So, I am still looking around for the best $100 rod I can find and stick with those rods. It looks like someone threw up on my deck with all of the different companies I have lol. After all this time I kind of forgot to take a look at Shimano's rods. I was wondering what you guys think of these in terms of the usual sensitivity, quality, response, etc. If you could compare them to other rods like the ***, Veritas, etc. I have also have not got the chance to feel a Duckett Ghost yet... That could change the game for me.
Thanks!
Also weight and if it is tip heavy, is kind of big for me.
I have 2 Shimano rods, a Clarus and a Crucial.....excellent rods in my opinion.
I've loved these rods, they're sensitive, and not just in my hand. I've had a couple of friends try them out and they all say the same, that it's very sensitive. They don't seem to be any heavier than other rods I have, the Crucial is a bit lighter than my Clarus.
Additionally, they have a lifetime warranty, which in my book is great because I know my penchant for breaking things AFTER the warranty is over
As for being tip heavy, I don't notice that they are. I think my reels balance it out nicely, but if you could get to a Bass Pro, Cabelas, or any other store that has them you could try your reels on one to see how it balances. But out of the box it does feel a bit forward heavy, until the reel's on.
I dont know about the Compre, but even the Crucial seemed tip heavy to me when I handled it.
I have a Compre 6'6"mh crankbait casting rod. The previous edition,with cork handle,it is one of my favorites.100 bucks and a life time warranty is hard to beat.sesnsitive,good backbone,blah blah.Doesn't matter what I think,make a decision and buy it or not.
I've got two cork Compres, but my buddy picked up a 6'8" spinning rod of the new model, and yes, it is a bit more tip-heavy than the cork handled models. I've handled it, very nice feel, but I'm the opposite of you, I don't like tip-heavy.
Comparing the Compre, Veritas, in-store, they were pretty even, at least the ones I handled. Might give the tip-heavy nod to the Compre between the two. But it's been a while since I've had them in my hands. I always compare rods when I hit the local BPS. Habit.
But my tip-heavy may not be another person's tip-heavy. So your opinion may vary. Get your hands on them if you can, feel the weight as you close your eyes...put your reel(s) on them if you can to get the balance.
On 1/15/2014 at 10:39 PM, DarrenM said:I've got two cork Compres, but my buddy picked up a 6'8" spinning rod of the new model, and yes, it is a bit more tip-heavy than the cork handled models. I've handled it, very nice feel, but I'm the opposite of you, I don't like tip-heavy.
Comparing the Compre, Veritas, in-store, they were pretty even, at least the ones I handled. Might give the tip-heavy nod to the Compre between the two. But it's been a while since I've had them in my hands. I always compare rods when I hit the local BPS. Habit.
But my tip-heavy may not be another person's tip-heavy. So your opinion may vary. Get your hands on them if you can, feel the weight as you close your eyes...put your reel(s) on them if you can to get the balance.
Yes......this.
It's pretty much preferential.....I like a heavy tip. I don't feel like I have as much trouble casting since the heaviness results in inertia for the forward part of the cast. But as you know....it's up to you.
Try one out, it'll make your mind up.
I just got a Clarus and paired it up with a Sahara 3000. Great combo and ended up pulling in my first two bass of 2014 yesterday afternoon. The tip has some nice flex to it and I can sling a senko type bait a country mile. Sensitivity was brilliant on the two fish I caught yesterday as I felt the bite all the way through the rod.
Please elaborate on tip heavy,Is this with a 6oz.reel,8oz.,10oz.?I don't understand.Who else has a 100 dollar rod with this kind of warranty?
I own two of the new compre worm n jig rods in MH and MHX. Honestly, I wish i would of skipped over the new Compre's in Shimano's line up.
On 1/16/2014 at 1:05 AM, SCangler91 said:I just got a Clarus and paired it up with a Sahara 3000. Great combo and ended up pulling in my first two bass of 2014 yesterday afternoon. The tip has some nice flex to it and I can sling a senko type bait a country mile. Sensitivity was brilliant on the two fish I caught yesterday as I felt the bite all the way through the rod.
Hey! Nice rig. I've got the Clarus with a Sahara 2500FD......excellent combo. It was my go-to rig for everything was until I split the workload between it and my Curado/Crucial combo. Now it's my finesse rig.
