I always wondered how far I was able to cast a lure (more for the purposes of knowing how much line to put on a reel after putting filler on). Last Fall I was casting all the braid (just to the end) I had put on my A-Rig combo. I thought before I took all the braid off that reel and put on more, I would see how much line that truly was. I placed a portable line counter on my rod and used a line counting reel to wind up the braid (I wanted redundancy with the two line counters). I was surprised to learn that I was only casting out approximately 96 ft (one line counter read 96 ft. and the other read 97ft.). I felt like I was Bombing that A-Rig and in reality, if I stood on the end zone line, I could just cast over the 30 yard line. The good news is that I don't plan on ever using more than 50 yards of line on a reel (and those 150 yard spools I can use to fill 3 reels). I know in the past I was putting on way more line than this (I guess I was delusional of how much line I was really casting out).
Has anyone else ever measure how far they were really casting? I would like to see how my results corroborate with others.
THis is awesome. I was just debating this with my brother. He feels he can cast a football field. I just don't find it possible, even throwing a 3/4 red eye shad or something. What is realistic for an able bodied person in their 30's?
I do not know how far I can cast, but I have figured out a good way to fill a spool with backer and then line.
Fill spool with cheap backer. Make sure it is close to the diameter you want for your "main line".
Take a weight that is at the top of your rods weight limit. Cast it out as far as you can. Open your bail, or release the spool and walk back to your weight. That is 2 cast lengths, that will allow for break offs and re-ties!
Jeff
with 200 yard spools I get 3 fill ups (65 yards per reel) which is on par with Jeff's 2 cast set up.
I got pretty nice gear, Lews TP and shimano cores, cleaned and supertuned. My opinion is people who say they can cast over 40 yards non wind aided are full of it.........everyone catches 5 pounders until you weigh them, and everyone cast 60-70 yards until you pace it off. My standard response to people when say " I can spool myself on a cast".....you should add more line, LMAO
edit Lipless cranks are the exception, you really can BOMB those out there a ways
QuoteThe good news is that I don't plan on ever using more than 50 yards of line on a reel (and those 150 yard spools I can use to fill 3 reels). I know in the past I was putting on way more line than this (I guess I was delusional of how much line I was really casting out).
I may be misunderstanding this statement, but you still should fill your spool to within an 1/8 inch or so of the edge. If you only use 50 yards and aren't attaching it to backing to fill the spool your inches per turn of line pickup will be less and you won't be getting the full benefit of your reel's gear ratio.
As for distance it depends on the size of the lure. I've never truly measured it. I only estimate. I think I can fling a zara spook at least 50 yards but that is a guess. As stated in a post above that may have been wind-aided.
On 4/12/2013 at 2:26 AM, chromedog said:THis is awesome. I was just debating this with my brother. He feels he can cast a football field. I just don't find it possible, even throwing a 3/4 red eye shad or something. What is realistic for an able bodied person in their 30's?
Well, I am in my 30's, so I would say that 32 yards (as I measured) would be realistic (and on the high end).
On 4/12/2013 at 2:26 AM, chromedog said:THis is awesome. I was just debating this with my brother. He feels he can cast a football field. I just don't find it possible, even throwing a 3/4 red eye shad or something. What is realistic for an able bodied person in their 30's?
You are more knowledgeable than your brother. I'd say 30 to 40 yards is average for most on bait casting equipment. No proof but just an observation that I see from most people.
On 4/12/2013 at 2:29 AM, Brian Needham said:with 200 yard spools I get 3 fill ups (65 yards per reel)
I got pretty nice gear, Lews TP and shimano cores, cleaned and supertuned. My opinion is people who say they can cast over 40 yards non wind aided are full of it.........everyone catches 5 pounders until you weigh them, and everyone cast 60-70 yards until you pace it off.
Yup, people really tend to over estimate how far they can cast.
On 4/12/2013 at 2:28 AM, 00 mod said:I do not know how far I can cast, but I have figured out a good way to fill a spool with backer and then line.
Fill spool with cheap backer. Make sure it is close to the diameter you want for your "main line".
Take a weight that is at the top of your rods weight limit. Cast it out as far as you can. Open your bail, or release the spool and walk back to your weight. That is 2 cast lengths, that will allow for break offs and re-ties!
Jeff
Hmmmm...very ingenious approach! Thanks for the tip.
On 4/12/2013 at 2:28 AM, 00 mod said:I do not know how far I can cast, but I have figured out a good way to fill a spool with backer and then line.
Fill spool with cheap backer. Make sure it is close to the diameter you want for your "main line".
Take a weight that is at the top of your rods weight limit. Cast it out as far as you can. Open your bail, or release the spool and walk back to your weight. That is 2 cast lengths, that will allow for break offs and re-ties!
Jeff
Very similar to what I do. Depending on the rod and reel I fill it with cheap braid as a backer.
On 4/12/2013 at 2:33 AM, 38 Super Fan said:Yup, people really tend to over estimate how far they can cast.
I believe 100 - 120 feet is not uncommon for casts and that is measured. Thirty yards is a bit short. I have copied a thread below that discussed this very subject here on Bass Resource.
http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/85092-casting-distance/
On 4/12/2013 at 2:31 AM, senile1 said:I may be misunderstanding this statement, but you still should fill your spool to within an 1/8 inch or so of the edge. If you only use 50 yards and aren't attaching it to backing to fill the spool your inches per turn of line pickup will be less and you won't be getting the full benefit of your reel's gear ratio.
As for distance it depends on the size of the lure. I've never truly measured it. I only estimate. I think I can fling a zara spook at least 50 yards but that is a guess. As stated in a post above that may have been wind-aided.
