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fishing user avatarBrian6428 reply : 

Hey guys, I just finished reading Doug Hannon's book "Big Bass Magic". He says many things that go against conventional wisdom of bass fishing, mainly regarding big fish. I will reveal these after the survey is over. I would like to ask you guys a few questions about your PB Largemouth to help me compile data to prove or disprove Hannon's statements. Please copy and paste the questions with your answers.

 

How deep was the fish caught?

Did the lure contain rattles or have hinges?

Was the lure a natural color (brown, green) or was it an unnatural color (chartreuse, orange)?

If possible, what moon phase was your PB caught during?

 

 

Thanks for your answers,

 

Brian


fishing user avatarKevin22 reply : 

Will be interesting to see the results!

 

How deep was the fish caught? About 6 feet

Did the lure contain rattles or have hinges? No

Was the lure a natural color (brown, green) or was it an unnatural color (chartreuse, orange)? Black cherry (a very dark, almost black red)

If possible, what moon phase was your PB caught during? No idea. Caught 8/1/09 if you want to look it up 


fishing user avatarAmarley reply : 

How deep was the fish caught?- 3-4 ft

Did the lure contain rattles or have hinges?- No, 5"  soft plastic swimbait

Was the lure a natural color (brown, green) or was it an unnatural color (chartreuse, orange)?- White

If possible, what moon phase was your PB caught during? Full, during mid-afternoon light rain


fishing user avatarBrian6428 reply : 

Here is my reply:

 

How deep was the fish caught? 4 ft

Did the lure contain rattles or have hinges? Yes

Was the lure a natural color (brown, green) or was it an unnatural color (chartreuse, orange)? Natural

If possible, what moon phase was your PB caught during? N/A


fishing user avatarSPEEDBEAD. reply : 

 

How deep was the fish caught? Topwater but in 36 FOW

 

Did the lure contain rattles or have hinges? Yes

 

Was the lure a natural color (brown, green) or was it an unnatural color (chartreuse, orange)? Natural

 

If possible, what moon phase was your PB caught during? Super Moon ;)

 

 


fishing user avatarMCS reply : 

How deep was the fish caught?

1-2'

 

Did the lure contain rattles or have hinges?

No, but to be more specific it was a 4" senko after it boiled and missed a pop-r(rattles)

 

Was the lure a natural color (brown, green) or was it an unnatural color (chartreuse, orange)? senko was blue pearl w/ black and holo flake....pop-r was blue/holo sides and white belly(50th anniv)

 

If possible, what moon phase was your PB caught during? It was a 5/10/2013 So I think it is new moon


fishing user avatarNC_Bass6 reply : 

How deep was the fish caught? 5 ft


Did the lure contain rattles or have hinges? no, wacky rigged senko


Was the lure a natural color (brown, green) or was it an unnatural color (chartreuse, orange)? green pumpkin with purple fleck


If possible, what moon phase was your PB caught during? no idea



fishing user avatarWayne P. reply : 

How deep was the fish caught? 4-6 ft


Did the lure contain rattles or have hinges? Somewhat-- Chatterbait


Was the lure a natural color (brown, green) or was it an unnatural color (chartreuse, orange)? Natural


If possible, what moon phase was your PB caught during? First quarter



fishing user avatarhaydenf96 reply : 

How deep was the fish caught? 2 foot

Did the lure contain rattles or have hinges? No, spro frog

Was the lure a natural color (brown, green) or was it an unnatural color (chartreuse, orange)? Green with an orange underbelly

If possible, what moon phase was your PB caught during?

Look up the phase on 8/8/09


fishing user avatarGlenn reply : 

How deep was the fish caught? 2ft

Did the lure contain rattles or have hinges? No

Was the lure a natural color (brown, green) or was it an unnatural color (chartreuse, orange)?  White/Chartruese

If possible, what moon phase was your PB caught during?  1st Quarter


fishing user avatarmnbassman23 reply : 

How deep was the fish caught? 3ft

Did the lure contain rattles or have hinges? No (Jig)

Was the lure a natural color (brown, green) or was it an unnatural color (chartreuse, orange)? Natural

If possible, what moon phase was your PB caught during? Not sure, was caught on 8/10/12 if you want to check.

