Furthest Casting Low Profile Reel? 2024
Virtuoso reply :
I was wondering what is the furthest casting low profile baitcasting reel ever made (or used by you)? $ not an issue and if you have upgrades to the reel, make certain to mention them.
In this scenario, lets assume that the rod being used is held constant. The reel must be effective at casting anything from 1/4-3/4oz baits.
EDIT: Hear-Say and furthest reel you have personally used
aavery2 reply :
Typically reels that excel at casting baits on the lower end of that scale do not perform as well when casting baits on the upper end and visa versa.
Most stock reels without the benefit of bearing and or spool upgrades are going to cast in the range of 30 to 40 yards in the hands of the average user.
Jrob78 reply :
How could anybody possibly know that?
Virtuoso reply :
On 11/17/2013 at 11:45 AM, Jrob78 said:How could anybody possibly know that?
I would love objectivity but I am looking for opinions
For Example: The furthest casting Casting Reel I have used outside of this range is a Daiwa Z200H, Furthest Inside of this range is a T3 MX, with full ceramic bearings and a very fine polish, with a spool upgrade.
Jrob78 reply :
On 11/17/2013 at 11:50 AM, Virtuoso said:I would love objectivity but I am looking for opinions
For Example: The furthest casting Casting Reel I have used outside of this range is a Daiwa Z200H, Furthest Inside of this range is a T3 MX, with full ceramic bearings and a very fine polish, with a spool upgrade.
Ok, you meant our furthest casting reels, not the furthest casting reel ever made, sorry about that. Mine would probably be either my Fuego or Zillion, throwing 3/8- 1/2oz. Both have Orange Seals but otherwise stock. I think a lot of it has to do with the rod and bait in conjunction with the reel.
aavery2 reply :
On 11/17/2013 at 12:11 PM, Jrob78 said:Ok, you meant our furthest casting reels, not the furthest casting reel ever made, sorry about that. Mine would probably be either my Fuego or Zillion, throwing 3/8- 1/2oz. Both have Orange Seals but otherwise stock. I think a lot of it has to do with the rod and bait in conjunction with the reel.
Joe, next time someone has a 100M spool up for grabs cheap, snap it up, I think you will be impressed with the difference in will make in either the Fuego or the Zillion.
Jrob78 reply :
On 11/17/2013 at 12:29 PM, aavery2 said:Joe, next time someone has a 100M spool up for grabs cheap, snap it up, I think you will be impressed with the difference in will make in either the Fuego or the Zillion.
I will be on the look out. I think the Tackle Trap has them and Southwestern might too. I want to get a 50MG spool for one of my 100D's also.
WRB reply :
If price isn't a concern the Daiwa Steez may be the best production baitcasting reel on the market.
Shimano Core fans may dispute that claim, both are excellent casting reels.
In the mid price, again Daiwa may have the longest casting production reel with the Tatula R, the new reel hasn't been out long enough to be tinkered with. Out of the box this reel cast long distance with ease.
The test of a good casting reel takes time on the water under real fishing conditions. When reel is clean and tuned they cast good, when they have several hours of use under various weather conditions, the reel starts to show it's real performance capabilities. Reels that require constant maintenance to perform well are not worth the effort to achieve 5 extra yards distance.
Judging casting distance is subjective, unless each reel is tested on the same rod with the same line and lure on a measured field. We can't do that unless we own the various reels to test side by side.TT does tackle testing, you might want to research their evaluations.
Tom
kickerfish1 reply :
I don't fish any of the heavy reels much any more so that takes most the distance casting reels out of the equation for my own personal use. With that said my furthest casting outfit is fully customized TDZ 100m on an NRX 873 rod with 12# tatsu.
While distance is fun and intriguing, there comes a point in time where I feel like you can outcast your hook setting range when talking about plastics and jigs. Reaction baits I don't think it matters much.
Assuming a fairly aerodynamic bait, I am more than satisfied with any of my shimano 50 sized variants.
bootytrain reply :
Theres a Youtube video of a guy pendulum casting a Conquest DC 130 meters (422 feet). Shimano positions the Calais DC above the Conquest DC with a more advanced DC unit. Im sure the Calais DC could equal that.
Bluebasser86 reply :
A Shimano Calcutta TE DC 250 is the furthest casting reel I've ever cast with, never owned one though.