What I meant by this was that I will fill my spool with backing (or "filler" as I call it) and then top it off with 50 yards of "good" line. I always used filler (in the case of my A-Rig combo, I was casting all the braid out right to the knot with to the mono backing), but I would try and add say 100 yards (which obviously wasn't the case for my A-Rig combo. I was way short filling that), but now I don't think I will ever add more than 50 yards (which will be determined by the portible line counter I purchased). Though, I do like 00 Mod's suggestion of filling the whole reel with cheap backing and then cast out as far as you can and double it. No quess work there or measuring needed.
On 4/12/2013 at 2:47 AM, Lucky Craft Man said:What I meant by this was that I will fill my spool with backing (or "filler" as I call it) and then top it off with 50 yards of "good" line. I always used filler (in the case of my A-Rig combo, I was casting all the braid out right to the knot with to the mono backing), but I would try and add say 100 yards (which obviously wasn't the case for my A-Rig combo. I was way short filling that), but now I don't think I will ever add more than 50 yards (which will be determined by the portible line counter I purchased). Though, I do like 00 Mod's suggestion of filling the whole reel with cheap backing and then cast out as far as you can and double it. No quess work there or measuring needed.
Thanks, I figured you were using backing but I thought I would throw that out there. And 00 Mod's suggestion is awesome. I've seen his idea floating around on a couple of threads lately.
Ya, my brother is one of those that knows it all. lmao. But I knew it didn't seem possible. Does anyone think there is a difference in casting distance between and casting setup vs a spinning setup, with the same lure?
It depends on what rod and reel you are using. I have three setups that can absolutely them out there. all are quite long rods one is 7'6" i use for hollow body frogs I would guess 40+ yards. another is an 8' flippin stick used for football jigs this one is probabily 50+ yd I use 15lb floro no backing and I get about half way through the spool. the last is a 8'6" rod I use for deep cranks and this one also uses 15lb floro and it is about half way through the spool again at full distance(50+ yds). want more distance on your casts use longer rods better bearings for your reels and or smaller diameter line.
Mitch
I once cast all the line out of an Shimano Antares that was full to capacity with 40 or 50 lb braid, I am not sure how far it was, but I had a reputable witness that frequents this forum on occasion. I cheated a bit though, since mid cast I loosened the tension control knob a bit and had a little tail wind. Nevertheless, unless you need to cast far (e.g. clear water, shallow water, spooky fish, etc.) you are just getting a workout and stroking an ego.
On 4/12/2013 at 2:54 AM, chromedog said:Ya, my brother is one of those that knows it all. lmao. But I knew it didn't seem possible. Does anyone think there is a difference in casting distance between and casting setup vs a spinning setup, with the same lure?
I would say on average and for your average angler the spinning cast farther. I think all the world records are set with bait-casters though.
Theres a video on you tube of David Fritts chucking a crankbait over 60the yard with a BB1
Well Mr Hajime Murata casted a shimano Antares 110 yards with a 5/8 casting plug. His performance starts at 6:30 minutes into the video.
I remember that performance rather well. I wish we had measured how much braid I actually had on there.
On 4/12/2013 at 3:13 AM, South FLA said:I once cast all the line out of an Shimano Antares that was full to capacity with 40 or 50 lb braid, I am not sure how far it was, but I had a reputable witness that frequents this forum on occasion. I cheated a bit though, since mid cast I loosened the tension control knob a bit and had a little tail wind. Nevertheless, unless you need to cast far (e.g. clear water, shallow water, spooky fish, etc.) you are just getting a workout and stroking an ego.
On 4/12/2013 at 2:54 AM, chromedog said:Ya, my brother is one of those that knows it all. lmao. But I knew it didn't seem possible. Does anyone think there is a difference in casting distance between and casting setup vs a spinning setup, with the same lure?
I sence a betting oppurtunity. Take your brother to the local football field and bet him $20 that he can't cast the lure of his choice from the one end zone line through the uprights on the other end. If he fails, you get $20 and if he succeeds, make sure to film it and put it on YouTube, because that would be an amazing feat and worth the $20 just to see.
As far as the spinning vs. casting question goes, that would be a good experiemnt. I suspect I can cast a baitcaster farther, but I never really tried bombing any lure with a spinning set-up, so I can't really say.
30 yards is good distance... but there are other variables in play that can aid in increasing casting distance. Lure weight, line size, type of line, rod length, rod action, and casters technique and of course the reel itself.
Ive paced off 43 yards plus or minus with my deep crankin rod using a 3/4 oz crank bait dummy.
Like brain said, im using decent equipment and do not see the 50 yard bombs some folks chat about.
Other than deep cranking or A rigs or somung like that, i really dont need the 40 yards.. id venture to say, most of what i do is inside of 20..
On 4/12/2013 at 3:30 AM, Lucky Craft Man said:I sence a betting oppurtunity. Take your brother to the local football field and bet him $20 that he can't cast the lure of his choice from the one end zone line through the uprights on the other end. If he fails, you get $20 and if he succeeds, make sure to film it and put it on YouTube, because that would be an amazing feat and worth the $20 just to see.
As far as the spinning vs. casting question goes, that would be a good experiemnt. I suspect I can cast a baitcaster farther, but I never really tried bombing any lure with a spinning set-up, so I can't really say.
Too funny, I was thinking the same thing. Time to put up or shut up for mr. big pants.
On 4/12/2013 at 3:24 AM, Dwight Hottle said:Well Mr Hajime Murata casted a shimano Antares 110 yards with a 5/8 casting plug. His performance starts at 6:30 minutes into the video.
