Casting Distance? Shimano Chronarch E Or Lews Tp 2024
shimmy reply :
Was curious if anyone had any personal experience with which reel made longer casts.
Thanks,
Shimmy
kickerfish1 reply :
In most cases given the same lure and rod it is going to boil down to your ability to operate a casting reel with minimal braking assistance from the reel. Based upon my own experience I can cast shimano reels further than Lews reels. I set the spool tension knob fairly light and only leave one centrifugal brake engaged. The rest is done with my thumb. I can cast most lures an impressive distance in normal wind conditions.
MarkH024 reply :
There are way too many variables to consider. Lure weight, line size, reel maintenance, rod choice....
I have a 200E5, pretty much brand new still and it bombs my cranks. It casts as far as I would intend any of my lures to go. I can't speak on the LEWS, I have never tried or owned one.
The better question to ask is what casting distance difference would persuade you to buy one over the other? Are you talking a few feet, or yards? I wouldn't be super concerned with it to be honest. Pick the reel that feels better in your hands or pairs to your rod better.
LgMouthGambler reply :
No comment, lol.
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
Both are quality reels and as stated it comes down to ability and preference. Accuracy is much more important to catch rates than distance casting in 99% of cases. Where raw casting distance is a concern spinning tackle can't be beat.
craww reply :
Cant comment on the lews, but with 15lb line spooled to the lip and a 5/8oz sammy I can dang near spool my E7. And the E holds ALOT of line for the record. It justs keeeeeeeeeps going. I own a dozen other reels and nothing comes close. Its an amazing thing to see in person.
Arv reply :
Don't have the Chronarch or the TP, but I do have a Curado 200G6 and Lews Tournament TS1HL both spooled with Yo Zuri Hybrid 12#. The Curado is on a 7' MH/F Mojo and the TSS is on a 7' MH/F Veritas, arguably similar rods. I'm starting to like my Curado more and more compared to the TSS. Not that the Tournament is a bad reel by any means, I like it a lot, but I do see a little extra casting distance on the Curado and remember the last time I back-lashed on it. I struggle a little bit more to get the Lews dialed in. I don't think you'd be disappointed with either reel though.
shimmy reply :
On 11/2/2012 at 8:59 PM, MarkH024 said:There are way too many variables to consider. Lure weight, line size, reel maintenance, rod choice....
I have a 200E5, pretty much brand new still and it bombs my cranks. It casts as far as I would intend any of my lures to go. I can't speak on the LEWS, I have never tried or owned one.
The better question to ask is what casting distance difference would persuade you to buy one over the other? Are you talking a few feet, or yards? I wouldn't be super concerned with it to be honest. Pick the reel that feels better in your hands or pairs to your rod better.
Casting distance is of the utmost importance when you are in a boat with 4 people and trying to get into spots before someone else and are in the back of the boat. By myself, yeh, not that big of a deal since all reels can pretty much go a good ways. An extra 5-10 yards makes a big difference with the type of fishing i do. Plus crankbait fishing, i'd of guessed you'd advocate for maximum casting distance.
MarkH024 reply :
On 11/3/2012 at 12:31 AM, shimmy said:Casting distance is of the utmost importance when you are in a boat with 4 people and trying to get into spots before someone else and are in the back of the boat. By myself, yeh, not that big of a deal since all reels can pretty much go a good ways. An extra 5-10 yards makes a big difference with the type of fishing i do. Plus crankbait fishing, i'd of guessed you'd advocate for maximum casting distance.
Boy I'd hate to be in that boat. The guy in the back trying to out cast the guy in the front....meanwhile you got 2 other lines in the middle..where are their lines going?
Running depth of the crankbait would determine how much casting distance you need and there are alternatives to getting to those depths.
