Was watching a video regarding the odds of a bass making it to double digit weights and was shocked to hear just how few make it.
I think it was 1 bass out of multiple millions of eggs...
Just wanted to know how many of you have caught a 10lb+ bass and in which state?
12lb 8oz / Tennessee
Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Georgia, & Florida ????
Most fish and other organisms rely on the "start with insanely large numbers of embryos/larvae" as a strategy to ensure enough survival to perpetuate the species. This is not necessarily an indication of how many individuals of the largest specimens to be expected are around. It does make these older ones by virtue of the strategy less abundant, but in many cases, they reach threshold sizes or gates, where mortality decreases drastically in steps rather than linearly. Yes on the DD club.
Still looking! One of my friends just caught a 9.6 a couple months ago, though. So close to that DD mark!
Quite a few back in the days before I owned a scale.
Florida & Mexico.
Haven't caught one that size yet. Not able to fish as often as I'd like to at the moment. I'll get me one eventually though, just need to get out there more than I can right now. I have been reading up on the strategy for catching them and watching videos too. Just waiting for the chances to try it out. I do know that they are not the easiest ones to catch. Lots of time and patience go into having success catching trophy size bass.
Can I add my top 2 together? Otherwise, nope.
Bunch of 10s and a couple 11s for me all out of Florida. Came close in GA with a 9 1/2.
Been very fortune to catch a handful of green bass over 10 lbs.
All were in Mexico.
As for the state - I was in a state of Hysteria ~ Every Time.
(still looking for a brown one . . . . )
A-Jay
4 tens & 1 eleven. All in GA
2 over 10, 14-2,12-6 Florida.
All were caught in Fl so far.
5 dds Tx
I have caught several bass over 10 pounds in my home state of Florida, all weighed on a scale, all from land in public waters, all caught by myself with no guide putting me on fish. I feel its much more rewarding to catch your own trophy bass , but thats just me.
(2) 10's in SC. Both were in ponds, but both ponds were at least 50 miles apart.
I've caught a 10-3 in a pond here in arkansas but nothing over 8 in a lake or river.
Several DDs, all in Texas.
Quite a few, but then again, I was born and raised in Florida.
Used to catch at least 3 every winter but lately (the last 30 years) have been afflicted with Snook and fish only the spawn for bass. Usually still manage 2 or 3 per year. Plan on going next month on the full and new moons. Been doing this a long time so have a pretty good idea as to when/where/how. I fish public waters and release them all. Largest released was 13.5. Did have a 14 + mounted back when I was a kid.
Nothing you couldn't do if you lived where I do. I'm just blessed to live in central Florida.
1, in Mexico.
California and Arizona. 10 lb northern strain LMB north of the Mason-Dixon Line are extremely rare fish.
Tom
I've caught too many DD's to remember. They were all caught here in Michigan will I was fast asleep in my warm cozy bed while outdoor temps were below freezing and a bunch of the white stuff blanketed the ground. ????
I sense a pattern here. Its pretty much all states in the deep south...
I have one DD to my name here in California
Still working on it.
On 12/13/2017 at 5:37 AM, gimruis said:I sense a pattern here. Its pretty much all states in the deep south...
Gotta love that dirty South! ????
11Lb.South Carolina
On 12/12/2017 at 1:22 AM, Tweek1106 said:Was watching a video regarding the odds of a bass making it to double digit weights and was shocked to hear just how few make it.
I think it was 1 bass out of multiple millions of eggs...
Just wanted to know how many of you have caught a 10lb+ bass and in which state?
my second largest, 13.5, Jalisco.
Just about every 12 year old boy I know has caught at least two or three. I go to the gym. I pick up a 10 lb dumbell. It seems light, really. Super light. I can do arm curls all day with these puppies. But have I ever caught a bass even approximating 10 lbs? Ha! The heaviest bass I've caught might have weighed 7 lbs soaking wet (which it was). I don't mind, though, because if it were relatively easy, anything smaller would seem like a dink. I'm good.
We all know fish tales are common place and no other activity exaggerates like fishing does. In my experience, most that claim they caught a 10 pounder did not. The alarming rate of anglers on this site that don't carry a scale will help my argument. I see pics on here daily that people claim are 5lbs that are maybe 3lbs so I doubt almost every claim of a 10 lb bass.
Think about this, the record bass caught on the MLF circuit is 8lbs 5 oz. These are the top pros fishing the best lakes year round. 10 pounders are not as common as many here claim they are.