I have a stock Lew's Speed Spool that casts further than any stock reel I've ever owned other than maybe when my Curado 200BSF was brand new. I have a super tuned Curado 200B that casts farther than any other reel I own right now.
Topwaterspook reply :
My Calais DC is definitely my longest casting reel.
skeletor6 reply :
On 11/17/2013 at 1:05 PM, WRB said:If price isn't a concern the Daiwa Steez may be the best production baitcasting reel on the market.
Shimano Core fans may dispute that claim, both are excellent casting reels.
In the mid price, again Daiwa may have the longest casting production reel with the Tatula R, the new reel hasn't been out long enough to be tinkered with. Out of the box this reel cast long distance with ease.
The test of a good casting reel takes time on the water under real fishing conditions. When reel is clean and tuned they cast good, when they have several hours of use under various weather conditions, the reel starts to show it's real performance capabilities. Reels that require constant maintenance to perform well are not worth the effort to achieve 5 extra yards distance.
Judging casting distance is subjective, unless each reel is tested on the same rod with the same line and lure on a measured field. We can't do that unless we own the various reels to test side by side.TT does tackle testing, you might want to research their evaluations.
Tom
Do you own both the core and steez? If so, What properties led you to favoring the Steez?
Thanks
Dwight Hottle reply :
Non dc reel is the antares 2012. JDM dc is the antares dc or the USDM calais dc like Stitch said.
Read Jun's Comments at the bottom.
http://www.japantackle.com/Shimano/Shimano_12Antares.htm
00 mod reply :
108+ yrds on a cast
DelcoSol reply :
I must be doing something wrong. I don't get how you guys can cast 100 yards. I have a Lews Tournament pro speed spool on a MH duckett and even if I really try to bomb something far like a 1/2oz jig I can only get maybe 25-30 yards. I have the spool loose and mag brakes off and one cent. brake on. At first I thought I was just underestimating the distance but then I thought about it in boat lengths. 100 yards is almost 17 18' boat lengths and I can tell you that i get nowhere near that. Sorry to derail the thread.
iabass8 reply :
On 11/18/2013 at 12:50 AM, DelcoSol said:I must be doing something wrong. I don't get how you guys can cast 100 yards. I have a Lews Tournament pro speed spool on a MH duckett and even if I really try to bomb something far like a 1/2oz jig I can only get maybe 25-30 yards. I have the spool loose and mag brakes off and one cent. brake on. At first I thought I was just underestimating the distance but then I thought about it in boat lengths. 100 yards is almost 17 18' boat lengths and I can tell you that i get nowhere near that. Sorry to derail the thread.
the majority of people that think they are "bombing a lure 70+ yards" are ridiculously over estimating casting distance. don't sweat it.
WRB reply :
Casting jigs a long distance is relative to the presentation and where you fish. Very few bass anglers will cast a jig further than 30 yards or 90' and that is a long cast. Where and how I fish jigs 90' is my average casting distance during bright sunny days. Occasionally a target area is nearly twice that distance, 50 to 60 yards, my casting distance limit using jigs and casting with my jig rods. Casting over 150' under fishing conditions with a 7/16 oz jig, excluding the trailer, is a very long cast, requiring skill and highly tuned reels with 10 to 12 lb mono or FC line. The only reason to make such a long cast is circumstances that prevent a shorter cast, like a buoy line or something preventing you from getting closer. Sometimes the situation is spooky bass in gin clear water.
The only way you know how far you are casting is marking the line with a sharpie pen at measured distance or casting on a measured distance like a football field.
I fish alone most of the time, however fish with a partner on occasion. There is some pride in tackle ownership, I take pride in my casting distance because it comes into play with the presentation used.
At night casting a long distance isn't required and 50' to 75' becomes a standard distance, the bass are less wary at night where I fish and you can use use heavier line 15 to 20 lb test.
Tom
thehooligan reply :
Longest casting reel I've used was either the new lews bb1 pro or chronarch ci4. Might have to give the edge to the bb1. I had Boca os bearings with no shields installed and was casting 1/4oz-1/2oz lipless cranks a mile.
