World Record Largemouth 2024
3bd4 reply :
I have been thinking about it lately and with all the added fishing pressure these days especially in the areas of the country that produce big bass each each year, do you all believe there is a world record largemouth swimming around in the United States right now? Now on to the next question. Do you believe there are a handful of bass that would break the record or is there just one or two out there that would? I am talking strictly in the United States. Do you believe largemouth of world record size only exist in Cali? Lastly, how big of a body of water do you believe a bass of world record size needs. Is there any possibility that one could grow to record size in a large pond for example? Thanks for any responses and opinions in advance.
Darren. reply :
They're out there, probably. Cali's deep water may have the biggest, though there may be yet another one in Japan's Lake Biwa.
Those 3 buddies in Cali (who foul-hooked probably the biggest bass of all time) might just be the hunters who'll find the large, lurking lady. Think they were featured on NatGeo, Science, or Discovery a year back.
flyfisher reply :
I have no doubt that the world record is out there in one of the lakes in California, Florida or maybe even here in VA 
To have a world record bass everything needs to be perfect. Good genetics, good forage and long growing season. All of which are necessary to equal a world record.
Just like not everyone can play professional athletics not all fish can grow to ginormous proportions.
clayton86 reply :
dont kid your self the world record is in NY and I'm gonna catch it.................ah ok thats my funny for the day
PABASS reply :
How large and in what state/part of the world is the world record holder? I have limited access to the internets at work..
I would say ponds can hold some big fish and when you think about an apex predator like a bass in a large pond all it can do is grow, if food is there to support it..
1234567 reply :
ABSOLUTELY there are world record largemouth out there! Just ask Butch Brown and Manabu Kurita who have both said that they have seen largemouth of 25+ and 30 pounds respectively in each of the areas they fish.
I think the body of water's size is important but not #1. In my opinion there are NO World record bass in Florida south of Orlando. I believe Dixon Lake was small at 70 acres or so but produced the largest bass unofficially on record today. Lake Okeechobee is vast and has only produced a 15 pound bass. Obviously Lake O is missing a major key element to produce massive bass and it's not the forage base. Lake O seems to be the capital for 8-10 pounders!
What do you consider a pond? An acre or two imo would not be adequate to support a World Record bass unless man were to provide unlimited forage base. Secondly it would have to be in a colder climate region.
00 mod reply :
Mark my words. The next world record will come from lake Baccarac in Mexico
Jeff
roadwarrior reply :
On 11/17/2012 at 4:16 AM, 00 mod said:Mark my words. The next world record will come from lake Baccarac in Mexico
Jeff
Too far south and too hot.
shimmy reply :
On 11/17/2012 at 12:38 AM, flyfisher said:I have no doubt that the world record is out there in one of the lakes in California, Florida or maybe even here in VA
To have a world record bass everything needs to be perfect. Good genetics, good forage and long growing season. All of which are necessary to equal a world record.
Just like not everyone can play professional athletics not all fish can grow to ginormous proportions.
Look at my PB. I caught one that was, but let it go. World records are in every state of this country. And apparently 8 pounders are as common as one pounders in a lot of the fishing reports i read.
00 mod reply :
On 11/17/2012 at 4:37 AM, roadwarrior said:Too far south and too hot.
You may think that but every year there are some over 15, a couple reaching the 17-18 and a known lake record of 19lbs 10 oz. Many locals down there wouldn't report anything. They just eat them. Also there have been bass netted while Tilapia fishing over 25lbs.
Jeff
Dwight Hottle reply :
On 11/17/2012 at 4:50 AM, 00 mod said:You may think that but every year there are some over 15, a couple reaching the 17-18 and a known lake record of 19lbs 10 oz. Many locals down there wouldn't report anything. They just eat them. Also there have been bass netted while Tilapia fishing over 25lbs.
Jeff
Shhhhhhh!
I want to fish it before it get to crowded.
NEjitterbugger reply :
On 11/17/2012 at 4:38 AM, shimmy said:Look at my PB. I caught one that was, but let it go. World records are in every state of this country. And apparently 8 pounders are as common as one pounders in a lot of the fishing reports i read.
What reports are you reading?LOL
NEjitterbugger reply :
On 11/16/2012 at 11:58 PM, 3bd4 said:I have been thinking about it lately and with all the added fishing pressure these days especially in the areas of the country that produce big bass each each year, do you all believe there is a world record largemouth swimming around in the United States right now? Now on to the next question. Do you believe there are a handful of bass that would break the record or is there just one or two out there that would? I am talking strictly in the United States. Do you believe largemouth of world record size only exist in Cali? Lastly, how big of a body of water do you believe a bass of world record size needs. Is there any possibility that one could grow to record size in a large pond for example? Thanks for any responses and opinions in advance.
I belive that there is a world record lurking around here in the United States. IMO its lurking in cali, florida, georgia....
~I think the water body size means almost nothing, besides how its oxyenated and the bait that's in and or goes in the water... Whats the most important thing is the fishing pressure, if the world record bass is in a place where people rarely fish it will contue to grow if its healthy. My PB came from a pond that is less than 4 acres....
