Sniper And Invizx 2024
dam0007 reply :
While a lot of you guys are hot on the FC discussion.
Have any of you guys used both in 6#?
I've been using Invizx and their 6# feels like it's a 10# or more breaking strength... Is Sniper legitimate 6# or under rated as well? Is the durability similar as in it just breaks or does it peel like red label?
Seaguar ticked me off when I had the 3 bad spools of 10# last year. They didn't want to know nothing. Like TW is gonna take back 3 spools worth of line in a ball lol smh
Have been debating on switching it up and testing the waters elsewhere. The 6# comparison should give me a good ball park comparison for the other #s as well.
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
Have you considered YoZuri or other hybrid line? I really believe if a bass is sensitive to line at all is has more to do with diameter than visibility. I like the line with the thinnest diameter/breaking strength.
Mike L reply :
Well in comparision between the 2 lines, I can tell you from my experience with both but in heavier test ratings (min 12#) that Invisex will hold a SDJ or the no name knot better than any floro I've used.
Sniper doesn't kink as much and has a little less stretch, somewhat better sensativity, casts a bit farther and littler smoother.
The breaking strength of both is comparable, but I think Sniper is a more durable line.
Now, maybe on the thinner lines that you're asking about the lines are vastly different. I just thought Maybe I could help anyway.
Mike
DTack reply :
On 5/15/2015 at 10:07 PM, dam0007 said:While a lot of you guys are hot on the FC discussion.
Have any of you guys used both in 6#?
I've been using Invizx and their 6# feels like it's a 10# or more breaking strength... Is Sniper legitimate 6# or under rated as well? Is the durability similar as in it just breaks or does it peel like red label?
Seaguar ticked me off when I had the 3 bad spools of 10# last year. They didn't want to know nothing. Like TW is gonna take back 3 spools worth of line in a ball lol smh
Have been debating on switching it up and testing the waters elsewhere. The 6# comparison should give me a good ball park comparison for the other #s as well.
I prefer 7lb Sniper. Used it a while ago and just liked it enough I've never wanted to switch. Have a buddy who uses the invizx a lot and has a lot of weird break offs... still uses it haha which I don't know why but I'm a big fan of Sniper. I've caught largemouth up to 11lbs on it, and spots up to 6.8, as well as a 15lb largemouth caught on my boat with it. I believe it is thinner than the invisx in 6lb if I remember correctly.
dam0007 reply :
Thanks all! Appreciate feedback. I'm gonna do 2 660 yard spools, 7 and 12. Still have a full spool of 10# red label but this should be a good start.
dam0007 reply :
Wait a min. Is sniper Invizx and shooter abrazx in comparison? That's what I'm getting from reading up on Sunline. What's the deal with defier $34 for 300 yards of a mono?
Team9nine reply :
On 5/16/2015 at 12:21 AM, dam0007 said:Wait a min. Is sniper Invizx and shooter abrazx in comparison? That's what I'm getting from reading up on Sunline. What's the deal with defier $34 for 300 yards of a mono?
Pretty much...Sniper is the more easier handling and manageable line, Shooter is the more stiffer, abrasion resistant line - a bit tougher to handle.
Haven't messed with Defier yet, but it appears to be along the lines of a Yozuri Hybrid type line, a next gen co-poly that resists UV and doesn't absorb water.
On a separate note, I'd be shocked if 6# InvisX tested much greater than 7 pounds or so actual breaking strength. I'd guess nowhere near 10#. Most fluorocarbon lines tend to break within a pound or two of their stated values. I've thrown a lot of InvisX over the years and it is pretty soft stuff. I've never felt like it's strength was that underrated. Probably the extra stretch that makes it's strength a bit deceiving.
-T9
HoosierHawgs reply :
On 5/15/2015 at 10:43 PM, Mike L said:Well in comparision between the 2 lines, I can tell you from my experience with both but in heavier test ratings (min 12#) that Invisex will hold a SDJ or the no name knot better than any floro I've used.
Sniper doesn't kink as much and has a little less stretch, somewhat better sensativity, casts a bit farther and littler smoother.
The breaking strength of both is comparable, but I think Sniper is a more durable line.
Now, maybe on the thinner lines that you're asking about the lines are vastly different. I just thought Maybe I could help anyway.
Mike
It was definitely helpful for me at least! 