Can't go wrong with that outfit, it's a winner
The only thing I like about the new Shimano rods are the reel seats and the warranty, though I've never broken a rod before. They are noticeably tip heavy once you get a rod longer than 7', the blanks are thicker, the guides are bigger, the handle is too short on some models and they don't feel as crisp or sensitive compared to the old cork model. I would either pass or find a used model on eBay or one of the forums. I see Crucial's pop up all the time in great condition for like $75-100.
On 1/16/2014 at 4:21 AM, TrippyJai said:The only thing I like about the new Shimano rods are the reel seats and the warranty, though I've never broken a rod before. They are noticeably tip heavy once you get a rod longer than 7', the blanks are thicker, the guides are bigger, the handle is too short on some models and they don't feel as crisp or sensitive compared to the old cork model. I would either pass or find a used model on eBay or one of the forums. I see Crucial's pop up all the time in great condition for like $75-100.
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I have a St. Croix mojo bass, a Abu Veritas, and a Shimano Compre. Veritas and mojo are casting, Compre is spinning. I'd stay away from the Veritas, lots of issues with the guides, and the warranty is a pain to deal with. The mojo is awesome, I love it. Super sensitive, little tip-heavy with a 6.7 oz reel. The Compre is also very very nice, and is also a tad tip heavy with an Orra SX 20 spinning reel. Not sure on the weight. I prefer the Mojo though, I like the cork, and I think the styling is much better as well. Both are very nice. I'd say go into your tackle shop and fee which one you like best. Next on my list of $100 rods is the *** *** Black, and then a Duckett Ghost...
I have 4 compre rods 3 casting and 1 spinning. I love the rods I have the 7'2"MH/F 7'2" M/XF, 6'8"M, 6'8" M/XF casting and the 7'2" M/XF spinning. as far as sensitivity I think they are among the best at the price range, maybe the *** has better sensitivity. the balance is a perfect on the rods under 7' and just a tiny bit tip heavy on the rods over 7'. the durability of these rods are some of the best i have ever fished, which is partly why they can offer a lifetime warranty on the 100 dollar rod series. I also feel that the reel seat on these rods are the best of any at its price point. Honestly I would take a look at Ron's deal on the tatula rods 100.00 if I needed another rod that would be the one.
Mitch
FWIW..................I have owned the following $80-$125 rods over the last 6-8 years:
St Croix Premier
St Croix Mojo
St Croix Triumph
St Croix Eyecon
Fenwick HMX
Fenwick HMG
Kistler Graphite Special
BPS Extreme
Shimano Clarus
Shimano Compre
Abu Garcia Vendetta
Abu Garcia Veritas
And probably a few more I can't remember.
If I had to do it over again, the ones I would NOT buy again would be the Kistler, the St Croix Premiers, and the Shimano Clarus's. Kistler..............because they are over priced junk..........(.IMHO of coarse, don't want to rile the fan boys up). The Premier was low on the bang for the buck scale when you could get the same blank cheaper in the Mojo and Triumph, and the Clarus's (at least the ones I had......6'8" MH/F spinning, and 7'11' H/XF flipping) because they were unbalanced and heavy. I'd flip a coin on the rest, as I liked them all.
On 1/16/2014 at 8:24 AM, ww2farmer said:FWIW..................I have owned the following $80-$125 rods over the last 6-8 years:
St Croix Premier
St Croix Mojo
St Croix Triumph
St Croix Eyecon
Fenwick HMX
Fenwick HMG
Kistler Graphite Special
BPS Extreme
Shimano Clarus
Shimano Compre
Abu Garcia Vendetta
Abu Garcia Veritas
And probably a few more I can't remember.
If I had to do it over again, the ones I would NOT buy again would be the Kistler, the St Croix Premiers, and the Shimano Clarus's. Kistler..............because they are over priced junk..........(.IMHO of coarse, don't want to rile the fan boys up). The Premier was low on the bang for the buck scale when you could get the same blank cheaper in the Mojo and Triumph, and the Clarus's (at least the ones I had......6'8" MH/F spinning, and 7'11' H/XF flipping) because they were unbalanced and heavy. I'd flip a coin on the rest, as I liked them all.
