26 PM, jeb2 said:I understand. But I still think something is wrong with your reel. I have Curados, Cores, Calais DC and higher end Calcutta reels. The only ones that approach my Premier's for smoothness are the Calcutta's. Casting is won by my 2 DC reels, but the Premier's are right with or better than the rest of them. And since the STX is just a little heavier version of the Premier, I'd think they should be about the same in those regards.
But it sounds like you got a bad reel. That's unfortunate, especially since it's your first experience with the brand, it seems.
Yea its my first Abu Garcia except for a cheap spinning reel I have that is actually quite good.
POPRG reply :
i'd like to see this info too??On 5/3/2012 at 6:29 PM, jeb2 said:Interesting. I've heard of none of those issue on the forums. Where is this information available?
bigbasshunter reply :
What size line are you using? I have four revo stx and two curados. Curados seem to handle lighter line better. I keep 10# on curados and 12# on stx.
Which brand is better?? Hook them up to each other and start a tug of war. My stx will pull a curado off its reel seat
Quillback reply :
Premiers selling for $199 is a sweet deal. I'm going to watch the auction sites also, might find some even better deals.
aavery2 reply :
On 5/3/2012 at 3:16 AM, Hooligan said:Just a heads up, AG has acknowledged that there is an issue with the Revos, and spool tension. They haven't said exactly what it is related to at this point. There should also be a very large markdown coming, landing the STX at $159 and the Premier at $199. From the measurements I've taken, the issue is more about spool shaft length and a single shim placement. The spool shafts are of variable length on the STX alone, I've measured 12 that were greatly different.
What it boils down to, is that it isn't user error or brakes. There's a definite problem.
Hooligan, which shaft is it that you are finding your variance on? With Abu using a split spool shaft on most everything above the S model, it seems like it would be an easy fix unless the variance is on the spool itself.
DAL reply :
Sonds like a bad reel for sure...
Funny thing, I just had a bad Chronarch 200E...the retrieve had a stragne vibration (not smooth at all). I traded it in for another Revo STX...which is much smoother and more sold than the chronarch.
The Revo requires a little more experienced thumb than shimanos (which i have used many of over the years), but if you have that experienced thumb the Revo will out cast the chronarch.
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