How Do People Fish With Mono.... 2024
S Hovanec reply :
.....and straight floro?
I've been using braid and floro leader for a long time. Yesterday, my leader got too chewed up by zebra mussels and I didn't feel like retying, so I grabbed my spybait rod with 6# floro on it. I tied on a dropshot and proceeded to fish. Every time I hooked up, it felt like I was using a rubber band as line. Of the 7 hookups I had on it, 3 came unbuttoned half way to the boat and one right at the boat. I've never had that problem with braid.
I did manage to keep a 4#er buttoned up long enough to get it in the boat.
*Hootie reply :
I don't believe it's ever been done before.
Hootie
Turtle135 reply :
Nice smallie!
I believe using mono or flouro or braid is something of an acquired skill. If you fish with mono like I do 95% of the time you develop a feel for how to keep those fish buttoned up (the right hook set, the right amount of tension). Each line has it's own strengths and weaknesses. Each shines in the correct environment (cover, water clarity, etc) and presentation type.
S Hovanec reply :
On 6/25/2015 at 9:19 PM, *Hootie said:I don't believe it's ever been done before.
Hootie
I can't believe I used to do it that way too. It only took me 6 years to lose my mono fishing skills.
FryDog62 reply :
Remember that fluorocarbon has more stretch than braid or even mono and that's why its like setting the hook with a rubber band. I'd recommend a main line of Yo-Zuri Hybrid, which is not only low stretch but highly abrasion resistant and as good as any line with zebra mussels present. If you prefer a line with a sink rate try a main line of Sniper, still stretches more than mono or co-poly but less than other fluorocarbon lines.
Catt reply :
ROFLMAO 
I've 30 bass over 10 lbs across 5 states in some gnarliest cover ever, every one was caught on Berkley Big Game 15# test.
Tim Kelly reply :
You have to amke adjustments to fish properly with any type of line. Going from braid to mono is a big adjustment, but once you've made it they both catch fish and both have advantages.
S Hovanec reply :
I'm not looking for a new line, just making an observation as to how much of a difference there is. I was just too lazy to retie my leader and the floro rod was strung up in the locker. I can't see me using anything other than braid except on my crank, jerkbait, topwater and spybait rods.
deep reply :
Surely you're joking, Mr. .... Hovanec.
ColdSVT reply :
Cast, reel, repeat...simple
S Hovanec reply :
Joking about what?
DTack reply :
They both seem to do ok for me.
deep reply :
On 6/25/2015 at 10:25 PM, S Hovanec said:Joking about what?
It's a reference to this book.
http://www.amazon.com/Surely-Feynman-Adventures-Curious-Character/dp/0393316041
the reel ess reply :
I use mono on bigger, fast moving treble baits and topwaters. The mono I use is 15# Berkley Big Game. It's only on 2 baitcasters.
I have 2 spin combos with Fireline and I just converted my T-rig, Pitching, Frog, etc. baitcasting combo to 50# PowerPro but I haven't used it yet. If I discover it needs a leader, I'll worry about that then.
HoosierHawgs reply :
This. I have no problem keeping fish buttoned with Nylon line on 95% of my lures. Braid and fluorocarbon have their uses, and they fill specific niches for me.On 6/25/2015 at 9:20 PM, Turtle135 said:Nice smallie!
I believe using mono or flouro or braid is something of an acquired skill. If you fish with mono like I do 95% of the time you develop a feel for how to keep those fish buttoned up (the right hook set, the right amount of tension). Each line has it's own strengths and weaknesses. Each shines in the correct environment (cover, water clarity, etc) and presentation type.
WRB reply :
The idea mono line stretches like a rubber band is false. Every line, including braid, will reach it's yield strength and elongate or stretch some percentage until it breaks. If the material has high memory strength, like spring steel or is elastic like rubber, it may elongate and return to its original length.
If you are using 6 lb mono or FC line and apply 50% of the tensile strength or 3 lbs, the line will yield and begin to stretch, however your drag should be set at 1/3 the line strength or 2 lbs using 6 lb line. Setting drags at 50% line strength is risky.
The braid being 15 lb test for example has much higher tensile properties than nylon or FC and may not start to yield until it reaches 75% of it's tensile strength or 10 lbs for example, the leader will break long before the stronger braid reaches it's yield strength
I set my bait casting and spinning reels at 1/3rd the FC or mono line strength and rarely loose bass because of getting good hook sets and controlling the bass.
Tom
Bruce424 reply :
Very carefully.
