I am getting the BPS crankin stick medium light. I hope to throw light lures on light line. What reel do you recommend?
Curado I or Tatula in the 5 ratio.
On 5/8/2015 at 11:41 AM, iceintheveins said:Curado I or Tatula in the 5 ratio.
Reasons for the low gear ratio?
How light are the lures you want to throw. I dont think you need a low gear ratio for small cranks. I only use it on deep divers and usually use a 6.3:1 or so on other cranks. Id suggest a smaller reel for light cranks than the tatula or curado. Something like a 50 series shimano, *** concept reels, daiwa alphas or pixy, or other brands smaller reels should be able to handle small stuff under 3/8oz or so a lot better
How much do you want to spend?
I would go with a low gear ratio on a light stick because it won't bend as much when cranking at a lower speed. I have a light stick with a Lews tourney speed spool. Also have a bb1 and tatula I would reccomend.
I mainly want to throw 5/16 to 1/8.On 5/8/2015 at 11:55 AM, timsford said:How light are the lures you want to throw. I dont think you need a low gear ratio for small cranks. I only use it on deep divers and usually use a 6.3:1 or so on other cranks. Id suggest a smaller reel for light cranks than the tatula or curado. Something like a 50 series shimano, *** concept reels, daiwa alphas or pixy, or other brands smaller reels should be able to handle small stuff under 3/8oz or so a lot better
The current line up of shimano 50s are out of my budget. Can you tell me more about ***? Will *** handle light lures?
What are some other light reel currently available and not being sold on the black market?
On 5/8/2015 at 11:58 AM, Jrob78 said:How much do you want to spend?
No more than 150 preferably around $100. Any thoughts on the Bps ProQ?
On 5/8/2015 at 12:00 PM, CRANKENSTIEN said:I would go with a low gear ratio on a light stick because it won't bend as much when cranking at a lower speed. I have a light stick with a Lews tourney speed spool. Also have a bb1 and tatula I would reccomend.
Out of three which one did you like? How light did you go?
Its hard to throw 1/16 on any baitcasting reel, especially a stock one available new, unless you want to spend a little more money. The *** reels have pretty shallow spools but i dont think they can handle that light of weight. Even the 50 size shimanos and high end daiwas have a hard time doing it stock. Id say your best bet is try for maybe 1/8oz and see if you can find a gently use. Shimano 50e or a daiwa reel that can accept sv or rcs spools. Then you can use it now and save a little and get some bfs bearings and a tuning spool and throw the weights you want.
It depends how much you want to spend. I personally have a crankin stick and its been working great for me. I love the sensitivity on the rod.
The weights you want to throw require a finesse reel which are tough to find in you're price range. You might be able to find a used shimano 50 series, but for 1/8 you'll still need a shallow spool like yumeya or avail which aren't cheap. I didn't like throwing this light with my stock 51. If you stick with the upper end of you're weight range then the stock reel can handle it fine. I've heard the chronarch 50mg can handle 1/8, but I have no experience with it. Maybe someone with experience can chime in. You can find gently used 50 size reels for the upper end of your price range.
I may be wrong but are you looking at this rod to fish other baits besides cranks? I was wondering because you asked about the low gear ratio which is normally associated with cranks.
On 5/8/2015 at 10:00 AM, Nstd said:I am getting the BPS crankin stick medium light. I hope to throw light lures on light line. What reel do you recommend?
On 5/8/2015 at 12:00 PM, Nstd said:I mainly want to throw 5/16 to 1/8.
The current line up of shimano 50s are out of my budget. Can you tell me more about ***? Will *** handle light lures?
What are some other light reel currently available and not being sold on the black market?
I'd like to ask which 1/8 to 5/16 ounce lures & techniques are you planning to use a cranking stick for ?
Crank baits that size are generally considered Panfish baits.
When throwing such light baits, a spinning outfit would really be whole lot more effective.
A-Jay
I'd go light and keep it BPS with a Carbonlite with the 5:4:1 ratio. Mine does well with 10# fluoro throwing 1/4oz swim jigs.
