I'm going to try to switch to fluoro again this upcoming season from braid. What fluoro would you recommend and at what strength (for jigs/texas rigs and cranking)? I fish docks and wood (which is the common cover where I fish) and am really worreid about breaking off fish.
I love the feel of braid but want to see if using fluro will make a difference. Any help is appreciated.
Try some Seagaur Abrasix!
Jeff
I like Sunline.
Seaguar.
I like seaguar or berkley 100% fluro
I know I will take a hit for saying this since its a brand/product a lot of people on here really like. I would avoid Seaguar. InvizX is soft and easy to handle on spinning gear but had terrible abrasion resistance and had more stretch then I really cared for. Red Label was ok. Nothing to write home about. It was a marginal improvement over InvizX but not much. AbraizX was better as far as abrasion resistance goes but I still felt it had more stretch and I still wouldn't recommend it.
You can spend a lot of money on fluoro but I don't see that as being very cost effective from most people. I prefer BPS XPS fluoro. Its fairly inexpensive and has a lot better abrasion resistance and seems to have less stretch. Its soft enough that it works well on both spinning and casting reels which makes it good for somebody that doesn't have a lot of experience with fluoro. Since switching to XPS fluoro I have been much happier then when I used Seaguar.
On 2/28/2013 at 2:48 AM, 00 mod said:Try some Seagaur Abrasix!
Jeff
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On 2/28/2013 at 2:48 AM, 00 mod said:Try some Seagaur Abrasix!
Jeff
x2 on Seaguar Abrazx
I'm a braid guy and I hated invizx. It was very soft and handled great but it felt like I was fishing with a rubber band. I currently have spooled yozuri hybrid. I haven't actually fished it yet, but it feels much better casting in the yard and catching some grass patches and weeds ha ha.
berkley 100 % flouro.never had a problem with it
Seagaur Invisx > Abrazx
Sunline sniper fc or Berkley 100% fc
Seagar Invisix
Mike
Anyone have any experience with that Spiderwire Flouro-Braid? Seems like it would give the best of both worlds to a guy that uses braid but wants some of the advantages that comes with FC -- well, assuminig it lives up to the manufacturer's claims.
On 2/28/2013 at 8:11 AM, SudburyBasser said:Anyone have any experience with that Spiderwire Flouro-Braid? Seems like it would give the best of both worlds to a guy that uses braid but wants some of the advantages that comes with FC -- well, assuminig it lives up to the manufacturer's claims.
Tried it and don't like it. It unravels on itself very easily.
P-Line Halo in 20lb for jigs/texas rigs when the cover is heavy, 15lb for light to moderate, 15lb as well for shallow squarebill crankbaits, 12lb for mid to deep diving crankbaits. Sunline Sniper FC and Shooter are also extremley good.
I don't get the Invizx stretching too much. It might stretch a little more than some other fc lines but the whole idea that fc has almost no stretch isn't exactly true either. Some fc stretch like mono and some has a bit less. None of them have less compared to braid. Some people read one tackletour artice and their brain is stuck on it. Invisx isn't a rubber band, braid isn't steel, you can break an ugly stik, and that delicious steak you ate while on vacation in europe might just have been donkey meat.
Make this easy on yourself and go with seaguar tatsu and you won't ever have to worry about whether you made the right choice or not.
Havent used Tatsu, but the other seaguar FC I have used had a lot of memory fast and didnt last long on the spool. I found that Halo works best for me. Usually have to respool every 2 months with Halo, where other lines are 2 or 3 weeks between respooling.
BPS XPS no doubt! Strongest i have used yet, casts well too..
I'm not going to recommend any of the products, but my personal opinion is try some of the cheaper versions or a copoly ... fluoro can be expensive when you might be satisfied having something less expensive. I would hate to spend money on an expensive FC that I would never use again.
I really appreciate all the comments. I've been stuck on braid only for a long time. I still love it but want to branch out a bit as I get a little more serious. Mainly I want to see if I catch/land a significantly higher number of fish. I'm going to force myself to use FC for atleast 2 months-hopefully all season. I may rig up a different brand on both setups as well. I'm just hoping to use a good product so I don't give up on FC too soon.