My PB is just over 7 lbs and I've been fishing my whole life. I have 100's of catches over 5 lbs and most people would believe that any of them were 10 lbs. The fish in my profile pic is 6 lbs and I am constantly asked if it is 10.
On 12/16/2017 at 11:39 AM, NCbassraider said:In my experience, most that claim they caught a 10 pounder did not.
I doubt almost every claim of a 10 lb bass.
10 pounders are not as common as many here claim they are.
My PB is just over 7 lbs and I've been fishing my whole life. I have 100's of catches over 5 lbs and most people would believe that any of them were 10 lbs. The fish in my profile pic is 6 lbs and I am constantly asked if it is 10.
Interesting take.
While I'd agree that double digit bass are not 'common', there are more in some places than others.
As for doubting claims of catches, there's a whole lot of really good sticks mixed into this BR crowd, just saying.
Finally, how long one has been bass fishing is merely a measure of time.
A-Jay
On 12/16/2017 at 12:57 PM, A-Jay said:Interesting take.
While I'd agree that double digit bass are not 'common', there are more in some places than others.
As for doubting claims of catches, there's a whole lot of really good sticks mixed into this BR crowd, just saying.
Finally, how long one has been bass fishing is merely a measure of time.
A-Jay
Fair enough, however you left this fact out of my quote which is quite compelling...
Think about this, the record bass caught on the MLF circuit is 8lbs 5 oz. These are the top pros fishing the best lakes year round. 10 pounders are not as common as many here claim they are.
On 12/16/2017 at 1:09 PM, NCbassraider said:Fair enough, however you left this fact out of my quote which is quite compelling...
Think about this, the record bass caught on the MLF circuit is 8lbs 5 oz. These are the top pros fishing the best lakes year round. 10 pounders are not as common as many here claim they are.
The MLF anglers are clearly some of the very best - but I think we can both agree that during those derbies, they are not looking for Trophy bass - especially when a 'score-able bass' in most cases only needs to be 12 inches.
SO many of those shows, (and it is 'entertainment') because of the format, end up being dink fests where the majority of the field is targeting docks in 3 feet of water with a light action spinning rod & a shakeyhead.
Not saying one couldn't get a DD bass that way, but let's just say that it's not a common practice
So IMO, MLF derby results do not reflect any body of water's DD Bass holding potential.
A-Jay
On 12/16/2017 at 1:23 PM, A-Jay said:The MLF anglers are clearly some of the very best - but I think we can both agree that during those derbies, they are not looking for Trophy bass - especially when a 'score-able bass' in most cases only needs to be 12 inches.
SO many of those shows, (and it is 'entertainment') because of the format, end up being dink fests where the majority of the field is targeting docks in 3 feet of water with a light action spinning rod & a shakeyhead.
Not saying one couldn't get a DD bass that way, but let's just say that it's not a common practice
So IMO, MLF derby results do not reflect any body of water's DD Bass holding potential.
A-Jay
Meh, that may be a stretch, but ok, I get your point. Although I'm pretty sure the top anglers are hunting hogs not dinks.
I've got one...bad part is the scale only read 7.2lbs
An 11.4 in Loxahatchee Preserve 30 years ago, an another possibly bigger but no scale that day, in a small deep pond. Both were Florida fish.
On 12/16/2017 at 2:16 PM, NCbassraider said:Meh, that may be a stretch, but ok, I get your point. Although I'm pretty sure the top anglers are hunting hogs not dinks.
Yeah they are hunting hogs when they are on the flw tour or on the bass elite series. But if 8 1lbers counts the same as an 8 lber, I'm catching dinks all day if that's what it takes to cash a check
I caught 1 in Narnia and 1 in Oz then I woke up when Toto’s barking scared away all the fish.
I wasted a lot of trips to Florida on salt water fishing. I should have been targeting big Bass on freshwater lakes.
Don't do a lot of selfies & don't have pictures of PB of 12 lb 8 ozs.
Didn't have scales at the time
Length: 26 3/8"
Girth: 17 1/4"
Y'all do the math!
You bet!
Caught me many a 10 and even a few world records!
Where? In a dream-state.
On 12/16/2017 at 10:59 PM, Darren. said:You bet!
Caught me many a 10 and even a few world records!
Where? In a dream-state.
You might want to get to the airport early next time you are flying out of Norfolk. One of my VA over 10s came not too far from the South West terminal...
ps: How is that rinky dink airfield an International Airport.
I haven't caught one yet, but based on previous replies, I'd say I'm in the right state.