I love his "roundhouse" casting technique! I may need to try that when casting Pounders for musky.
On 4/12/2013 at 3:24 AM, Dwight Hottle said:Well Mr Hajime Murata casted a shimano Antares 110 yards with a 5/8 casting plug. His performance starts at 6:30 minutes into the video.
Hey Chromedog, I hope this isn't your brother.
I am right there about the same distance for a majority of my fishing. But with my DD cranking rod, 7'6" MH with an ounce lure, I can consistantly reach out to 200 or more. My back yard is almost a perfect square acre, and casting across it is about 215ft feet. I'm usually right there from one end to the other, but a tailwind can push further if there weren't trees about 250 feet away.
That is my only exception.
a country mile or so...caught a bass in the next lake and had to drag that sucker through 2 corn fields to the lake i was on
I haven't measured per se but I have measured out the number of cranks to reel in a lure on my citica 6.5:1 and was over 50 revolutions of the handle so that puts the cast at approximately 35 yards or so. I wasn't really trying to whip it out there I was just trying to get an idea. When I go out this weekend I will be sure to really chuck one and see what happens.
On 4/12/2013 at 5:28 AM, ChrisAW said:I am right there about the same distance for a majority of my fishing. But with my DD cranking rod, 7'6" MH with an ounce lure, I can consistantly reach out to 200 or more. My back yard is almost a perfect square acre, and casting across it is about 215ft feet. I'm usually right there from one end to the other, but a tailwind can push further if there weren't trees about 250 feet away.
That is my only exception.
Wow. Thats 66-83 yards. Make a video of the cast and pacing it off. Post it on here. Id really like to see that.
When we get a calm day here in Michigan I will get the camera out. I know the exact measurement from our fence to the other side by our small garden is 215 feet. I'll try to get video casting from one to the other property line.
Cool deal!!
Your local high school football field, when vacant, is a good place to determine how far you can cast. Stand on the goal line with both feet in the same position you normally stand when casting and let fly. The grass doesn't hurt the line and yard markers are accurate. No telephone lines or trees to bother you and the field is level.
For all of you who believe they can cast over 50 yards, here is your chance to prove it. If you have a hula hoop, set it out where you think you can put the lure into it and practice accuracy at a distance.
This way you are using the rod/reel/line/lure you normally fish with.
You can also use the yard lines to measure the line and use a Sharpie to mark the line
Tom
100 yards is a looong way....
On 4/12/2013 at 2:26 AM, chromedog said:THis is awesome. I was just debating this with my brother. He feels he can cast a football field. I just don't find it possible, even throwing a 3/4 red eye shad or something. What is realistic for an able bodied person in their 30's?
Well in my thread here http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/115696-catching-fish-at-a-distance/ I use Google Earths measurement tool for the distance reading. I dont know the accuracy of the tool but the pic below has the object in the background. I get to that area with Fat Ikas, jigs w/craws. with 1/2- 3/4 oz RES much farther.
On 4/12/2013 at 3:24 AM, Dwight Hottle said:Well Mr Hajime Murata casted a shimano Antares 110 yards with a 5/8 casting plug. His performance starts at 6:30 minutes into the video.
Impressive video. But to be fair the plug was 21 grams, which is more like 3/4oz.
The info below the video says 5/8 oz not 3/4 oz but what's the difference . It could be whatever weight. The point is he casted 110 yards. That is 330 feet!
On 4/12/2013 at 10:59 AM, Dwight Hottle said:The info below the video says 5/8 oz not 3/4 oz but what's the difference . It could be whatever weight. The point is he casted 110 yards. That is 330 feet!
True. This guy and the reel are peerless.
I once spooled a Sponge Bob reel!
For me, I'd guesstimate 20 or 30 yards. I'd think that would probably be about the average but I could be way off base there.
Depends on the bait, rod and reel; but usually in the 30-35 yard range.
On 4/12/2013 at 9:56 AM, WRB said:Your local high school football field, when vacant, is a good place to determine how far you can cast. Stand on the goal line with both feet in the same position you normally stand when casting and let fly. The grass doesn't hurt the line and yard markers are accurate. No telephone lines or trees to bother you and the field is level.
For all of you who believe they can cast over 50 yards, here is your chance to prove it. If you have a hula hoop, set it out where you think you can put the lure into it and practice accuracy at a distance.
This way you are using the rod/reel/line/lure you normally fish with.
You can also use the yard lines to measure the line and use a Sharpie to mark the line
Tom
!! THIS! !
I built a guy an Alvey rod in the late 80's and it was spooled with 12 pound mono for surf perch. I used a 3/4 ounce weight and cast it 123 yards. Amazing set up.
Perhaps we need to change this to casting as far as possible (like casting contests), and casting in everyday fishing.
While 100 yards is a very long cast, is that the norm in everyday fishing? Perhaps a supertuned reel, the right weight, a rod that loads up well, is long enough, you can cast well beyond (as others have said).
My longest rod is 6'6". I can cast pretty far, but not near 100 yards. If the wind were behind me and I was lobbing a 3/4 oz weight, maybe I could hit 50 or 60. I don't really know.
Guess my point is there are many factors that contribute to long casts. I aim for accuracy over distance (as we all probably do).
I am a Licenced Land Surveyor and measuring distances is my business. Everyone, and I mean everyone, believes they can accurately measure distances with their "eyeball". The reality is that almost no one can.
