Basspro Rods And Reels 2024
YoungProdigy19 reply :
Does anyone know who makes the rods and reels for bass pro shops? I know quantum makes gander mountains rod and reels. Just wondering, I would appreciate some information. thank you!
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
I believe BPS is cotracting straight with factories now for their reels but they still share design and tooling seen in Pure Fishing products (ABU, Pflueger...)This is NOT to say they are the same reels however. BPS has some good reels and some to stay away from just like everyone else. Post some specific inquiries and I'm sure you'll here from lots of folks on both sides.
steverowbotham reply :
I am a huge fan of the carbonlite rods and the Johnny Morris rods and reels.
JIGFISHERMAN. reply :
You will get people bashing on them, but the simple fact is, because of their buying/selling power in the fishing community, they are able to offer products that are, in most cases, a better bang for your buck than you will find elsewhere.
YoungProdigy19 reply :
Thanks guys. I've just been trying to figure it out. I appreciate it.
S Hovanec reply :
Gander has had many manufacturers of rods and reels over the years.....at one time, St. Croix made a line of rods got them. I had a couple spinning reels about 12 years ago that were BPS branded Shimanos. St. Croix reels were made by Daiwa about 8 years ago. I would assume that like Gander, BPS puts out for bid when they want a new line.
redboat reply :
On 12/26/2011 at 5:25 AM, steverowbotham said:I am a huge fan of ... the Johnny Morris ... reels.
Made by Pflueger. I have two of these, they are really nice reels. I especially like the centrifugal plus mag plus static drags; when I get 'em all set the reels seldom backlash, even using 100% flouro.
Hooligan reply :
On 12/26/2011 at 9:20 AM, shfishinsticks said:I would assume that like Gander, BPS puts out for bid when they want a new line.
They do no such thing. They contract directly with factories; of which there are only a handful in the world that do OEM manufacturing.
On 12/26/2011 at 12:18 PM, redboat said:Made by Pflueger.
At one point, nearly ten years ago, BPS reels were made by Pflueger directly, this is no longer the case. They're made in a factory that handles some of the manufacturing for Pflueger but Bass Pro Shops no longer has to go through Pflueger in terms of quality control. They're the end-all be-all when it comes to finished product, themselves. From testing and calibration tolerances on BPS reels are typically higher than their counterparts from Pflueger. Much, much more could be said in terms of the manufacture, but that's really not what the thread is about. DVT stated correctly that they're direct contract fulfillment now, and rumor has it, they're investigating the possibility of opening their own facility to further increase the quality.
Jason Penn reply :
i have had nothing but good luck with all of the bps reels i have now. i've got 3 of the pro qualifier tournaments and 1 carbonlite and they are good, solid reels. i've been using them for 2 years now.
years ago, i had problems with a couple of the clunn reels but only in the 5:1 ratio, not the 6:1. bps was excellent in taking care of the problems. i called them and they shipped out new reels with a return label in the box for the reels with problems.
i'm really excited about the new carbonlite reels. i will probably get 2 of the 7:1, 1 5:1, and 1 of the 750 spinning reels this year. i hope they hold as well as the others i have.
Senkoman12 reply :
On 12/27/2011 at 10:19 PM, Jason Penn said:i have had nothing but good luck with all of the bps reels i have now. i've got 3 of the pro qualifier tournaments and 1 carbonlite and they are good, solid reels. i've been using them for 2 years now.
years ago, i had problems with a couple of the clunn reels but only in the 5:1 ratio, not the 6:1. bps was excellent in taking care of the problems. i called them and they shipped out new reels with a return label in the box for the reels with problems.
i'm really excited about the new carbonlite reels. i will probably get 2 of the 7:1, 1 5:1, and 1 of the 750 spinning reels this year. i hope they hold as well as the others i have.
i got the clunn sig serire in 6.4:1. what a great reel it is. i got it for $35 from a guy i knew
MagicMoment reply :
I'm not sure about now but I know Biscayne made a lot of their rods. I think they get different labels to make different rods. As far as the reels I havent a clue.
boonhogganbeck reply :
I don't know who makes them, but I really like the pro qualifier baitcaster reels.