Dwight Hottle reply :
On 11/17/2012 at 5:54 AM, NEjitterbugger said:~I think the water body size means almost nothing, besides how its oxyenated and the bait that's in and or goes in the water... Whats the most important thing is the fishing pressure, if the world record bass is in a place where people rarely fish it will contue to grow if its healthy. My PB came from a pond that is less than 4 acres....
Not necessarily true. Maximum fish size can be influenced by habitat size. Take a typical pet store gold fish out of its typical gold fish bowl & place it in pond or lake & it will grow to much larger size than it could achieve in the original gold fish bowl.
Boogey Man reply :
Honestly, I hope some kid catches in a farm pond in the middle of nowhere. A lot will disagree with me and I know it takes a lot of skill to catch a bass that big, but catching it in a trout stocked lake with limited access is a little too "Barry Bonds" to me.
NEjitterbugger reply :
On 11/17/2012 at 6:40 AM, Dwight Hottle said:Not necessarily true. Maximum fish size can be influenced by habitat size. Take a typical pet store gold fish out of its typical gold fish bowl & place it in pond or lake & it will grow to much larger size than it could achieve in the original gold fish bowl.
I'm talking atleast an acre or so.... If you take a Largemouth from a 4 acre pond and put it in a 300 acre pond that really isn't going to drastically change the size or growth rate of the fish if both areas have lots of bait...
Raul reply :
On 11/17/2012 at 4:50 AM, 00 mod said:You may think that but every year there are some over 15, a couple reaching the 17-18 and a known lake record of 19lbs 10 oz. Many locals down there wouldn't report anything. They just eat them. Also there have been bass netted while Tilapia fishing over 25lbs.
Jeff
I concur with RW, too hot, I´ve been to Bacurato, 15 pounders don´t appear that oftenly, 17 pounders with even less frequency and even though the record is 19 lbs and 10 ounces it´s been so long ago that fish of that size and that age have already died beacuse of the warm water conditions. I doubt that in a subtropical environment like the one you find in Sinaloa, Nayarit, Jalisco´s coast on the west coast and Tamaulipas in the east coast bass can live enough to reach WR size.
WRB reply :
Unless California resumes stocking rainbow trout into lakes that have FLMB populations, the possibility of a world record bass from California is a very low possibility.
Butch Brown catches more giant bass each year than anyone and his PB is 19.3 lbs,. authenticated or officially weighed 20 lb largemouth bass are extremely rare. California is the only state to produce 20+ lb FLMB with the one exception of the Goerge Perry WR form Georgia in 1932.
You never say never, look what came out of Japan, the probability is very, very, low that a new WR LMB will be caught.
My PB is 19.3 lbs and believe I had 2 that were over 20 lbs that got away. I haven't seen a LMB that exceeded 30" and that is the magic number. The Karita WR bass 22.3 lbs., and Dottie were 29.75" long with girth exceeding 28". My 18.6 & 19.3 were both the same length; 28" with 28" girth......2" length could = 5 lbs with these giants, if they have the right food source!
Tom
Crappiebasser reply :
How many of us have hooked into something that just breaks the line or spits the lure without slowing down? Who's to say one of those isn't a big bass. I would bet there has been a world record hooked that the angler never even got to see before it was gone. Regardless it's the hope of that one good hook up that keeps us coming back.
Bassn Blvd reply :
On 11/17/2012 at 3:25 AM, 1234567 said:ABSOLUTELY there are world record largemouth out there! Just ask Butch Brown and Manabu Kurita who have both said that they have seen largemouth of 25+ and 30 pounds respectively in each of the areas they fish.
I think the body of water's size is important but not #1. In my opinion there are NO World record bass in Florida south of Orlando. I believe Dixon Lake was small at 70 acres or so but produced the largest bass unofficially on record today. Lake Okeechobee is vast and has only produced a 15 pound bass. Obviously Lake O is missing a major key element to produce massive bass and it's not the forage base. Lake O seems to be the capital for 8-10 pounders!
What do you consider a pond? An acre or two imo would not be adequate to support a World Record bass unless man were to provide unlimited forage base. Secondly it would have to be in a colder climate region.
I'm not so sure about that. I believe there very well could be a WR lurking somewhere in S. Florida. The problem is that we have no access or limited access to the waters that may hold it.
00 mod reply :
The day I caught my PB, I hooked another bass of which I never saw. It was on the same rod/reel/line/lure and my PB was turned and headed to me. This other bass never stopped. Peeled drag like a stripe(of which there are none where I was fishing). Never turned its head towards me and broke my 25lb line with ease. Whose to say how big it was. I am 90% sure it was a bass. I will be back to try again!
Jeff
A-Jay reply :
On 11/17/2012 at 5:29 AM, Dwight Hottle said:Shhhhhhh!
I want to fish it before it get to crowded.
X2 ~
A-Jay
johnnytoxin reply :
On 11/17/2012 at 9:13 AM, WRB said:Unless California resumes stocking rainbow trout into lakes that have FLMB populations, the possibility of a world record bass from California is a very low possibility.