On 12/16/2017 at 11:28 PM, reason said:You might want to get to the airport early next time you are flying out of Norfolk. One of my VA over 10s came not too far from the South West terminal...
ps: How is that rinky dink airfield an International Airport.
I fish on the Peninsula, near the even smaller airport! But
will have to keep that in mind next time I'm down there.
There have been a number of 10 pounders caught out of
Harwood's Mill over the years, but not by me, sadly .
Now that I'm becoming an addict of striper fishing, my
time on fresh is going to be less than ever....
I have one that weighed 10 pounds 2 ounces on my digital scale. It was caught in VA.
My buddy has caught a lot of 10+ fish in VA and some 12+ fish on vacation in Florida. I've weighed 3 of his 10 to 11 pounders on my Rapala digital scale. He's been fishing a long, long time. He's caught more big fish since he quit fishing for money in the '80s. They seem to bite better on slow, slow, slow retrieves than on the run and gun tourney tactics.
This 10.5 was the only fish he caught that day back in the early spring. I kept telling him to take that 6" grub tail off the spinnerbait...he never did.
On 12/16/2017 at 11:37 PM, Darren. said:Now that I'm becoming an addict of striper fishing, my
time on fresh is going to be less than ever....
Say it isn't so. Striped bass are the dumbest things that swim, besides you missed the boat. The late 90s to mid 2000s spoiled all the "rock" crowd. Guys without a clue were catching 50 and even 60 lb fish, or hundreds of fish per trip.
Okay, found it, here's my weighed 10 pound 2 ounce fish.
On 12/16/2017 at 10:59 PM, Catt said:Don't do a lot of selfies & don't have pictures of PB of 12 lb 8 ozs.
Didn't have scales at the time
Length: 26 3/8"
Girth: 17 1/4"
Y'all do the math!
Oh good, maybe you might know, how much would one weigh that's about an inch longer and an inch wider?
If guesstimates count then I will add Tamaulipas MX, lake Guerrero. Caught several big bass that I estimate around 10 lbs., back in the mid 70's. No scale and we didn't care what they weighed back then. 10" red Fliptails worms ruled and we went though a few 100 bags.
Tom
I get the thinking a 7lber is a 10 plus deal. There have been several exaggerated claims locally including one of a claimed 11lbr that was 33 inches. Right out of the gate I flagged that due to the length. Would have looked like a barracuda. But there are numerous DD caught in FL annually and those are only the ones that are documented.
@reason,
On 12/17/2017 at 1:03 AM, reason said:Oh good, maybe you might know, how much would one weigh that's about an inch longer and an inch wider?
There's a fish weight calculator here on bassresource
https://www.bassresource.com/bassfishing/fishcalculator.html
L: 27.375, G: 18.25, gives:
I use L X L X G /1200 = lbs
27.375 X 27.375 X 18.25 / 1200 = 11.52 lbs for LMB.
Tom
On 12/17/2017 at 5:23 AM, WRB said:I use L X L X G /1200 = lbs
27.375 X 27.375 X 18.25 / 1200 = 11.52 lbs for LMB.
Tom
I use this formula as well. My 7.2 on the scale measures 22.5x17.5
Which is 7.38
I'm not nearly as good at eyeballing a bass as my friend. A few years ago I thought this long one was going to make 10. Nope, only 9.25. Some days I think I should just leave the scale at home and round them all up a pound or two.
On 12/16/2017 at 10:59 PM, Catt said:Don't do a lot of selfies & don't have pictures of PB of 12 lb 8 ozs.
Didn't have scales at the time
Length: 26 3/8"
Girth: 17 1/4"
Y'all do the math!
I like my women tall and slim, my bass short and fat, that bass qualifies !
On 12/17/2017 at 5:23 AM, WRB said:I use L X L X G /1200 = lbs
27.375 X 27.375 X 18.25 / 1200 = 11.52 lbs for LMB.
Tom
According to your numbers verses Glenn's calculator there's a 2# differential in my bass & reason's?
For those who asked yes that bass was caught while bank fishing!
On 12/16/2017 at 11:39 AM, NCbassraider said:We all know fish tales are common place and no other activity exaggerates like fishing does. In my experience, most that claim they caught a 10 pounder did not. The alarming rate of anglers on this site that don't carry a scale will help my argument. I see pics on here daily that people claim are 5lbs that are maybe 3lbs so I doubt almost every claim of a 10 lb bass.
