Dobyns Rods Moving to Texas 2024
Chowderhead reply :
Just read a post from Gary Dobyns that he is moving his primary operations from California to Texas. Here is a snippet:
QuoteTHX guys!! Yes, Dobyns Rods will be moving to Sulphur Springs TX in 2018. Keeping it simple and politically correct…..I’m sick of CA taxes, rules, regulations, and politicians. Honestly, we live in the countryside here. We have excellent fishing, hunting, and great weather, but still fall under CA’s thumb.
We have started a warehouse, we’ve bought a house, and some property too. I’m lucky enough to have fished in TX a bit and I have many friends already there too. It’s always tough to move from “home” but it’ll be a great move for us. We’re lucky to be bringing several key employees and my daughter Miranda as well. Richard will remain in CA but I’m hoping he’ll get the itch to move in the near future. He does have a walnut orchard that’s quite an investment that’s a factor too.
Catt reply :
All the smart anglers moving to Texas ????
Chris_97TJ reply :
Cause Texas is where it’s at!! This is cool, looking forward to getting to drop into the shop since they’ll be so close!
NorcalBassin reply :
I can relate to all of that... love where I am and isolated from a lot of the crazy CA things up here in the mountains, but the taxes and other things do start wearing on you. Best wishes to them with the move and continued success.
WRB reply :
I understand the move for business reasons and the crazy California unfriendly taxes and political leadership. Gary lives in Yuba City near Marysville, beautiful area with Seirras to the east, Delta to the west and surrounded by fishing and hunting opertunities.
Good luck Gary.
Tom
bholtzinger14 reply :
That is about 2.5 hours from me. Any benefits to living close?
DINK WHISPERER reply :
Dang it, why not FL ????. I'm sure they will do great wherever they go.
burrows reply :
California is a great place to live it's a beautiful place, but the political landscape and policies can be unpleasant for some, enuf to drive some people away.
Junger reply :
On 12/3/2017 at 10:32 PM, Burro said:California is a great place to live it's a beautiful place, but the political landscape and policies can be unpleasant for some, enuf to drive some people away.
Understandable, but I'd also consider that many of the regulations are meant to keep CA such a beautiful place. I'd move to either one of those states over the DC metro area if i had my choice (wife won't let me!)
Chowderhead reply :
Setting aside the reasons for the move, it will be interesting to see how this helps spread the brand to other parts of the Country.
HookRz reply :
Great! With all the tax money they will save when do we see the price drop on the rods?
Oregon Native reply :
Good luck to Gary and family
Columbia Craw reply :
I for one, wish Gary and his family well. That fact Sulpher Springs is about, what, 25 minutes from Lake Fork might have twisted his arm.
ClackerBuzz reply :
This past summer i had a a Champion spinning rod snap in half while casting a 5" senko. clearly a defect so I paid the money to ship it to them (they won't give a free replacement rod unless the defect is inspected). well you may have guessed it...they ruled it was rules my fault. of course i asked how and the woman replied "Well the rod IS 4 years old". my reply... "A small blip on the radar for a LIFETIME guarantee". i told her they were losing a customer for life if they wouldn't back their product. after the worse customer service experience I had to pay $70 for a replacement rod. that was the last Dobyns rod I'll ever purchase...and I could care less if they move to Texas, China or Timbuktu. YMMV
CroakHunter reply :
On 12/14/2017 at 1:34 PM, ClackerBuzz said:This past summer i had a a Champion spinning rod snap in half while casting a 5" senko. clearly a defect so I paid the money to ship it to them (they won't give a free replacement rod unless the defect is inspected). well you may have guessed it...they ruled it was rules my fault. of course i asked how and the woman replied "Well the rod IS 4 years old". my reply... "A small blip on the radar for a LIFETIME guarantee". i told her they were losing a customer for life if they wouldn't back their product. after the worse customer service experience I had to pay $70 for a replacement rod. that was the last Dobyns rod I'll ever purchase...and I could care less if they move to Texas, China or Timbuktu. YMMV
I think that's why they are moving to texas, lower taxes and a central shipping location, to save money from the one customer that wanted a free rod after 4 years of use and abuse. And won't be returning lol
Boomstick reply :
On 12/3/2017 at 11:54 PM, Junger said:Understandable, but I'd also consider that many of the regulations are meant to keep CA such a beautiful place. I'd move to either one of those states over the DC metro area if i had my choice (wife won't let me!)
