Ned rig with a baitcaster 2024

Mjmj reply :

Is it possible to throw a Ned rig with a baitcaster? If so what rod and reel would be suitable for this?

Mjmj reply :

Is it possible to throw a Ned rig with a baitcaster? If so what rod and reel would be suitable for this?

Big-Bass reply :

A true Ned Rig (1/16oz. head with the bait) would be tough unless you are using a Daiwa SV spool and/or a specific BFS rod and reel. Spinning tackle is much easier overall unless you want to spend extra money on a very specific light line/presentation bait caster. If you choose a heavier mushroom head, you defeat the purpose of the Ned Rig. I hope this helps.

bigturtle reply :

yes it is.

You want a reel with a super shallow spool, a cheap one would run you about $150
A light baitcast rod may be hard to find in the US but easy find in Japan, probably run you $100-150 for a decent one.

DogBone_384 reply :

I have a Diawa Pixy68 on a 6'10" *** ML/F.

It tosses Neds a mile.

I'm pretty sure any quality (and/or tuned) reel on a ML castine rod with some whip to it would work just as well.

FrankN209 reply :

I have my Steez SV TW on a 6'10" ML rod and can throw ned rigs all day long

fishnkamp reply :

Spinning reels were made to cover techniques that use super light finesse baits. Match a good light reel up with a super sensitive rod and you have a great combo.

Angry John reply :

YES you can, but not for less money. Be prepared to spend double for the same quality of setup.

QUAKEnSHAKE reply :

I use Shimano Curado 70 and Daiwa SV105 reels. I use Medium Light powered rods 6'9" & 7'6". With these combos throwing 1/20 TRD's is easily accomplished.

Raul reply :

Of course it is possible, any decent baitcaster can throw that sucker with the right line and the right rod.

tander reply :

I sure you can do it but a spinning rod with light line is so much better,

RoLo reply :

The standard mushroom jig for a Ned Rig weighs 1/16 oz.

If you're using a Med-Hvy casting rod, you'll have to settle for 25-ft casts.

Roger

rippin-lips reply :

Yes, it's possible with the right setup. For me that setup was a light power casting rod with a Daiwa Tdz that had a shallow bfs spool in it, and I had it spooled with #6 sunline mono. They weigh more than most people realize BUT the technique tends to work better with a spinning combo.

QUAKEnSHAKE reply :

On 3/16/2017 at 10:18 AM, RoLo said:

The standard mushroom jig for a Ned Rig weighs 1/16 oz.

If you're using a Med-Hvy casting rod, you'll have to settle for 25-ft casts.

Roger

My kids were wide-eyed and curious at me just now. I went out in the cold to find out what is possible. I used 1/20 trd a 50E reel with one green brake and 20 pound braid on a 7' MH/F Shimano Crucial1/4-1oz lure rated rod. Easily 3 times the amount highlighted. These TRD's are small compact aero dense baits not airy like say shad raps

JustinJ reply :

Much easier on spinning rod

kickerfish1 reply :

I agree with all the other folks that it can be done but at a much higher cost than a comparable spinning rig. That little cigar bait will be pretty aerodynamic for the most part with a finesse casting reel and a L or ML rod. You can probably find a ML or L casting rod for a reasonable price (Major Craft makes some great rods in this size) but a reel will run you a bit more as you will need something in finesse form stock or able to accept a finesse spool.

IndianaFinesse reply :

You can, but why spend 10× the amount of a spinning combo on a high end baitcaster? I would recommend using a spinning rod instead, a cheap medium lite powered fast action rod between 6'-7'. You don't need sensitivity for the ned, since you are using a no-feel retrieve. I used to use an ml/f 6'10" Abu Garcia villain for my ned rod, but now I have switched over to a medium powered (it fishes like a medium lite) fast action 6'6" vortex. I prefer the vortex over the villian (for the ned rig, not other techniques), even though the villain retails for $200 and the vortex only cost $13.

Yudo1 reply :

I use an alphas sv on a medium/light rod. I prefer casting reels for everything except drop shots and live bait.

OCdockskipper reply :

Yes you can.

You can also use a lawn mower to cut a hedge, a high heel shoe to drive a nail and a fork to eat ice cream.

RoLo reply :

On 3/16/2017 at 11:08 AM, QUAKEnSHAKE said:

My kids were wide-eyed and curious at me just now. I went out in the cold to find out what is possible. I used 1/20 trd a 50E reel with one green brake and 20 pound braid on a 7' MH/F Shimano Crucial1/4-1oz lure rated rod. Easily 3 times the amount highlighted. These TRD's are small compact areo dense baits not airy like say shad raps

Wow...that's a moonshot

Roger

rippin-lips reply :

offsidewing reply :

Yes you can and there is nothing wrong with it. Understand you need a baitcaster with a lightweight spool to effectively cast the light ned rig. Those are pricey. Then you'll want a ML rod with a fast or Xfast tip. Again, that is not an entry level rod in the baitcasting world.