Hogsticker reply :
There is mono, and there is Sunline Defier. I prefer the latter. Everything else gets braid. Fluoro? I'm good. One rig spooled with it and it stresses me out every time I pick it up. Keeping the fish buttoned up has more to do with the rod than the line imo
Ozark_Basser reply :
I understand your situation. The slack line sensitivity is the only reason I use straight fluoro in deep water for bottom baits. Shallow water gets braid with a leader. Until they make a braid that sinks as fast as fluoro, I'll always use straight fluoro for deep water.
HoosierHawgs reply :
Led coreOn 6/26/2015 at 12:21 AM, Ozark_Basser said:I understand your situation. The slack line sensitivity is the only reason I use straight fluoro in deep water for bottom baits. Shallow water gets braid with a leader. Until they make a braid that sinks as fast as fluoro, I'll always use straight fluoro for deep water.
Raul reply :
Caught with "rubber":
junyer357 reply :
Braid for me is only for spinning reels and frogs. Floro for jigs n worms and winter or deep cranks and mono for everything else.
Chris at Tech reply :
On 6/25/2015 at 9:03 PM, S Hovanec said:.....and straight floro?
I've been using braid and floro leader for a long time. Yesterday, my leader got too chewed up by zebra mussels and I didn't feel like retying, so I grabbed my spybait rod with 6# floro on it. I tied on a dropshot and proceeded to fish. Every time I hooked up, it felt like I was using a rubber band as line. Of the 7 hookups I had on it, 3 came unbuttoned half way to the boat and one right at the boat. I've never had that problem with braid.
I did manage to keep a 4#er buttoned up long enough to get it in the boat.
You're probably using a crappy rod
*Hootie reply :
That's crappie rod...lol.
Hootie
K_Mac reply :
Every time I fish very long with braid I ask myself a similar question, "Why would anyone use this stuff when quality fluorocarbon, copolymer, and mono lines are available?" To each his own...
FlipSide reply :
On 6/25/2015 at 10:22 PM, ColdSVT said:Cast, reel, repeat...simple
You forgot getting it from the spool to the reel lol
HoosierHawgs reply :
On 6/26/2015 at 2:00 AM, Raul said:Caught with "rubber":
curtis9 reply :
On 6/26/2015 at 4:33 AM, K_Mac said:Every time I fish very long with braid I ask myself a similar question, "Why would anyone use this stuff when quality fluorocarbon, copolymer, and mono lines are available?" To each his own...
Agreed. I hate using braid.
the reel ess reply :
On 6/26/2015 at 4:33 AM, K_Mac said:Every time I fish very long with braid I ask myself a similar question, "Why would anyone use this stuff when quality fluorocarbon, copolymer, and mono lines are available?" To each his own...
I tried braid years ago on BC equipment and didn't care for it because it casts light lures easier due to the thinner diameter while enjoying the benefits of a higher pound test line. It's extremely abrasion resistant, doesn't seem to twist and has virtually zero stretch. I know I've lost fewer fish because of it. But, as you say, to each his own.
HoosierHawgs reply :
"Extremely abrasion resistant." Hmmm....On 6/26/2015 at 6:16 AM, the reel ess said:I tried braid years ago on BC equipment and didn't care for it because it casts light lures easier due to the thinner diameter while enjoying the benefits of a higher pound test line. It's extremely abrasion resistant, doesn't seem to twist and has virtually zero stretch. I know I've lost fewer fish because of it. But, as you say, to each his own.
jbsoonerfan reply :
On 6/26/2015 at 6:16 AM, the reel ess said:I tried braid years ago on BC equipment and didn't care for it because it casts light lures easier due to the thinner diameter while enjoying the benefits of a higher pound test line. It's extremely abrasion resistant, doesn't seem to twist and has virtually zero stretch. I know I've lost fewer fish because of it. But, as you say, to each his own.
Ever fished a t-rig on a rocky bottom with braid? Extremely abrasion resistant?
curtis9 reply :
Abrasion is the biggest issue with braid. It frays when used in rocky environments.
Catt reply :
Any time y'all have a fish come unbuttoned or miss one on the hook set ya always have to blame the tackle!
It can never be operator error!
the reel ess reply :
On 6/26/2015 at 7:03 AM, jbsoonerfan said:Ever fished a t-rig on a rocky bottom with braid? Extremely abrasion resistant?