Crankenstein Crony reply :
I've never used BPS reels personally, but I know a couple guys who use the Johnny Morris CarbonLite, Johnny Morris Signature Series, and the Johnny Morris Carbon Black Bass reels and they really like those. I'm not sure who makes them, but it sounds like the Johnny Morris reels are pretty solid, quality reels.
nwibass reply :
Carbon Lite rods-lightest rod I have ever held, I know it sounds crazy because theyre only $100, and yes pure fishing does make their reels I was speaking with a store manager, he told me, and also the johnny morris and carbon lite BPS reels are excellent.
Hooligan reply :
On 12/30/2011 at 12:59 PM, nwibass said:Carbon Lite rods-lightest rod I have ever held, I know it sounds crazy because theyre only $100, and yes pure fishing does make their reels I was speaking with a store manager, he told me, and also the johnny morris and carbon lite BPS reels are excellent.
Then the store manager doesn't know what he's talking about. That's simply not the case anymore. Pure fishing DOES NOT make BPS reels. Pure fishing doesn't make any of their own reels, except Swedish made Abu Garcia. Revo reels are made in China, the vast majority of Pflooger reels are made in China. Almost all of BPS reels are made in Korea, with very few exceptions.
NorcalBassin reply :
I've been blown away by the consistent performance of their PQ's... definitely the best sub $100 BC reel that I've ever fished with.
nwibass reply :
Abu is,made in korea which is a division of pure fishing
robdob reply :
On 12/27/2011 at 8:30 AM, Hooligan said:They do no such thing. They contract directly with factories; of which there are only a handful in the world that do OEM manufacturing.
At one point, nearly ten years ago, BPS reels were made by Pflueger directly, this is no longer the case. They're made in a factory that handles some of the manufacturing for Pflueger but Bass Pro Shops no longer has to go through Pflueger in terms of quality control. They're the end-all be-all when it comes to finished product, themselves. From testing and calibration tolerances on BPS reels are typically higher than their counterparts from Pflueger. Much, much more could be said in terms of the manufacture, but that's really not what the thread is about. DVT stated correctly that they're direct contract fulfillment now, and rumor has it, they're investigating the possibility of opening their own facility to further increase the quality.
the new extreme reels for 2012 look an awful lot like a pflueger to me.. i dont know anything about who makes them i'm just pointing out it looks like they are a straight copy of some of the pfluegar baitcasters.... also i have several bps reels and they all seem very good.. pro qualifiers and extremes. maybe not as nice as some of my revo's but they are as good as anything else for the money and i definitely abuse them so they seem to be good reels in my opinion.. can't speak for the rods i have none but i do have some of the feild and stream tec spec's from dicks and they are very good rods for the money.. and i was told by a dicks employee the tec specs are made by quantum and are the same blank used in the kvd signature series
robdob reply :
On 12/30/2011 at 11:22 PM, nwibass said:Abu is,made in korea which is a division of pure fishing
the company i work for "jarden" owns abu garcia... some of the reels are assembled in korea but i can promise you the parts and peices that go into them are not made in korea
McAlpine reply :
The bps carbonlite rod paired with a carbon black JM reel is becoming my main rig anymore. Have 3 of these set ups now. Awesome bang for the buck quality. If you watch for sales this rig will run $170-200. Not bad at all for how light and sensitive the rod is and how smooth the reel is.
Hooligan reply :
On 12/31/2011 at 4:30 AM, robdob said:the new extreme reels for 2012 look an awful lot like a pflueger to me.. i dont know anything about who makes them i'm just pointing out it looks like they are a straight copy of some of the pfluegar baitcasters.... also i have several bps reels and they all seem very good.. pro qualifiers and extremes. maybe not as nice as some of my revo's but they are as good as anything else for the money and i definitely abuse them so they seem to be good reels in my opinion.. can't speak for the rods i have none but i do have some of the feild and stream tec spec's from dicks and they are very good rods for the money.. and i was told by a dicks employee the tec specs are made by quantum and are the same blank used in the kvd signature series
Argue all you want, your speculation is just that. My knowledge is first hand, and I'll net get into it further. The Tec Spec rods aren't made by Quantum, either. It's a completely different strain of graphite...
robdob reply :
On 1/3/2012 at 7:05 AM, Hooligan said:Argue all you want, your speculation is just that. My knowledge is first hand, and I'll net get into it further. The Tec Spec rods aren't made by Quantum, either. It's a completely different strain of graphite...