 


fishing user avatar00 mod reply : 

How deep was the fish caught? 20 fow

Did the lure contain rattles or have hinges? yes rattles

Was the lure a natural color (brown, green) or was it an unnatural color (chartreuse, orange)? unnatural/ citrus shad

If possible, what moon phase was your PB caught during? new moon


fishing user avatarMarkH024 reply : 

How deep was the fish caught? 2-3ft


Did the lure contain rattles or have hinges?No 


Was the lure a natural color (brown, green) or was it an unnatural color (chartreuse, orange)? Original ScumFrog White/Green


If possible, what moon phase was your PB caught during? No idea. 1st or 2nd week in September 2007



fishing user avatarChrisAW reply : 

How deep was the fish caught? -Less than one foot.

 

Did the lure contain rattles or have hinges? - No

 

 

Was the lure a natural color (brown, green) or was it an unnatural color (chartreuse, orange)? -Watermelon Candy craw / green jig

 

 

If possible, what moon phase was your PB caught during? - Not sure exactly what this all pertains to, but it says waning moon phase, 95% full.


fishing user avatarMrSwimJig reply : 

How deep was the fish caught? 2 feet

Did the lure contain rattles or have hinges? No

Was the lure a natural color (brown, green) or was it an unnatural color (chartreuse, orange)? White

If possible, what moon phase was your PB caught during? Waxing Crescent


fishing user avatarDwight Hottle reply : 

How deep was the fish caught?  -  20 fow

Did the lure contain rattles or have hinges?  -  no

Was the lure a natural color (brown, green) or was it an unnatural color (chartreuse, orange)?  -  unnatural white generic swim bait with red eyes

If possible, what moon phase was your PB caught during?  - new moon


fishing user avatarMichBassMan reply : 

How deep was the fish caught? 12'

Did the lure contain rattles or have hinges? No

Was the lure a natural color (brown, green) or was it an unnatural color (chartreuse, orange)? Black/red shad

If possible, what moon phase was your PB caught during? unknown


fishing user avatarwnybassman reply : 

6 to 7 feet deep

 

Wacky rigged Senko  (no rattles or hinges)

 

Watermelon with black flake  or smoke with blue and gold flake  (can't remember what  I was using at the time)

 

First quarter


fishing user avatarslonezp reply : 

Less than 3fow on live bait


fishing user avatarCrestliner2008 reply : 

How deep was the fish caught? - 6'

Did the lure contain rattles or have hinges? - No

Was the lure a natural color (brown, green) or was it an unnatural color (chartreuse, orange)? - Green Pumpkin

If possible, what moon phase was your PB caught during? - N/A


fishing user avatariabass8 reply : 

How deep was the fish caught? 2 ft


Did the lure contain rattles or have hinges? no(jig)


Was the lure a natural color (brown, green) or was it an unnatural color (chartreuse, orange)? natural (green pumpkin/blue craw)


If possible, what moon phase was your PB caught during?no idea. was caught in the first week of april 2 years ago.



fishing user avatarStren_g reply : 

How deep was the fish caught? 2-3 feet

Did the lure contain rattles or have hinges? Rattles, heddon tiny torpedo.

Was the lure a natural color (brown, green) or was it an unnatural color (chartreuse, orange)? Chart bottom, brown back.

If possible, what moon phase was your PB caught during? No idea.


fishing user avatarBassfishing375 reply : 

How deep was the fish caught? 3-4 feet

 

Did the lure contain rattles or have hinges? No

 

Was the lure a natural color (brown, green) or was it an unnatural color (chartreuse, orange)? 

Soft Plastic 6" Worm in Purple

 

If possible, what moon phase was your PB caught during? I caught it on July 23 2010, I looked it up and it was 3 days from a full moon.


fishing user avatarScott F reply : 

How deep was the fish caught?  3 feet


Did the lure contain rattles or have hinges?  NO


Was the lure a natural color (brown, green) or was it an unnatural color (chartreuse, orange)? Natural, live shiner


If possible, what moon phase was your PB caught during? 4 days after the full moon


fishing user avatarbasseditor reply : 

How deep was the fish caught? 7-8' (Next to a 20' drop off)

 

Did the lure contain rattles or have hinges? Yes, (6XD)

 