When it comes down to just amazing reels that are light weight and have great casting distance, I'd have to say the 50 series shimanos and daiwa alphas are my favorite...
aavery2 reply :
KVD is often regarded among his peers on the elite circuit as one of the longest casters. When he was interviewed he said that he could reach a distance of 60 yards under ideal conditions. Take it for what it's worth.
aavery2 reply :
On 11/18/2013 at 12:40 AM, aprw1 said:Tatula, and it ain't even a close competition.
With a spool that weights close to 16 grams, the Tatula is not going to even be in the same league as some of the upper end Daiwa reels. While it will cast great for a reel in it's price range you have missed the mark with declaring it the casting champ.
Virtuoso reply :
16 grams hvy? Do that makr lite bait cast short n heavy long
aavery2 reply :
On 11/18/2013 at 5:17 AM, aprw1 said:This forum is about the furthest casting low profile reel used by "you". The tatula is the furthest baitcasting reel I have ever used. By far. I have not used many other high end daiwa reels, so I don't know how far some of them cast, but this reel definitely outcast a zillion with most lures..
I was wondering what is the furthest casting low profile baitcasting reel ever made (or used by you)?, The wording in your response made me think that your response was to the first part of the question. My mistake, so which version of the Zillion reels are you comparing your experience to. I would bet a Zillion with a PE long cast spool, a 100M spool or a Zillion HLC spool would have no problem keeping up.
BassWhole! reply :
In casting actual lures than one would use for bass fishing, I don't think there is a huge difference between the best reels. If its just a hypothetical casting contest, I can dump my Calais or Matrix IIs with 15 lb mono and a 3 or 4 oz sinker with a flipping stick. Make a lot of money off fresh water guys who "cast far"...Oh, its 3 parts copier lube, 1 part Mobil 1, 1/2 part secret ingredient...
WRB reply :
The rod plays a big role in casting for distance. The more parabolic and longer the rod the further a reel can cast. The lure type, weight and aerodynamic it is the further it will travel. Lots of factors to consider. Wind and temperature factor in casting distance. When you have 2 anglers casting the same type and weight lures to the same target and one reel cast significantly further by both anglers, that is a good comparison.
My old 90's vintage TD-X 103HiA's, super tuned with up graded bearings, are still my benchmark casting reels.
These reels require skill to cast long distance anyone who tries to cast my reels blows them up and must adjust the end cap to add spool tension for friends to use. The old Daiwa's are good reels, but not for everyone and that also should be a consideration...ease of casting.
Tom
NEjitterbugger reply :
On 11/18/2013 at 12:30 AM, 00 mod said:108+ yrds on a cast
Those reels are sooo goood looking, to expensive for me though...
War Eagle 44 reply :
On 11/18/2013 at 2:28 AM, aavery2 said:With a spool that weights close to 16 grams, the Tatula is not going to even be in the same league as some of the upper end Daiwa reels. While it will cast great for a reel in it's price range you have missed the mark with declaring it the casting champ.
Well, your statement isn't exactly 100% true. Yes the lighter spools will cast light lures better but when you get up to the 3/4 oz and heavier range a heavier spool will cast farther, simple physics.
As to the original topic, the farthest casting reel I've used is a Calais DC. Non-DC reel is a Chronarch 101B that I've upgraded with different spool bearings and performed a complete polish on. Also have the lightest brake blocks (clear) Shimano offers and I've made a modification to them as well. I actually have 3 different color brakes, clear, smoke, and green, on the spool so I can fine tune for any condition.
WRB reply :
Light weight spool is always an advantage when casting long distance. Big game marlin and tuna reels are up graded with lighter weight spools to improve casting live baits like mackerel to surface feeding fish. It's like a heavy flywheel, the inertia of the heavier spool causes it to spin faster then the lure and line is traveling = backlash.
Loop_Dad reply :
On 11/18/2013 at 1:11 AM, iabass8 said:the majority of people that think they are "bombing a lure 70+ yards" are ridiculously over estimating casting distance. don't sweat it.
I guess I was other way around. I thought I was casting around 40-50 yard range, until I run out of the line with Citica fully spooled with 65 braid in ideal set up. It should hold 80 yards, so I must be casting 80+. Anyhow, I don't like I run of the line and considering if I can get by with 50lbs. I fish very different type of water with limited number of gear, so the balancing and getting by with what I have is the way of my fishing life.