On 5/8/2015 at 12:02 PM, Nstd said:No more than 150 preferably around $100. Any thoughts on the Bps ProQ?
Never owned one, but I have considered it a couple times. The number of great reviews is unmatched. Unless you can find a good sale on something else that would most likely be a good choice
On 5/8/2015 at 12:02 PM, Nstd said:Out of three which one did you like? How light did you go?
I have the Lews tourney speed spool on my duckett 7' m and casting a 1/4 oz or small cranks isnt a problem. You need to be using a 10lb small diameter line to get your best cast. I have never put smaller on a baitcaster, it may be fine. The speed spool has both magnetic and centrifugal breaks which may also assist in throwing light baits, because you can loosen up the spool tension. I believe the BPS pro qualifier has the 2 breaks as well.
I have a new Pinnacle Optimus LTE in a slow ratio that I've been testing for review and it's every bit as good as anything else in its price range.
On 5/8/2015 at 8:42 PM, A-Jay said:I'd like to ask which 1/8 to 5/16 ounce lures & techniques are you planning to use a cranking stick for ?
Crank baits that size are generally considered Panfish baits.
When throwing such light baits, a spinning outfit would really be whole lot more effective.
A-Jay
Agree, you would be able to get a longer cast on a light bait. Unless you are targeting certain areas and our more comfortable with a baitcaster. I throw small squares, sk series 3 to 5 and rapala dt 6 and 10 and shad raps on my light baitcaster all the time.
On 5/8/2015 at 10:08 PM, CRANKENSTIEN said:Agree, you would be able to get a longer cast on a light bait. Unless you are targeting certain areas and our more comfortable with a baitcaster. I throw small squares, sk series 3 to 5 and rapala dt 6 and 10 and shad raps on my light baitcaster all the time.
The 3 & 5 series baits weigh 1/4 & 1/2 oz respectively, which in my mind plants them squarely into the casting gear category.
Whipping an 1/8 ounce nothing bait on revolving spool tackle would never feel more comfortable than the easy of spinning gear for me.
A-Jay
On 5/8/2015 at 12:14 PM, wuchr20 said:It depends how much you want to spend. I personally have a crankin stick and its been working great for me. I love the sensitivity on the rod.
What do you use?
On 5/8/2015 at 7:11 PM, smalljaw67 said:I may be wrong but are you looking at this rod to fish other baits besides cranks? I was wondering because you asked about the low gear ratio which is normally associated with cranks.
Crankbait.
On 5/8/2015 at 8:42 PM, A-Jay said:I'd like to ask which 1/8 to 5/16 ounce lures & techniques are you planning to use a cranking stick for ?
Crank baits that size are generally considered Panfish baits.
When throwing such light baits, a spinning outfit would really be whole lot more effective.
A-Jay
The reason for baitcaster and light crankbaits is because I cast and retrieve more efficently on a baitcaster.
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Do any of you recommend the Daiwa Lexa 100 for light crankbaits (1/4 oz)? Its currently on sale at TW for $70.
I cast light lures all day on my Quantum Energy PT reels with Phenix M1 rods in the ML version which is a similar rod.
Also saw someone say something about gear ration. Worry about that only to match reel to technique not for how light or heavy a lure is.
Don't they make mini crappie reels that can cast all that? I think they are cheap also. Light cranks is spinning all day for me. Super shadraps, small jerkbaits, tiny squatebilll like a 1.0 is effortless on spinning.
On 5/9/2015 at 3:22 AM, hatrix said:Don't they make mini crappie reels that can cast all that? I think they are cheap also. Light cranks is spinning all day for me. Super shadraps, small jerkbaits, tiny squatebilll like a 1.0 is effortless on spinning.
What is everyone's thoughts on the bass pro crappie Max mighty lite? Does it serve my purposes?
I have no idea but I do no crappie baits are teny tiny and super light.