Was the lure a natural color (brown, green) or was it an unnatural color (chartreuse, orange)? Chartreuse/Blue back

 

If possible, what moon phase was your PB caught during? I can't recall (end of June 2012)


fishing user avatarBaconStealer303 reply : 

How deep was the fish caught? 6ft

Did the lure contain rattles or have hinges? Spinnerbait

Was the lure a natural color (brown, green) or was it an unnatural color (chartreuse, orange)? Natural

If possible, what moon phase was your PB caught during? N/A


fishing user avatarBigBassBarry reply : 

How deep was the fish caught? 20 foot of Water

Did the lure contain rattles or have hinges? Yes

Was the lure a natural color (brown, green) or was it an unnatural color (chartreuse, orange)?  Sooner Run (pumpkin green with red flake) biffle bug

If possible, what moon phase was your PB caught during? Caught 1st sunday june last year

 

11 lb 2 oz in my profile pic


fishing user avatarfstr385 reply : 

How deep was the fish caught? ~4`

 

Did the lure contain rattles or have hinges? no.

 

Was the lure a natural color (brown, green) or was it an unnatural color (chartreuse, orange)? motor oil/chart

 

If possible, what moon phase was your PB caught during? don't recall.


fishing user avatarJack Fate reply : 

How deep was the fish caught?  10 Ft


Did the lure contain rattles or have hinges?  YES Strike King 5XD Crankbait


Was the lure a natural color (brown, green) or was it an unnatural color (chartreuse, orange)? Unnatural--Chartreuse Sexy Shad


If possible, what moon phase was your PB caught during? New Moon 



fishing user avatarBrian6428 reply : 

Thanks for all the replies guys, I just finished totaling up the results so far, but feel free to keep replying, I will do a final total later. Here are the current results:

 

Average depth caught in: 7.135 fow

Rattles/hinges vs silent: 19 said no rattles, 7 said rattles were present

Natural vs unnatural colors: 19 natural colors, 7 unnatural colors

Moon phases: New moon: 6 First Quarter: 5 Full Moon: 7 Last Quarter: 2

 

So far Hannon has been spot on. I guess thats why they called him the bass professor! He said 8 fow was ideal for big bass, and the "good" depth for big bass ranged from 3 to 13 fow. He said big bass were more likely to hit a naturally colored silent lure, which matches up with the results so far. He said new and full moon were best for fishing, though the results here do not decisively show that. Hopefully more replies will help make the moon phases more conclusive.

 

Thanks, and feel free to keep replying, like I said I will do a final tally this weekend.

 

Brian


fishing user avatardeep reply : 
  On 7/18/2013 at 9:34 AM, Brian6428 said:

 He said 8 fow was ideal for big bass, and the "good" depth for big bass ranged from 3 to 13 fow.

 

I haven't read his book, so just a quick question. Did he mention that depth in relation to Florida reservoirs specifically or in general?


fishing user avatarBrian6428 reply : 
  On 7/18/2013 at 9:52 AM, deep said:

I haven't read his book, so just a quick question. Did he mention that depth in relation to Florida reservoirs specifically or in general?

That same question crossed my mind, too. He never mentioned depth relative to anything, however he did mention catching the fish that helped compile his data set in all sorts of bodies of water, from small ponds to huge lakes. I think that this would help level out the data, but I still think it would be different in california or other places with super deep bodies of water.

 

Brian


fishing user avatarAK-Jax86 reply : 

How deep was the fish caught?

4 feet

Did the lure contain rattles or have hinges?

No

Was the lure a natural color (brown, green) or was it an unnatural color (chartreuse, orange)?

Natural

If possible, what moon phase was your PB caught during?

Not sure


fishing user avatardeep reply : 
  On 7/18/2013 at 9:58 AM, Brian6428 said:

That same question crossed my mind, too. He never mentioned depth relative to anything, however he did mention catching the fish that helped compile his data set in all sorts of bodies of water, from small ponds to huge lakes. I think that this would help level out the data, but I still think it would be different in california or other places with super deep bodies of water.

 

Brian

 

Well, here's a tidbit from a book that I have read.