I've never used fluorocarbon line and am interested in purchasing some, but I'm worried going cheap with Red Label will not end well, so I'm going to try some "middle of the road" stuff.. not looking to throw 40 bones right away at Tatsu or Shooter. Would you recommend 15 lb Sniper for a guy who has never used fluorocarbon before?
HoosierHawgs reply :
On 5/16/2015 at 12:21 AM, dam0007 said:Wait a min. Is sniper Invizx and shooter abrazx in comparison? That's what I'm getting from reading up on Sunline. What's the deal with defier $34 for 300 yards of a mono?
I'd say that in terms of price Shooter is more like Tatsu???
Team9nine reply :
On 5/16/2015 at 1:17 AM, jakob1010 said:It was definitely helpful for me at least!
I've never used fluorocarbon line and am interested in purchasing some, but I'm worried going cheap with Red Label will not end well, so I'm going to try some "middle of the road" stuff.. not looking to throw 40 bones right away at Tatsu or Shooter. Would you recommend 15 lb Sniper for a guy who has never used fluorocarbon before?
Others might disagree, but if you've never tried fluorocarbon before, InvisX is probably one of the best lines a guy familiar with mono or coply can buy to try. It handles much more like a nylon/copoly, and has some of the best knot strength of any fluorocarbon, plus it is relatively inexpensive (from a FC point of view).
Another area where people go wrong (IMO) is in buying the same pound test fluoro as they currently use in nylon/copoly. Nearly every brand of nylon/copoly is severely underrated on the spool, whereas most fluorocarbons are just a pound or two different. Therefore, if you're used to using 12# copoly, that actually might have a breaking strength of 16-17#, don't buy a 12# fluoro to try as a comparison. Buy a 15# fluoro if you want a better "apples to apples" test.
-T9
HoosierHawgs reply :
Yeah I typically use 12 lb Trilene XL. My latest expansion in line is 1 spool of Berkley Pro Braid. 50 lb strength. So far, I like it.On 5/16/2015 at 1:27 AM, Team9nine said:Others might disagree, but if you've never tried fluorocarbon before, InvisX is probably one of the best lines a guy familiar with mono or coply can buy to try. It handles much more like a nylon/copoly, and has some of the best knot strength of any fluorocarbon, plus it is relatively inexpensive (from a FC point of view).
Another area where people go wrong (IMO) is in buying the same pound test fluoro as they currently use in nylon/copoly. Nearly every brand of nylon/copoly is severely underrated on the spool, whereas most fluorocarbons are just a pound or two different. Therefore, if you're used to using 12# copoly, that actually might have a breaking strength of 16-17#, don't buy a 12# fluoro to try as a comparison. Buy a 15# fluoro if you want a better "apples to apples" test.
-T9
Mike L reply :
On 5/16/2015 at 1:17 AM, jakob1010 said:It was definitely helpful for me at least!
No, If I've never thrown any floro before I would not pay the extra for the "top of the line" stuff like Tasu, Shooter and Sniper until I've used other good, quality but less expensive lines.
There's a leaning curve over mono that you'd be best served to get comfortable with, given your style and intended use.
The "middle of the road" lines like P Line, Invisex, or maybe even the top BPS brand would give you a better idea if floro was something you'd want to stick with. Then if funds allow you can try one of the other more expensive lines and go from there.
Mike
SenkoGuru reply :
I don't believe Shooter and red label is a fair comparison. One is $34.00 and the other is $10.00
HoosierHawgs reply :
Wasn't comparing. I was saying I don't want to buy cheap line and it to go bad, and I don't want to sink 40 bones into a spool of line either.On 5/16/2015 at 1:50 AM, SenkoGuru said:I don't believe Shooter and red label is a fair comparison. One is $34.00 and the other is $10.00
dam0007 reply :
On 5/16/2015 at 1:12 AM, Team9nine said:Pretty much...Sniper is the more easier handling and manageable line, Shooter is the more stiffer, abrasion resistant line - a bit tougher to handle.
Haven't messed with Defier yet, but it appears to be along the lines of a Yozuri Hybrid type line, a next gen co-poly that resists UV and doesn't absorb water.
On a separate note, I'd be shocked if 6# InvisX tested much greater than 7 pounds or so actual breaking strength. I'd guess nowhere near 10#. Most fluorocarbon lines tend to break within a pound or two of their stated values. I've thrown a lot of InvisX over the years and it is pretty soft stuff. I've never felt like it's strength was that underrated. Probably the extra stretch that makes it's strength a bit deceiving.