I'm With A-Jay and hatrix On The Spinning Outfit ,
Getting Use To Using The Spinning Outfit , Gives You One More Weapon Out There.
Hope The Bait Caster Set-Up Works Out For You ,
Mike
The PQ is the best reel for the price unless you can find the Tatula on sale for the same price. I have four PQ's. Also have two crankin' sticks (the old models) and they are real awesome rods for the price. Sure you will get better rods for more money but for something under 80 bucks you can't beat them.
If you can find one, the shimano chronarch have been on sale $159. I would pick up the 200 e5. Low gear ratio for slow rolling crank baits = awesome fun....
http://www.gandermountain.com/modperl/product/details.cgi?pdesc=Shimano-Chronarch-Baitcast-Reel-CH50E-Right-Retrieve&i=446056
1/8 oz. ain't easy to throw with a baitcast reel. I don't care how easy some claim it to be. It takes a fair amount of skill. At least with any of the reels I have used so far. I did pick up a PXL over the winter, but haven't used it yet. Maybe my opinion will change after getting it set up. I assume you have plenty of experience with a baitcast reel given you seem to prefer them so it might be doable for you. I have a hard time with 1/8 oz., but currently have 3 combos that cast 3/16 oz. #5 Shad Raps with aplomb. Haven't tried that light yet on my Smallmouth rod rated down to 1/8 oz., but have to assume it will also handle 3/16 oz. just fine. All 3 combos will cast a #5 Shad Rap about as far as some of my MH rods will cast a 1/2 oz. spinnerbait.
Two of the 3 combos have older gold colored Carbonlites on them. (All 3 combos use 6# mono). One of the Carbonlites is on a 7' ML Crankin' Stick. It casts the #5 Shad Rap just as far as a tuned and upgraded TD-Z105H / 7' ML Fenwick HMG.....in my hands. A more proficient caster could probably do better with the TD-Z. You should be able to find the older Carbonlite for a lot less than $100 (around $60-$65 in very good shape). No experience with the older Prolites, but one should do even better than the Carbonlite for what you want to do. Still for less than $100. Never used a PQ, but doubt it would do the trick for you. It strikes me as a good all around reel from what I have read, but not a finesse reel.
You might want to consider J Franco's suggestion. I picked up a Primmus over the winter for less than $160 shipped. I am very impressed with the reel so far. However, I haven't tried light lures with it yet. I love my Curado 51E / Smallmouth 6' 10" MF combo, but think I will try the Primmus on it and try some lighter lures. The Primmus weighs 5.9 oz. and comes hand tuned from the factory. I think it is a fantastic reel.
EDIT: I make that statement about the Primmus comparing it against older Chronarchs, Curados, Revos (Gen 1 STX and Premier), a Lews TP, Pfluegers and 20 plus Daiwas of various models.
On 5/8/2015 at 11:36 PM, A-Jay said:The 3 & 5 series baits weigh 1/4 & 1/2 oz respectively, which in my mind plants them squarely into the casting gear category.
Whipping an 1/8 ounce nothing bait on revolving spool tackle would never feel more comfortable than the easy of spinning gear for me.
A-Jay
I agree A-Jay especially with a fluffy for weight spinnerbait or crankbait, a jig would be better but still much better for me on a spinning outfit,,,,
Grateful for the wealth of info!
I'm coming from a local fish forum and I feel so much more welcomed and edified here.
No one is bashing me for asking too many questions. It seems like people here are wiser and more patient.
Currently leaning towards the shimano chron 50e and try to throw 3/16 + cranks
Thanks BR!
Agree. Just don't ask how to fish a Senko.. LOL Just a thread that got banged/debated around a few weeks ago
So i found out the crankin' stick can throw lures down to 5/16 comfortably. 1/4 was sort of pushing it.
So I picked up a lightweight spincasting rod, paired it up with bass pro crappie baitcaster and now i can throw lures down to 1/8 oz comfortably.
Here's a pic and I also posted a video in the fish report (http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/157555-lightweight-baitcaster/).