Ouch! Where I fish is mostly weed-choked so I have not noticed abrasion. But have you guys tried Fireline? I've been using the same 17# line all this season. I only cut off a couple inches when i tie on another lure. It hasn't broken once and I've landed some good fish. The one failure with it was a snap that straightened out. I can tell you it's more resistant than 17# Vanish floro from my experience.
Heron reply :
On 6/25/2015 at 9:50 PM, FryDog62 said:Remember that fluorocarbon has more stretch than braid or even mono and that's why its like setting the hook with a rubber band. I'd recommend a main line of Yo-Zuri Hybrid, which is not only low stretch but highly abrasion resistant and as good as any line with zebra mussels present. If you prefer a line with a sink rate try a main line of Sniper, still stretches more than mono or co-poly but less than other fluorocarbon lines.
Wait......FC has more stretch than Mono? What?
Surfcaster reply :
On 6/26/2015 at 8:16 AM, Catt said:Any time y'all have a fish come unbuttoned or miss one on the hook set ya always have to blame the tackle!
It can never be operator error!
That is why I always use cheap, worn out line and equipment. When I outfish everybody, it can't be the tackle it must be my great fishing skills. When I get skunked, it is always because of the sub-standard tackle. Which I am forced to use because the wife wants the money to go to more "home-improvement" purchases.
zachb34 reply :
Speaking on braids "abrasion resistance" I use it around bridge pilings and have had fish wrap me around them and never broke off. Most times it doesn't even fray on me . Could just be luck. I feel the 8 strand braids are pretty abrasion resistant, bit not so much the 4 strand braids. To each their own.
masterbass reply :
I only use mono for backing. It's braid w/leader or straight fluoro for me.
fishballer06 reply :
On 6/26/2015 at 8:17 AM, the reel ess said:But have you guys tried Fireline? I've been using the same 17# line all this season. I only cut off a couple inches when i tie on another lure.
But what color is your Fireline now?
I haven't used fireline in probably 12+ years, but it always went from "Smoke" to snow white after the first outing.
BrianinMD reply :
Got to love the "whoever doesn't use what I use is wrong" post.
If it works for you great, does not mean everyone will like it.
the reel ess reply :
On 6/26/2015 at 9:30 PM, fishballer06 said:But what color is your Fireline now?
I haven't used fireline in probably 12+ years, but it always went from "Smoke" to snow white after the first outing.
It's still black, but a little faded looking.
the reel ess reply :
On 6/26/2015 at 9:30 PM, fishballer06 said:But what color is your Fireline now?
I haven't used fireline in probably 12+ years, but it always went from "Smoke" to snow white after the first outing.
Still black, but faded a bit.
SenkoGuru reply :
Different strokes for different folks and before Hootie answers me.....(that's what she said)
wnspain reply :
On 6/26/2015 at 6:16 AM, the reel ess said:I tried braid years ago on BC equipment and didn't care for it because it casts light lures easier due to the thinner diameter while enjoying the benefits of a higher pound test line. It's extremely abrasion resistant, doesn't seem to twist and has virtually zero stretch. I know I've lost fewer fish because of it. But, as you say, to each his own.
What? You tried braid years ago and didn't care for it because "it casts light lures easier due to the thinner diameter while enjoying the benefits of a higher pound test line. It's extremely abrasion resistant, doesn't seem to twist and has virtually zero stretch'. Am I missing something here? 
long island basser reply :
I like braid, I put that ***** on everything.
the reel ess reply :
On 6/27/2015 at 2:44 AM, wnspain said:What? You tried braid years ago and didn't care for it because "it casts light lures easier due to the thinner diameter while enjoying the benefits of a higher pound test line. It's extremely abrasion resistant, doesn't seem to twist and has virtually zero stretch'. Am I missing something here?
I accidentally cut out the middle of my post. I didn't like it on BC tackle because it always dug into the spool whenever I tightened up the line. And I couldn't break it. Had to cut it off sometimes way short because I was fishing deeper in a lake. Now I usually fish shallow enough to go get a lure that's hung up.
Part of the original post that I cutout was praising the virtues of Fireline vs plain braid. But I just bought some PowerPro to use for frogs, t-rigs and jigs. It looks a lot better than the old stuff I didn't like.
k3bass reply :
I use mono,fluorocarbon,co-poly and braid. They all outshine each other in certain conditions and with certain baits.