since your the expert would you care to tell us who makes them then. all other feild and stream rods are made by quantum that is a fact . i'm just stating what a store employee told me.. and if you pick up one of the kvd signature series rods they feel about the same and seem like if they didn't say kvd on them they'd cost about 50 bucks not 80 or 90..... and what exactly do you mean "argue all you want" i wasn't arguing with anyone i'm not sure how you could read what i said and take it as arguing.. i guess some people just look for conflict anywhere they can find it... i'm serious if you know who makes the tec spec then tell us just don't be a jerk for no reason
Hooligan reply :
On 1/3/2012 at 8:14 AM, robdob said:since your the expert would you care to tell us who makes them then. all other feild and stream rods are made by quantum that is a fact . i'm just stating what a store employee told me.. and if you pick up one of the kvd signature series rods they feel about the same and seem like if they didn't say kvd on them they'd cost about 50 bucks not 80 or 90..... and what exactly do you mean "argue all you want" i wasn't arguing with anyone i'm not sure how you could read what i said and take it as arguing.. i guess some people just look for conflict anywhere they can find it... i'm serious if you know who makes the tec spec then tell us just don't be a jerk for no reason
They're made by an OEM manufacturer, as are many of the rods out there... I give up, you can think Quantum makes them all, it's easier that way.
webertime reply :
On 1/3/2012 at 8:52 AM, Hooligan said:They're made by an OEM manufacturer, as are many of the rods out there... I give up, you can think Quantum makes them all, it's easier that way.
Hooligan is right. "Pure" fishing itself does not make any of their own products, they are a design and marketing firm. Their designs are farmed it out to a manufacturer, too add to that EVERYONE with the exception of Shimano and Daiwa does that. And even that may have changed with the recent models. You simply need to come up with spec and contact a Korean, Chinese, or Indonesian manufacturer and BOOM you are a reel or rod company.
So that Tec Spec rod is NOT made by Quantum, because Quantum doesn't make their rods, they may however come from the same plants and maybe even wrapped by the same person, Quantum on Monday, F&S Tuesday, Kister Magnesiums on Friday afternoons (JOKING).
The BPS/Pure thing works like this: Pure designs the Pflueger/Revo Awesomo reel. Then gets a bid from "Dai-Yung"(made up) industries and they sign the contract and start producing the Awesomo. BPS then contracts with Dai-Yung and since Dai Yung already has the tooling and manufacturing set up for the Awesomo, they can base base the BPS "Carbonlust" model off the tooling and parts they already produce. Hence the similarities...
Snowboards, Skis, Cars, MP3 Players, Bicycles, Sportswear, the list goes on and on, all are produced by companies in this manner. When I was in the cycling industry, I'd see the guy riding on a Specialized just spewing hate about Giant Bicycles... This guy was getting insufferable to listen too, so my co-worker showed him a picture of Giant's production facility in China and on the assembly line were rows upon rows of that dude's Specialized. THAT was golden silence...
Packard reply :
On 1/3/2012 at 9:31 AM, webertime said:Hooligan is right. "Pure" fishing itself does not make any of their own products, they are a design and marketing firm. Their designs are farmed it out to a manufacturer, too add to that EVERYONE with the exception of Shimano and Daiwa does that. And even that may have changed with the recent models. You simply need to come up with spec and contact a Korean, Chinese, or Indonesian manufacturer and BOOM you are a reel or rod company.
So that Tec Spec rod is NOT made by Quantum, because Quantum doesn't make their rods, they may however come from the same plants and maybe even wrapped by the same person, Quantum on Monday, F&S Tuesday, Kister Magnesiums on Friday afternoons (JOKING).
The BPS/Pure thing works like this: Pure designs the Pflueger/Revo Awesomo reel. Then gets a bid from "Dai-Yung"(made up) industries and they sign the contract and start producing the Awesomo. BPS then contracts with Dai-Yung and since Dai Yung already has the tooling and manufacturing set up for the Awesomo, they can base base the BPS "Carbonlust" model off the tooling and parts they already produce. Hence the similarities...
Snowboards, Skis, Cars, MP3 Players, Bicycles, Sportswear, the list goes on and on, all are produced by companies in this manner. When I was in the cycling industry, I'd see the guy riding on a Specialized just spewing hate about Giant Bicycles... This guy was getting insufferable to listen too, so my co-worker showed him a picture of Giant's production facility in China and on the assembly line were rows upon rows of that dude's Specialized. THAT was golden silence...