When I first moved to NJ I was required to take NJ's hunter safety course to get a bow hunting licence. On the 3D course, everyone was given a card to write down their estimated distance to 10 targets at various distances along the course. The result was very telling. All distances were less than 40 yards (the effective range of a hunting bow). Out of 10 participants, no one was correct on any of the distances within 5 feet and only once did 2 out of the ten agree on the estimated distance. This was quite a humbling experience for all and especially me "an expert at measuring". In fairness to the participants, the targets were purposely arranged on pretty steep slopes and the purpose of the exersize was to show us that we will usually misjudge the distance somewhat. BTW almost all distance estimates were too long.
And as to the casting distance champions. The equipment they use can't be fairly compared to what most of us fish with. I don't have any rods over 12 feet long in my box and very few 6 ounce lures. JMHO
Ronnie
QuoteAnd as to the casting distance champions. The equipment they use can't be fairly compared to what most of us fish with. I don't have any rods over 12 feet long in my box and very few 6 ounce lures. JMHO
Yeah, casting competitions are a completely different world.
Don't know the distance, but I can and have cast onto the bank and into trees at times!!
I'd like to think that I can cast 100 yards, but I can't substantiate that. If I can cast 100 yards it would definitely be on my Abu C3 with a larger crankbait.
I can cast far enough to catch aplenty of fish.
On 4/13/2013 at 2:00 AM, newriverfisherman1953 said:Don't know the distance, but I can and have cast onto the bank and into trees at times!!
Sir, there are no fish in the trees.
I can easily cast 70 yards, into a strong head-wind, with my left hand, and my right hand tied behind my back. Send me 10.00 to my paypal account and I will share my casting distance "secret" with you.
Seems to me, and just judging by boat length, 30 yards is about right. Maybe 10 more if I want to tempt the back-lash gods.
On 4/13/2013 at 6:29 AM, greyleg33 said:Seems to me, and just judging by boat length, 30 yards is about right. Maybe 10 more if I want to tempt the back-lash gods.
This sounds pretty legit to me.
Ronnie
I often wondered how much distance I was REALLY getting when tossing 5/8oz lipless cranks. So, I measured out 100ft and 150ft distances using a 50ft tape measure in order to determine the "practical IPT" of the reel. I hooked the lipless crank to a peg at the "0" line, hit the clutch bar on the BC reel, walked out to the 100ft marker, then counted crank revolutions back to the 0 line. The reel (a 26" IPT rated / 6.4:1 ratio) took 47.75 revs - a "practical IPT" at 100 ft of 25.13 inches. Then walked back to 150 ft and reeled in - 75.3 revs - a 23.9" practical IPT at 150. This is with 10lb test line (a higher test line [larger diameter] will somewhat lower the practical IPT).
Then on the water while fishing - I count the revs to retrieve the bait. In still air, a very good cast is about 70 revs. My max cast is 75-76 cranks - right at 150 feet OF LINE OUT. Since you have a bow in the line as the bait splashes down, the actual linear distance is somewhat less - from 10 to 20 feet less. So, my best effort, max cast, with a lipless crank is from 130 to 140 feet. Of course, you still have to get a hookset when you get out this far...
Obviously, casting on land at known distances will give you the best measure of your actual distance - but calculating the "practical" IPT of your reel/line combination at your max casting range allows you to determine how far you're getting out while in a fishing situation.
On 4/13/2013 at 6:00 AM, Dwight Hottle said:Sir, there are no fish in the trees.
of course there are.......Limb Bream and the elusive OakBass! lol
This was actually a quote from a professional florida captain down in Marko Island fishing the 10,000 island area. Any time someone casted into the mangrove trees the guide would say "sir there are no fish in the trees" The second time some dodo casted into the trees the infamous captain would say, Sir there are no "friggin fish in the trees. Anyone dumb enough to cast into the trees a third time was totally humiliated by said guide in very obscene language.
Playing golf in the 50's on public golf courses there were no yardage markers on the course (maybe a 150 yd marker) and no hand held electronic measuring devices, players were able to dial in yardage pretty good. The depth perception is totally different on water, I don't have any idea how far I cast from a boat or from shore. A popular distance seems to be about 30 yds with average type equipment, I can buy that. I know from my own experience as well as observation that using a 10-12' surf rod, thin profile lure like a diamond jig distances of 100 yds and more are attainable, I've seen not much difference between casting and spinning. I've seen talk on surf forums of 100 yd casts and no one seems to debate it.
Idk... 50 yards? Never really crossed my mind.
On 4/12/2013 at 2:54 AM, chromedog said:Does anyone think there is a difference in casting distance between and casting setup vs a spinning setup, with the same lure?
For me, there's a huge difference. I can really wack the cxxxxp out of it with casting set up and get the distance. But with spinning set up, I am hesitant to swing it in full force, it shows in the distance. It's something about my index finger holding the line and weight when I back swing that makes it awkward for me.
i pry top out 35-40 yds. If I have a 3/4 Redye on my cranking rod. I don't do much deep cranking, so long distance casts are not crucial to me.
I don't know how far, but I do know this. I got my Revo's back from DVT and they cast further and smoother than when they were new. Fact is, any cast that doesn't hook a fish is just practice.
probably 20-30 yards without breaking a sweat. my new Chronarch on a 6'8" Crucial casts like a dream with 3 breaks on and spool tension adjusted to let the lure drop slowly when the spool is in free spin. This way I also get ZERO backlash. If I want to cast further, I keep 3 brakes on but remove all tension from spool using the knob next to the cranking handle, then my swim fluke will fly FAR, but the spool is backlashing more than i'm comfortable with and have to slow it down as the lure approaches the water. In this configuration I can probably push 40 yard mark.