Some of them are, but some of them don't make sense to be in California unless your business is hard tied to being in California, and manufacturing rods or anything else is not. Personally, I'd move to Oregon because I wouldn't mind living there 
ClackerBuzz reply :
On 12/14/2017 at 2:14 PM, CroakHunter said:to save money from the one customer that wanted a free rod after 4 years of use and abuse. And won't be returning lol
wow you twisted my story like it's ur profession. 'free rod'? if wanting someone to back their product/warranty makes me a jerk then so be it. 'use and abuse'? the rod was literally flawless and even had a beautiful longer cork handle built by Mike@DVT.
believe me when I say I'm not offended by the laughter of a man who hasn't had it happen to him....yet
iabass8 reply :
On 12/15/2017 at 2:05 AM, ClackerBuzz said:wow you twisted my story like it's ur profession. 'free rod'? if wanting someone to back their product/warranty makes me a jerk then so be it. 'use and abuse'? the rod was literally flawless and even had a beautiful longer cork handle built by Mike@DVT.
believe me when I say I'm not offended by the laughter of a man who hasn't had it happen to him....yet
Unless a rod had been sitting in a dark room unused for 4 years, a 4 year old break isnt a defect.
NYWayfarer reply :
On 12/2/2017 at 10:31 PM, Catt said:All the smart anglers moving to Texas ????
Didn't the Googan Squad relocate there? 
Boomstick reply :
On 12/15/2017 at 2:05 AM, ClackerBuzz said:wow you twisted my story like it's ur profession. 'free rod'? if wanting someone to back their product/warranty makes me a jerk then so be it. 'use and abuse'? the rod was literally flawless and even had a beautiful longer cork handle built by Mike@DVT.
believe me when I say I'm not offended by the laughter of a man who hasn't had it happen to him....yet
Wait, so let me get this straight, you owned the rod for 4 years but never used it until the day you broke it? Or you used it for 4 years?
Chris_97TJ reply :
On 12/15/2017 at 3:18 AM, NYWayfarer said:Didn't the Googan Squad relocate there?
@Catt didn't say every angler moving to Texas was smart.....just that all the smart anglers were moving here......semantics
ClackerBuzz reply :
On 12/15/2017 at 2:40 AM, iabass8 said:Unless a rod had been sitting in a dark room unused for 4 years, a 4 year old break isnt a defect.
On 12/15/2017 at 3:42 AM, Boomstick said:Wait, so let me get this straight, you owned the rod for 4 years but never used it until the day you broke it? Or you used it for 4 years?
1 Don't feed the trolls.
2 Dobyns is the greatest company on Earth.
3 Goodnight Irene.
WRB reply :
Gary Dobyns is a very generous man and takes pride in his company and customer service. To bash a companies reputation because you modified the rod, voiding any warranty, broke it after 4 years and expecting a free replacement is beyond reason.
It sounds like you did get a new rod for $70. How do you know the rod had a factory defect and you didn't damage the rod after 4 years of use? I know of no rod company that would replace a 4 year old modified rod free.
Tom
Stephen B reply :
I am curious as to how manufacturers can tell whether it was the fault of an owner or a defect. Obviously, a rod is likely to break in the first couple of trips with a defect. But, people say that you can tell by how it breaks. Can someone provide more detailed information?
long island basser reply :
On 12/15/2017 at 10:09 AM, Stephen B said:I am curious as to how manufacturers can tell whether it was the fault of an owner or a defect. Obviously, a rod is likely to break in the first couple of trips with a defect. But, people say that you can tell by how it breaks. Can someone provide more detailed information?
Pitching a jig into a lay down this past September using my 14 month old DX 705C I had a hit, set the hook, fish pulled, I pulled back and snapped the rod right in the middle.
One clean break, why I don’t know. Wrote a letter explaining what took place with payment of 2 checks totaling $100.
$80 for new rod, $20 for shipping.
Hopeing I might get lucky and get my $80 ck back. No dice.
Love the rod and I’m not mad, just wondering also what is defect or operator error.
WRB reply :
The person who can answer that question for you is Gary Dobyns. His phone number my not be working during the move? His email is, so contact Gary directly for the answer.
Tom
CroakHunter reply :
On 12/15/2017 at 10:09 AM, Stephen B said:I am curious as to how manufacturers can tell whether it was the fault of an owner or a defect. Obviously, a rod is likely to break in the first couple of trips with a defect. But, people say that you can tell by how it breaks. Can someone provide more detailed information?
I have no idea how they do it, but I work for a large automotive manufacturer and deal with paint/plastic quality mainly. We have a lot of tools and equipment including sonars and microscopes that help us determine not only if it was a defect or if it was mutilated. Most of the time we can figure out when, where, and how the mutilation occurred. Also keeping records of reported problems can assist in the determination of the problem. But back to the thread, that's great he is getting out of California if that is what he feels like is best. Texas has some great fishing so I've heard. I believe this spring will be the time I pick up my first (and probably not last) dobyns.