Think about this, the record bass caught on the MLF circuit is 8lbs 5 oz. These are the top pros fishing the best lakes year round. 10 pounders are not as common as many here claim they are.
My PB is just over 7 lbs and I've been fishing my whole life. I have 100's of catches over 5 lbs and most people would believe that any of them were 10 lbs. The fish in my profile pic is 6 lbs and I am constantly asked if it is 10.
Pros stats or even how long you've been fishing has zero effect on the chances of catching a DD. Targeting them specifically, learning their behavior and wether or not they even exist where you're fishing does. I know people who have been fishing there whole life's and haven't caught one yet. And I have a buddy(member on here) who has been all saltwater his whole life. Then on his first bass trip I take him out on the big O and he smashes a 10.9lb on the scale. I agree that many do exaggerate but in the right state DD bass are not all fairy tales.
On 12/18/2017 at 12:41 AM, Catt said:
According to your numbers verses Glenn's calculator there's a 2# differential in my bass & reason's?
For those who asked yes that bass was caught while bank fishing!
I don't know what the formula is Glenn's calculator uses?
When I use it for my 28.5" long X 28" girth bass it weighs 22.37 lbs! Actual weight was 19.3 lbs, weighed on a accurate scale. Measuring a live bass accuraley with mouth closed to end of the tail and around the widest area for girth varies, depending on how it's measured, flat or curved surface, etc.
Hard to debate a certified accurate scale.
Tom
On 12/18/2017 at 2:18 AM, WRB said:I don't know what the formula is Glenn's calculator uses?
When I use it for my 28.5" long X 28" girth bass it weighs 22.37 lbs! Actual weight was 19.3 lbs, weighed on a accurate scale. Measuring a live bass accuraley with mouth closed to end of the tail and around the widest area for girth varies, depending on how it's measured, flat or curved surface, etc.
Hard to debate a certified accurate scale.
Tom
28'' girth....and I thought my 10.5 with a 20'' girth was a butterball lol.
On 12/16/2017 at 11:39 AM, NCbassraider said:We all know fish tales are common place and no other activity exaggerates like fishing does. In my experience, most that claim they caught a 10 pounder did not. The alarming rate of anglers on this site that don't carry a scale will help my argument. I see pics on here daily that people claim are 5lbs that are maybe 3lbs so I doubt almost every claim of a 10 lb bass.
Think about this, the record bass caught on the MLF circuit is 8lbs 5 oz. These are the top pros fishing the best lakes year round. 10 pounders are not as common as many here claim they are.
My PB is just over 7 lbs and I've been fishing my whole life. I have 100's of catches over 5 lbs and most people would believe that any of them were 10 lbs. The fish in my profile pic is 6 lbs and I am constantly asked if it is 10.
Same. Recently two guys my age saw me catch a bass and thought it was 6lbs, when it was in fact only 2.5lbs. I think a lot of people aren't doing it to overly brag, but they probably just don't know. When you see a 20" fish out of the water with a mouth that can hold your fist in it, you're probably comparing it in your head to a 10lb dumbbell's size and so it really isn't that extraordinary to assume it's probably about 10lbs. It definitely requires measuring some on your own until you can spot weigh them with any accuracy.
My personal best was 22.5" long, back before I had a scale. I don't doubt it was between 5-6lbs.
"Think about this, the record bass caught on the MLF circuit is 8lbs 5 oz. These are the top pros fishing the best lakes year round. "
Okay, I've thought about it. They don't fish year round like a recreational angler can. Speaking of their chances of catching an MLF record fish, they only fish on scheduled tournament days and they are told where they are allowed to fish and what hours to fish.
I'm not restricted - I can pick my days, my hours, my body of water and who I fish with. If I want to fish the full moon in July I might just catch a 10 pounder at 3 a.m. when it's nice and cool. I don't even have to try to fill a limit - I can throw nothing but big baits for big fish and if I don't catch anything it's no big deal. There's always tomorrow - I don't have to wait until the next tournament.
Heck, it's amazing they've managed an 8.5.
John
One thing worth mentioning here. Traditionally Florida fishermen are TIGHTLIPPED ! When I say tightlipped I am serious. Most guys I know wouldn't tell you about their catches if their life depended on it (include me in that group). Other than my long time fishing buddy of 15 plus years, who passed away recently, I have not taken anyone fishing other than family members in decades. Don't talk much about it either. This behavior is simply a Florida tradition which has been going on for generations and has become more severe with the influx of new residents plus winter visitors. It's pretty simple, you take somebody or tell somebody and within weeks, the good spot that you had is overrun with guys. I'll tell somebody when, how, on what, but NEVER where.