Which rods that you mentioned, do you feel are the best in sensitivity and the obvious... The mojo, veritas (also i have a vendetta, how close is the sensitivity compared to the veritas) and both of the fenwicks?
On 1/16/2014 at 10:30 AM, MrTexasRigs said:Which rods that you mentioned, do you feel are the best in sensitivity and the obvious... The mojo, veritas (also i have a vendetta, how close is the sensitivity compared to the veritas) and both of the fenwicks?
Senstitivity...too subjective.........they were all plenty sensitive.
Best built, best components, best warranty....St Croix gets the nod here.
Best Bang for the buck....Fenwick
Best Balance, and lightest weight.....both go to Abu
I also have several Vendetta's and Veritas's.........again flip a coin. The Veritas's are lighter, but as far as "feel" I don't notice a huge diff.
On 1/16/2014 at 10:40 AM, ww2farmer said:Senstitivity...too subjective.........they were all plenty sensitive.
Best built, best components, best warranty....St Croix gets the nod here.
Best Bang for the buck....Fenwick
Best Balance, and lightest weight.....both go to Abu
I also have several Vendetta's and Veritas's.........again flip a coin. The Veritas's are lighter, but as far as "feel" I don't notice a huge diff.
Thanks, you just narrowed down my selections, the only one i have not felt in person is the HMG.
On 1/16/2014 at 3:23 AM, tgm said:Please elaborate on tip heavy,Is this with a 6oz.reel,8oz.,10oz.?I don't understand.Who else has a 100 dollar rod with this kind of warranty?
Well, tip-heavy is a subjective thing. For me, when I put my reel on the rod, I want the tip to feel as if it isn't there. Super light, easy to lift.
Tip-heavy tends to show up after hours of fishing, too. If a rod makes your arm tired when using it for soft-plastics (TX, Mojo, Wacky), constantly lifting, dropping, lifting dropping, it's tip-heavy.
Again, we are all different, so what I consider tip-heavy may not be what you consider tip-heavy. For me, if when I put my reel on, I hold it the way I like, and the tip goes down fast, that's tip-heavy. If the tip goes down slow, it is less so. If it goes down little to not-at-all, it is tip light.
That's why I personally suggest each person test a rod (if they can) with their own model of reel. See how it feels -- how YOU hold it. Every rod has a balancing point, but we all hold rods differently. So a balancing point may or may not be the best way to gauge if a rod is tip-heavy/light.
All my 2 cents, so take it for what it's worth
I owned 3 Compre's 7'1" Medium and MH Fast and also a Heavy Fast rod. They were solid sticks. I also own a Veritas, comparing the two I'd pick the Compre because of the lifetime warranty. Overall they are close in performance, but I also like the actions better on a Shimano rod. Both have decent sensitivity, however if you can I'd save another 50 bucks and buy a Crucial. The difference in sensitivity is major. I would also check out if you aren't set on a Shimano to check out the Fenwick lines. I really want to try a HMG newer version, they have impressed me with the other lines (Aetos and ET Smallmouth) that I am willing to bet they are great sticks too.
On 1/16/2014 at 2:00 PM, lmbfisherman said:I also own a Veritas, comparing the two I'd pick the Compre because of the lifetime warranty.
I am going to have to start calling Shimano out on there so called "warranty" . The over the counter lifetime warranty is only as good as the stores that sell the rods..........Around here NOT ONE SINGLE STORE THAT SELLS THEM WILL HONOR IT.....and Shimano gives you the run around when you try to go through them by telling you to take it to a retail location. The whole thing is a farce. With St Croix, and Pure Fishing (Abu, Fenwick, Berkley,etc...) you get a REAL warranty.
On 1/16/2014 at 9:38 PM, ww2farmer said:I am going to have to start calling Shimano out on there so called "warranty" . The over the counter lifetime warranty is only as good as the stores that sell the rods..........Around here NOT ONE SINGLE STORE THAT SELLS THEM WILL HONOR IT.....and Shimano gives you the run around when you try to go through them by telling you to take it to a retail location. The whole thing is a farce. With St Croix, and Pure Fishing (Abu, Fenwick, Berkley,etc...) you get a REAL warranty.