1201vilbig reply :
While I understand & agree with all of the comments regarding a 4 year old modified rod, what if it were unmodified?
The answer would still be the same for a 4 year old rod. So the "Lifetime Warranty" is really sales & marketing blah blah other than giving you the opportunity to purchase a replacement at a reduced cost. But saying it's a one year warranty with the same replacement option just doesn't sound as sexy.
bueshy reply :
Im glad they are coming to texas. Yee haw Dobyns
Stephen B reply :
I've always wanted to fish Lake Fork, Lake Falcon, Sam Rayburn, Toledo Bend, etc. Texas is loaded with great lakes. Very jealous!
iabass8 reply :
On 12/15/2017 at 12:40 PM, 1201vilbig said:While I understand & agree with all of the comments regarding a 4 year old modified rod, what if it were unmodified?
The answer would still be the same for a 4 year old rod. So the "Lifetime Warranty" is really sales & marketing blah blah other than giving you the opportunity to purchase a replacement at a reduced cost. But saying it's a one year warranty with the same replacement option just doesn't sound as sexy.
The problem with this train of thought and OP’s is people equate the word “warranty” with “free replacement”. After 4 years you break your rod and the warranty offers you a 70$ replacement for a 230-240$ rod is beyond resonable. When people put in these warranty claims for a rod they always feel that their situation is unique when in reality eight out of 10 I would bet warranty claims sound the exact same. Every time it’s the same excuse… “I baby my stuff , it’s flawless” or “I swung on a 12 inch fish with a 1/16 weight and the rod snapped in half” if your rod does not break within at most the first year, there are no manufacturer defects and a breakage at that point is user error and a free replacement should never be warranted although it does happen on occasion. If a rod company took everybody’s excuse at face value there wouldnt be anymore Rod companies left.
TOXIC reply :
Totally depends on the type of warranty. Those rod companies that offer a lifetime warranty do so KNOWING that if the rod is 4, 5 ,....10 years old, more than likely it's not a manufacturer defect. If they try to limit their "lifetime" warranty to manufacturers defects then it is no more than marketing. You only find the lifetime warranties on upper end rods why? Because the cost of that "no-fault" warranty is built in to the price of the rod up front. Now they can hedge their bet and charge a replacement fee, that allows them to keep the cost down on the front sale. Just know what kind of warranty you are getting when you purchase your rod. Warranty costs are built into the price for rods...period.
1201vilbig reply :
On 12/15/2017 at 8:04 PM, iabass8 said:The problem with this train of thought and OP’s is people equate the word “warranty” with “free replacement”. After 4 years you break your rod and the warranty offers you a 70$ replacement for a 230-240$ rod is beyond resonable. When people put in these warranty claims for a rod they always feel that their situation is unique when in reality eight out of 10 I would bet warranty claims sound the exact same. Every time it’s the same excuse… “I baby my stuff , it’s flawless” or “I swung on a 12 inch fish with a 1/16 weight and the rod snapped in half” if your rod does not break within at most the first year, there are no manufacturer defects and a breakage at that point is user error and a free replacement should never be warranted although it does happen on occasion. If a rod company took everybody’s excuse at face value there wouldnt be anymore Rod companies left.
While I agree with and understand your statement, I still have a problem with the word "warranty". If my car breaks down in year 3 of a 5 year warranty, they fix it. They do not ask for an additional payment. I would just prefer that they say after one year, we offer a lifetime discounted replacement cost program. Totally eliminates the issues you raise.
iabass8 reply :
On 12/16/2017 at 3:24 AM, 1201vilbig said:While I agree with and understand your statement, I still have a problem with the word "warranty". If my car breaks down in year 3 of a 5 year warranty, they fix it. They do not ask for an additional payment. I would just prefer that they say after one year, we offer a lifetime discounted replacement cost program. Totally eliminates the issues you raise.
And that's the issue that many people get confused with. The word "warranty" doesn't mean "free replacement" and I think that's where people almost always are misinformed on what an actual "limited lifetime warranty" really is (Dobyns has a limited lifetime warranty for what it's worth). Comparing your car's warranty isn't like comparing that of a fishing rod. It isn't apples to apples. Warranty means different things to different companies. Every single company/product (for the most part) has a clear description of what their warranty is. Dobyns is no different. It states right on their warranty page what it is. What most likely irritates rod companies the most is when people say after 4 years that their rod is broken and they expect a new one for free because it has a "lifetime warranty". Again, warranty doesn't mean "free replacement". The OP was more than welcome to send it in for a free inspection and he could have lucked out and got one for free. Companies like St. Croix, Dobyns, and GLoomis all have a fee for replacing a broken rod. There are instances where a company will replace a rod for free but it isn't the norm and it should never be expected after you have used a rod for more than a year. A defective rod will break during normal use during the first few outings and the very least within the first year. Could they avoid some confusion not calling it a lifetime warranty and instead call it a discounted xxxxxxx warranty? Sure. However, there would be very little confusion if people actually read what the warranty is on the webpage or just be speaking with the company.