Butch Brown catches more giant bass each year than anyone and his PB is 19.3 lbs,. authenticated or officially weighed 20 lb largemouth bass are extremely rare. California is the only state to produce 20+ lb FLMB with the one exception of the Goerge Perry WR form Georgia in 1932.
You never say never, look what came out of Japan, the probability is very, very, low that a new WR LMB will be caught.
My PB is 19.3 lbs and believe I had 2 that were over 20 lbs that got away. I haven't seen a LMB that exceeded 30" and that is the magic number. The Karita WR bass 22.3 lbs., and Dottie were 29.75" long with girth exceeding 28". My 18.6 & 19.3 were both the same length; 28" with 28" girth......2" length could = 5 lbs with these giants, if they have the right food source!
Tom
The lakes here in Southern CA do get stocked with rainbow trout every winter. I know for sure Diamond Valley started receiving their plants a few weeks ago and that is the biggest deepest reservoir in So Cal. There is talk of them stocking kokanee salmon in the future because it is so deep it could sustain a population of them, And this place is in the middle of the desert. There is a good chance that there are a few world records swimming around in there.
WRB reply :
On 11/17/2012 at 11:47 PM, johnnytoxin said:The lakes here in Southern CA do get stocked with rainbow trout every winter. I know for sure Diamond Valley started receiving their plants a few weeks ago and that is the biggest deepest reservoir in So Cal. There is talk of them stocking kokanee salmon in the future because it is so deep it could sustain a population of them, And this place is in the middle of the desert. There is a good chance that there are a few world records swimming around in there.
DVL has been getting stocks of brown trout and since DVL was built in a dry valley without any historic streams that never had native trout eons ago, so it can receive trout plants. The problem with DVL in regards to producing a WR LMB is competition with stripers. DVlL may be pased it's prime year for producing giants consistantly over 15 lbs and hasn't produced 18 lb bass, let alone a 20+. The CA FLMB reach prime weights at age 11 to 12 years old and start to lose weight from old age 13 to 15 years old, their maximum age under ideal conditions. DVL is definately a contender and so is Castiac lagoon, due to the fact trout stocking has resumed there. We have a lot of lakes that are producing 12 to 13 lb bass, the key is 18+ and the only 2 lakes to do that this year was Perris and Shadow Cliff. A13 year old caught an 18.9 lb bass from Shadow Cliff!
Tom
1234567 reply :
On 11/17/2012 at 11:05 AM, Bassn Blvd said:I'm not so sure about that. I believe there very well could be a WR lurking somewhere in S. Florida. The problem is that we have no access or limited access to the waters that may hold it.
The possibility does exist but imo the odds are heavily against it. Even the deeper quarry/phosphate pits could harbor giant bass with a more conducive and stable environment, but the mere possibility of the right gene pool being in there is almost slim to none. I personally don't believe that every FLMB bass has the potential to be a world record. I do believe most (female) can grow to state record sizes, but I think less than one percent of FLMB have the genetics to reach those proportions.
BassAssassin726 reply :
On 11/17/2012 at 9:13 AM, WRB said:Unless California resumes stocking rainbow trout into lakes that have FLMB populations, the possibility of a world record bass from California is a very low possibility.
Butch Brown catches more giant bass each year than anyone and his PB is 19.3 lbs,. authenticated or officially weighed 20 lb largemouth bass are extremely rare. California is the only state to produce 20+ lb FLMB with the one exception of the Goerge Perry WR form Georgia in 1932.
You never say never, look what came out of Japan, the probability is very, very, low that a new WR LMB will be caught.
My PB is 19.3 lbs and believe I had 2 that were over 20 lbs that got away. I haven't seen a LMB that exceeded 30" and that is the magic number. The Karita WR bass 22.3 lbs., and Dottie were 29.75" long with girth exceeding 28". My 18.6 & 19.3 were both the same length; 28" with 28" girth......2" length could = 5 lbs with these giants, if they have the right food source!
Tom
You and Butch Brown have the same size PB? Cool.
BassAssassin726 reply :
On 11/17/2012 at 4:38 AM, shimmy said:Look at my PB. I caught one that was, but let it go. World records are in every state of this country. And apparently 8 pounders are as common as one pounders in a lot of the fishing reports i read.
You caught a 26 pounder? It just so happen to be dying so it couldnt be certified? And this was in Virginia? I call bull. Lol
Dwight Hottle reply :
On 11/19/2012 at 3:14 AM, BassAssassin726 said:You and Butch Brown have the same size PB? Cool.
What do think WRB stands for?
craww reply :
On 11/17/2012 at 6:49 AM, NEjitterbugger said:I'm talking atleast an acre or so.... If you take a Largemouth from a 4 acre pond and put it in a 300 acre pond that really isn't going to drastically change the size or growth rate of the fish if both areas have lots of bait...
I get so tired of hearing that myth about a smaller pond not being able to sustain even big fish, much less a record. Its gotten so bad manufacturers make "pond" baits in smaller sizes, lol. Biologists recommend harvesting several hundred pounds of bass, blue gill, etc, per acre each year. If there's shad, lack of other predators, or even a management program that much better. People act like their goldfish in a freaking bowl lol.
