I've never went lower than 10# until I got Senshi which 10# feels like its 4# of other brands. Any how I have 20# braid I thought would be good, then reading it says 6# diameter. Only have 1 reel with braid and it's 40#. If someone can school me on lowest I can go that would be great!
Mono : 8lb. ~ 10lb. Suffix Elite
Fluor : 12 lb. Seaguar InvizX
Braid : 40lb. Suffix 832
Above brands are listed simply as a consistant reference point (line diameter) .
If you want to go lighter than the lines listed above - go with a spinning rod & reel .
8# mono or 30# braid. Lower than 30# digs in when you catch a fish, then your next cast could make your lure into a fly ball.
I once talked to a guy who was telling me all about this new line called braid (I played along of course not to be rude) he said it has "crazy breaking strength" and that his 10# spiderwire is stronger than my 14# mono (he's right). He had a rapala clackin rap tied on, the first cast in front of me he caught a nice chunky 12"er. Second cast sent his lure 100 yards into the middle of the river. He cussed and cussed yelling that they lied and this POS line isn't strong at all. I just told him to have a nice day and wished him better luck.
His new fancy $20 spool of 10# braid cost him a $12 lure on the 2nd cast. That's what happens when you go too light with braid!
I got 6lb Tatsu on my Aldebaran BFS, mind you its got a 1.5mm Avail spool, never digs in.
For cranking you can get away with 20lb braid but it will dig in if your drag is set too tight, but for other stuff I wouldn't go lighter than 30lb braid
I have 8lb diameter braid on a few of my bait casters and have no issues.
I've used 6lb mono/fluoro and I've used 15lb braid without problems. The lowest I typically go on a baitcaster is 8lb though. I use mostly Japanese lines, so 8lb is actually 8lb; unlike lines like yo-zuri or trilene, where 8lb is closer to 12lb diameter.
30 lb braid. When first spooling braid on I put it on super tight. After I catch a fish I'll just cast out lightly if I have any problems with it digging.
Depends on the reel....A BFS can and will fish 4-6# line. The lowest I've personally ever gone on a 51 size shimano is 8# sniper which is a very small line and I didn't have any issues and was comfortable fishing /w it.
Two of my Pixies are spooled with 6 lbs test nylon, my Scorpion 1000 Mg with 8 lb test.
Ok so riddle me this. I want to throw shaky heads. So was considering grabbing a whole combo under 7' m/f with real. Spinning. Then it dawned on me my Tatula R and 6'7 *** m/f handles light stuff great. (I've been using it Fluke/jerk baits) setting up for next outing I see the spool is half empty so back yard cast brought me about 5 cranks from knot. So went in basement and all my 10# FC spools are not enough for a full spool (what a waste). Anyhow have these spools of 20# braid and since I am casting light weight stuff figured it might work without dropping $20 on a spool of FC.... So with what you guys said I may be fine casting but after a fish or 2 I will see it digging in? Also any chance any of you guys throw shaky head on mono cause I have tons of that readily accessible. Thanks for the feedback guys!
You won't necessarily see digging in. A lot of it depends on the line itself, and your drag setting. I have used 20lb 832 and never had a problem with digging in. I don't really like braid for shakyheads or dropshotting though; much prefer fluoro.
Is there some kind of rule I've never heard about that says you can't fish shakeyheads on nylon ? .... Call me a sinner because I've been doing it for more than 3 decades.On 7/9/2014 at 11:12 AM, dam0007 said:Ok so riddle me this. I want to throw shaky heads. So was considering grabbing a whole combo under 7' m/f with real. Spinning. Then it dawned on me my Tatula R and 6'7 *** m/f handles light stuff great. (I've been using it Fluke/jerk baits) setting up for next outing I see the spool is half empty so back yard cast brought me about 5 cranks from knot. So went in basement and all my 10# FC spools are not enough for a full spool (what a waste). Anyhow have these spools of 20# braid and since I am casting light weight stuff figured it might work without dropping $20 on a spool of FC.... So with what you guys said I may be fine casting but after a fish or 2 I will see it digging in? Also any chance any of you guys throw shaky head on mono cause I have tons of that readily accessible. Thanks for the feedback guys!
Some braids remain round others tend to flatten and knife down between lose braid on the spool under pressured. Tatula R handles .009 diameter line without any problems. Set your drag about 3 lbs.
Tom
Ive been throwing 1/16oz shakeyheads and cranks up to 1/4oz on 4lb mono & 8-10lb braid. Works Great
I use lots of tackle of different styles. Personally, I use spinning tackle for lighter lines (<10#) and baits (<1/2). As you can see from the other posts though there is no hard ad fast rule.
On 7/9/2014 at 9:21 AM, ChrisD46 said:Mono : 8lb. ~ 10lb. Suffix Elite
Fluor : 12 lb. Seaguar InvizX
Braid : 40lb. Suffix 832
Above brands are listed simply as a consistant reference point (line diameter) .
If you want to go lighter than the lines listed above - go with a spinning rod & reel .
x2 on this ... I use all Seaguar stuff but the lb. test are the exact same that I recommend.
I've tried 20# PP in a BC- had nothing but problems with it, so I went with 30# and havent looked back since. I do throw my frogs with 50# and the backlashes aren't that bad to deal with. I have yet to have a problem with Seaguar Kanzen digging in too far. I know that with the hollow body frogs the line doesn't spool back up that tight so when I do catch a fish and go to cast after I usually underhand the first cast just to keep it from backlashing if it has dug in.