-T9
Example I throw senkos wacky rigged with a size 1 hook in a ML rod with 6# Invizx. There's times I get hung up skipping around trees and I can't break the stuff. Crank down, grab spool and pull for dear life and no break. Lol
dam0007 reply :
On 5/16/2015 at 1:17 AM, jakob1010 said:It was definitely helpful for me at least!
Red Label isn't bad at all for the price. I use it a lot for cranks, jerks flukes.
dam0007 reply :
Grabbed a small spool of 12 sniper to try this weekend gonna wait till Memorial Day sales kick in before I jump overboard.
benthinkin reply :
On 5/15/2015 at 10:45 PM, DTack said:I prefer 7lb Sniper. Used it a while ago and just liked it enough I've never wanted to switch. Have a buddy who uses the invizx a lot and has a lot of weird break offs... still uses it haha which I don't know why but I'm a big fan of Sniper. I've caught largemouth up to 11lbs on it, and spots up to 6.8, as well as a 15lb largemouth caught on my boat with it. I believe it is thinner than the invisx in 6lb if I remember correctly.
^^^^^^^^^ This!!!!! 7lb sniper is great stuff
aprilbass101 reply :
Honestly....Their both good fluorocarbon lines! I'll have to agree with Mike.L. I give the edge to FC....a little less memory, more sensativity, & little less stretch than InvizX! I don't fish 6# test so I can't really compare the two lines for you in that diameter but I do fish 10# & 12# in both lines on my baitcasters. I use InvizX for my crankbaits, FC for single hook applications, & FC for all my leaders! If i'm not mistaken as you go up in FC # their diameters are a few thousands less than most fluorocarbon brands! Good luck
ChrisD46 reply :
On 5/15/2015 at 10:45 PM, DTack said:I prefer 7lb Sniper. Used it a while ago and just liked it enough I've never wanted to switch. Have a buddy who uses the invizx a lot and has a lot of weird break offs... still uses it haha which I don't know why but I'm a big fan of Sniper. I've caught largemouth up to 11lbs on it, and spots up to 6.8, as well as a 15lb largemouth caught on my boat with it. I believe it is thinner than the invisx in 6lb if I remember correctly.
^^This^^ ... Great size for drop shot or shakyhead - I only have to learn one line now and buying in a larger spool saves $$ !
21farms reply :
On 5/15/2015 at 10:07 PM, dam0007 said:Seaguar ticked me off when I had the 3 bad spools of 10# last year. They didn't want to know nothing. Like TW is gonna take back 3 spools worth of line in a ball lol smh
i was a big seaguar guy...i've used invisx, abrazx and red label. seaguar was great with communication when i emailed them with questions about their line. however, my last spool of 10# abrazx was bad...it kept snapping me off repeatedly, even with freshly-spooled line and freshly lubricated and carefully tied knots. when i emailed them then, i was totally stonewalled. that opened the door for me to try sunline and i haven't looked back since. i like sniper FC so much better...softer, more supple, doesn't kink as easily and have yet to have a problem with the line...i have it in every test from 7 to 20...great line.
thehooligan reply :
I use 7lb sniper on my bfs setups, nice line I just hate tieing knots with flouro. I've actually switched to 4-6lb hybrid.
dam0007 reply :
On 5/17/2015 at 1:28 AM, 21farms said:i was a big seaguar guy...i've used invisx, abrazx and red label. seaguar was great with communication when i emailed them with questions about their line. however, my last spool of 10# abrazx was bad...it kept snapping me off repeatedly, even with freshly-spooled line and freshly lubricated and carefully tied knots. when i emailed them then, i was totally stonewalled. that opened the door for me to try sunline and i haven't looked back since. i like sniper FC so much better...softer, more supple, doesn't kink as easily and have yet to have a problem with the line...i have it in every test from 7 to 20...great line.
The thread I made is here somewhere but in a nutshell. No one at the time had bulk 10# Invizx for a reasonable price. So I ordered 3 200 yard spools on sale at TW. All 3 spools every 15 inches or so was the littlest almost like a crimp. Not a knick or bump. Just looked like someone pinched it with needle nose pliers. I was thinking maybe I was bumping the edge of that weird lip on the spools the line comes on. Got home after losing some lures and sure enough the remaining line on yes, all 3 spools had the crimps. Utter BS. I was given the runaround on the phone. Emailed never got a response. Finally got ahold of someone a few weeks or so and they said its TWs fault and return it to them.