That pretty much sums it up. Very informative post! 
Goose52 reply :
Best summary of how the "real" world works that I've read on this board. Thanks webertime! 
We have some board members that are involved in the tackle industry but there are often limits to what they can say - especially if there are any confidentiality agreements in place about some of the business relationships between the various entities involved in design, development, manufacturing, marketing, distribution, and retailing of these products. From time to time they have contributed a little of the background of this process but that knowledge only lasts as long as the thread is active and is near the front page of the forum...
I always thought it was interesting that the origin of BPS products often comes up, but not with other tackle companies. For instance - Lew's popped up out of nowhere, leveraging off of a well-respected name from several decades ago. They don't have a factory. They don't purchase product from another tackle company. They developed the specs that they wanted in their rods and reels, and the desired price points, and then worked with the OEM company(ies) to develop the product. And so it goes for many of the rod/reel outfits out there...
robdob reply :
On 1/3/2012 at 8:52 AM, Hooligan said:They're made by an OEM manufacturer, as are many of the rods out there... I give up, you can think Quantum makes them all, it's easier that way.
you are correct... and also at the same time basically agreed with me although for your sake i hope you feel vindicated and intelligent by your more informative argument that was obviously your goal to be-little someone else for your own glory............, the blanks come from the same place quantum and tec spec... if you research it there are other rods of different brands that are built upon the exact same blank yet far apart in price. ... most rods use fuji reel seats and handles . regardless of what labels are on them many things come from the same plant. i was a maintenance man at a plastic bag plant and saw first hand that the generic grocery store bags are sometimes identical in chemical make-up and quality to hefty bags double the price they just stuck them in a different box... its common practice in every industry... there are also only 9 flourocarbon extruders in the world currently yet there are 100's of brands and versions of flourocarbon line, many of them the exact same but in different boxes. same with razors and various other things. by the way pure fishing is actually owned by a larger company that manufactures everything from plastic spoons and forks to medical products.
Hooligan reply :
On 1/3/2012 at 12:51 PM, robdob said:you are correct... and also at the same time basically agreed with me although for your sake i hope you feel vindicated and intelligent by your more informative argument that was obviously your goal to be-little someone else for your own glory............, the blanks come from the same place quantum and tec spec... if you research it there are other rods of different brands that are built upon the exact same blank yet far apart in price. ... most rods use fuji reel seats and handles . regardless of what labels are on them many things come from the same plant. i was a maintenance man at a plastic bag plant and saw first hand that the generic grocery store bags are sometimes identical in chemical make-up and quality to hefty bags double the price they just stuck them in a different box... its common practice in every industry... there are also only 9 flourocarbon extruders in the world currently yet there are 100's of brands and versions of flourocarbon line, many of them the exact same but in different boxes. same with razors and various other things. by the way pure fishing is actually owned by a larger company that manufactures everything from plastic spoons and forks to medical products.
You're not telling me things I don't know. It's simply that there's so much misinformation out there that, as long as I've been in the industry in both retail and manufacturing/engineering, people believe what they want to believe. Oh, and, check your info on the Quantum blanks.
By the way, I bought stock in Jarden long before their purchase of Pure FIshing.
robdob reply :
if your positive then i believe you i'm just telling you there are store employee's at dicks telling customers they are the same blanks used in the cheaper kvd rods so they are basically just telling lies to sell a product then. i too own stock in jarden and work for them . sorry to argue really.. but in all honesty i did not argue with anyone before you accused me of arguing and acted as if you were the only one who knows anything about the fishing industry.
Hooligan reply :
On 1/3/2012 at 1:10 PM, robdob said:if your positive then i believe you i'm just telling you there are store employee's at dicks telling customers they are the same blanks used in the cheaper kvd rods so they are basically just telling lies to sell a product then. i too own stock in jarden and work for them . sorry to argue really.. but in all honesty i did not argue with anyone before you accused me of arguing and acted as if you were the only one who knows anything about the fishing industry.
I think it was a different post that got my ire, and you caught the blunt of it. And it wasn't so much an accusation as a statement of argue if you'd like to, but...
All's well, even if it is just in my own little world. 
Diggy reply :
Had a prolite spcial combo, trash...returned it for the carbonlite micro combo 
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