I haven't had to deal with the Shimano warranty yet. Unfortunately, I did have to deal with Pure Fishing's though... A guide on my Veritas Micro broke off. Through the warranty replacement process, I was shipped a Fenwick Walleye jigging spinning rod, four Penn Carnage saltwater jigging rods, and finally, after a TON of e-mails, my new Veritas. If your Pure Fishing product breaks and is under warranty, all I have to say is good luck to you...
On 1/17/2014 at 3:47 AM, LivewellHero said:. If your Pure Fishing product breaks and is under warranty, all I have to say is good luck to you...
Mine have, and I have had fantastic service from them.
I have a gander mtn here and the shimano replacement warranty is exactly as advertised at least in my area. The fishing staff looks at the rod then lets you choose another of equal or lesser value shimano. I have not had warranty issues with any company, I have had veritas break, no problem sent the rod out very quickly. st. croix not a problem either. I think you just have to know how to deal with the customer service department.
Mitch
On 1/16/2014 at 9:38 PM, ww2farmer said:I am going to have to start calling Shimano out on there so called "warranty" . The over the counter lifetime warranty is only as good as the stores that sell the rods..........Around here NOT ONE SINGLE STORE THAT SELLS THEM WILL HONOR IT.....and Shimano gives you the run around when you try to go through them by telling you to take it to a retail location. The whole thing is a farce. With St Croix, and Pure Fishing (Abu, Fenwick, Berkley,etc...) you get a REAL warranty.
I have a local shop who was willing to replace my 11 year old Shimano V Rod with the latest Crucial because of the reel seat is loose. Seems good to me, I guess you're just not in luck around there.
Bass Pro honored my warranty without a question and even let me pick a different model when they didn't have my exact rod on hand. The Shimano over the counter is one of the most hassle free warranties around.
On 1/17/2014 at 11:39 AM, OK Bass Hunter said:. The Shimano over the counter is one of the most hassle free warranties around.
It probably is...... If the local stores you buy from honor it.... I am not the only one here who's had an issue with it locally... Jfrancho, I think had the same issue, and I thought.... "well that can't be right? "..... Until it was my turn to use it.
On 1/17/2014 at 11:39 AM, OK Bass Hunter said:Bass Pro honored my warranty without a question and even let me pick a different model when they didn't have my exact rod on hand. The Shimano over the counter is one of the most hassle free warranties around.
Not at our local basspro.... I had two compres last year (have since moved on to St Croix Rage) that had the epoxy fail on the reel seat. The second time it had been almost four months since I purchased it. I took it in to the BPS where I bought it with a receipt in hand and they gave me a really hard time about it being past 90 days. I attempted to explain Shimano's over the counter warranty and only when the manager came to customer service did they look through their policy book and found out that I was right. I was not that impressed by their customer service people over this one...
As far as the $100 rods go, I have a Carbonlite that I really like, and also a Veritas. I had a microguide break off the Veritas, and honestly it was cheaper and faster for me to have it replaced locally rather than sending it out. I like both rods, but im also wanting to try the Duckett Ghost rods. As far as the Compre, it seems more beefy than my Crucial and maybe a tad bit heavier. I havent found any Shimano rod tip heavy at all, even the $80 Clarus that I snapped in two. I brought that rod back to basspro and had no problems exchanging it.
On 1/17/2014 at 11:13 PM, CD1542 said:As far as the $100 rods go, I have a Carbonlite that I really like, and also a Veritas. I had a microguide break off the Veritas, and honestly it was cheaper and faster for me to have it replaced locally rather than sending it out. I like both rods, but im also wanting to try the Duckett Ghost rods. As far as the Compre, it seems more beefy than my Crucial and maybe a tad bit heavier. I havent found any Shimano rod tip heavy at all, even the $80 Clarus that I snapped in two. I brought that rod back to basspro and had no problems exchanging it.
How's your sensitivity on that Carbonlite compared to the Veritas/your other rods. I'll be heading to Bass Pro next month
On 1/18/2014 at 4:53 AM, MrTexasRigs said:How's your sensitivity on that Carbonlite compared to the Veritas/your other rods. I'll be heading to Bass Pro next month
Crucial, Carbonlite, Veritas, Clarus in that order. The crucial is far more sensitive than the others.