SX or STX? 2024
jack1 reply :
I need another caster, so I'm looking into purchasing an Abu Garcia SX from BPS, simply because of the free $129 Wiley X sunglasses. I know I can pick a SX off of ebay for $135 free shipping, but I'm in need of a high quality sunglasses as welljust too good to pass up on.
Anyways, what's the big difference between the SX and STX? I know they're very similar, but why spend the extra $ on the STX? I'm thinking about going with the SX to save $, because they're both very close in specs. What's your take on the SX?
Infidel. reply :
I have two SX and one STX. If I were to buy another, I would get the SX again. They are both great performers but I haven't noticed the STX being any better. It's funny though because the SX has gone up in price by $20 since they first came out and the STX is still the same price.
firefightn15 reply :
QuoteI have two SX and one STX. If I were to buy another, I would get the SX again. They are both great performers but I haven't noticed the STX being any better. It's funny though because the SX has gone up in price by $20 since they first came out and the STX is still the same price.
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ww2farmer reply :
I have the S, the SX and the STX.......I only plan on buying the S's from now on. The other 2 are great reels, but the S is no slouch, and I like the lower price, and the centrifical brakes better. New S's can be had on e-bay for $90 w/free shipping, then you'll still have $$ left over towards a pair of good glasses. The only thing the other's have on the S is that they come in 6:1 and 7:1 ratio's the S only comes in 6:1. I can not tell the difference between the 3 in casting distance, smoothness, etc..
mattm reply :
Imo, the only difference is about 50 bucks. Seriously, as you said there are some small differences in the specs, but the 50 bones is the biggest one.
I have a friend that has at least 20 SX's and STX's and fishes almost everyday. He says that the STX's seem to be a little less tempremental, but most experienced BC anglers can handle the SX with no problem. He's more saying that sometimes the STX's can be a little easier on the beginners. Other than that and 50 dollars he doesn't think there is much difference.
vicdotcom reply :
The STX also as a micro click cast control knob system! I know that because I just replaced it lol. Makes it "clickier" 
The spools and the spool release system is different on the two models also I believe.
Micro reply :
The SX and the STX both have clicking cast-control knobs.
The STX has a spool that does not have a fixed shaft that goes all the way through the crankside of the reel. When in free-spool, the pinion on the STX pulls away and the spool spins solely on the bearing on the spool and the bearing in the brakeside sideplate.
The SX's spool does have the long fixed shaft.
It doesn't make a lick of difference to me. The STX and the SX perform virtually equally.
Other than this, and obviously the color and other bling, the STX has a TiN coated wormshaft that might give it a bit more durability.
Pantera61 reply :
If you are going to be consistently throwing baits 3/8 oz or less, the STX is the way to go exactly because of the different spool attachment. If you are flippin', pitchin' or other heavier bait application, the SX is fine.
David P reply :
Considering you can get an STX on Ebay for $170 shipped to your door, I think that alone is a good reason to just spend the few extra dollars.
cart7t reply :
Between the SX and the STX, the STX was a little easier to cast but that's not saying much.
OIFBasser reply :
I own 1 S, 3 Sx, and 1 Stx. For the money u can't go wrong w the SX. Personally, I think the drag is better on the STX. I've caught a couple of pike on the STX and the drag seemed to perform great. Though when it came to buying a new reel I chose another SX 2x after that.
The_Natural reply :
QuoteIf you are going to be consistently throwing baits 3/8 oz or less, the STX is the way to go exactly because of the different spool attachment. If you are flippin', pitchin' or other heavier bait application, the SX is fine.
This is my beef. The SX would get significan 'professional overruns' when trying to throw anything under 3/8oz.
Bassaholic84 reply :
I agree that if you want to throw lighter baits pay the extra money and get the STX. It does cast lighter baits much better. My STX can launch a weightless senko with no problem.
Pantera61 reply :
QuoteQuoteIf you are going to be consistently throwing baits 3/8 oz or less, the STX is the way to go exactly because of the different spool attachment. If you are flippin', pitchin' or other heavier bait application, the SX is fine.This is my beef. The SX would get significan 'professional overruns' when trying to throw anything under 3/8oz.
It's the spool design. I don't know if it's exactly a disengaging spool but it's d**n close. It's Daiwa-esque, sort of. The EG rod crowd in Japan is very pro-REVO and it's almost without fail that STX is used for the light stuff and SX is used for the heavy stuff.
There are two exceptions for that. The REVO Elite which would be the Japanese version of the Premier and the Skeet Reese. One model is mag brake, the other centrifugal.