Now, on my ocean surf rig with a 2oz pyramid weight and a dead fish on the hooks I can really make it fly using pendulum cast, I would say farthest I've ever was able to cast was pushing 70-80 yards... but nothing beats soliciting some help from a surfer buys on the beach, you ask them nicely and they'll paddle your lure few hundred yards out :-)
120 yards is regular for me.... Did you know that back in '82 I could throw a pigskin a quarter mile?
i can cast my lucky craft sammies the furthest. then the ol' lipless cb. i would be i can wind up & sling the sammie a little over 40 yards. everything else is under 40 probably. heck, i loaded a 7ft ML spinning rod with 15lb braid & a 10 foot flour leader so i can cast my wacky worm ( when rigged up with a trick worm & super light weight or none at all) around 20 yards.
Well there is distance casting and then again there is ‘real distance casting’. I used to often fish the early morning east tides at the Cape Cod Canal for striped bass. I used to walk down the service road to an area where a rip formed. Evidently this was a favorite area of Ron Arra, who would ride his bike to the area and fish alongside me. Ron was a 5 time National Surfcasting Distance Champion. The tackle utilized for distance competition was not suitable for fishing. The gear consisted of ultra stiff 13’ Zziplex rods, reworked (no level wind) and super tuned Abu 6500 reels, 12 lb mono with a 50 lb shocker and a 5 ¼ oz lead weight. They used a casting technique known as a pendulum cast. Ron was credited with a 758’ cast in competition and over 850’ in practice. He is reputed to have once cast across the Cape Cod Canal (at a distance of over 860’) with this distance tournament tackle.
Ron also designed a line of surf rods for Lamiglass which combined the attributes necessary for distance with those necessary for practical fishing.
Don’t expect to cast a lipped crankbait on a seven foot rod to the century mark (100 yards). The lure must be aerodynamic and heavy (1 or 2 or 3 ounces or more). The rod must be long and stiff with a fast action.
Ron would cast a Gibbs Polaris popper weighted to weigh around 5 ounces, with an 11 1/2 ‘ Lamiglass rod of his design, with a Newell P220 reel and 25 lb test Stren mono a long, long way. So far in fact that I wondered what he would do if a large striper inhaled his plug at the end of a long cast. It appeared he had only a few turns of line left on the reel.
In my experience the length of the rod had more influence on casting distance than any other factor. My 10’ surf rod would cast noticeably further than my 9’ surf rod.
So if you want to cast a long way get an aerodynamic lure like a Zara Spook or 1 ounce Rattletrap, a long stiff rod (8’), and lighter line (braid should excel here) and have at it. You probably will be able to reach out to 75 or 80 yards, maybe more.
Of course the disadvantages of fishing at that distance probably far outweigh the advantages.
On 4/14/2013 at 11:55 AM, scrutch said:120 yards is regular for me.... Did you know that back in '82 I could throw a pigskin a quarter mile?
But could you throw it over a mountain? Uncle Rico was classic.
Lucky, a few observations on casting.
1. Reels are designed to give maximum performance based on the number of yards for each specific line test. Not having enough line on the reel may hinder its performance. And be sure to turn off all magnets on the side of the reel.
2. Accuracy is more important than distance. Of course, if you are just chugging away and want to cast as far as you can without concern for hook setting power, balance the reel's specs with those of the rod as noted in 3 below and away you go.
3. Use the lighest line and heaviest bait and sinker weight the rod will accommodate as printed on the rod. Loosen the spool and drag. Cast overhead as hard as you can. Spend next twenty minutes removing backlash. So go outside and tie line to a tree or bush, etc., and walk away and then stop when you are far as you want to go holding the rod and reel in your hand and place one or two strips of Scotch tape over the remaining line on the spool. This will stop the backlash from going deeper.
You may also want to use a lighter rod such as a medium in lieu of a medium heavy or heavy. Just check the line test and bait and weight specifics and decide if you need a heavy, medium heavy or light rod. I will suggest using the heaviest rod you have.
4. Go in your yard and tie the line to a tree and then pull on the line after you have gone as far as you wantto cast it to stretch it. Then lay the rod and reel on the ground and walk back to the tree, chair, etc., and untie it without a bait or hook on the end and reel it back onto the spool running it through your fingers to put some pressure on it.
Then rig it with the bait and weight of your choice.
5. Spray your line guides with silicone or KVD Lure and Line Conditioner or Reel Magic.
6. Then go into your yard and start casting overhead slowly then faster and stronger. Walk to the bait when spooling the line on the reel after each cast to avoid line twist when reeling in the line. When you have done this three or four times you are ready to rear back and heave that sucker as far as you can. You can cast like the guys who fish saltwater off the beaches. Hard overhead casts. And you will have to decide if you want to tie the line to the reel so if you do hit the end of the line the reel will not be damaged or the line break off when the reel comes to a screeching stop.
7. Be sure you have oiled the reel, its pawl and line guide. Do not use greese. Use oil. Put greese inside the reel if necessary or have your reel serviced before you use it to cast as far as you can. A clean reel that is freshly greesed and oiled by a professional will really help your distance.
8. Be aware of where you are when casting. Not kidding. I have actually thrown myself into the water when casting into a pond. I heaved that sucker as hard as I could, lost my balance going forward, and away I went. Lucky for me no one was around and my keys and phone were in the SUV. I laughed for a few moments, got up, reeled in, and did it again. And be sure there are no plants or trees in the area. If you get the bait snagged on your hard cast you will have one heck of a backlash and you could damage the rod.
Good luck and let us know how far you can cast.
On 4/12/2013 at 9:43 PM, Alpster said:I am a Licenced Land Surveyor and measuring distances is my business. Everyone, and I mean everyone, believes they can accurately measure distances with their "eyeball". The reality is that almost no one can.
