some of you guys have accused me of working for berkley because of my love for fireline braid over the past 2 years.i still think it's a great braid but i now have found one i feel is better.sufix 832 imho is a superior in some respects.i will now have to work for sufix.
fireline braid in 30 lb and higher is still the smoothest braid out there.the suffix is slightly rougher but it doesn't make any more noise.it's quiet even on recoils.
the thing i really like about the suffix is it definately casts furthur and it is definately more sensitive.i didn't think you could get any more sensitivity but because this line slowly sinks it goes straighter to the bait.i can feel things with this line that i didn't feel with other braids.the line also does not digg in and is harder to backlash.
as i said the line slowly sinks.it does not sink fast enough to ruin a topwater baits action.this means you can use it for either application.
it does lose it's color but all braids do.
Something I finally agree with you on...LOL
I'm really liking the sufix 832 myself.
It didn't pass the fingernail test for me. That one Teflon thread among the 7 Dyneema threads does all that as advertized? No thanks.
Oh god, now that picture is going to be seen around here alot more.
On 5/23/2011 at 8:51 AM, Fat-G said:Oh god, now that picture is going to be seen around here alot more.
LOL! That's the first thing that I thought, too.
roflmao!!!
Traitor!
I just bought into the other braid!
Oh well...Thanks for the post and advice
for the rest of the guys.
Dodgeguy is a straight shooter and a valuable
resource. He is well respected and a true asset
to this forum.
Thanks for the update!
-Kent
Welcome to the dark side ...
Wasn't a fan of it myself. Glad it seems to be working out for you, Dodge.
No more Fireline pictures for a while!
Keeping an open mind is what it's all about in looking for "the best" of anything.
Sticking with my out dated Power Pro, I could pick up the Titanic with 20# test, and feel a bluegill whizzing on it.
yup, it's one of the best right now. quite and smooth on the retrieve!
My 832 turned my hand green while fishing. All braids might bleed color, but that 832 is a gusher.
Agreed about the excessive color bleeding with the Suffix. I have some 20# spooled up on my spinning set up. I have only used it 3 or 4 times and it is nearly white. This has not happened to me with Fireline braid even after much more time on the water.
I just bought some Fireline, $20 for 300 yds! Not bad, and it's a lot rounder than PowerPro.
I just know he's waiting for it, so here it is...I'll stick with my Samurai braid. At least the fireline pic's will be gone..
Hopefully..
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you work for PowerPro before Berkley?
Hey Dodge, can I call you 'Flipflop' from now on :D
Roger
On 5/24/2011 at 12:44 PM, RoLo said:Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you work for PowerPro before Berkley?
Hey Dodge, can I call you 'Flipflop' from now on :D
Roger
used power pro for years.call me willing to admit when something is better.the color bleed on the 832 is worse than the bleed on fireline.
Daiwa Samurai bleeds so bad, it can turn your new rod cork handle into patina green.
Like most anglers, my first experience with braided line was PowerPro, a company I've never heard of before that.
I was immediately hooked, but it took me a while to realize that it wasn't PowerPro that I loved, it was polyethylene braid.
To make a long story short, I moved up to Fireline Tracer Braid produced by the same company that makes Trilene XL,
a line I used happily for about 50 years (great mono). Today I use 30-lb Fireline Braid for just about everything.
Thirty-pound Fireline (not all line-tests) is 8-strand braid, very round, very smooth, and there's no "line-burrowing"...never.
I use spinning gear and find 'line-twist to be nonexistent while 'bunch knots' are very rare (count them on 1 hand for the season)
If you wish you can add a fluoro leader to the braided main line, but in bright sunlight the fluoro leader
will likely be easier to see than the braid (embedded message there). To help the angler see his braided line,
Berkley produces "Tracer" braid which is alternately colored green-and-gold every couple feet. All braided lines fade over time,
but the biggest pain by far is that all braids wrap around anything and everything they contact,
but I suppose that comes with the territory. On the other hand, we've used a few thousand yards of Fireline Tracer Braid,
and I have no idea what anglers mean by "bleeding color".
Roger
On 5/24/2011 at 9:30 PM, baluga said:Daiwa Samurai bleeds so bad, it can turn your new rod cork handle into patina green.
You gotta be kidding..None of mine did..
On 5/25/2011 at 10:37 AM, Hammer 4 said:You gotta be kidding..None of mine did..
good for you.. just look at my brand new rod.. it already looks like 5 year old rod afer using Daiwa Samurai on one weekend. Even my nails got the green patina pattern.
A Magic Eraser will get rid of the green.
Then seal it with U-40 Cork Sealer, and your cork will look new forever.
On 5/24/2011 at 6:05 PM, dodgeguy said:used power pro for years.call me willing to admit when something is better.the color bleed on the 832 is worse than the bleed on fireline.
Actually, dodgeguy was big on Sufix Performance Braid a few years back before he went to Fireline. Maybe PowerPro came before that. I tried out the Sufix Performance Braid at the time, based on his suggestion, and I am still using it.
Wow! I put my Fireline on one combo, feels great. Casts better than PowerPro, hope it holds the color!
On 5/26/2011 at 4:16 AM, Fat-G said:Wow! I put my Fireline on one combo, feels great. Casts better than PowerPro, hope it holds the color!
No colored superline can remain the factory supplied color. The fibers don't absord coloring and they just have a surface coating. Some lines maintain their colors longer than others.
On 5/26/2011 at 5:11 AM, Wayne P. said:No colored superline can remain the factory supplied color. The fibers don't absord coloring and they just have a surface coating. Some lines maintain their colors longer than others.
but the fireline braid does hold color better than others i've used.
I think it's safe to say that I hold PP in very high regards. There is nothing stronger or tougher. However, 832 is second in those two categories and easily ahead in most others. It has a very long break in time but when it does it's a really good line. I'm not crazy about it in the bigger sizes, but I really like the 10#. Reliability and sensitivity are much more of a concern to me than comforts like being quieter and smoother. So far, 832 is allowing me to enjoy the best of both worlds.
Dodge- That's the kind of credible feedback I look for. Although, I don't agree with you sometimes, I still hold your opinion in high regard. Great post. Keeping it real up in Poughkeepsie. I also love the open-minded loyalty.
I'm still working through my stockpile of Stren Super Braid I got for $4.00 a spool at walmart when it was discontinued. Maybe by the time I'm done with that, the 832 will be discontinued too and I'll get a bunch of it on clearance while Dodgeguy is calling it obsolete and touting the latest and greatest best braid.
Fish in the crystal clear waters of Maine...Have used 14lb Fireline Crystal for years and now also using the Braid....Casts very well very sensitive...Hey if it works why switch right ????....I also would have to add that any line will feel different casting and sensitivity wise depending on what you are throwing on....Confidence and knowledge is what catches bass,,,,Not the rod,,reel or line....Throw what you are confident in ...You wil catch more fish...
I have 8-10 or so 300yd spools of the Fireline that I snagged when Dick's had it for $11 or under. I won't be trying a different braid for at least a decade considering how long it lasts for me.