Columbia Craw reply :
The same warranty language is moving to Texas. Time to rest this horse, don't you think ?
Chowderhead reply :
On 12/16/2017 at 5:49 AM, Columbia Craw said:The same warranty language is moving to Texas. Time to rest this horse, don't you think ?
Yep, agreed! Good luck to Gary on the move, and excited to see what his new high end rod lineup is for 2018.
npl_texas reply :
On 12/16/2017 at 7:37 AM, Chowderhead said:Yep, agreed! Good luck to Gary on the move, and excited to see what his new high end rod lineup is for 2018.
I'm very interested in the new rods. Have any more details come out recently?
NYWayfarer reply :
On 12/16/2017 at 3:24 AM, 1201vilbig said:While I agree with and understand your statement, I still have a problem with the word "warranty". If my car breaks down in year 3 of a 5 year warranty, they fix it. They do not ask for an additional payment. I would just prefer that they say after one year, we offer a lifetime discounted replacement cost program. Totally eliminates the issues you raise.
That’s only if you have a “bumper to bumper” warranty. Most car warranties are on the power train only.
Honestly even a bumper to bumper bumper warranty is not going to cover things that go wrong due to driver negligence.
What most people are looking for is rod insurance not a warranty. I would pay a bit extra to insure that if my rod breaks in the first 2 Year’s they will replace it for free. After 2 years I will be on the hunt for a new rod anyway and have gotten my money’s worth of the old one. Store like Dick’s offer this insurance when you buy the rod.
dam0007 reply :
Not to mention the libs in CA laundered the money that was supposed to repair the dam over the past 15 years. The same dam that if it blows out is up hill from Dobyns headquarters. This is a great move for the company!
Angry John reply :
On 12/17/2017 at 5:45 AM, dam0007 said:Not to mention the libs in CA laundered the money that was supposed to repair the dam over the past 15 years. The same dam that if it blows out is up hill from Dobyns headquarters. This is a great move for the company!
It's called the general fund. It's how they slush money and pay for things they want instead of what they should. Herst castle provides all income to the general fund and people try and raise donations for repair and restoration. It's really crap.
dam0007 reply :
On 12/17/2017 at 9:35 AM, Angry John said:It's called the general fund. It's how they slush money and pay for things they want instead of what they should. Herst castle provides all income to the general fund and people try and raise donations for repair and restoration. It's really crap.
CT is ran the same way. The entire fisheries department here is ran on donations and a volunteer basis. DEEP is trying to pass a Trout tax stamp in permits and a separate Salmon stamp. Smfh
Angry John reply :
On 12/17/2017 at 12:32 PM, dam0007 said:CT is ran the same way. The entire fisheries department here is ran on donations and a volunteer basis. DEEP is trying to pass a Trout tax stamp in permits and a separate Salmon stamp. Smfh
Yea CT is implodING the same as California. It's a dam shame as there was a lot of good fishing there. Spent most of my time out in eastern CT and never got to candlewood. The rivers are fun to yak as well. Find CT politics strange being the constitution state...
dam0007 reply :
On 12/17/2017 at 10:07 PM, Angry John said:Yea CT is implodING the same as California. It's a dam shame as there was a lot of good fishing there. Spent most of my time out in eastern CT and never got to candlewood. The rivers are fun to yak as well. Find CT politics strange being the constitution state...
Lol It says Constitution State on our license plates... I’ve seen license plate frames that say the unconstitutional state lol The state ruined Lillinonah and Zoar and started ruining Candlewood as well. Constantly nuking the weeds. These people build mansions on the lakes, million dollar landscaping jobs, all the fertilizer runs off, weeds grow and their solution nuke the living hell out of the lake as if it’s their private swimming pool. Smh
evilcatfish reply :
On 12/16/2017 at 7:37 AM, Chowderhead said:Yep, agreed! Good luck to Gary on the move, and excited to see what his new high end rod lineup is for 2018.
Are you referring to the new enthusiast level rods I've heard about? Definitely excited to see them
Chowderhead reply :
On 12/19/2017 at 3:50 AM, evilcatfish said:Are you referring to the new enthusiast level rods I've heard about? Definitely excited to see them
Not exactly sure what the official name of line will be, but Gary has confirmed a new high end line of rods that will be announced in 2018. Hopefully the move does not affect the rollout.
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