With this in mind, imagine how many catches of really big fish go unreported ! I am certain it is a significant number.-
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Add me to the Virginia club. Biggest here was 10 lb. 7 oz.
Where you bass fish is a major factor in catching 10+ lb LMB, the bass must live where you fish. However having a DD bass population doesn't gareente catching a 10+lb bass.
Ron, a fishing partner I have bass fished with since '67 on several hundred trips hasn't caught a 10 lb bass to this day. Ron is a very good bass angler, he is snake bite when it comes to putting big bass in the boat.
Tom
On 12/19/2017 at 12:32 AM, kiteman said:Same. Recently two guys my age saw me catch a bass and thought it was 6lbs, when it was in fact only 2.5lbs. I think a lot of people aren't doing it to overly brag, but they probably just don't know.
We have a lot of that here in my area. Most 5lb Largemouth Bass claims are really 2-3lbs. at best.
On 12/21/2017 at 3:49 AM, NYWayfarer said:We have a lot of that here in my area. Most 5lb Largemouth Bass claims are really 2-3lbs. at best.
Oh man, it's bad here, too. Especially the things I hear coming from the shore people. I sort of feel bad about this, but this guy was carrying on loudly to anyone that was around about the 10 lb. bass he caught and put on a rope. I told him I don't think it's ten, more like three, though anything over three is really respectable. He got a little belligerent with me so I said tell you what, let's put it on my scale and see. Just a hair over three, with the rope. I'm sure I made his day.
Most recreational bass anglers who catch a 7 lb LMB will think it's a 10 lber by looking at it. The difference is often girth, a 7 lb bass can have the same size head, mouth and length, it just lacks girth do to available prey and age. Scale does make anglers honest.
Tom
10lb 6 oz Arkansas
On 12/21/2017 at 5:16 AM, WRB said:Most recreational bass anglers who catch a 7 lb LMB will think it's a 10 lber by looking at it. The difference is often girth, a 7 lb bass can have the same size head, mouth and length, it just lacks girth do to available prey and age. Scale does make anglers honest.
Tom
I agree regarding the girth. I caught one earlier this year that the guys swore was a 10, but I didn't think so, it was simply too short. However, it was fat. Ended up 9.3 lbs. on the scale. It was only 23" long. Gotta love those pre-spawn fish.
On 12/21/2017 at 6:57 PM, VAHunter said:It was only 23" long.
Caught a lunker winner in a club classic years ago that was 22" long, and only weighed 4.9 lbs. Very skinny. Girth and "shoulders" is everything for max weight. It's why it's so hard to really tell without a scale. And honestly, who catches enough true trophies to even know? Unless you're Tom!
On 12/22/2017 at 12:37 AM, J Francho said:Caught a lunker winner in a club classic years ago that was 22" long, and only weighed 4.9 lbs. Very skinny. Girth and "shoulders" is everything for max weight. It's why it's so hard to really tell without a scale. And honestly, who catches enough true trophies to even know? Unless you're Tom!
I had a similar situation a year ago. I made the post below about a 23.5 inch fish I had caught that was only 4 lb 10z. It had a huge mouth and long body but was skinny as a rail. I no longer use this photo hosting service so the pic is no longer visible. If I don't weigh it on a scale I don't make any definitive claims to weight.
As for the subject of this thread, I am a DD virgin. In the future I plan to take a few trips to areas where my chances are better so hopefully that will change.
Only one 10 pounder, a few years ago. I may have come close yesterday with this cow caught from the bank, but my darn scale was dead. Oh, well.
On 12/24/2017 at 11:58 AM, hawgenvy said:Only one 10 pounder, a few years ago. I may have come close yesterday with this cow caught from the bank, but my darn scale was dead. Oh, well.
Great Bass ~
Congrats
A-Jay
Thanks, A-Jay!
"And honestly, who catches enough true trophies to even know?"
My buddy catches a lot of largemouth over 8 pounds. One year he caught more than 50. Weighed with pics, etc. And that wasn't one of the years he went to Florida and caught twelve and fourteen pounders.
Once we both had 8 pounders in the boat at the same time. He said it was only the 3rd time he's ever had that happen in more than 30 years. We weighed them. He's pretty good at guessing the weight of a fish. He'll miss by a half a pound or so from time to time, but I weigh all of our larger fish just to see how close he is.
10.25# Purtis Creek, Texas. BEFORE they killed all the grass.