When I first moved to NJ I was required to take NJ's hunter safety course to get a bow hunting licence. On the 3D course, everyone was given a card to write down their estimated distance to 10 targets at various distances along the course. The result was very telling. All distances were less than 40 yards (the effective range of a hunting bow). Out of 10 participants, no one was correct on any of the distances within 5 feet and only once did 2 out of the ten agree on the estimated distance. This was quite a humbling experience for all and especially me "an expert at measuring". In fairness to the participants, the targets were purposely arranged on pretty steep slopes and the purpose of the exersize was to show us that we will usually misjudge the distance somewhat. BTW almost all distance estimates were too long.
And as to the casting distance champions. The equipment they use can't be fairly compared to what most of us fish with. I don't have any rods over 12 feet long in my box and very few 6 ounce lures. JMHO
Ronnie
Ronnie, ever try to measure across a river or stream? You never get it close.
At our American Legion crab feast we set up a golf ball shot across the Historic James River.
The north bank looks about 75 yards.
It is a lot more than that. Many guys can't hit the far bank and they say they can hit a golf ball 300 yards.
I agree with your post 100%. Good observation.
I decided one day, after reading an article that KVD can cast up to 70 yards to go across the street to the local HS football field and give it a shot. I tied on a strike king 6XD to try and replicate his cast. I was using a Skeet Reese 7' cranking rod and Quantum Energy PT 5.1:1 gear ratio reel with 12 pound fluoro. After casting I laid the rod down and walked to my lure. With no wind blowing on this day my furthest cast measured 51 yards. The average I figured was about 42 yards. I then picked up my Quantum tour edition 7.1:1 on a Abu Garcia Veritas 7' with 20 pound fluoro and put on a 1/2 ounce jig. The furthest cast with this was 38 yards and the average was about 32. So I know exactly where I stand. Spinnerbaits I know won't go nearly as far.
Maybe I've made the perfect cast and sent it out 50 yards with the wind at my back and all conditions perfect.
I bet typically my casting distance is 30 something yards
All the way to the fish.
An NBA court is 94 feet long 31.3yds wonder if I could lob a Spro frog from endline into far hoop.
On 4/12/2013 at 2:16 AM, Lucky Craft Man said:I always wondered how far I was able to cast a lure (more for the purposes of knowing how much line to put on a reel after putting filler on). Last Fall I was casting all the braid (just to the end) I had put on my A-Rig combo. I thought before I took all the braid off that reel and put on more, I would see how much line that truly was. I placed a portable line counter on my rod and used a line counting reel to wind up the braid (I wanted redundancy with the two line counters). I was surprised to learn that I was only casting out approximately 96 ft (one line counter read 96 ft. and the other read 97ft.). I felt like I was Bombing that A-Rig and in reality, if I stood on the end zone line, I could just cast over the 30 yard line. The good news is that I don't plan on ever using more than 50 yards of line on a reel (and those 150 yard spools I can use to fill 3 reels). I know in the past I was putting on way more line than this (I guess I was delusional of how much line I was really casting out).
Has anyone else ever measure how far they were really casting? I would like to see how my results corroborate with others.
only casting 97 feet?
I feel like this is pretty far. A major league baseball mound from the playe is like 65 feet.
On 4/15/2013 at 11:59 AM, QUAKEnSHAKE said:An NBA court is 94 feet long 31.3yds wonder if I could lob a Spro frog from endline into far hoop.
On 4/15/2013 at 12:13 PM, WhiteMike1018 said:only casting 97 feet?
I feel like this is pretty far. A major league baseball mound from the playe is like 65 feet.
Yeah, I was surprised I was that much of a sissy as well. I could have sworn I was throwing it farther, but actual measurments don't lie.
On 4/15/2013 at 12:13 PM, WhiteMike1018 said:only casting 97 feet?
I feel like this is pretty far. A major league baseball mound from the playe is like 65 feet.
60 feet, 6 inches.
Despite all this interesting talk about distance.........accuracy is where casting really shines. That's what I *** about the guys fishing at the pro level. I'm sure there are a handful here that are pretty darn good with accuracy. Some of these pros can light a match stick with their baits if it where sticking out of a dock edge.
I've got a bit of "oompff' to throw behind a big swimbait with a rod that loads up and absolutely launches a bait and I still can't get more than 50 yards, max.
Give me a pyramid weight and it might be a different story but not much. Never caught a fish on a pyramid weight either.
I checked today for giggles.
Dobyns 745
lews TP 7.1, supertuned and boca7s
1/2 football head jig
rage craw trailer
20# tatsu
ripped a overhead cast to just over 40 yards but not quite 45.
main question is, who the hell fishes a jig 40 yards away?
I have casted a lure easily 100 yards, unfortunately after about 3 of those yards it was longer attached to my line.
On 4/16/2013 at 11:56 AM, Ima Bass Ninja said:I have casted a lure easily 100 yards, unfortunately after about 3 of those yards it was longer attached to my line.
It's funny how far a lure will fly when it no longer attached to you line.
On 4/16/2013 at 6:07 PM, CoBass said:It's funny how far a lure will fly when it no longer attached to you line.