While I don't have any "BFS" enthusiast gear, I do enjoy casting a 1/6oz Ned Rig on baitcasting gear, especially for smallmouth in deep water.

new2BC4bass reply :

So converted to oz. for those of us use to thinking that way, then I should have no trouble casting a 1/16 head and TRD Worm as it weighs a bit more than the 3/16 oz. Shad Raps I can cast a pretty good distance on several rod/reel combos. Always provided the 3/16 oz. Shad Rap in fact weighs 3/16 oz. and not something heavier.

new2BC4bass reply :

rippin-lips posted some weights in the other thread. From what I see, the 1/16 Head and TRD Worm total .219 oz. So a bit over 3/16 oz. Provided a 3/16 oz. Shad Rap does weigh 3/16 oz. and not more, then there is no reason to spend 10 times the cost of a spinning combo to be able to cast that weight with a casting rod. Might cost a bit more than a spinning outfit, but not a lot. I bought a couple refurbished Carbonlites (the gold ones). No problem throwing #5 Shad Raps (3/16 oz.) $65 each. I want to try my Black Max 1600C with that weight. Have a feeling it will also cast that weight. Cost: $33.33 each.

I will tell you up front that there are quite a few guys here that are much better than I am with a baitcast reel. I was an old fart before ever using my first one.

Fishinthefish reply :

1/16th with a medium light built by a custom builder. Shimano core 51. I throw it all day with no problem. You'd be surprised what a ned rig actually weighs once the plastics are on

Mjmj reply :

I want to thank everyone for your replies. I have used spinning rods for my neds. The whole reason I want to use a baitcaster ( even though it's gonna cost slot more) is for the accuracy when I cast. I Don't want to stir up any debates, I'm just way more accurate with a baitcaster!

Jrob78 reply :

On 3/17/2017 at 12:24 AM, new2BC4bass said:

So converted to oz. for those of us use to thinking that way, then I should have no trouble casting a 1/16 head and TRD Worm as it weighs a bit more than the 3/16 oz. Shad Raps I can cast a pretty good distance on several rod/reel combos. Always provided the 3/16 oz. Shad Rap in fact weighs 3/16 oz. and not something heavier.

Should work fine, especially since a ned set up is much more aerodynamic than a Shad Rap.

Lyman X reply :

If I could throw it on a baitcaster, why would I want to? Much better suited to spinning.

QUAKEnSHAKE reply :

Many people choose/have a favorite technique that to them is the most fun. Some buy hundreds of jigs and that is their favorite thing to fish. Others its spinnerbaits and they will throw them all day long. Many go UL only not using over 4# line for their fishing. Along those lines to some anglers their niche is to throw lightweight baits on a baitcaster. To them its a very fun fulfilling challenging way to fish. And going by the premise of using short 25-30 foot casts as stated by Ned shouldnt be an issue with using bc to present a ned rig, the fish dont know spinning from casting. So no legitimate reason for one angler to mock belittle(which has happened on this subject) another on their choice of equipment they choose pay to use.

Angry John reply :

I would look at an alphas or core and a 2 power or ml rod. No need for a z pride or even a zonda spool. Run 6lb line or braid to flouro and go. Brand new your looking 400ish

OCdockskipper reply :

On 3/17/2017 at 8:26 AM, QUAKEnSHAKE said:

...So no legitimate reason for one angler to mock belittle(which has happened on this subject) another on their choice of equipment they choose pay to use.

In case this comment was aimed at my response to the OP, I believe you may have misinterpreted my post. I was neither mocking nor belittling anyone for choosing to use baitcasting gear to fish a Ned rig. Rather, I was giving some extreme examples of situations where a goal could be achieved using a tool not designed for that particular purpose. Just because you can use a tool to do a job doesn't mean that you should. If you want to use that tool, go ahead, but don't delude yourself into thinking it is the best tool for the job just because you are using it.

The OP was obviously interested in feedback, otherwise he never would have asked the question. It makes no difference to me how he chooses to fish a Ned rig, I was just answering his question in a way to make him think. Telling him what he may want to hear (that there is no difference between using spinning versus baitcasting) does him no good and is actually condescending.

tander reply :

Before the Ned rig became popular, I never used spinning equipment. Now I used it for over a year, I am just as accurate with spinning gear as I am with baitcasting gear. It just takes using it regularly.

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