Thanks again.
On 2/28/2013 at 1:48 PM, katmandew said:Havent used Tatsu, but the other seaguar FC I have used had a lot of memory fast and didnt last long on the spool. I found that Halo works best for me. Usually have to respool every 2 months with Halo, where other lines are 2 or 3 weeks between respooling.
Have you tried Seaguar InvizX, this line is widely known for its handling properties?
Also, one of the reasons I mentioned Tatsu is because of its excellent longevity. The line far outlasts other fluorocarbons life-spans. And if you say split it up into four 50 yard spools, you are only paying about $10 each time.
On 3/1/2013 at 1:22 AM, PotomacBassin said:I'm not going to recommend any of the products, but my personal opinion is try some of the cheaper versions or a copoly ... fluoro can be expensive when you might be satisfied having something less expensive. I would hate to spend money on an expensive FC that I would never use again.
You are better off using copoly if you are going to buy cheap fluorocarbon. Cheap fluorocarbon is just a terrible experience. I would go with no less than mid-grade fluoro Seaguar invizx, Bass Pro XPS, Sunline FC Sniper, and others that members have mentioned.
Cheap fluorocarbon will end up making you hate fluorocarbon.
On 3/1/2013 at 4:29 AM, NE_Frost said:I really appreciate all the comments. I've been stuck on braid only for a long time. I still love it but want to branch out a bit as I get a little more serious. Mainly I want to see if I catch/land a significantly higher number of fish. I'm going to force myself to use FC for atleast 2 months-hopefully all season. I may rig up a different brand on both setups as well. I'm just hoping to use a good product so I don't give up on FC too soon.
Thanks again.
Many people have given good suggestions of lines you should try. I recommend you do some searches to find out the pros/cons of each.You have the right mindset. Many people give up on fluoro because of that very reason (in red). Go out and get yourself a nice spool, back it with some mono, tie a uni-uni or alberto knot to connect it to your backing, and apply KVD L&L on the fluorocarbon as you spool it up. This will save you money, make the line easier to handle, and give you a proper representation of the benefits of fluorocarbon. Such as....
Slack line sensitivity
Good handling in windy conditions
Line visibility
Abrasion Resistance
No belly on the water
It sinks (don't use it for floating applications)
No line digging
Overall more consistent feel in all conditions not just tight lined conditions.
I respectfully disagree with skeletor on cheaper FC. I use stren flurocast and like it a lot. The biggest thing about people not liking FC is that try expect it to cast like mono. Well thats not going to happen. I'm not saying all cheap FC are good. But you may find that you like a cheaper one better than a higher grade or mid grade one. But you should make the decision for yourself and everyone is entitled to their opinions.
On 3/1/2013 at 7:05 PM, PotomacBassin said:I respectfully disagree with skeletor on cheaper FC. I use stren flurocast and like it a lot. The biggest thing about people not liking FC is that try expect it to cast like mono. Well thats not going to happen. I'm not saying all cheap FC are good. But you may find that you like a cheaper one better than a higher grade or mid grade one. But you should make the decision for yourself and everyone is entitled to their opinions.
No worries Potomac! Everyone is certainly entitled to their opinions, and preferences vary by individual. I did not mean in any way to undermine your opinion and I apologize if I came across in such a manner. I actually agree with your point on price. If I found a $10 line that fishes like tatsu I would be all over it. Maybe Stren Fluorocast is a diamond in the rough? I've never fished it.
I personally had to climb the ladder in quality of fluorocarbons to find one that actually fished and handled how I wanted it to. I started off buying the cheap stuff, hated it, went to braid, gave more expensive fluoro a chance and now it is my line of choice. Also, I've read numerous threads of individuals buying the cheaper brands of fluoro and having countless issues of terrible manageability, breaking off on hooksets, low abrasion resistance, and very short longevity. I have yet to see a thread where someone complains about these problems with Seaguar Tatsu.
As far as casting goes, I actually prefer casting fluoro over mono. For me, mono absorbs water which causes it to bloat which makes it more difficult to cast and easier influenced by the wind. But that is just my experience.
I've gone with using BP's fluorocarbon. Is strong and so far seems to have less memory than I've had with others.