My PB is .2lbs shy of 12lbs, and I have an 11.4n (Northern Strain).True giants in VA. Both out of small ponds.
NEjitterbugger reply :
On 11/19/2012 at 5:59 AM, craww said:I get so tired of hearing that myth about a smaller pond not being able to sustain even big fish, much less a record. Its gotten so bad manufacturers make "pond" baits in smaller sizes, lol. Biologists recommend harvesting several hundred pounds of bass, blue gill, etc, per acre each year. If there's shad, lack of other predators, or even a management program that much better. People act like their goldfish in a freaking bowl lol.
My PB is .2lbs shy of 12lbs, and I have an 11.4n (Northern Strain).True giants in VA. Both out of small ponds.
Thank You!!! My PB also comes from a very small pond, even though my PB is 5lbs 11oz not 12lbs LOL....
roadwarrior reply :
Well, I suppose it depends on where you live. In the Mid South small ponds dry up every decade or so.
I don't fish ponds less than five acres in general. Even though I don't know everything about a farm pond,
anything that dries up occasionally is probably not going to support big bass.
NEjitterbugger reply :
On 11/19/2012 at 7:36 AM, roadwarrior said:Well, I suppose it depends on where you live. In the Mid South small ponds dry up every decade or so.
I don't fish ponds less than five acres in general. Even though I don't know everything about a farm pond,
anything that dries up occasionally is probably not going to support big bass.
I agree, but where I live I don't have that problem, and the depth of any small pond is also a facor of holding large fish if there is a problem with water levels....
~I actually prefer fishing ponds under 100 acres... But that's just me...
tnriverluver reply :
I don't know about the world record, but the Tenn state record was shocked up In Browns Creek Lake in Natchez Trace park by TWRA this spring. It is still there somewhere!
Brian Needham reply :
arkansas' record came from a "lake" less than 300 acres.
and the record that caught this year(later DQed) came from a smaller lake as well.
greyleg33 reply :
I think several states could produce a world record and water size doesn't have a lot to do with it.
craww reply :
I cant help but think at some point a FREAK is gonna show up somewhere unexpectedly like the New england state had with the 15 or 16lbr that came up through the ice.
roadwarrior reply :
There will NEVER be another World Record from ANY state that has NEVER produced
a 20 pound fish, which includes Florida. NO state that hasn't produced a 10 lb smallmouth
will EVER produce a World Record small jaw either.
California is the only possibility in the Western Hemisphere for a largemouth record.
Tennessee, Alabama and Kentucky are the only contenders for a World Record
smallmouth.
shimmy reply :
On 11/19/2012 at 3:16 AM, BassAssassin726 said:You caught a 26 pounder? It just so happen to be dying so it couldnt be certified? And this was in Virginia? I call bull. Lol
I fish at least once a month and when you start fishing this much, you start producing 8+ pound bass almost daily. It's no biggie, you should have seen the one that got away this spring. At least 5 pounds bigger than that PB. Had a friend verify it too, and had measurements.
flyfisher reply :
On 11/19/2012 at 8:43 AM, shimmy said:I fish at least once a month and when you start fishing this much, you start producing 8+ pound bass almost daily. It's no biggie, you should have seen the one that got away this spring. At least 5 pounds bigger than that PB. Had a friend verify it too, and had measurements.
So where are the pictures? I mean a world record bass is basically worth a million dollars.
And once a month isn't fishing that much really.....
roadwarrior reply :
On 11/19/2012 at 8:43 AM, shimmy said:I fish at least once a month and when you start fishing this much, you start producing 8+ pound bass almost daily. It's no biggie, you should have seen the one that got away this spring. At least 5 pounds bigger than that PB. Had a friend verify it too, and had measurements.
BS...On the other hand...It's amazing that you had measurements of the one that got away...
1234567 reply :
"Small" is subjective. Dottie was caught from Dixon, small imo, Butch fishes the lagoon which is "small"??
No 23 pound bass will ever come from a 2 acre pond.
ChrisAW reply :
On 11/19/2012 at 8:48 AM, flyfisher said:And once a month isn't fishing that much really.....
x2, that is not much at all. Fishing a lot would be like my co-worker Dustin... Atleast 4 local tournaments a WEEK at the peak of the season.
flyfisher reply :
On 11/19/2012 at 8:35 AM, roadwarrior said:There will NEVER be another World Record from ANY state that has NEVER produced
a 20 pound fish, which includes Florida. NO state that hasn't produced a 10 lb smallmouth
will EVER produce a World Record small jaw either.
California is the only possibility in the Western Hemisphere for a largemouth record.
Tennessee, Alabama and Kentucky are the only contenders for a World Record
smallmouth.
Care to elaborate why?