 

"Most of the time you will catch the majority of big bass in 10 feet or water or less, year-round. These big fish are up to feed. When they decide to eat, they have to abandon some of their avenues of escape." (Bill Siemantel/ Big Bass Zone)

 

While I personally don't agree 100% with it- having caught a few what I'd consider nice-sized fish on the top, the bottom and every depth in between, I still think that's an interesting observation.


fishing user avatarGADawgs reply : 

Fish was caught in about 8-10 feet of water

No hinges or rattles

Natural color - watermelon seed

Caught near the new moon


fishing user avatarTuckahoe Joe reply : 

How deep was the fish caught?     About 2 ft.

Did the lure contain rattles or have hinges?  No.  Jitterbug.

Was the lure a natural color (brown, green) or was it an unnatural color (chartreuse, orange)?   Black

If possible, what moon phase was your PB caught during?   Unsure


fishing user avatarWRB reply : 

Doug Hannon fished in Florida, natural lakes or low land reservirs for Florida strain LMB.

The data will reflect this regioanal area and bass species. Collecting random data for anglers that fish in deep structured lakes for bass species that differ form FLMB in shallow lakes will have little facts to base any theory on.

Moon phase is an importnat factor during pre spawn though post spawn as it affect tidal movement and animal activity levels, bass are animals. The moon also affects summer bass during night periods, bright moon light helps a sight feeding predator.

I have caught 5 FLMB over 17 lbs.

All were caught between Jan to March.

Depth of water between 15' to 20'

Water temperature between 58 to 65 degrees.

Lures was hair jig with pork trailer; colors brown, purple, black.

Time between 8A to 10A

Moon phase; within 3 days before or after the full moon.

Lake type; highland deep rocky structure.

Tom


fishing user avatarFish Chris reply : 

How deep was the fish caught? 8-10ft

 

Did the lure contain rattles or have hinges? No

 

Was the lure a natural color (brown, green) or was it an unnatural color (chartreuse, orange)? Natural Bluegill Pattern

 

If possible, what moon phase was your PB caught during? First quarter

 

Peace,

Fish

 

PS, ......but I agree with WRB. My answers would mean much, comparing them to bass in Florida.


fishing user avatarflippin and pitchin reply : 

6 FEET

 

YES  S Waver

 

Natural

 

I don't recall.


fishing user avatarTodd2 reply : 

How deep was the fish caught? 2 feet

Did the lure contain rattles or have hinges? No

Was the lure a natural color (brown, green) or was it an unnatural color (chartreuse, orange)?

White spinnerbait

If possible, what moon phase was your PB caught during? Don't remember.


fishing user avatarNice_Bass reply : 

How deep was the fish caught?     8-10 fow with around 2-3 feet visibility.

Did the lure contain rattles or have hinges?  yes- jig w/ rattle.

Was the lure a natural color (brown, green) or was it an unnatural color (chartreuse, orange)?   yes

If possible, what moon phase was your PB caught during?   new


fishing user avatarBankbeater reply : 

How deep was the fish caught?  3 to 4 feet

 

Did the lure contain rattles or have hinges? No

 

Was the lure a natural color (brown, green) or was it an unnatural color (chartreuse, orange)? Black

 

If possible, what moon phase was your PB caught during? N/A


fishing user avatarlmbfisherman reply : 

How deep was the fish caught? Between 5'-7'

Did the lure contain rattles or have hinges? No

Was the lure a natural color (brown, green) or was it an unnatural color (chartreuse, orange)? Brown

If possible, what moon phase was your PB caught during? 2 days before the full moon (Super Moon)


fishing user avatarZach Dunham reply : 

3-5 feet of water

No Rattles

Natural color

no idea on the moon phase, it was 4/4/11.


fishing user avatarbkohlman reply : 

How deep was the fish caught? 2-3ft


Did the lure contain rattles or have hinges? yes - (i guess)chatterbait


Was the lure a natural color (brown, green) or was it an unnatural color (chartreuse, orange)? black and blue


If possible, what moon phase was your PB caught during? no idea



fishing user avatarFrogFreak reply : 

How deep was the fish caught?


3-4 foot of water


Did the lure contain rattles or have hinges?


Nope, scumfrog


Was the lure a natural color (brown, green) or was it an unnatural color (chartreuse, orange)?


Natural, Black


If possible, what moon phase was your PB caught during?