SE Kansas grass grower
On 12/24/2017 at 11:58 AM, hawgenvy said:Only one 10 pounder, a few years ago. I may have come close yesterday with this cow caught from the bank, but my darn scale was dead. Oh, well.
Very nice fish - congrats!
On 12/24/2017 at 11:58 AM, hawgenvy said:Only one 10 pounder, a few years ago. I may have come close yesterday with this cow caught from the bank, but my darn scale was dead. Oh, well.
Oh man. That is an absolute beast! I wish your scale had been functioning.
On 12/18/2017 at 12:41 AM, Catt said:According to your numbers verses Glenn's calculator there's a 2# differential in my bass & reason's?
The calculator on this site was made to take into account the shape of double-digit vs. single digit bass. It was years ago when I made it, so I don't recall the exact formula, but essentially there's an inflection point at about 10lbs where the "standard" formula loses accuracy. Larger bass have a wider girth relative to their length than smaller bass. So the popular formula most people use isn't universal.
After a lot of research and talking to fisheries biologists, the calculator was coded in a way to compensate for this issue. While no estimator is 100% accurate, we felt this method was better than a formula that assumes a bass retains the same shape as it grows into double-digit territory. The formula we created is variable based upon the shape changing as the size increases.
I've seen
Length X length X girth ÷1200 = lbs
Girth x girth x length ÷ 800 = lbs
Both of these do not take into account species
The calculator here closely matches In-Fisherman & Texas Parks & Wildlife but like @WRB mentioned there is not argument with a certificated scale.
The G X G X L / 800 = weight in pounds is the IGFA formula and IMO isn't accurate enough for fresh water black bass. I came to that conclusion after measuring and weighing a lot of bass during the 60's and early 70's. Came with a different formula using length and girth that more closely matched the bass with L X L X W = wt in pounds back in the mid 70's. B.A.S.S. Times published the formula in the 2nd issue and it's has become generally accepted. Terry Bastista, author of Sow Belly, sent me a formula based on mass that requires several measurements of the girth to determine the mass more accurately and is a complicated math formula that works very well. The formula is complicated for anglers to perform. A certified scale is the only way to get the weight accurate if there isn't added weight.
Tom
All the fish I caught were over 10+ until I noticed my scale was set to grams.
I always felt displacement would be the true measure of a fish. Not easy for the average angler to do, but could be done easily in big tournaments.
0 in Pennsylvania...
one 10+lb lake Castaic a few years back.
On 12/24/2017 at 11:58 AM, hawgenvy said:Only one 10 pounder, a few years ago. I may have come close yesterday with this cow caught from the bank, but my darn scale was dead. Oh, well.
Gotta love those Fl golf course and neighborhood ponds. One of my 10's came from one.
My 1st DD bass was caught Easter holiday at lake Havasu Roads End Camp dock on a live water dog (tiger salamander) 11 lbs in 1957, the bass was released as it was the pet fish according to the dock man. 2nd was in 1958 at lake Sherwood on a jig, the bass was 10 lbs 1 oz. 3rd in 1959 at Livingston's rock quarry lake (private) on a Pikie jointed plug, 12 lbs. Nearly a decade goes by before 1967 when I caught a 14 lb 3 oz Lower Otay on a live crawdad. By 1971 fishing the Florida strain LMB in San Deigo city lakes, I logged 100 DD LMB on crawdads, waterdogs and live mud suckers to 14 lbs 7 oz.
I decide live bait fishing for bass to be unsporting and swear off using it.
1971 my PB northern strain LMB 12 lbs 4 oz at lake Casitas on a jig. 1981 I catch a 18 lb 11 oz FLMB at lake Casitas on the same jig as my PM NLMB, this fish stands as my PB for over 12 years when I catch 58 bass between 15 lbs to 17.6 lbs at lakes Casitas and Castiac. March 3, 1993 I catch my 19.3lb FLMB on a jig at lake Castiac, my new PB....24 years ago!
Tom
My PB would have been a 10lber, but she refused to eat 2 lbs of lead weights that I offered her...
On 12/29/2017 at 10:41 AM, WRB said:My 1st DD bass was caught Easter holiday at lake Havasu Roads End Camp dock on a live water dog (tiger salamander) 11 lbs in 1957, the bass was released as it was the pet fish according to the dock man. 2nd was in 1958 at lake Sherwood on a jig, the bass was 10 lbs 1 oz. 3rd in 1959 at Livingston's rock quarry lake (private) on a Pikie jointed plug, 12 lbs. Nearly a decade goes by before 1967 when I caught a 14 lb 3 oz Lower Otay on a live crawdad. By 1971 fishing the Florida strain LMB in San Deigo city lakes, I logged 100 DD LMB on crawdads, waterdogs and live mud suckers to 14 lbs 7 oz.
