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Kyrazzy7 reply :
ok i got a question. my reel says 120yrds/12lb. so can i put all 150yrds of 40lb braid (10lb dia) or is that too much line on the reel? also is it true that the less line you have on the shorter you will cast. and im talking half the spool being filled. thanks!
JeziHogg reply :
Think about this, will you really need 150 yrds? fill like 1/3 of it with a cheap mono, leaving you with about 100 yrds of braid. As for half full and casting, if its a baitcaster, then yes. Spinning reel not 100% sure, but I wouldn't think so.
Penguino reply :
Like JeziHogg said, you only actually need 75 yards of braid or so for bass. The rest you can fill with cheap 12lb mono. Also, under-filling will definitely reduce casting distance, but overfilling can actually be worse, as it causes huge problems. A good rule of thumb would be to follow the 1/8 inch rule when spooling line on.
einscodek reply :
think about it you want the spool nearly filled cause at the top end of the spool the diameter means more line per rotation of the shaft
so more line goes out with each rotation initially
and yes as the other guys said you dont need more than 75 yds on the spool to be braid .. can use filler
..I dont know many dudes who can cast braid even 50 yards
Kyrazzy7 reply :
On 6/29/2015 at 8:43 AM, JeziHogg said:Think about this, will you really need 150 yrds? fill like 1/3 of it with a cheap mono, leaving you with about 100 yrds of braid. As for half full and casting, if its a baitcaster, then yes. Spinning reel not 100% sure, but I wouldn't think so.
How do I spoil them together? Just any ol knot?
Kyrazzy7 reply :
And just to clarify I should fill it almost full?
John G reply :
I use a Uni to Uni knot from most line to line connections and your spool should have some sort of indicator on it telling you when to stop filling the line. If not, stop about an 1/8" before the edge of the spool.
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
Do you use a leader or run straight braid to lure?
Kyrazzy7 reply :
On 6/29/2015 at 11:27 AM, QUAKEnSHAKE said:Do you use a leader or run straight braid to lure?
I run straight braid to lure. Is that bad? I'm usually just fishing frogs and other top water lures
Kyrazzy7 reply :
Which of these two braids is better? I have the one on the left but is there any advantages of the right braid??
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
On 6/29/2015 at 11:34 AM, Kyrazzy7 said:I run straight braid to lure. Is that bad? I'm usually just fishing frogs and other top water lures
I dont think its bad at all. I do very well in clear waters doing it.
Because of this though Ill differ with the others about only using 75 yards per spool.
It would actually cost less overall filling spool full of braid and then as it gets used start adding backing of mono to bring back to capacity.
A frog can be tossed rather far and once you get to the connection knot(weak point) on a cast that is when to get rid of what is left and put new line. So if you use just a top shot you will be losing say 100'+ of line, if you do this 2 times per spool you lose a total of 200'. Now if you use just straight braid to fill the spool you after time will only lose 100' saving100' of line.
Some people say/think a full spool of braid casts better than when using mono to fill the spool.
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
On 6/29/2015 at 11:35 AM, Kyrazzy7 said:Which of these two braids is better? I have the one on the left but is there any advantages of the right braid??
PPS8S going to be much quieter and smoother other than that will cost more.
Kyrazzy7 reply :
On 6/29/2015 at 11:59 AM, QUAKEnSHAKE said:PPS8S going to be much quieter and smoother other than that will cost more.
Smoother as in better casting? Do you think it's worth the 10$+ more dollars it costs?
And I've always liked using just braid. I grew up in Alaska and always used braid while fishing halibut and salmon.
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
Ive not used 40# in these products but I have used 10-15-20# in both. Other than noise level not really any difference to me casting difference is negligible. Once my PP runs out though dont think Ill ever buy any more just really prefer 8 carrier/strand lines now. Me I just wait til s8s goes on sale for $15 or so.
Kyrazzy7 reply :
Hmm. Ok. Thanks!
Kyrazzy7 reply :
I think I'll try it out an see how it is. An ill prob fill the spool just about full
hawkoath reply :
On 6/29/2015 at 10:19 AM, Kyrazzy7 said:How do I spoil them together? Just any ol knot?
Albright knot.
hawkoath reply :
On 6/29/2015 at 11:34 AM, Kyrazzy7 said:I run straight braid to lure. Is that bad? I'm usually just fishing frogs and other top water lures
I would run straight braid to a frog because if I'm throwing them they are usually going to be on top of weeds/lilies or very close to them and the bass can get into vegetation and weeds pretty quickly. Having the frog tied to straight braid would lessen the chance of losing an expensive frog. Other top water lures I would probably go with a fluorocarbon leader as the water in WA would be what is considered clear or very clear in other parts of the country and I feel it does help in getting bites.