Not sure on that one.



fishing user avatarFelix77 reply : 
  On 7/18/2013 at 3:35 AM, Brian6428 said:

Hey guys, I just finished reading Doug Hannon's book "Big Bass Magic". He says many things that go against conventional wisdom of bass fishing, mainly regarding big fish. I will reveal these after the survey is over. I would like to ask you guys a few questions about your PB Largemouth to help me compile data to prove or disprove Hannon's statements. Please copy and paste the questions with your answers.

 

How deep was the fish caught?

Did the lure contain rattles or have hinges?

Was the lure a natural color (brown, green) or was it an unnatural color (chartreuse, orange)?

If possible, what moon phase was your PB caught during?

 

 

Thanks for your answers,

 

Brian

Is it just for Largemouth bass?


fishing user avatarDwight Hottle reply : 
  On 7/19/2013 at 2:34 AM, Felix77 said:

Is it just for Largemouth bass?

 

 

I would like to ask you guys a few questions about your PB Largemouth to help me compile data to prove or disprove Hannon's statements. Please copy and paste the questions with your answers.


fishing user avatarFelix77 reply : 
  On 7/19/2013 at 2:38 AM, Dwight Hottle said:

I would like to ask you guys a few questions about your PB Largemouth to help me compile data to prove or disprove Hannon's statements. Please copy and paste the questions with your answers.

I read that ... just making sure.


fishing user avatarBasswhippa reply : 

14 YO son just caught and released his PB and it is being mounted at Lake Fork Taxidermy.  This was just last Saturday, and it weighed 8.35 pounds, length 24.5".  I could not be more proud.

 

Depth - 6' estimated

 

Lure/Hinge  3/4 ounce double willowleaf SB

 

Color -- Shad White with no trailer

 

Moon phase - within 3 days of new moon.

 

 

 

One has to remember when Doug Hannon wrote this that  a lot of people were preaching "you have to fish deep structure to succeed".   He basically said all things being equal, the bass is a shallow water sunfish and that is where you will find them, again all things equal.   It is relative and the bass is highly adaptive.   Their comfort zone is making short bursts to kill and eat meal expending the least effort as possible.   Where better than sitting behind a shallow stump or log waiting for a bluegill or shad to come by?   If you take away the deep man made lakes and focused on natural lakes and riverrun lakes, you will see what he says is mostly true and even if you add the deep lakes, it still is mostly true.


fishing user avatarsenile1 reply : 

How deep was the fish caught? 9 - 10 feet deep in 11 - 12 feet of water

Did the lure contain rattles or have hinges? No.  Lure was a spinnerbait. 

Was the lure a natural color (brown, green) or was it an unnatural color (chartreuse, orange)?  chartreuse/white

If possible, what moon phase was your PB caught during?  3rd Quarter


fishing user avatarMichiganFishing1997 reply : 

How deep was the fish caught? 3-4 feet

Did the lure contain rattles or have hinges? No

Was the lure a natural color (brown, green) or was it an unnatural color (chartreuse, orange)? Unnatural

If possible, what moon phase was your PB caught during? No idea, cought it about a week ago though.


fishing user avatarstratoliner92 reply : 

How deep was the fish caught? 8'

Did the lure contain rattles or have hinges? No

Was the lure a natural color (brown, green) or was it an unnatural color (chartreuse, orange)? Junebug

If possible, what moon phase was your PB caught during? Waxing Crescent


fishing user avatarsenile1 reply : 

If you don't know, or don't remember, the moon phase when you caught your personal best go to this site:  http://www.moonconnection.com/moon_phases_calendar.phtml and enter the month and year when you caught your fish in the calendar.  Make sure you choose the correct hemisphere.  Then look for the day of the month.  If you aren't familiar with the symbols used for the different phases, click on "moon phases explained" in the menu on the left.


fishing user avatarJake Coucoules reply : 

How deep was the fish caught? 6 feet


Did the lure contain rattles or have hinges? no


Was the lure a natural color (brown, green) or was it an unnatural color (chartreuse, orange)? shad


If possible, what moon phase was your PB caught during? day after full moon


fishing user avatarSmallmouth Hunter reply : 

Average depth caught in: <2 (spawning)

Rattles/hinges vs silent: silent

Natural vs unnatural colors: natural

Moon phases: April 12, 2013 - don't know the phase though


fishing user avataraqualkinbush reply : 

How deep was the fish caught? 3-4ft on a very deep sloping bank


Did the lure contain rattles or have hinges?no rapala minnow style crankbait


Was the lure a natural color (brown, green) or was it an unnatural color (chartreuse, orange)? FireTiger


If possible, what moon phase was your PB caught during? Not sure.



fishing user avatarchubaka reply : 

How deep was the fish caught? 1-2ft of water.