Micro reply :
I throw weightless senkos (4") on my SX with no issues at all. The difference in casting light baits between the STX and the SX are so negligible that in practical situations no one would probably know the difference.
Pantera61 reply :
QuoteI throw weightless senkos (4") on my SX with no issues at all. The difference in casting light baits between the STX and the SX are so negligible that in practical situations no one would probably know the difference.
Yet some people do, which is why they would point it out. But it's not the Senko test which defines the difference, it's something like the OSP HPF Spec 2 or Megabass Griffon or similarly light bait.
Micro reply :
I've cast Jackall Cherry Zero Footers with both and the difference is, again, negligible. Perhaps people are maintaining them differently.
Pantera61 reply :
QuoteI've cast Jackall Cherry Zero Footers with both and the difference is, again, negligible. Perhaps people are maintaining them differently.
I find it highly unlikely an individual would maintain one reel in his/her arsenal 1 way and another reel another way. I would find touch deafness to be a more likely scenario. Some people are just more naturally attuned to certain things. It wouldn't be someone's fault if they were less gifted.
Micro reply :
Now that you've mentioned it, an exceptionally keen sensitivity and high-powered perception, not to mention an obviously high regard for one's self, must be the difference. Experience must just have numbed me to subtle nuances.
mattm reply :
QuotePosted by: Bassaholic84 Posted on: Today at 8:14pmI agree that if you want to throw lighter baits pay the extra money and get the STX. It does cast lighter baits much better. My STX can launch a weightless senko with no problem.
I hear this over and over. A weightless senko is not a light bait. Plus you would be hard pressed to find anything more aerodynamic and still catch fish. Any t-rig combo should be able to cast a senko great.
Pantera61 reply :
QuoteNow that you've mentioned it, an exceptionally keen sensitivity and high-powered perception, not to mention an obviously high regard for one's self, must be the difference. Experience must just have numbed me to subtle nuances.
That is the Achille's heel of your thesis. You don't mention how one's failure to accept his/her own inadequacies and shortcomings lead to ***, nay, jealousy of those with superior natural talent, obvious skill and I'm quite positive now, experience. You may well learn in time though, only then will you be able to join the big dogs on the porch rather than play with the pups in the yard.
roadwarrior reply :
You guys are cracking me up!
Two alphas "discussing" how many angles are dancing on the head of a pin. Very entertaining.
8-)
Micro reply :
QuoteThat is the Achille's heel of your thesis. You don't mention how one's failure to accept his/her own inadequacies and shortcomings lead to ***, nay, jealousy of those with superior natural talent, obvious skill and I'm quite positive now, experience. You may well learn in time though, only then will you be able to join the big dogs on the porch rather than play with the pups in the yard.
Isn't it obvious? Maybe not, let me explain. You are a self proclaimed buyer and seller of tackle, presumably of higher end tackle. I've garnered this by reading your previous posts. I may be wrong, but feel I'm on the right track. Perhaps you are even a professional fisherman, earner of high accolades in the field, and with many trophies on your wall. And clearly, as a buyer and seller, and whatever else it is you are, you consider yourself the ultimate authority in the matters you choose to discuss here. All the while ignoring the fact that someone else may have gathered some experience, in a particularly narrow field, along the way.
As for me, I've obviously not risen to your level. I am merely a neophyte scarcely worthy of your time, and unworthy of any sort of civility. Nevertheless, the Achilles' heel of your position is the very fact I've mentioned before. You've ignored the fact that one can gain experience through time, if only in that narow field. Oh, I'd never claim to have the breadth of knowledge you possess, but a little experience, yes. Ignoring this is like forgetting the old hunter's axiom, "Beware the man with one gun. He probably knows how to use it."
Discussions like this aren't new to me. I deal with lawyers most days. Most of whom are brazenly secure in whatever knowledge they possess, while dismissing anyone else that dares to discuss something on their level. Like the lawyer who, when confronted with someone who can speak to their level, proclaims, "I went to law school at Villanova!" Well, sir, all that tells me is that any dummy can get into law school.
Thank you.
Pantera61 reply :
QuoteQuoteThat is the Achille's heel of your thesis. You don't mention how one's failure to accept his/her own inadequacies and shortcomings lead to ***, nay, jealousy of those with superior natural talent, obvious skill and I'm quite positive now, experience. You may well learn in time though, only then will you be able to join the big dogs on the porch rather than play with the pups in the yard.