Loop_Dad reply :
On 11/18/2013 at 5:17 AM, aprw1 said:This forum is about the furthest casting low profile reel used by "you". The tatula is the furthest baitcasting reel I have ever used. By far. I have not used many other high end daiwa reels, so I don't know how far some of them cast, but this reel definitely outcast a zillion with most lures..
I'm on the market for another reel and you got my attention. Are you referring to the Type-R? Does your comparison include any Shimanos?
new2BC4bass reply :
There is a thread on tackletour asking the same question. May be another one on this forum as well. Wouldn't doubt it. Most of the reels cited as the longest casting reels are out of my price range. Previously I would have said my personal longest cast was with a 50th Anniversary Zillion, 12# mono and Zillion Flip and Pitch rod. However, this past spring I was fishing in tidal water using a 3/4 oz. spoon on a 7' MHF Jupiter with an STX-L spooled with 40# braid. This combo was slinging that spoon out there quite a ways. Maybe even further than the Zillion because that cast had been made with a 3/4 oz. spinnerbait....not the most aerodynamic lure out there.
I feel I get nearly identical distances with most of my reels under typical fishing conditions. Three of my Daiwa reels get a little better than the average: the 50th Zillion, a Purple Alphas (both stock) and a supertuned and upgraded TD-Z 105H. Surprisingly, a Trion seems to do just as well with a cleaning by Mike of DVT, and it is on a rod only 6'10" long....a HF Quantum. Its heavier spool isn't suppose to do as well as a light spool, but the reel doesn't seem to know that. 
EDIT: I think a Tatula Type R is a must over the winter. These reels are getting reviews too good to let one pass me by.
aavery2 reply :
On 11/18/2013 at 8:48 AM, War Eagle 44 said:Well, your statement isn't exactly 100% true. Yes the lighter spools will cast light lures better but when you get up to the 3/4 oz and heavier range a heavier spool will cast farther, simple physics.
As to the original topic, the farthest casting reel I've used is a Calais DC. Non-DC reel is a Chronarch 101B that I've upgraded with different spool bearings and performed a complete polish on. Also have the lightest brake blocks (clear) Shimano offers and I've made a modification to them as well. I actually have 3 different color brakes, clear, smoke, and green, on the spool so I can fine tune for any condition.
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Good point, but it is not just a simple matter of total weight, it is actually how the weight is distribtuted. Weight on the outer edge of a rotational mass has greater moment of innertia than if is located near the center of the mass. This makes a spool that is weighted on outside edge slower to start but once it is moving it has the potential to store some energy and keep rotating better than a spool that has its weight closer to center mass. Better for casting heavier baits. Spools that are light and have the majority of their weight near center of mass are faster to start but do not store as much energy and stop sooner, better for light baits.
The other factor is how the breaking is implemented, not all magforce z is the same. Spring stiffness and inducter design are two factors that determine how much and at what speed the inductor will engage the magnets and how much affect it will have. Spools like the RCS custom spools often found in Daiwa type R reels are tuned so that the inductor design and spool weight distribution work together to provide 6he best performance. Stock spools are not nearly as effective at this.
Great discussion so far, hope it stays positive.
WRB reply :
What isn't well known is Shimano was making precision bicycle parts when Lew Childre contracted them to manufacture his BB1 Speed Spool low profile baitcasting reels. We have the BB1 reel to thank for today's Shimano reels. Daiwa and Shimano make fabulous high end baitcasting reels and I own both brands, you can't go wrong with either brand. Ardent makes a very good and reliable baitcaster but not in the same class as the higher end reels. The Ardent I own is like the Energizer bunny, it keeps on going with little maintenance. Over the years my TD-X 103/105HiA's have been very low maintenance ounce the drags and bearings were upgraded. Shimano reels always had better drags and crank handles than Daiwa, casted very well, just needed more tender loving care tp preform at a high level.
If your budget is in the $150 to $200 price range, Daiwa Tatula 100 or R 100 should perform good for several years, time will tell.
It was Daiwa that retired my legacy 2500c's and 4500C's, Shimano Curado's were good reel, just higher maintenance back in the 90's. Shimsno Calcutta 300 arevmy swimbait reels, great casting reel and bulletproof.
Tom
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