Hogsticker reply :
Fireline is not braid. It is fused. Thinner Fireline digs way to much for me. Stiff, wirey, and rough compared to a good 8 carrier braid. Braid is worthless if you can not eliminate all slack. Just comes down to the right tool for the task at hand imo.
d-camarena reply :
Ive caught most of my fish on berkley big game. But i also use flouro and braid. Big game is my all time favorite. I guess different thing work for different people
Shanes7614 reply :
On 6/25/2015 at 11:32 PM, WRB said:The idea mono line stretches like a rubber band is false. Every line, including braid, will reach it's yield strength and elongate or stretch some percentage until it breaks. If the material has high memory strength, like spring steel or is elastic like rubber, it may elongate and return to its original length.
If you are using 6 lb mono or FC line and apply 50% of the tensile strength or 3 lbs, the line will yield and begin to stretch, however your drag should be set at 1/3 the line strength or 2 lbs using 6 lb line. Setting drags at 50% line strength is risky.
The braid being 15 lb test for example has much higher tensile properties than nylon or FC and may not start to yield until it reaches 75% of it's tensile strength or 10 lbs for example, the leader will break long before the stronger braid reaches it's yield strength
I set my bait casting and spinning reels at 1/3rd the FC or mono line strength and rarely loose bass because of getting good hook sets and controlling the bass.
Tom
The braid being 15 lb test for example has much higher tensile properties than nylon or FC and may not start to yield until it reaches 75% of it's tensile strength or 10 lbs for example, the leader will break long before the stronger braid reaches it's yield strength
Wouldn't 75% of 15lb test be closer to 11.25lbs? Setting drag at 10lbs would be 66%. How often are you using a scale to measure your drag? You would need to use a scale multiple times throughout the day to check due to mechanical changes your reel goes through during each outing due to temperature changes, drag material compression and swelling etc... Mono from what I have read can stretch up to 40%. Flouro about 25% and braid less then 5%.
the reel ess reply :
On 6/27/2015 at 1:39 PM, Hogsticker said:Fireline is not braid. It is fused. Thinner Fireline digs way to much for me. Stiff, wirey, and rough compared to a good 8 carrier braid. Braid is worthless if you can not eliminate all slack. Just comes down to the right tool for the task at hand imo.
I know. That's why I said Fireline vs plain braid. Although I have serious doubts as to how "fused" it is. This is the end of it in the pic. You can separate the strands if you try. Fused means thermally bonded. I've had this discussion with another guy on here who basically told me I was wrong until I showed him the pic. 
Then he told me I got a bad batch or an old batch or something else entirely. It was brand new in a Cabela's that was just constructed.
I like Fireline 17# for spinning and have it on 2 combos. I believe 17# was recently discontinued and that diameter is now 20#. That's why it says right on the package "for spinning". Lays better on a spinning spool. I've been using it since this calendar year started. No breaks, no twists and lots of good hooksets. Meanwhile, my buddy is fighting twists on mono every time we fish together and will dump you out of the boat with his hookset if you're not careful. But...to each his own. If you're uncomfortable with it, you'll have no confidence in it.
aqualkinbush reply :
I fish fluro exclusively 8lb on my spinning reel and 12 to 20b on my bait caster depending on what I'm doing.. I use pline or seagaur lines they are thinner than other brands I've tried and cast for miles.. I've hauled whole downed trees to shore on the pline 20lb so it's strong as hell too.
Shanes7614 reply :
On 6/27/2015 at 10:49 PM, aqualkinbush said:I fish fluro exclusively 8lb on my spinning reel and 12 to 20b on my bait caster depending on what I'm doing.. I use pline or seagaur lines they are thinner than other brands I've tried and cast for miles.. I've hauled whole downed trees to shore on the pline 20lb so it's strong as hell too.
Whole downed trees??? I guess I better get some to use as a tow strap if I get stuck in the mud.
WPCfishing reply :
My biggest disappointment was Seajunk Invisx.. I've been using P-Line CX and had great success. I'm also using Sufix 832 and Kast King briad with a CX leader. Both are doing well for me.
Sufix Siege "camo" (color changes line qualities imo) on my crank bait rods has done well to.
A-Jay reply :
I find that Super long casts with large gauge wire single hook baits using mono, co-poly or fluorocarbon to be problematic.
I also find fishing in & around, zebra mussels, cement piling & rocks using braid to be problematic.
Repeated placing heavy stain on a spool of fluorocarbon eventually became problematic.
Managing it all is part of the fun.
A-Jay
Lucky Craft Man reply :
On 6/25/2015 at 10:04 PM, Catt said:ROFLMAO
I've 30 bass over 10 lbs across 5 states in some gnarliest cover ever, every one was caught on Berkley Big Game 15# test.
