Look all rod manufacturers try to make the most bang for their buck like everything else, so what I am in search of is tried and tested advice. I have fished All Star, and Falcon rods. I like them both however All star eyelets are not dependable, and Falcon is OK, so who has a rod or brand that they feel is the most dependable and reliable to the everyday fisher??
Shimano.
Lifetime warranties on all their rods, from cheapest to most expensive. No matter if it's a line guide, handle, or rod itself.....it's covered. Prices from $40 to who knows where so something for everybody including the everyday fisherman.
ok, not familiar with them, so for a bass fishing Carolina, jigging, and spinner, and cranking use which one do you suggest?? I know the length and all that but models is what I am asking?
1. How much are you willing to spend?
2. What baits/techniques will the rod be for?
I do a lot of Carolina and cranking.
Spend as cheap of $100 and want to spend no more than 170 to 180
Look at the Compre and Crucial models. I prefer Crucials but the Compre are also excellent for their price.
Look at Phoenix rods also.
QuoteLook at Phoenix rods also.
Do they make rods under $180?
100-170 range...
Powell is my preference.
200-300 range
Kistler is my preference
+1 for the Crucial line of rods
I enjoy fishing Powell rods.
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If you're on a budget the shimano rods are a great value type of rod, especially for spinning reels. BPS and Cabelas also have decent quality rods in the 40 to 80 dollar range. I have never fished a c rig but I would think a 7ft M rod of your choice would work.
Most people fish heavy weights on their carolina rigs so I would go with at least a MH. I've heard a lot of good reviews about Shimano's rods (most of their rods are good for their price ranges but they obviously get better from the low end cheap stuff all the way up to the Crucials and Cumaras). The Crucials are in your price range so you might want to check them out but there are a lot of companies to choose from that make good rods in that range. I would look at Kistler Magnesiums, Powells, and St Croix Avids
QuoteLook all rod manufacturers try to make the most bang for their buck like everything else, so what I am in search of is tried and tested advice. I have fished All Star, and Falcon rods. I like them both however All star eyelets are not dependable, and Falcon is OK, so who has a rod or brand that they feel is the most dependable and reliable to the everyday fisher??
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All Star doesn't make their eyelets. Most manufacturers don't. They're usually made by Fuji, Hardloy or some others. Unless you're getting abusive with your rods, I've had no problems with All Star guides at all.
Just what kind of problem have you had with them?
You lost me when you said Falcons are just ok. If Falcons are not good enough, and you don't want to spend a good amount of money then I don't know what to tell you. I guess look at the Airrus Copperhead or some guys on here really like Powell.
You're getting all kinds of suggestions it seems.
Since I was vague with my first post then I'll clarify some. Like some others said who also said Shimano, either the Compre or the
Crucial would be good choices. I personally use the Compre as that is my first venture into owning better rods and I didn't want to go beyond $100 per stick. Having looked at the Crucial as well though, they seem to be worth every bit the other $50 that they cost over and above the Compre ($100 vs. $150). That is, as far as I'm able to tell in the store.
I was basing my assumption on how light weight they felt and therefore how much more sensitive it might be as a result. I thought the Compre was one of the lightest rods I had ever held, and it is, but the Crucial was all that much better, I just couldn't afford to pay that out and still own 5 of them. Since I wanted them all to be the same I went with the Compre cause $500 beats $750.......and I'm on a budget! ;D
You'll not go wrong with either one of these though. They really are great rods and with a lifetime warranty you don't have to worry about things going wrong and your investment going south. They wouldn't back them with that kind of warranty if they weren't worth the risk. You do have to pay $15 normally when something does fail though, to cover shipping the rod back, BUT you don't ship it back and wait on a new one, you just go to the store you purchased it from, give it to the dealer, pay $15 to cover his shipping costs, and walk out of the store with a brand new rod in hand. No waiting to get a new one, it's right now.
QuoteLook all rod manufacturers try to make the most bang for their buck like everything else, so what I am in search of is tried and tested advice. I have fished All Star, and Falcon rods. I like them both however All star eyelets are not dependable, and Falcon is OK, so who has a rod or brand that they feel is the most dependable and reliable to the everyday fisher??
If you're in the Atlanta area I'll cut you a deal on a very lightly used 6'10" MH/XF BPS Johnny Morris Signature Series 'Carolina Rig' rod. They come with Fuji's titanium-framed SiC guides, and you'd be hard-pressed to find a lighter or more durable guide at any price.
http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10151_-1_10001_98025_100002006_100000000_100002000_100-2-6
The tips have broke twice about 1 inch to 2 inch down from top of rod, and the first and 3 eyelet have came off the ring.
About the Falcon, I like them just wanted to make sure that I was getting the best rod I could for the money.
I am interested very much in the Kistler rods any more input on them
In your price range, I would look at Kistler's Magnesium series. They are very good rods for the money.
QuoteThe tips have broke twice about 1 inch to 2 inch down from top of rod, and the first and 3 eyelet have came off the ring.About the Falcon, I like them just wanted to make sure that I was getting the best rod I could for the money.
I am interested very much in the Kistler rods any more input on them
Which model All Star were you using? I've owned them for years and never had a one break unless I stepped on it or broke it off in a door.
Shimano Compre.
FANTASTIC rod for $100.00.
the all star asr
are you hooking your lure on an eyelet? when you do is there a lot of bend in the rod while you store it? sounds to me like like there is something off to have that bad of luck.
and remember a more expensive rod doesn't mean it will be unbreakable. quite the opposite actually, the better a rod the more sensitive and light weight it becomes which usually translates into a more brittle rod.
OK with that when does the price you pay out weigh the longevity and performance you get?
QuoteOK with that when does the price you pay out weigh the longevity and performance you get?
it doesn't. Those nicer rods also have warranties.
every rod brand is a little different. for me my st. croix avids have taken everything i have dished out. my oldest is 7 years old. for $170 i would say that is a fair price range to balance sensitivity and longevity.
I like st croix premiers...about $100.
Also the BPS Extreme poles are pretty good too.
Thinking of a St Croix Mojo rod next, or a carrot stick (they're so darn ugly).
QuoteI like st croix premiers...about $100.Also the BPS Extreme poles are pretty good too.
Thinking of a St Croix Mojo rod next, or a carrot stick (they're so darn ugly).
x2 on the uglyness of the e21. That's the ONLY reason I got rid of mine. But past the bad looks those rods fish like a dream, IMO.
i recomend the shimano rods too for the money.
the compre and esp the crucial.
my "best" (most expensive) rig is my crucial mh and quantum tour edition 7.1.... and this is my everyday go to caralina rod. it will also do jigs and topwaters. love it.
I would recommend Phenix rods but they are over $180, except for their X10 crankbait rod ($180) great review from Tackltour.com
If durability is your main concern.... get a rod with a lifetime warranty. Crucials,Compre,Avids, Loomis IMX etc all have them. You pay a bit more, but have a lighter more sensitive rod that you will enjoy more and piece of mind for years down the road. To me it's a better value in the long run vs a 50 dollar rod with say a 1yr waranty. But to each his own.. depends on your idea of value. Some guys are quite satisfied with Ugly Stick Lite or less expensive rods and have them for years. Once I started using St. Croix or Loomis I felt I wanted that type of rod from then on. I have way too many 49 Dollar bargain rods collecting dust. I have Crucials that I like too. All Star is a good rod and you can get a lifetime warranty with a Compre for about 100 bucks.