I decide live bait fishing for bass to be unsporting and swear off using it.
1971 my PB northern strain LMB 12 lbs 4 oz at lake Casitas on a jig. 1981 I catch a 18 lb 11 oz FLMB at lake Casitas on the same jig as my PM NLMB, this fish stands as my PB for over 12 years when I catch 58 bass between 15 lbs to 17.6 lbs at lakes Casitas and Castiac. March 3, 1993 I catch my 19.3lb FLMB on a jig at lake Castiac, my new PB....24 years ago!
Tom
That'a a fishing history recap to be proud of Tom. Outstanding!
On 12/29/2017 at 10:41 AM, WRB said:My 1st DD bass was caught Easter holiday at lake Havasu Roads End Camp dock on a live water dog (tiger salamander) 11 lbs in 1957, the bass was released as it was the pet fish according to the dock man. 2nd was in 1958 at lake Sherwood on a jig, the bass was 10 lbs 1 oz. 3rd in 1959 at Livingston's rock quarry lake (private) on a Pikie jointed plug, 12 lbs. Nearly a decade goes by before 1967 when I caught a 14 lb 3 oz Lower Otay on a live crawdad. By 1971 fishing the Florida strain LMB in San Deigo city lakes, I logged 100 DD LMB on crawdads, waterdogs and live mud suckers to 14 lbs 7 oz.
I decide live bait fishing for bass to be unsporting and swear off using it.
1971 my PB northern strain LMB 12 lbs 4 oz at lake Casitas on a jig. 1981 I catch a 18 lb 11 oz FLMB at lake Casitas on the same jig as my PM NLMB, this fish stands as my PB for over 12 years when I catch 58 bass between 15 lbs to 17.6 lbs at lakes Casitas and Castiac. March 3, 1993 I catch my 19.3lb FLMB on a jig at lake Castiac, my new PB....24 years ago!
Tom
No wonder I can't catch a double digit. Tom went and sore mouthed them all!
Congrats! That is an awesome record for monster bass.
On 12/27/2017 at 12:45 PM, Glenn said:The calculator on this site was made to take into account the shape of double-digit vs. single digit bass. It was years ago when I made it, so I don't recall the exact formula, but essentially there's an inflection point at about 10lbs where the "standard" formula loses accuracy. Larger bass have a wider girth relative to their length than smaller bass. So the popular formula most people use isn't universal.
After a lot of research and talking to fisheries biologists, the calculator was coded in a way to compensate for this issue. While no estimator is 100% accurate, we felt this method was better than a formula that assumes a bass retains the same shape as it grows into double-digit territory. The formula we created is variable based upon the shape changing as the size increases.
Glenn your calculator works good for majority of bass, it's better to over estimate then under estimate weights! After years of measuring and then weighing bass it becomes obvious the importance accurate measurements and difficult to accomplish on a live fish. For average body shape bass in the 3 lbs to 7 lbs range I found using 75% of the length as girth* in my L X L X G* / 1200 comes within 10% of fish weighed. The question is what is a average body shape bass? and that becomes another debate.
Happy news years and thank you for developing this site.
Tom
On 12/29/2017 at 10:41 AM, WRB said:My 1st DD bass was caught Easter holiday at lake Havasu Roads End Camp dock on a live water dog (tiger salamander) 11 lbs in 1957, the bass was released as it was the pet fish according to the dock man. 2nd was in 1958 at lake Sherwood on a jig, the bass was 10 lbs 1 oz. 3rd in 1959 at Livingston's rock quarry lake (private) on a Pikie jointed plug, 12 lbs. Nearly a decade goes by before 1967 when I caught a 14 lb 3 oz Lower Otay on a live crawdad. By 1971 fishing the Florida strain LMB in San Deigo city lakes, I logged 100 DD LMB on crawdads, waterdogs and live mud suckers to 14 lbs 7 oz.
I decide live bait fishing for bass to be unsporting and swear off using it.