Did the lure contain rattles or have hinges? Yes it did.


Was the lure a natural color (brown, green) or was it an unnatural color (chartreuse, orange)? Natural color it is.


If possible, what moon phase was your PB caught during? Nada. 



fishing user avatarDarren. reply : 
  On 7/18/2013 at 3:35 AM, Brian6428 said:

 

How deep was the fish caught? ~ 4 feet

Did the lure contain rattles or have hinges? No

Was the lure a natural color (brown, green) or was it an unnatural color (chartreuse, orange)? Yes (natural)

If possible, what moon phase was your PB caught during? April 20, 2012 looks like a waning crescent just before new moon

 


fishing user avatarAndyTN reply : 

My PB was on live bait that I had caught beforehand, but for an artificial lure - 


 


How deep was the fish caught? 14-15'


Did the lure contain rattles or have hinges? No - BPS 3.5" Tender Tube


Was the lure a natural color (brown, green) or was it an unnatural color (chartreuse, orange)? Brown with gold specs


If possible, what moon phase was your PB caught during? Unk.



fishing user avatarMattlures reply : 

about 3 feet but it was a bed fish. my biggest non bed fish was in about 15-20ft

the bait was my soft bluegill swimbait so no hinges or rattles  but my biggest non bed fish was caught on my hardgill which does have joints.

The colors are very natural.

I don't remember the moon.

I have read Hannon's book and it was interesting. His opinions and observations are clearly made from his experiances fishing weedy shallow florida lakes. A lot of his opinions would not be the same had he grew up out west fishing deep clear resivoirs. Bass do not act the same in different types of bodies of water. While some of their habits seem to be the same others change depending upon location. It appeared as though he based his opinions on bass behavior, from a very specific environment.


fishing user avatarShane J reply : 

How deep was the fish caught?   17'


Did the lure contain rattles or have hinges?   No ( jig/Lobster)


Was the lure a natural color (brown, green) or was it an unnatural color (chartreuse, orange)?    Natural Colors


If possible, what moon phase was your PB caught during?   March 1, 2013   3/4 moon, Waning



fishing user avatarJolly Green reply : 

How deep was the fish caught? 2'


Did the lure contain rattles or have hinges? Nope, 4" fluke


Was the lure a natural color (brown, green) or was it an unnatural color (chartreuse, orange)? White


If possible, what moon phase was your PB caught during? Waxing crescent



fishing user avatarJay Ell Gee reply : 

How deep was the fish caught? 1-2 ft (under shaded mat)

Did the lure contain rattles or have hinges?

No (Wacky Rigged Strike King Shim-e Stick)

Was the lure a natural color (brown, green) or was it an unnatural color (chartreuse, orange)?

Natural (Green Pumpkin/Red Flake)

If possible, what moon phase was your PB caught during? Third Quarter


fishing user avatarmerc1997 reply : 

depth 15ft.

jig rubber skirt, black and blue, pork trailer, no rattles

new moon

time 4pm


fishing user avatarSDoolittle reply : 

How deep was the fish caught? 30'

 

Did the lure contain rattles or have hinges? No

 

Was the lure a natural color (brown, green) or was it an unnatural color (chartreuse, orange)? Natural

 

If possible, what moon phase was your PB caught during? New moon


fishing user avatarbgraham91 reply : 

How deep was the fish caught? 11 FT

Did the lure contain rattles or have hinges? RATTLES

Was the lure a natural color (brown, green) or was it an unnatural color (chartreuse, orange)? WHITE

If possible, what moon phase was your PB caught during? NS


fishing user avatarDerriick reply : 

0-3 feet

No

Yes

Don't remember


fishing user avatarDerriick reply : 
  On 7/20/2013 at 1:04 PM, Mattlures said:

about 3 feet but it was a bed fish. my biggest non bed fish was in about 15-20ft

the bait was my soft bluegill swimbait so no hinges or rattles but my biggest non bed fish was caught on my hardgill which does have joints.