Regardless, you'll be fine on either purchase. Get it supertuned by DVT or a reel specialist and you'll get the "max" distance the reel will allow without factoring in human control/error. Best of luck.
shimmy reply :
On 11/3/2012 at 12:59 AM, MarkH024 said:Boy I'd hate to be in that boat. The guy in the back trying to out cast the guy in the front....meanwhile you got 2 other lines in the middle..where are their lines going?
you have no idea! Whenever someone catches a 4+ they rotate to the back of the boat and move up accordingly to the front when others catch them as well. It is actually really fun. It's the brothers annual fishing trip that is just one big competition. There are ways to cast towards the front but you have to keep your rod tip low so others can fish and still set the hook. Plus the person in the front dictates where you the boat turns so you have to constantly search for new spots in the back that have not been cast to, hence, needing longer casts to go further back into the reeds or what not. Since it is with family, don't really feel like you are stepping on anyone's toes. It's a blast.
Oh, for the crankbait, especially if you are not targeting shore but long flats off shore, regardless of depth, longer casts cover more ground of being in the strike zone which is the point. Regardless, thanks for the input, some reels cast slightly further than others despite the same line and rod, and was curious if there was a difference with these reels.
aavery2 reply :
I have owned both the reels you mentioned. For me I see it as a wash, they are both very good casting reels, and when properly cleaned and maintained, I see no appreciable difference in their casting ability. On most of the reels I have ever fished, If they were of any quality at all, I could get about 40-45 yards maximum casting distance when using appropriate rod and line.
I hear all the stories of the guys who can spool their reels on a cast, but have never witnessed it in my years of fishing, a 200 series Curado holds over 100 yards of 14 lb test line. I don't see it happening, but would love to see someone prove me wrong.
KVD is one of the longest casters on the Elite circuit, he stated that he can reach a distance of 60 yards in very good conditions. Take it for what it's worth.
shimmy reply :
On 11/3/2012 at 2:47 AM, aavery2 said:I have owned both the reels you mentioned. For me I see it as a wash, they are both very good casting reels, and when properly cleaned and maintained, I see no appreciable difference in their casting ability. On most of the reels I have ever fished, If they were of any quality at all, I could get about 40-45 yards maximum casting distance when using appropriate rod and line.
I hear all the stories of the guys who can spool their reels on a cast, but have never witnessed it in my years of fishing, a 200 series Curado holds over 100 yards of 14 lb test line. I don't see it happening, but would love to see someone prove me wrong.
KVD is one of the longest casters on the Elite circuit, he stated that he can reach a distance of 60 yards in very good conditions. Take it for what it's worth.
interesting, thank you for the response.
J Francho reply :
Whatever reel you choose, with practice you'll get proficient with that reel. Once you get to that level of refinement, you're only limiting factor will be the rod characteristics.
LgMouthGambler reply :
I personally would go for longevity because the difference of casting will be minor of the 2.
BASSHUNTER1961 reply :
On 11/3/2012 at 7:26 AM, LgMouthGambler said:I personally would go for longevity because the difference of casting will be minor of the 2.
Could you please expound on your comment LMG? Which of the two reels would prove to be more durable?
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
On 11/3/2012 at 2:47 AM, aavery2 said:KVD is one of the longest casters on the Elite circuit, he stated that he can reach a distance of 60 yards in very good conditions. Take it for what it's worth.
Another pro Skeet Reese has a crankbait casting distance video. Couple of set-ups and 8' poles 1oz cranks 12# line 50-55yds
video here
http://www.advancedangler.com/featurearticle.asp?Selectvalue=AA%20Tech%20Video%20-%20Crankbait%20Casting%20Tests
shimmy reply :
On 11/3/2012 at 8:55 AM, BASSHUNTER1961 said:Could you please expound on your comment LMG? Which of the two reels would prove to be more durable?
He's a shimano fan so his money is on the Chronarch which has proven the test of time, Lews TP, not quite, but haven't heard any problems since they have come out. So, who knows.