North Ga Hillbilly reply :
I have had a great year that has allowed me to see a slew of decent fish. There is a MAJOR diff between a 10# and a 12#, and a new step into the teens. A random fish's ability to grow to 10# is decent I believe, to 12# I'm more skeptical, and the jump into the teens, much less 20#+ is dependent on genetics. You could force feed 10 randomly selected bass high protien pellets and I feel it is unlikely any of them would break 15#. I pull scales on all the big fish I catch, you'd be suprised at some of the ages.
As far as small water goes, there have been several 15#-16# fish caught out of south georgia farm ponds >20 acers. That being said... those next 6 pounds are much harder to get than the first 16.
NGaHB
merc1997 reply :
it takes a very special lake to produce bass of world record size. wrb has told us that. falcon is a great example. it has everything going for it. year round growing season, food, cover, but there are draw backs. fishing pressure is one. remember wrb stating the age of around 12 to reach maximum potential. the other problem with falcon is water levels. if the water could be left 35 to 40 feet higher than it is now for a 12 year period, you just might see a world record if you could get it out of the jungle. years ago, i know there were a few nlmb here in table rock lake pushing 20lbs. i have seen a picture of two bass that were gigged out of the roaring river arm during the winter that went 17lbs. and 19lbs. those bass were weighed, and i do know the person that gigged them. they went on the dinner table. table rock is lucky to produce a 9lb. bass anymore. the lmb virus virtually wiped out the lake, and polution and other things will prevent table rock from producing numbers of giant fish it use to. i am sure that wrb is right about cali. chances usless they start stocking trout again.
bo
NEjitterbugger reply :
On 11/19/2012 at 8:43 AM, shimmy said:I fish at least once a month and when you start fishing this much, you start producing 8+ pound bass almost daily. It's no biggie, you should have seen the one that got away this spring. At least 5 pounds bigger than that PB. Had a friend verify it too, and had measurements.
I fish more than that and my PB is 5lbs 11oz... Since you catch these 8 pounders so freqently why don't you post pics of them? Next spring post some pics, considering you catch an 8 pounder almost every outing...
Im not even asking for a pic of your "world record catch" just an 8# that you catch so often..
shimmy reply :
Man, been reeling them in left and right. Thought the whole 26 pound fish in VA was enough to know beyond a shadow of a doubt that the claim was ridiculous. If we could only get this same skepticism with the fishing reports where people are constantly reporting 7 and 8 pounders left and right like it's nothing. Just proving my point. Road Warrior? Seriously, you were biting on this too? Come on man. Tried to make it as dumb as possible.
It is funny though how people will give you measurements of the one that got away, forget the camera, or have it verified by "the friend" whatever that means.
Until these ridiculous reports stop comin, my PB status remains!
merc1997 reply :
i have to laugh. in my many years of fishing, there are many more 8's caught in the coffee shop than on the water. there are way too many people that catch a nice 8lber, and not weigh it, but in their eyes, it was 8lbs. i just have seen it way too many times. when you catch quite a few big ones every year since the 60's, you get pretty good at tellingOn 11/19/2012 at 10:50 AM, shimmy said:Man, been reeling them in left and right. Thought the whole 26 pound fish in VA was enough to know beyond a shadow of a doubt that the claim was ridiculous. If we could only get this same skepticism with the fishing reports where people are constantly reporting 7 and 8 pounders left and right like it's nothing. Just proving my point. Road Warrior? Seriously, you were biting on this too? Come on man. Tried to make it as dumb as possible.
It is funny though how people will give you measurements of the one that got away, forget the camera, or have it verified by "the friend" whatever that means.
Until these ridiculous reports stop comin, my PB status remains!
the weight of a bass just looking at it. but, most people do not have that experience. hence, there are lots of 8's caught. 
bo
roadwarrior reply :
On 11/19/2012 at 9:33 AM, flyfisher said:Care to elaborate why?
The pyramid is steep, but to reach the top there should be a pool of prospects. Even though I think the
World Record fish are to some degree anomalies, in order for a smallmouth to get to 12 lbs, it had to weigh
10 at one time. For the Great Lakes to produce this fish, there should be at least a few 10+ on record, but
there are none.
Florida and Texas grow massive numbers of huge bass, but never 20 lbs. It's unlikely to get from there to
22-5 or 25-1 depending on your view of "the record". Unless there is some population of world class contenders,
I don't think a new record can be expected.
Quillback reply :
Don't forget Texas, their mad scientists are working hard at using genetics to create a WRB.
http://www.statesman.com/news/lifestyles/recreation/lunkers-landed-at-a-rapid-pace-this-season/nRrbf/
craww reply :
On 11/19/2012 at 8:35 AM, roadwarrior said:There will NEVER be another World Record from ANY state that has NEVER produced
a 20 pound fish, which includes Florida. NO state that hasn't produced a 10 lb smallmouth
will EVER produce a World Record small jaw either.
California is the only possibility in the Western Hemisphere for a largemouth record.
Tennessee, Alabama and Kentucky are the only contenders for a World Record
smallmouth.
I think your underestimating nature. Fish within 4-5lbs (several not even full of eggs mind you) of the WR are caught fairly often even in texas.There are fish shocked up of all species in bodies of water all over the world all the time that blow conventional wisdom out of the water.