I would bet those fish weren't caught in over 40' of water. I like to use straight fluoro for crankbaits, jerkbaits, spinnerbaits, etc., but dropshotting in the Great Lakes, a braid mainline really offers an advantage.
scaleface reply :
My expierence with braid " this was long ago " is they dont cast as far as mono. Water gets inside the strands and it sprays out on the guides , slowing it down , when cast. Maybe they have fixed that . I did not like the stuff and after sliceing my index finger several times on hooksets ,I swore off it. I'm set in the style i fish and would have to change the way I hold a rod if I were to use braid .
S Hovanec reply :
Maybe rubber band wasn't a proper analogy, but it gets my point across and compared to the braid I have been using, seemed pretty fitting. I recall reading somewhere in reviews or tests that mono and floro stretch somewhere between 25-30%, depending on brand.
Let's use my 6# spool and the 30% number. If it breaks at 30%, then at proper set drag of 2#, it should stretch about 10%. So, with 50' of line out, that means it would stretch 5'. Pretty significant, no? I run about a 18' leader. Was more like 15' that day, so, 10% stretch on that leader would be 1.5'. IMO, that's enough to make the difference between getting a hookset and not with the same force applied.
To add a little more to back up my theory, the only fish that stayed hooked were ones that bit directly under the boat in 15'-20' of water. Basically, I had the same amount of floro out as I normally do when I use braid + leader. The fish that came unhooked were long casts away from the boat.
powerduster reply :
i'm not sure i buy into that, because as you say, 5 feet of stretch is quite significant. Perhaps on a snag it could happen, but not setting the hook on a fish. Just my thought.On 6/29/2015 at 9:23 AM, S Hovanec said:Maybe rubber band wasn't a proper analogy, but it gets my point across and compared to the braid I have been using, seemed pretty fitting. I recall reading somewhere in reviews or tests that mono and floro stretch somewhere between 25-30%, depending on brand.
Let's use my 6# spool and the 30% number. If it breaks at 30%, then at proper set drag of 2#, it should stretch about 10%. So, with 50' of line out, that means it would stretch 5'. Pretty significant, no? I run about a 18' leader. Was more like 15' that day, so, 10% stretch on that leader would be 1.5'. IMO, that's enough to make the difference between getting a hookset and not with the same force applied.
To add a little more to back up my theory, the only fish that stayed hooked were ones that bit directly under the boat in 15'-20' of water. Basically, I had the same amount of floro out as I normally do when I use braid + leader. The fish that came unhooked were long casts away from the boat.
Shanes7614 reply :
On 6/27/2015 at 2:44 AM, wnspain said:What? You tried braid years ago and didn't care for it because "it casts light lures easier due to the thinner diameter while enjoying the benefits of a higher pound test line. It's extremely abrasion resistant, doesn't seem to twist and has virtually zero stretch'. Am I missing something here?
Was trying to figure this statement out myself. I'm a bit perplexed as to how he doesn't care for it yet seems to like using it because of the qualities he explains.
Catt reply :
On 6/29/2015 at 12:01 AM, Lucky Craft Man said:I would bet those fish weren't caught in over 40' of water. I like to use straight fluoro for crankbaits, jerkbaits, spinnerbaits, etc., but dropshotting in the Great Lakes, a braid mainline really offers an advantage.
Maybe not 40' but 25-30' & I highly doubt any of the great lakes have any standing timber with matted Hydrilla & Milfoil!
Every single bit of data I've read on this subject the research was conducted in the same manner. The line is attached on one end to an immovable object, the other end is attached to a mechanical device that applied pressure until the line breaks, and the distance of stretch measured.
The problem is how does this apply to the real world?
How does one factor in the amount of flex found in the fishin rod?
How does one factor in the size of the fish?
BASSPATROL247 reply :
Ive used mono for 35+ yrs and still like it better than fluro,braid etc..in most cases.
*Hootie reply :
On 7/1/2015 at 7:51 PM, BASSPATROL247 said:Ive used mono for 35+ yrs and still like it better than fluro,braid etc..in most cases.
I know I'm off topic here, but you say you have been using mono for 35+ years, and you're only 39 yrs. old?
....WOW!
Hootie
BASSPATROL247 reply :
On 7/2/2015 at 5:35 AM, *Hootie said:I know I'm off topic here, but you say you have been using mono for 35+ years, and you're only 39 yrs. old?
....WOW!
Hootie
They say ive been running with a pole in my hand since i was 3 yrs old..ive forgot more about fishing than i can remember lol!
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