Any how have the 12# sniper tied on and gonna give it a whirl.
dam0007 reply :
how is 7 on spinning?On 5/17/2015 at 1:59 AM, thehooligan said:I use 7lb sniper on my bfs setups, nice line I just hate tieing knots with flouro. I've actually switched to 4-6lb hybrid.
thehooligan reply :
Don't use spinning reels anymore but I know plenty of guys use 7&8lb on spinning gear with no problems. I prefer braid with fluoro leaders on spinning reels personally...
dam0007 reply :
On 5/17/2015 at 8:23 AM, thehooligan said:Don't use spinning reels anymore but I know plenty of guys use 7&8lb on spinning gear with no problems. I prefer braid with fluoro leaders on spinning reels personally...
Good to know thanks
Mike L reply :
On 5/17/2015 at 8:23 AM, thehooligan said:Don't use spinning reels anymore but I know plenty of guys use 7&8lb on spinning gear with no problems. I prefer braid with fluoro leaders on spinning reels personally...
I thought I was the only one... ;]
Mike
WPCfishing reply :
On 5/15/2015 at 10:45 PM, DTack said:I prefer 7lb Sniper. Used it a while ago and just liked it enough I've never wanted to switch. Have a buddy who uses the invizx a lot and has a lot of weird break offs... still uses it haha which I don't know why but I'm a big fan of Sniper. I've caught largemouth up to 11lbs on it, and spots up to 6.8, as well as a 15lb largemouth caught on my boat with it. I believe it is thinner than the invisx in 6lb if I remember correctly.
I'm using P-Line CX now. The line does everything well. You may want to give it a try.
Invisx was an absolute nightmare and Seaguar owns up to nothing negative. I will never buy Seaguar line again nor will I endorse them positively in anyway. Bottom line is they took $100.00 from me and laughed all the way to the bank. They're line sucks and so does the company.
DTack reply :
On 5/18/2015 at 9:06 PM, WPCfishing said:I'm using P-Line CX now. The line does everything well. You may want to give it a try.
Invisx was an absolute nightmare and Seaguar owns up to nothing negative. I will never buy Seaguar line again nor will I endorse them positively in anyway. Bottom line is they took $100.00 from me and laughed all the way to the bank. They're line sucks and so does the company.
Thanks for the suggestion but I have plenty of confidence in sniper!
WPCfishing reply :
On 5/18/2015 at 10:07 PM, DTack said:Thanks for the suggestion but I have plenty of confidence in sniper!
I'd like to try 16# Sniper.. I'll buy some this week.
Before I bought the Seajunk I was going to buy Sunline Reaction. They didn't offer 1000 yard spools so I passed. BIG mistake.
dam0007 reply :
Won lunker yesterday cranking with 10# red label. Must've retied 50-60 times. Smfh lol
Question: how much more abrasion resistant is Shooter over Sniper. All treble baits except lipless I throw 10#. If I do bulk I'm not doing a bulk of both with sniper for jerkbaits and shooter for everything else. If it's much more abrasion resistant I may go shooter but if it's minimal I'll stick with sniper
senile1 reply :
On 5/18/2015 at 9:06 PM, WPCfishing said:I'm using P-Line CX now. The line does everything well. You may want to give it a try.
Invisx was an absolute nightmare and Seaguar owns up to nothing negative. I will never buy Seaguar line again nor will I endorse them positively in anyway. Bottom line is they took $100.00 from me and laughed all the way to the bank. They're line sucks and so does the company.
I like Sunline and have had good results with Seaguar Invisx as well. I can honestly say I have never had an issue with break-offs with Invisx or manageability over a number of years of use. It does have a bit more stretch than I would like. Like any line, you should check your line regularly for nicks and abrasion to avoid break-offs.
There are a lot of guys on here who like the Seaguar Invisx line so I was curious about the details of your issues with it. Maybe I can learn something. It is not the best fluoro for rocky environments, by the way.