Mine usually go completely out of sight. :~)
A lot of factors determine how far your casting. I think if you don't maintain your reels bearings properly you will lose distance. How tight the drag is another. Heck some reels just flat out cast further then other models. Casting with heavy wind can add an extra 10 -15 yards. Rod length. Type of line. How heavy the lure is. etc etc
On 4/12/2013 at 2:16 AM, Lucky Craft Man said:I always wondered how far I was able to cast a lure (more for the purposes of knowing how much line to put on a reel after putting filler on). Last Fall I was casting all the braid (just to the end) I had put on my A-Rig combo. I thought before I took all the braid off that reel and put on more, I would see how much line that truly was. I placed a portable line counter on my rod and used a line counting reel to wind up the braid (I wanted redundancy with the two line counters). I was surprised to learn that I was only casting out approximately 96 ft (one line counter read 96 ft. and the other read 97ft.). I felt like I was Bombing that A-Rig and in reality, if I stood on the end zone line, I could just cast over the 30 yard line. The good news is that I don't plan on ever using more than 50 yards of line on a reel (and those 150 yard spools I can use to fill 3 reels). I know in the past I was putting on way more line than this (I guess I was delusional of how much line I was really casting out).
Has anyone else ever measure how far they were really casting? I would like to see how my results corroborate with others.
You shoudl still put more than 50 yards of line on a reel even though you only usually cast 30yds. This allows for extra line in case of a breakoff or for tying extra lures. Also if a big fish takes your line and your drag starts screaming, youre in trouble. it could run your spool dry and steal all of your line.
When you are trying to cast for distance do most of you usually do a over head cast? I rarely cast that way my self and would say almost every cast I make is some form of roll cast. It is basically just how I cast and I don't event think about it. Even if I do a over head cast or load my rod up way back to the side of me and let it rip they all achieve the same as a good and fast roll cast.
I said in another topic about the same thing I can spool a reel full of 65# braid with things like spooks and traps. I'm not sure but it is probably 50 yards maybe. You ever try and work a spook back on a 50 yard cast? Half way through you think we'll I have had enough of that and just reel the thing in....
"Back in 82 I could throw a pigskin a quarter mile"
With a 7-1 or 7-2 jig rod and a 1/2 ounce jig I hit the 40 yard marker. With my cranking rigs, I'll hit the 55 yard marker easily.
859.52 feet = 286.5 yards
On 4/12/2013 at 3:24 AM, Dwight Hottle said:Well Mr Hajime Murata casted a shimano Antares 110 yards with a 5/8 casting plug. His performance starts at 6:30 minutes into the video.
I typically cast about a quarter of that, but my technique is pretty conventional. Bet that guy has the boat all to himself!
I bank fish on a river channel at times. I recall using a 9/16 oz. lipless crank, letting her rip, and beaching the lure on the opposite side of the river. A few days later I went out on my yak and counted the distance between both side best I could, and came up with approx. 80 yards. Keep in mind trap style baits cast like bullets, and I was using a TDZ with a really light spool, ceramic spool bearings, and braided line. Needless to say, I could cast it much further than I would really ever need to. Of course these results are gonna very based on the shape and size of the presentation.
On 4/12/2013 at 3:30 AM, Lucky Craft Man said:As far as the spinning vs. casting question goes, that would be a good experiemnt. I suspect I can cast a baitcaster farther, but I never really tried bombing any lure with a spinning set-up, so I can't really say.
I measured my casts from my driveway to a neighbor's mailbox that I can hit about 1/2 the time; it's 35 yards away. I can almost reach it with my best spinning rig (US Reel 230, 10 lb flouro, 7' MH rod, 1/2 oz weight) and can cast a yard or two past with my best baitcaster (7' Med rod, 1/2 oz weight, 12 lb flouro). Braid would probably cast farther.
For reference: I can consistently outcast most of the fishing partners I've gone with over the years with the spinning rig.
On 4/18/2013 at 7:58 AM, keith71 said:"Back in 82 I could throw a pigskin a quarter mile"
Repeat...Repeat...Repeat....Repeat...
http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/116629-how-far-can-you-cast/page-5
I can cast about 30 yards with just about any lure over 1/4 oz. on a Lews TP. Lipless cranks are the exception though. I can probably cast them 50 yards..
All the way down to a bass's mouth
I can cast 50 yds.
it really depends on the rod, reel and weight on throwing....also whether the reel has a level wind or not(non levelwind reels can cast further and you can lay the line on more at an angle to get it to peel off the reel faster) etc etc...not sure when im bass fishing but flats fishing im using an 8ft rod with a fast action that will throw more than 40 yards and surf casting we are using 13 or 14ft rods and non levelwind reels hitting over 100 yards easy (all are also custom rods)
we know we are casting these distances cause we used to mess around on soccer fields with line counters and those wheel counters that electricians and such use
I cast far enough to catch fish...
I used to be able to go a decent distance past 30 without any problem but these days my shoulder is bone-on-bone and held together with duct tape...30 is about my limit unless I don't want the use of my shoulder the next day. The darn thing burns enough with normal use...
Most of my bass fishing is probably no more than 20 yds or so for a few reasons. Shorter rods, lighter baits, and the places if fish don't require distance.
Saltwater can have a wider range of distances, more variables come into play for me. Not that I actually measure but can get a good idea. If I'm waters level into the wind maybe 20 yds, wind at my back could be 40 yds. Fishing an elevated position from a jettie, into the wind I doubt that it's much more than 20 yds or so, but wind at my back, thin profile lure like a diamond jig, 8' rod, up to 100 yds wouldn't surprise me, others with 10-12' rods are casting right by me. I think some of distances are exaggerated just like some fish stripping out 50 yds of line, that's a long way and most 8# fish can't do that, unless your in free spool.
On 4/13/2013 at 6:00 AM, Dwight Hottle said:Sir, there are no fish in the trees.
That's not quite true. I've seen fish In trees...............................................................................that are caught by fishing birds.
Now, as to how far I can cast. I can, and have, cast too far, and have ended up in the shoreline rocks and vegetation.