Isn't it obvious? Maybe not, let me explain. You are a self proclaimed buyer and seller of tackle, presumably of higher end tackle. I've garnered this by reading your previous posts. I may be wrong, but feel I'm on the right track. Perhaps you are even a professional fisherman, earner of high accolades in the field, and with many trophies on your wall. And clearly, as a buyer and seller, and whatever else it is you are, you consider yourself the ultimate authority in the matters you choose to discuss here. All the while ignoring the fact that someone else may have gathered some experience, in a particularly narrow field, along the way.
As for me, I've obviously not risen to your level. I am merely a neophyte scarcely worthy of your time, and unworthy of any sort of civility. Nevertheless, the Achilles' heel of your position is the very fact I've mentioned before. You've ignored the fact that one can gain experience through time, if only in that narow field. Oh, I'd never claim to have the breadth of knowledge you possess, but a little experience, yes. Ignoring this is like forgetting the old hunter's axiom, "Beware the man with one gun. He probably knows how to use it."
Discussions like this aren't new to me. I deal with lawyers most days. Most of whom are brazenly secure in whatever knowledge they possess, while dismissing anyone else that dares to discuss something on their level. Like the lawyer who, when confronted with someone who can speak to their level, proclaims, "I went to law school at Villanova!" Well, sir, all that tells me is that any dummy can get into law school.
Thank you.
I think it's great. Fire tempers steel. I simply believe artistry lies not within the tool but in the hand that wields it.
coolhandlala reply :
I think you guys have proven that we need a "debate" section on this site, and anyone who says bass fishing is for rednecks needs to read this thread.
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Micro reply :
QuoteI think it's great. Fire tempers steel. I simply believe artistry lies not within the tool but in the hand that wields it.
Thanks for clarifying. I agree. I had been believing you thought it resided only in the mirror.
Pantera61 reply :
QuoteQuoteI think it's great. Fire tempers steel. I simply believe artistry lies not within the tool but in the hand that wields it.
Thanks for clarifying. I agree. I had been believing you thought it resided only in the mirror.
The thought is reciprocal.
bass wrangler569 reply :
As I have begun to see more and more rods on the market being made with EVA grips, I have become curious as to what advantages they provided over cork. Are they more comfortable or sensitive? For those of you that own both, which do you prefer, cork or EVA (or any other similar material) and why?
bass wrangler569 reply :
Oops, I need to get some more sleep. I seem to have posted this in the wrong section. If one of the mods would be kind of enough to move it...
:-[
paragon reply :
I am always amazed at what happens when someone brings up Revos and their controls.
Stasher1 reply :
I prefer the look of cork. It just looks classier, IMHO. Foam grips remind me of Ugly Sticks.
Muddy reply :
Cork,especially when my hands are cold.
Dan: reply :
I haven't noticed dirt or grime on my EVA while my cork grip rods get pretty dirty, even after a short time. Also, I don't like the feeling of cork in my hand when my hands and the cork are very dry. I think that's just me being weird though.
burleytog reply :
EVA or thread-wrapped graphite.
BARON49_Northern NY reply :
EVA when wet is slippery, when you catch a slimy fish seems the grips get all slimy as well, hard to clean and start to stink if not cleaned.
With cork you can wash it off easily, never gets slippery, easier to hang on to when cold outside, and from what I have seen holds up longer then EVA.
burleytog reply :
Why can't you wash (or clean) EVA easily?
BARON49_Northern NY reply :
Yes you can clean them with warm soapy water. Don't use something like 409 or some solvent cleaner as the smell stays in the EVA.
I had EVA on a couple of my Musky and Striper rods, did not care for the extra care and cleanup. Went back to cork.
retiredbosn reply :
I prefer the classic look and feel of cork. I'm turning 40 in a couple of weeks, so I'm a young guy, but I like the classics. I drive a HHR because it is designed after the 48 Suburban, I like retro everything. I am even feeling the draw to go with the round reels over the LP's.
Cravin reply :
Why come I can frow wateless wif my Sx, butt no un else can?
KYntucky Warmouth reply :
foam seems to hold smell a little easier than cork
T-Bone reply :
I like cork, solely for the look.
Calcutta reply :
QuoteI like cork, solely for the look.
Same for me.
Calcutta reply :
Let me make a statement .I can throw a weightless super fluke with my stx. I can not throw a weightless super fluke without several backlashes with my sx.Dont throw me to the lions.
ww2farmer reply :
Cork for me, and while I am at it, I also LIKE foregrips, and full rear handles.
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