1971 my PB northern strain LMB 12 lbs 4 oz at lake Casitas on a jig. 1981 I catch a 18 lb 11 oz FLMB at lake Casitas on the same jig as my PM NLMB, this fish stands as my PB for over 12 years when I catch 58 bass between 15 lbs to 17.6 lbs at lakes Casitas and Castiac. March 3, 1993 I catch my 19.3lb FLMB on a jig at lake Castiac, my new PB....24 years ago!
Tom
So jealous right now!
My thoughts are I was fishing everyday for months. Wearing polarized glasses while I’m fishing. I fish manmade dams were droppoffs are. While my pb is 10# I have seen bigger bass swim by me. These bigger gals appear like ghosts then there gone. I lost a few I poked too. My thoughts are if we have bigger bass here in ct then every body of water to the north and south must hold bigger bass. It’s impossible to target bigger bass. But stay going and being constant should pay off. I was just bass fishing having fun. I didn’t care about the size. Once I left the crowds fishing in the evenings and fished in the early mornings when it was quiet the bigger gals show up.
Don't fear the night fear what hunts at night!
Big bass hunt at night...so do I ????
On 12/29/2017 at 10:41 AM, WRB said:My 1st DD bass was caught Easter holiday at lake Havasu Roads End Camp dock on a live water dog (tiger salamander) 11 lbs in 1957, the bass was released as it was the pet fish according to the dock man. 2nd was in 1958 at lake Sherwood on a jig, the bass was 10 lbs 1 oz. 3rd in 1959 at Livingston's rock quarry lake (private) on a Pikie jointed plug, 12 lbs. Nearly a decade goes by before 1967 when I caught a 14 lb 3 oz Lower Otay on a live crawdad. By 1971 fishing the Florida strain LMB in San Deigo city lakes, I logged 100 DD LMB on crawdads, waterdogs and live mud suckers to 14 lbs 7 oz.
I decide live bait fishing for bass to be unsporting and swear off using it.
1971 my PB northern strain LMB 12 lbs 4 oz at lake Casitas on a jig. 1981 I catch a 18 lb 11 oz FLMB at lake Casitas on the same jig as my PM NLMB, this fish stands as my PB for over 12 years when I catch 58 bass between 15 lbs to 17.6 lbs at lakes Casitas and Castiac. March 3, 1993 I catch my 19.3lb FLMB on a jig at lake Castiac, my new PB....24 years ago!
Tom
Tom - that paragraph is hard to comprehend.
I read it and I under stand it - but Holy Smokes - the hours, the days, the weeks, the months and The YEARS, and the DECADES of bass fishing that are represented right there . . . Like I said I read it but . . . . . Just wow.
Quite a journey.
Thank you for sharing it.
A-Jay
Pushing 75 years now, getting to be a old timer.
Tom
On 12/18/2017 at 1:29 AM, DINK WHISPERER said:Pros stats or even how long you've been fishing has zero effect on the chances of catching a DD. Targeting them specifically, learning their behavior and wether or not they even exist where you're fishing does. I know people who have been fishing there whole life's and haven't caught one yet. And I have a buddy(member on here) who has been all saltwater his whole life. Then on his first bass trip I take him out on the big O and he smashes a 10.9lb on the scale. I agree that many do exaggerate but in the right state DD bass are not all fairy tales.
I get the "blind squirrel" theory and that applies everywhere, however that's not really where I was going with this.
Most people are clueless as to what a fish really weighs or just FOS. Sometimes both.
On 12/30/2017 at 12:22 PM, WRB said:Pushing 75 years now, getting to be a old timer.
Tom
When was your last DD? do you still fish "numbers"? Or are you only after that 20lber?
On 1/4/2018 at 12:56 PM, CroakHunter said:When was your last DD? do you still fish "numbers"? Or are you only after that 20lber?
About 7 years ago in 2010 was my last giant bass 15.4 lbs at lake Casitas. Shortly after that I had spinal fusion surgery and couldn't fish for over a year. During that time period California put a stop to planting hactuary raised rainbow trout, the impact was a severe and the giant bass population crashed as a result. To compound everything Quagga mussels were discovered in SoCal and lake Casitas went to a lock on boat inspection that prevents you from using your boat on any other lake without going through 35 day quarantine period, effectively keeping your boat on 1 lake all season.
To answer the question, no DD bass have been caught at Casitas the past 5 years by anyone and that is where my boat is locked onto. I fish Castaic occasionally but same situation regarding giant bass although the lagoon may still have a few.
20 lb bass are very rare and more than likely missed that opportunity.
Tom
Have a few 10-11 class in CA and Mexico, caught 2 - 13+ two weeks apart on Clearlake and The CA Delta