LgMouthGambler reply :
I will tell you what, when you go to the store to look at these 2 reels together, i want you to take a real close look at these things. Take the sideplates off, and also note how they come apart, and how easy one is to do than the other. Then I want you to take a look at the way the brakes are done. Take a look at which reel has the essentials, and which reel has maybe too much. Also take a look at how easy one is to adjust vs the other. Also take a look at which company has designed and built all their reels on the same platform, as to show you what is a tried and trusted design. Thats all Im sayingOn 11/3/2012 at 1:35 PM, shimmy said:He's a shimano fan so his money is on the Chronarch which has proven the test of time, Lews TP, not quite, but haven't heard any problems since they have come out. So, who knows.
aavery2 reply :
I'm curious LMG, what do you mean by built on the same platform? The G is entirely different from the E, the true Chronarch, Core and Calais, are different from the Citica and Curado. What about the Bantam line of reels? Not sure platform is what you meant, or maybe we use the word to describe different things,
LgMouthGambler reply :
What I mean is that all the Es were the same platform, little differences. Gs same platform, little differences. The same thing with the Bantam Curado and Bantam Citica. Thats the good thing about Shimano, they use the same style for each series, and they just have little differences in the parts material or bearing count. When it comes doen to it though, they all have cent brakes and spool tension, which is the most simple and dependable design. Also, the cent brake design is not some spring loaded plastic tabs that dont hold up very long, and you dont have to replace the whole mechanism, just the caps. Oh yeah, let us not forget that Shimano supplies you with extra caps, oil, and the tool. Im not considering the "true" Chronarch, Core, or Calais, as those are very high end expensive reels that are rediculously overpriced. If you have the money to spend, then by all means they are the bees-neez, but lets get real, most people are not going to fork that dough. I now I wont anytime soon, due to not having any problems with the newer designed Es and Gs.
aavery2 reply :
On 11/4/2012 at 2:46 AM, LgMouthGambler said:What I mean is that all the Es were the same platform, little differences. Gs same platform, little differences. The same thing with the Bantam Curado and Bantam Citica. Thats the good thing about Shimano, they use the same style for each series, and they just have little differences in the parts material or bearing count. When it comes doen to it though, they all have cent brakes and spool tension, which is the most simple and dependable design. Also, the cent brake design is not some spring loaded plastic tabs that dont hold up very long, and you dont have to replace the whole mechanism, just the caps. Oh yeah, let us not forget that Shimano supplies you with extra caps, oil, and the tool. Im not considering the "true" Chronarch, Core, or Calais, as those are very high end expensive reels that are rediculously overpriced. If you have the money to spend, then by all means they are the bees-neez, but lets get real, most people are not going to fork that dough. I now I wont anytime soon, due to not having any problems with the newer designed Es and Gs.
Good explanation of your meaning, so in your opinion which mfg. does not do the same. I'm sure your aware that over the years Shimano has used many different brakeing systems, SVS, 4 X 4 SVS, Magtrack, and they still currently use a digital controlled braking system, that has even been installed on the JDM version of the Curado. While centrifugal brakes are good braking system, they do not perform the best in all situations, IMHO, Daiwa has the most advanced and widely adapable brakeing system with their magforce Z, then I would give the edge to IVCB braking over straight centrifugal.
LgMouthGambler reply :
Again, talking about the Es and Gs due they are the modern ones that people would be currently purchasing. If you like Daiwas better, good for you. I get it, you are the master of all that is fishing.On 11/4/2012 at 3:38 AM, aavery2 said:Good explanation of your meaning, so in your opinion which mfg. does not do the same. I'm sure your aware that over the years Shimano has used many different brakeing systems, SVS, 4 X 4 SVS, Magtrack, and they still currently use a digital controlled braking system, that has even been installed on the JDM version of the Curado. While centrifugal brakes are good braking system, they do not perform the best in all situations, IMHO, Daiwa has the most advanced and widely adapable brakeing system with their magforce Z, then I would give the edge to IVCB braking over straight centrifugal.