Its very possible theres several wr's swimming around who knows where. At the end of the day neither of us can say with certainty but I think its very possible. Now being in the right place and time and catching it is a different story.
flyfisher reply :
On 11/19/2012 at 10:50 AM, shimmy said:Man, been reeling them in left and right. Thought the whole 26 pound fish in VA was enough to know beyond a shadow of a doubt that the claim was ridiculous. If we could only get this same skepticism with the fishing reports where people are constantly reporting 7 and 8 pounders left and right like it's nothing. Just proving my point. Road Warrior? Seriously, you were biting on this too? Come on man. Tried to make it as dumb as possible.
It is funny though how people will give you measurements of the one that got away, forget the camera, or have it verified by "the friend" whatever that means.
Until these ridiculous reports stop comin, my PB status remains!
You know i thought this was troll post but after i saw you had many posts on here i figured you were legit.....well played well played 
roadwarrior reply :
On 11/19/2012 at 10:50 AM, shimmy said:Man, been reeling them in left and right. Thought the whole 26 pound fish in VA was enough to know beyond a shadow of a doubt that the claim was ridiculous. If we could only get this same skepticism with the fishing reports where people are constantly reporting 7 and 8 pounders left and right like it's nothing. Just proving my point. Road Warrior? Seriously, you were biting on this too? Come on man. Tried to make it as dumb as possible.
It is funny though how people will give you measurements of the one that got away, forget the camera, or have it verified by "the friend" whatever that means.
Until these ridiculous reports stop comin, my PB status remains!
Good one! You got me...
-Kent
WRB reply :
There isn't 1 northern strain largemouth bass from any state that exceeds 17 lbs! Any LMB that exceed 17 lbs has Florida LMB genes.
California's state record for NLMB, before FLMB were introduced was 15 1 oz., after FLMB were stocked in 1959 that record fell until it reached 22.01 lbs (Crupi). It's all about genes, available food source with ideal growing conditions and sanctuary areas to escape fishing pressure.
Tom
SPEEDBEAD. reply :
On 11/19/2012 at 9:05 PM, craww said:I think your underestimating nature. Fish within 4-5lbs (several not even full of eggs mind you) of the WR are caught fairly often even in texas
That's the thing, right there. Texas' record is 18 and change. Yeah, big fish but NOWHERE near the record. Those fish are topped out around there and I dont know that "fairly often" accurately describes how often 17-18lb fish are caught in that state or anywhere for that matter. A review of the Share-a-lunker program would tell you "not very often at all." Choke Canyon, Fork and Falcon all have CRAZY numbers of DD's in them, but they are lacking the upper echelon genetics to produce a true giant fish.
I also kinda disagree with RW in where a smallmouth record could come from. I think Berryessa in CA has the forage base and genetics to kick out a record.
A-Jay reply :
On 11/19/2012 at 7:40 PM, roadwarrior said:The pyramid is steep, but to reach the top there should be a pool of prospects. Even though I think the
World Record fish are to some degree anomalies, in order for a smallmouth to get to 12 lbs, it had to weigh
10 at one time. For the Great Lakes to produce this fish, there should be at least a few 10+ on record, but
there are none.
^^^^^^^^^^^^
X2 - I would have to agree with the this premise.
A-Jay
roadwarrior reply :
We have no chance of a record breaking largemouth in this part of the country,
but we have documentation for The World Record Smallmouth in TN or KY (there
has always been a dispute as to the exact location the fish was caught at on Dale
Hollow). Number two was also caught on Dale Hollow and considered the World
Record for many years. http://worldrecordsmallmouth.com/
#3 Is the current ALabama State Record, 10-8: http://www.outdooral...r/record/state/
I have heard rumors of a few 10+ on Pickwick, but no record broken so no certified documentation. One of
these fish I had the privilege of holding. My fishing partner, Speedy Madewell, caught the monster which I
netted and weighed.
Mattlures reply :
Socal has continued to get trout stocks. The problem is alot of lakes like to stock bigger trout for the trout fisherman. Small trout are much better as the smaller bass can eat them and get growing at an earlier age. I have only seen 2 fish I thought were 20+. I lost one and never caught the other but I think Mike Long caught her and she went 19 something.But both of those fish were 6-7years ago
http://www.mikelongoutdoors.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/nightbassing1.jpg
Mike also caught this 19.3 a couple years ago but even then its still along ways away from 22.4
http://www.mikelongoutdoors.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/19-3-Lake-Morena-bass-on-scale.jpg
I dont know if we currently have any contenders but its possible
SPEEDBEAD. reply :
I believe that people underestimate the difficulty of a 3-5lb weight jump.
Think about a three pound fish. Great tournament fish and 5 of them all the time will win you money in a lot of places.
Now think about a 8lb fish. For anyone not in Cali or the south, that is a fish of a lifetime. Hell, there are plenty of guys in Cali or the south that would love to claim an 8lb fish as their PB. Putting 5lbs on is no joke, nor is it an easy feat. The fact is that there is a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE difference in a 18lb fish and one weighing 5lbs more that would break the record.