The colors are very natural.

I don't remember the moon.

I have read Hannon's book and it was interesting. His opinions and observations are clearly made from his experiances fishing weedy shallow florida lakes. A lot of his opinions would not be the same had he grew up out west fishing deep clear resivoirs. Bass do not act the same in different types of bodies of water. While some of their habits seem to be the same others change depending upon location. It appeared as though he based his opinions on bass behavior, from a very specific environment.

This.


fishing user avatarflyfisher reply : 

3-4 ft

no

no

and i have no idea

 

Wouldn't time of year have a big role in this as well?


fishing user avatargripnrip reply : 

How deep was the fish caught? Topwater


Did the lure contain rattles or have hinges? Yes


Was the lure a natural color (brown, green) or was it an unnatural color (chartreuse, orange)? Natural/all chrome


If possible, what moon phase was your PB caught during? I wish I could tell you.  It was 20 years ago and during the summer.  :wink2:


fishing user avatarNEjitterbugger reply : 

How deep was the fish caught? 4 ft

Did the lure contain rattles or have hinges? yes

Was the lure a natural color (brown, green) or was it an unnatural color (chartreuse, orange)? natural

If possible, what moon phase was your PB caught during? no idea


fishing user avatarBrian6428 reply : 

Thanks for all the replies. You guys brought up some very good points about Hannons observations being geared to shallow flordia lakes, and can't be compared to many of the western lakes, or even northern lakes. Either way, thanks for chiming in, it was still cool to see some of the qualities of the lures you guys caught your pb on. I dont have the exact nubmers but I think natural colors beat out unnatural by about a 70/30 split, and roughly the same for silent vs rattles, with silent winning. Thanks again!

 

Brian


fishing user avatarDave P reply : 

How deep was the fish caught? 4 feet of water

Did the lure contain rattles or have hinges? No

Was the lure a natural color (brown, green) or was it an unnatural color (chartreuse, orange)? Chartreuse and Blue

If possible, what moon phase was your PB caught during? Unknown. It was August the 3rd at 3 in the afternoon.


fishing user avatarNice_Bass reply : 

A few thoughts on this as I started to read the book after reading this thread to see if I could understand it myself.

It seems that out of all the variables included in your questionnaire “depth” would be the most difficult to quantify for several different reasons.  (yet oddly is only quantifiable) 

The first; would be part of the human element in that most don’t know the exact depth of the fish.  Most are estimates at best and the actual depth could vary several feet in either direction. This can lead to variances in the data pool and would need a large set of data in order to eliminate some of the inaccuracies. 

Critical and less quantifiable would be the great geographic differences as others have mentioned between different coasts, even different ecosystems within the same area.  Variables too numerous to count will change the depth at which the bass are feeding at, water quality, traffic, temperature, clarity, bottom composition, time of year etc.     

 

Taking into account that in his book he stated: “…large bass feed primarily in a depth range centering at 8 feet and ranging 5 feet on either side; in other words a 3 to 13 foot depth range.” Pg. 35 BBM

If you were to take a large enough data set, such as the whole of Bass Resource data on PB’s, removing outliers and such data such as topwater in 35 ft, spawn in 1 fow, etc. and performed a statistical analysis on the remaining data I am still fairly confident that you would in fact find that the data would fall in that very same depth range of 8 fow with a 5 ft. deviation.  While it may be true that most of the big fish come out of these deviations, it does not necessarily mean that the biggest fish of any population will in fact come out of that depth range.

In addition, this way of thinking also assumes that everything will fall under this perfect normal distribution/Gaussian distribution since we in fact did remove the outliers which technically are a sub-populations that has been removed since it does not fit the model... but  really should very well influence it.

 

I guess long story short- you will need a ton data here and to get the real determination of that data will have to put a ton of work into the statistical analysis of it.  I think it would be really neat if Bass Resource was able to collect that data from individual members at signup or by other means as a way of compiling that data for you.  There could be data sets available already however- I would think states with great Fishery mgmt. such as Texas may have some available however it may take a bit of research. 

 

Also, butter milk.  Not bad to drink-strangely satisfying and not just for marinating any longer.




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