I can't comment on the light braid as I don't use braid that light, I'm sorry.
I can tell you, when I used to dropshot on a casting rod I would put 6lb fluoro (trilene 100% stuff is thick but not manageable) on an old Citica 100d. I never had problems with backlash or any of the like so it can definitely be an option!
I'm new to SH and see general consensus is fluoro. Wasn't knocking nylonOn 7/9/2014 at 12:58 PM, Raul said:Is there some kind of rule I've never heard about that says you can't fish shakeyheads on nylon ? .... Call me a sinner because I've been doing it for more than 3 decades.
on a Bc tho?On 7/9/2014 at 9:07 PM, thehooligan said:Ive been throwing 1/16oz shakeyheads and cranks up to 1/4oz on 4lb mono & 8-10lb braid. Works Great
Eight pound diameter is the bare minimum on caster.
On 7/10/2014 at 5:53 AM, dam0007 said:I'm new to SH and see general consensus is fluoro. Wasn't knocking nylon on a Bc tho?
Yea, but im using aftermarket shallow spools. In my regular casting reels that arent for finesse fishing i typically use 8-12lb line
On 7/9/2014 at 9:07 PM, thehooligan said:Ive been throwing 1/16oz shakeyheads and cranks up to 1/4oz on 4lb mono & 8-10lb braid. Works Great
On 7/10/2014 at 5:53 AM, dam0007 said:on a Bc tho?
I dont use over 20# braid on any of my bc reels and all of them have braid. I toss Bitsy Minnows up to 3/4oz spinnerbaits as the heaviest I go for a lure. I have 10-15-20#, 10# I used for years til I started throwing frogs then went to 20# on a couple reels only a couple years ago. If I had issues I wouldnt continue to use.
On 7/10/2014 at 6:54 AM, iceintheveins said:Eight pound diameter is the bare minimum on caster.
Maybe for your situation. I am using 6# mono on 2 reels minimum with no problem. However, these reels go on ML and Light rods.
Hmmm. This is why I wanted a second spinning set up because my head is spinning now lol
Thanks all for the help!
I think I'm gonna try the 20# braid on the type r and tie on a 10# leader.
On 7/9/2014 at 8:57 AM, dam0007 said:I've never went lower than 10# until I got Senshi which 10# feels like its 4# of other brands. Any how I have 20# braid I thought would be good, then reading it says 6# diameter. Only have 1 reel with braid and it's 40#. If someone can school me on lowest I can go that would be great!
I caught my PB on a bait caster with 10# braid + 10# leader.
That said, I prefer 20# PowerPro now. I've used heavier, but prefer 20. Everyone's opinion is valid, for them.
I like throwing lighter lures on my BC setups, so 20 works great. Digging in is not a problem. If you do happen to dig in, just pull out the line and relieve the situation. I've thrown up to 4" weighted swim baits on 20. No problems. Really depends on you. If you are not comfortable with it, go heavier.
You do not have to match diameter of mono and braid.
20# says 6# diameter. What's the inches per turn gonna be. I don't want to reel in 12" per crank either. LolOn 7/10/2014 at 9:26 AM, DarrenM said:I caught my PB on a bait caster with 10# braid + 10# leader.
That said, I prefer 20# PowerPro now. I've used heavier, but prefer 20. Everyone's opinion is valid, for them.
I like throwing lighter lures on my BC setups, so 20 works great. Digging in is not a problem. If you do happen to dig in, just pull out the line and relieve the situation. I've thrown up to 4" weighted swim baits on 20. No problems. Really depends on you. If you are not comfortable with it, go heavier.
You do not have to match diameter of mono and braid.
On 7/10/2014 at 9:47 AM, dam0007 said:20# says 6# diameter. What's the inches per turn gonna be. I don't want to reel in 12" per crank either. Lol
Line diameter has no bearing on IPT.
On 7/10/2014 at 9:47 AM, dam0007 said:20# says 6# diameter. What's the inches per turn gonna be. I don't want to reel in 12" per crank either. Lol
Good question, and I don't know!
I just know that my Chronarch 50e reels bring in plenty of inches per turn, and my Lexa 7.0:1 is even faster!
On 7/10/2014 at 9:51 AM, Tywithay said:Line diameter has no bearing on IPT.
Yea I don't get that at all, maybe he can explain his confusion so we can make it clear...
Referring to dam0007 post of course
On 7/10/2014 at 9:51 AM, Tywithay said:Line diameter has no bearing on IPT.
On 7/10/2014 at 9:57 AM, DarrenM said:Good question, and I don't know!
I just know that my Chronarch 50e reels bring in plenty of inches per turn, and my Lexa 7.0:1 is even faster!
On 7/10/2014 at 10:32 AM, Alonerankin2 said:Yea I don't get that at all, maybe he can explain his confusion so we can make it clear...
Lmao I'm making this much more difficult than it needs to be huh. Lol
Actually my mistake. I'm thinking because the spool of braid is 150 yards, thought it was gonna be terrible because the limited amount of line on a deep spool. Forgot to consider backing. Obviously full spool will pull in larger amounts of line than a spool 1/3 way full.
Yea you're talking about overall line capacity, not ipt.... Ok... Gotcha!