I'll go and agree with Kent on the Largemouth that if the state hasn't produced a 20, it is a "hit the Powerball twice" lottery shot to produce a record.
NEjitterbugger reply :
On 11/19/2012 at 10:50 AM, shimmy said:Man, been reeling them in left and right. Thought the whole 26 pound fish in VA was enough to know beyond a shadow of a doubt that the claim was ridiculous. If we could only get this same skepticism with the fishing reports where people are constantly reporting 7 and 8 pounders left and right like it's nothing. Just proving my point. Road Warrior? Seriously, you were biting on this too? Come on man. Tried to make it as dumb as possible.
It is funny though how people will give you measurements of the one that got away, forget the camera, or have it verified by "the friend" whatever that means.
Until these ridiculous reports stop comin, my PB status remains!
On 11/19/2012 at 11:46 PM, flyfisher said:You know i thought this was troll post but after i saw you had many posts on here i figured you were legit.....well played well played
Initially thought you were a troll aswell, then I thought you were being serioous wiht all of your other posts....
~Im accepting defeat... lol
WRB reply :
http://www.dfg.ca.gov/fish/Resources/BlackBass/history.asp
These are the California official state bass records, bass that were weighed and authenticated by the DFG.
Dottie the bass reported to weigh 25.1 was never officially weighed or examined at that weight.
Bob Crupi's 22.01 falls into the same unofficial category, both bass released before officially weighed and examined.
Bass anglers have a long history of fudging weights by adding items inside the bass or the scales are not accurate.
The bottom line is giant bass over 15 lbs are extremely rare fish and over 20 lbs, all we're caught in California and 1 from Japan....22 lbs 5 oz, the current world record largemouth bass. If you don't have FLMB strains in your lakes you have 0 chance of catching a world record LMB!
Tom
3bd4 reply :
Thanks for everyones reply on the topic. I have really enjoyed reading everything that was sad. IMO the only place that could potentially produce a record largemouth in the U.S. would be a lake 75+ acres in California.
PABASS reply :
On 11/20/2012 at 7:59 AM, WRB said:http://www.dfg.ca.go...ass/history.asp
These are the California official state bass records, bass that were weighed and authenticated by the DFG.
Dottie the bass reported to weigh 25.1 was never officially weighed or examined at that weight.
Bob Crupi's 22.01 falls into the same unofficial category, both bass released before officially weighed and examined.
Bass anglers have a long history of fudging weights by adding items inside the bass or the scales are not accurate.
The bottom line is giant bass over 15 lbs are extremely rare fish and over 20 lbs, all we're caught in California and 1 from Japan....22 lbs 5 oz, the current world record largemouth bass. If you don't have FLMB strains in your lakes you have 0 chance of catching a world record LMB!
Tom
I thought that Japan had the world record bass, I believe there is a youtube video of it.
Something to think about in Japan Bass are to be killed or at least most people consider them an invasive and destructive species, while yes they are invasive I am not sure on the destructive part. With this said they are an apex predator and because of this Bass took total control of its environment, plenty to eat, long growing season, apex predator, could happen in a small private lake and or pond here in the US. They grew to this length while constantly being caught and killed by man, imagine as Bass fishing becomes more like here in the US with catch and release I think Japan may be tough to beat.
bass1980 reply :
People need to stop it about record bass in a pond. Three things needed for record size bass. Food, warm water, and size of water. Your fish tank bass will never get 10 pounds no matter how much you feed it. It's just goes against science. PB pond bass may be big but not even close to 20 lbs. A 20+ lb bass doesn't even look normal anymore. Like hogzilla in the hog world. I don't believe it's normal for a bass to have a belly like that. If record bass was longer and more proportioned then yes it's normal. Think about Yao Ming, that guy is not normal lol.
WRB reply :
On 11/20/2012 at 9:40 PM, PABASS said:I thought that Japan had the world record bass, I believe there is a youtube video of it.
Something to think about in Japan Bass are to be killed or at least most people consider them an invasive and destructive species, while yes they are invasive I am not sure on the destructive part. With this said they are an apex predator and because of this Bass took total control of its environment, plenty to eat, long growing season, apex predator, could happen in a small private lake and or pond here in the US. They grew to this length while constantly being caught and killed by man, imagine as Bass fishing becomes more like here in the US with catch and release I think Japan may be tough to beat.
1 from Japan...22 lbs 5 oz is the world record!
Tom
jeremyt reply :
On 11/19/2012 at 8:35 AM, roadwarrior said:There will NEVER be another World Record from ANY state that has NEVER produced
a 20 pound fish, which includes Florida. NO state that hasn't produced a 10 lb smallmouth
will EVER produce a World Record small jaw either.
California is the only possibility in the Western Hemisphere for a largemouth record.
Tennessee, Alabama and Kentucky are the only contenders for a World Record
smallmouth.