WPCfishing reply :
On 5/18/2015 at 11:14 PM, senile1 said:I like Sunline and have had good results with Seaguar Invisx as well. I can honestly say I have never had an issue with break-offs with Invisx or manageability over a number of years of use. It does have a bit more stretch than I would like. Like any line, you should check your line regularly for nicks and abrasion to avoid break-offs.
There are a lot of guys on here who like the Seaguar Invisx line so I was curious about the details of your issues with it. Maybe I can learn something. It is not the best fluoro for rocky environments, by the way.
I've been fishing for 50 years. Fished BASS in 80's and 90s in the North East. I'm no rookie. .... Brand new invisx line, second cast breaks off mid way.. over and over.. emailed Seaguar. they responded by telling me it was caused by a backlash. They blamed me for bad line. There are post all over forums about how bad invisx is.. I'll never invest in Seajunk line again.
There are as many guys who hate the stuff and been scr*wed with it as I have. They got the same response email I got.
I offered to send the line to them for evaluation. They ignored that........
dam0007 reply :
Don't get me wrong I like the line(invizx) when I don't get a bad spool. The fact seaguar, as reported by me and countless others, does not as a company stand behind their product in the realm of manufacturers defects, is what sways everyone to other brands.
FryDog62 reply :
I did a line stretch test recently and it included both Invizx and Sniper in the test of 20 different lines (all 8 pound test lines). By far Invizx stretched more than Sniper and it even broke twice during the test whereas Sniper did not. It would be an easy decision for me personally to go with Sniper...
senile1 reply :
On 5/18/2015 at 11:25 PM, WPCfishing said:I've been fishing for 50 years. Fished BASS in 80's and 90s in the North East. I'm no rookie. .... Brand new invisx line, second cast breaks off mid way.. over and over.. emailed Seaguar. they responded by telling me it was caused by a backlash. They blamed me for bad line. There are post all over forums about how bad invisx is.. I'll never invest in Seajunk line again.
There are as many guys who hate the stuff and been scr*wed with it as I have. They got the same response email I got.
I offered to send the line to them for evaluation. They ignored that........
Thanks for the information. I've never had to deal with their customer service. Fortunately, I have not encountered any bad line with Seaguar . . . . yet. 
DTack reply :
On 5/18/2015 at 10:41 PM, WPCfishing said:I'd like to try 16# Sniper.. I'll buy some this week.
Before I bought the Seajunk I was going to buy Sunline Reaction. They didn't offer 1000 yard spools so I passed. BIG mistake.
16 is one of my favorites! It's such a thin line it doesn't feel like you're fishing with a 15/16lb test line. I use it a lot for my jigs in open water/rocky situations. Also for things like chatterbaits, some squarebill cranks, spinnerbaits and a heavy dropshot in cover or around docks and grass!
WPCfishing reply :
On 5/19/2015 at 5:36 AM, DTack said:16 is one of my favorites! It's such a thin line it doesn't feel like you're fishing with a 15/16lb test line. I use it a lot for my jigs in open water/rocky situations. Also for things like chatterbaits, some squarebill cranks, spinnerbaits and a heavy dropshot in cover or around docks and grass!
That makes good sense.
I just bought my first spool of braid. I went with Sufix 832.. I like the feel of 16-17 so I opted for 65#. Hope I did the right thing. I'll be using it for pitching.
Seagaur lost my business....... Farcem!
dam0007 reply :
832 is good stuff! I use it for frogs, lipless cranks.On 5/19/2015 at 8:30 AM, WPCfishing said:That makes good sense.
I just bought my first spool of braid. I went with Sufix 832.. I like the feel of 16-17 so I opted for 65#. Hope I did the right thing. I'll be using it for pitching.
Seagaur lost my business....... Farcem!
KayakBasser reply :
Invisx all the way!...no competition.
dam0007 reply :
I want whatever you're smoking!!On 5/20/2015 at 2:26 AM, KayakBasser said:Invisx all the way!...no competition.
illinifan4152 reply :
I'm also an avid fan of seaguar invisix. I have never had a problem with it.
dam0007 reply :
On 5/20/2015 at 3:22 AM, illinifan4152 said:I'm also an avid fan of seaguar invisix. I have never had a problem with it.
Me too, but bad spools and customer support that doesn't care wether or not their customers got screwed over isn't cool,
illinifan4152 reply :
Well I'm sorry to hear that. Luckily I have yet to get a bad spool of it. (Knock on wood)
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