BASSHUNTER1961 reply :
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aavery2 reply :
On 11/4/2012 at 5:04 AM, LgMouthGambler said:Again, talking about the Es and Gs due they are the modern ones that people would be currently purchasing. If you like Daiwas better, good for you. I get it, you are the master of all that is fishing.
Heck no, just more knowledgeable than you. Surely your aware that the E and G don't even share the same platform.
Not_Here reply :
On 11/4/2012 at 5:04 AM, LgMouthGambler said:I get it, you are the master of all that is fishing.
actually sounds more like yourself...dude you sit & flap your gums about shimano this, shimano that and think YOU know all but i've seen how you learn on the fly from what so & so said then boom your parroting the same verbage right after...and have been called out on things you thought you knew but were blatantly wrong...
probably burns your pistons that someone is more versed, has more experience and simply knows more than you on the product,..thats why you jump on the defensive so quick...
just put a d@mn sock in it already man...just being honest, chill out with your shiMANo crap...
BASSHUNTER1961 reply :
This thread will be over very shortly.... 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 Here comes Irene...... LOL.
FillupD reply :
I'm with aavery2 on the Daiwa wagon. The quick start-up and the brake release of a Magforce Z or Magforce V can'y be beat. I have reels with both and really like them, of course I am a Daiwa fan no doubt. Lets put a tuned zillion in the mix with magforce Z, Oh-Oh Shimano and Lew's. You lose.
I also have a Curado 51E and a 201E7 (with BOCA OS#7) and they cast very well, I can't imagine the Lews being night and day different in casting ability. The Lew's Tournament Pro deserves a look at IMO and I'm curious to handle the reel to see how it performs. I'll have to agree with post above, the Shimano's are built well (as good as the older ones??) but I'm not crazy about sliding the side plate out of the way to adjust braking; although I understand it is kind of rare after you get your reel dialed in.
I picked up one of the new 51 Chronarchs and put a Core mg handle & knobs on it. I will say, that that is probably one of the smoothest (reeling) reels I have ever had. It was buttery smooth and almost too smooth, kind of felt plasticy, cheaper than the older 51E Curado. I see why Shimano has had a succsessful exceptance to their most recent reel changes, They are still an "OK" reel.
Off the casting distance debate, Here is an interesting article that will tell you just about everything you wanted to know about brakes and their attributs available on several manufacturers of reels. http://www.japantackle.com/Topics/brake_system.htm
LgMouthGambler reply :
Your reading comprehension sucks.On 11/4/2012 at 6:55 AM, aavery2 said:Heck no, just more knowledgeable than you. Surely your aware that the E and G don't even share the same platform.
LgMouthGambler reply :
You got it, Im a fraud. I jump on bandwagons. I know Shimanos history and different reels. Your reading comprehension sucks too since I was trying to keep the topic up to date with current models. Cry all you want, your anger is my amusement.On 11/4/2012 at 7:05 AM, Frog Turds said:actually sounds more like yourself...dude you sit & flap your gums about shimano this, shimano that and think YOU know all but i've seen how you learn on the fly from what so & so said then boom your parroting the same verbage right after...and have been called out on things you thought you knew but were blatantly wrong...
probably burns your pistons that someone is more versed, has more experience and simply knows more than you on the product,..thats why you jump on the defensive so quick...
just put a d@mn sock in it already man...just being honest, chill out with your shiMANo crap...
aavery2 reply :
On 11/4/2012 at 7:30 AM, LgMouthGambler said:Your reading comprehension sucks.
Seriously, that's all you got.
I believe these were you exact words, maybe it's not my comprehension, but your ability to articulate your thoughts clearly.
"Also take a look at which company has designed and built all their reels on the same platform, as to show you what is a tried and trusted design. Thats all Im saying"
Long Mike reply :
Too many grown men acting like kids.
Good Night Irene.
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