I know I'm going to take flak for this, but I bought a spool of 20# Berkely Vanish on sale the other day. So far I've just been using it for a leader and time will tell. If I don't have any issues, at 10 bucks it could be a good deal
It's all good skeletor. I've also heard that FC is made at very few factories in the world and some of FC u buy are the same as other ones that may cost more. That's all heresay though.
17 lb. Berkeley 100% Fluorocarbon
Never breaks, Ultra Sensitive
On 3/1/2013 at 8:20 PM, PotomacBassin said:It's all good skeletor. I've also heard that FC is made at very few factories in the world and some of FC u buy are the same as other ones that may cost more. That's all heresay though.
I've also heard that, especially some suspicions about where BPS XPS fluoro is created (complimentary to a more expensive product is the theory). Of course we would never find out for sure because it would severely change the market. I believe what happens is that some part of the manufacturing process occurs at the same location with some of these companies. Say for instance resins are made at the same location and shipped off, or they could just grade their lines based on their QC and sell off the factory seconds or what not. This is just pure speculation as you mentioned, It would be nice to know though!
I do know with Seaguar, they control every aspect of their line production. Thus, line diameter's are accurate to almost 1 millionth of an inch which is very impressive. I can not think of another company that does this. I'm not trying to sound like a Seaguar Junkie, I just respect their QC and wish some other companies would follow suit. Competition is good when it comes to prices and in the American Market Tatsu does not have any equivalent competitors that I know of. Sure there is Shooter and Toray Superhard Upgrade, but these lines are very stiff (but more sensitive). Great thing about tatsu is that it basically has all the properties you would want in a line in one. The only part that's not at the highest level is sensitivity, but it is still a sensitive line.
If someone could chime in and edit some of the information that I wrote It would be appreciated. I am always down to learn as much information as possible.
I do know with Seaguar, they control every aspect of their line production. Thus, line diameter's are accurate to almost 1 millionth of an inch which is very impressive. I can not think of another company that does this. I'm not trying to sound like a Seaguar Junkie, I just respect their QC and wish some other companies would follow suit. Competition is good when it comes to prices and in the American Market Tatsu does not have any equivalent competitors that I know of.
I think you will be very happy with InvizX on spinning tackle and AbrazX on baitcasting gear.
However, if the price is not prohibitive for you, no fluorocarbon beats Tatsu.
I prefer braid on spinning rods with a Florocarbon leader. I have not tried the high end Florocarbon's like Tatsu but I do well with BPS & Suffix which are in that mid priced category and use them on many of my baitcasting reels.
On 3/1/2013 at 7:05 PM, PotomacBassin said:I respectfully disagree with skeletor on cheaper FC. I use stren flurocast and like it a lot. The biggest thing about people not liking FC is that try expect it to cast like mono. Well thats not going to happen. I'm not saying all cheap FC are good. But you may find that you like a cheaper one better than a higher grade or mid grade one. But you should make the decision for yourself and everyone is entitled to their opinions.
I HATED Stren FC on my baitcaster never lost so many lures in my life, Stren FC it becomes weak once its nicked or you get backlash and you create a tight crimp in the line. I now use it and Seaguar as my leader material and it does decent job as that. I want to try XPS FC heard many good things about it..
I used Vanish when it first came out and did not like it. I then used XPS, Seaguar Invisx and Red Label, Berkley 100%. Last year I gave Vanish a try again due to last minute availability and never had any problems with it like the early version. This year I am back to XPS, never did have any problems with that either. The Bass Pro Classic deal makes it a great price. We have Zebra Mussle problems here, this line seems to be the most abrasion resistant compared to the others I have used. I use 4# to 15# depending on what variety of fish I am chasing.
sunline super fc sniper in 12# test for crankin and 14-20 for jigs and flippin.
On 2/28/2013 at 11:34 PM, DINK WHISPERER said:BPS XPS no doubt! Strongest i have used yet, casts well too..
I use BPS XPS floro as well
Seagaur Abrasix. I have put this on my trout rod and now on one of my bass rods to try. So far, so good.
Thanks again for all the replies-it really helps me narrow my research/decision. I really value the opinions of the actual users.