Kyrazzy7 reply :
On 6/29/2015 at 2:29 PM, hawkoath said:I would run straight braid to a frog because if I'm throwing them they are usually going to be on top of weeds/lilies or very close to them and the bass can get into vegetation and weeds pretty quickly. Having the frog tied to straight braid would lessen the chance of losing an expensive frog. Other top water lures I would probably go with a fluorocarbon leader as the water in WA would be what is considered clear or very clear in other parts of the country and I feel it does help in getting bites.
Ok. Yea I haven't been fishing bass to long so I appreciate the knowledge. Here in eastern wa the water I'm fishing is brown almost muddy looking. I've only caught LMB but I guess the Columbia river is one of the best smallmouth fisheries in the nation.
Kyrazzy7 reply :
On 6/29/2015 at 11:59 AM, QUAKEnSHAKE said:PPS8S going to be much quieter and smoother other than that will cost more.
Is this too much line on the spool..
Tim Kelly reply :
Looks about right, you could probably squeeze a bit more on if you wanted to, but it should be easy to control with the line level you have at the moment.
John G reply :
On 6/30/2015 at 2:12 PM, Kyrazzy7 said:Is this too much line on the spool..
It's not enough line IMHO. Where the Orange and black meet is your indicator to stop filling. Also, your braid looks really loose. Braid should be put on under a very decent amount of tension or it could cause casting problems later. What I would do if that were my reel is I would find a large field or large parking lot and I would tie the loose end of the braid to a tree, fence post, light pole etc and walk it out till I reach the end and then reel in under my drag pressure.
Don't listen to the naysayers that say it does not matter how tight braid is spooled on a reel because it will get loose anyway after the first cast. The casting length will not be as tight after the first time but most everything under it will stay really tight. Your braid looks ridiculously loose and needs to be out on tighter.
Kyrazzy7 reply :
On 6/30/2015 at 2:57 PM, John G said:It's not enough line IMHO. Where the Orange and black meet is your indicator to stop filling. Also, your braid looks really loose. Braid should be put on under a very decent amount of tension or it could cause casting problems later. What I would do if that were my reel is I would find a large field or large parking lot and I would tie the loose end of the braid to a tree, fence post, light pole etc and walk it out till I reach the end and then reel in under my drag pressure.
Don't listen to the naysayers that say it does not matter how tight braid is spooled on a reel because it will get loose anyway after the first cast. The casting length will not be as tight after the first time but most everything under it will stay really tight. Your braid looks ridiculously loose and needs to be out on tighter.
Really? I felt like I put it on too tight. If I put it on as tight as your saying won't it start to dig into itself?
John G reply :
On 6/30/2015 at 10:26 PM, Kyrazzy7 said:Really? I felt like I put it on too tight. If I put it on as tight as your saying won't it start to dig into itself?
No it won't.
This braid was put on very tight.
Kyrazzy7 reply :
On 6/30/2015 at 11:25 PM, John G said:No it won't.
This braid was put on very tight.
Ok I'll try doing that parking lot thing. Should I tighten the drag all the way when I do it?
John G reply :
On 7/1/2015 at 3:42 AM, Kyrazzy7 said:Ok I'll try doing that parking lot thing. Should I tighten the drag all the way when I do it?
Just tighten enough so that the spool does not slip.
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
I agree 100% with John G get the braid on TIGHT. 1st thing that came to my mind when saw the pics was line too loose.
The first pic spool looks fuller than the 3rd pic is it just the angle of the photo? The 3rd pic looks too low needs more line. If thats a full 150yd spool of line you can add mono line to fill it under the braid.
Kyrazzy7 reply :
On 7/1/2015 at 7:45 AM, QUAKEnSHAKE said:I agree 100% with John G get the braid on TIGHT. 1st thing that came to my mind when saw the pics was line too loose.
The first pic spool looks fuller than the 3rd pic is it just the angle of the photo? The 3rd pic looks too low needs more line. If thats a full 150yd spool of line you can add mono line to fill it under the braid.
Yea it's different angles. I tried to follow 1/8 inch rule. But that's still not enough huh. And I will tighten it.
Kyrazzy7 reply :
Ok does this look any better? I hooked my frog to my back pack and walked out until I was at the end of my spool. With the rod tip up and bent as if I had a fish and with the star drag tightened I reeled all the way up.On 6/30/2015 at 11:25 PM, John G said:No it won't.
This braid was put on very tight.
John G reply :
That angle looks good.
Kyrazzy7 reply :
On 7/1/2015 at 12:16 PM, John G said:That angle looks good.
Ok. Thanks for the help!
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