You can include NC for the smallie, as the state records is 10.02, but you may also consider that where it was caught was far eastern TN. LOL
NorcalBassin reply :
We're blessed with some giant bass in the Norcal foothill lakes I fish due to all the trout and kokanee plants. Melones is in my backyard and in the last couple years the lake records have been dropping like flies. LMB 18.11 and hypothetically still swimming and a 8.6 spot. Trout records also fell in the last 2 years... brown 13.4 and rainbow 8.2 lbs. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a 20 pound LMB in there. Don Pedro (across the highway) has a LMB record of 18.9 and nearby Lake Pardee has a SM record of 9.13 (5 years ago) and the guy that caught her said he hooked and lost one by the boat that was even bigger. Time to start chasing some giants!
merc1997 reply :
perhaps you are not familar with ethyl that was in the bass pro shop aquarium. ethyl came from lake fork. ethyl grew to quite a very big size before she died. i do not recall the exact weight, but it was considerably bigger than her original weigh when first caught from fork. so, i think you might want to rethink your statement about smaller bodies of water. just as ethyl grew in bass pro shops aquarium, a bass in the right small body of water, that is managed correctly, and has the right food supply, could reach a weight of 20lbs. plus. of course, it would have to be a flmb.On 11/21/2012 at 2:25 AM, bass1980 said:People need to stop it about record bass in a pond. Three things needed for record size bass. Food, warm water, and size of water. Your fish tank bass will never get 10 pounds no matter how much you feed it. It's just goes against science. PB pond bass may be big but not even close to 20 lbs. A 20+ lb bass doesn't even look normal anymore. Like hogzilla in the hog world. I don't believe it's normal for a bass to have a belly like that. If record bass was longer and more proportioned then yes it's normal. Think about Yao Ming, that guy is not normal lol.
bo
wisconsin heat reply :
I think its just a matter of time before manabu pulls another one out of lake biwa in Japan
0119 reply :
I dont know where a new record will come from and actually hope it never gets broken. If it does though, I hope some old timer in over-alls using a old outfit and a no name lure catches it in a out of the way hole. Only he would be smart enough not to blab its location.
bass1980 reply :
On 11/21/2012 at 11:27 AM, merc1997 said:perhaps you are not familar with ethyl that was in the bass pro shop aquarium. ethyl came from lake fork. ethyl grew to quite a very big size before she died. i do not recall the exact weight, but it was considerably bigger than her original weigh when first caught from fork. so, i think you might want to rethink your statement about smaller bodies of water. just as ethyl grew in bass pro shops aquarium, a bass in the right small body of water, that is managed correctly, and has the right food supply, could reach a weight of 20lbs. plus. of course, it would have to be a flmb.
bo
Yes I'm familiar with the story of Ethel. She was breed in a hatchery but was caught in Lake Fork. That lake is massive. When she was caught she was already 17+ lbs. So to me this has no relations to raising record bass in a tank or pond. Most fish get stunted when they are young and will never recover. Not saying they are stunted but determined growth will be when they are young.
merc1997 reply :
bo
amazing that ethel continued to grow at a normal rate even though she was in an aquarium. fish are animals just as cattle, chickens or anything else. growth has nothing to do with free roaming space. if that was so, why do they raise chickens in a closed environment? genetics of course is going to play a major factor in the size of any bass. i will state again that you would have to have a well managed pond, small lake, tank or what ever. managing would include trimming the population down to the ones with the best growing genes. they do the same thing now on deer farms. they keep bucks in a contained environment, where all the feeding is controlled to grow a bigger, better buckOn 11/22/2012 at 1:33 AM, bass1980 said:Yes I'm familiar with the story of Ethel. She was breed in a hatchery but was caught in Lake Fork. That lake is massive. When she was caught she was already 17+ lbs. So to me this has no relations to raising record bass in a tank or pond. Most fish get stunted when they are young and will never recover. Not saying they are stunted but determined growth will be when they are young.
bo.
bass1980 reply :
Chicken raised to be slaughter are fed differently and injected with hormones/roids whatever you call it. It is nothing typical to the wild. Look at a Tyson chicken vs a all natural chicken.
One of my passion growin up is fish keeping. Not little tetras but expensive discus, monster predator fish, and even native game fish. The question always pop up as how big can they get. The enthusiast always answer that they can only get xxx big is that size tank. I believe fish and water is deifferent than air breathing mammals. A fish in cold climate will usually never be bigger than fish in warm climate...on average.... Due to them trying to save energy and live off the fat.
There's always that rare out of the norm fish. But there will always be that rare out of the norm fish in a southern massive lake that's bigger. Unless its fished so much to the point they don't even get that chance. Key word is record so my bet would be that.
WRB reply :
The IGFA could open the door to a new world record largemouth bass by simply recognizing that FACT that northern (M.s. salomides) and Florida strain (M.s.Florides) LMB are TWO different fish and establish a record for each species. The easiest field identifier is the lateral line pour scale count: NLMB have 68 ot fewer pour scales, FLMB have 69 or greater number of pour scales. You can count lateral line pour scales while the bass is alive and laying on a wet towel and I have done this many times! IGFA has already established the FLMB records, both the Kurita and Perry bass are FLMB, leaving open the world record for NLMB.
Tom
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