A golf expression is quite appropriate here, "Drive for show, putt for dough." It's another way of saying that accuracy is more important than distance.
On 7/28/2013 at 4:10 PM, Fishing Rhino said:
................Now, as to how far I can cast. I can, and have, cast too far, and have ended up in the shoreline rocks and vegetation.
Yup - I put a near-new Norman Deep Little N up in a tree just yesterday - and it's still there......
A country mile.
Naw I really have no clue. Far enough to hit whatever I'm trying to hit. Usually about 20 to 30 yards.
Ha, I was just thinking about this too.
I've done some really long casts with some big cranks and jerkbaits with nanofil line on spinning gear. About 50 yards according to google (from the dock to hitting the bank).
One time a strong wind blew something I was casting around 70 yards according to that map.
I think a medium rod with 6 lb nanofil and a 3/4 oz jerkbait would get some of the longest casts bass gear can do. That's not practical for normal use though. I think the 50 yard casts were with 12 lb nanofil and a 1/2 oz lure.
Making longer casts from shore pays off but you can lose big bass that far out I have. I can cast 35 to 45 yards. I out cast everyone near me they come over to tell me they never see anyone cast that far. My line and rod eyes have a shot of reel magic on them plus my 7' rod is casting a 5/8oz topnocker. I drench it with scents on my very first cast. I use a very long cast first to get my scents out there. It's like walking around the house smelling the turkey cooking you just have to find where it's conning from.
The longest cast I have ever seen was my older brother with his 13' custom built harnnel rod. I could pick him out on a crowded dock by his cast. It looked like a rocket propelled lure. I would say at least 75 yards++maybe out to 100yards. That rod was like fishing with a telephone pole. Being able to cast from shore pays off he would come home with 50"+ strippers. He had everyone fooled in the bait shop fooled that he had a boat to keep them from asking him where his spot was from shore. I know right where it is since he passed on. He was my mentor on fishing and hunting ethics. He taught me to do the right thing, the pheasants need to be flying when we shoot them. I've seen him jump in gravel shallows to grab a 21" rainbow that came off at his feet. He got it what an awesome fish. God does take the angels first.
He always said to keep on fishing and thell turn on sooner or later. Funny it never happened to us when he was alive but one night in a crowd of other fisherman I caught bass after bass in front of everyone. I looked up at the sky and told my brother to knock it off these people are going to throw me in the water. It stopped just like that. I will fish with him in the next life.
It's not how big your cast is. It's how you wiggle your worm ...
I just measured on google maps using the scale and my average cast is about 35 yards, but with some lures I can get 55 yards.
I've been using a baitcaster for about a month now and I can cast a 3/8 lure about 30yards or so. With the wind maybe and extra 10?
I have found a technique that works for me very consistently. I start my cast sidearm then roll the reel over so its now pointing down towards the ground. I also hold the bottom of my rod with my free hand for added leverage. I'm sure the technique isn't new but it sure is a good feeling being able to huck a lure a nice distance. Way farther than my spinning set up.
I use a Revo SX (3rd gen) and 7' mh AG Vertias rod 15 lb mono. The reel casts and retrieves like butter.
The only time longer casts are really needed is to reach fish more out of range than normal, most of my strikes are usually within an easy comfortable cast. The problem with mega casts is getting a good hook set, having to retrieve the fish from a longer distance giving it more of chance to get unbuttoned. I also think fatigue may come into play as well. Given a choice I'd prefer to sight cast to a given a spot where I see activity and the potential of getting a strike, that said there are those times when ya gotta turn it on.
I tested it with both my rods.
With a 6'6" rod baitcasting reel, 30 lb smooth braid, a 3/8 oz practice weight, I could get 53 yds.
With a 8'0" rod and same setup... 70 yds.
Clearly, lure, rod, line, and wind condition influence the results. I can believe Kevin can regularly cast 70 yds, but to be honest... what impresses me more is when he can hit a 1 sqft patch of water under a dock from 15 yds. That's just ridiculous.
D
Hello,
I mostly cast for practice. When I cast for distance, it's because I want hang time to analyze a reel I've just tuned.
My casting measurements are accurate. They are done on the range I use for bow shooting.
The range is a max of 40 yards. When using a 5/8oz or heavier weight, any of the rods or reels I use will go over 40 yards and bit into the trees. 1/2 oz steel weight will go 35-40 yards.
Once, using a reel I'm still tuning, I cast a 1-1/4oz (or so) weight into a tree about 50 feet up at 40 yards. I'm not sure how I did that, and have no idea how far it would have gone had the tree not been there.
This has been done with Abu Garcia Ambassadeur 5xxx series reels from the '60s to 2014.
Rods have been a Cherrywood 5'6" MH, Jupiter M and MH (6'6" and 7'0", respectively), a BPS 5'6" MH, and a Daiwa "Bill Dance" 5'6" MH rod.
The longest practical casts I make when fishing range from 30 to 35 yards using original Zara Spooks (3/4oz, IIRC), a variety of 1/2oz+ crankbaits, and 1/2oz+ jigs with trailers, and heavy spinnerbaits.
Non-aerodynamic lures will cast from 20 to 25 yards.
I use centrifugal brakes and minimum spool tension. My best spool tension settings are between letting the spool overrun one turn to letting it fluff just a bit without actually backlashing. This allows me to use my thumb to control any fluffing during the cast, but it's far less forgiving than the traditional recommended settings.
Josh
Like others have said its all about the setup, the weight, the lure, the rod, the reel, and most important the weather conditions. 90% of the time I am casting to targets some close, some far. The one variable I try to control is the weather. Before going out on a trip I always check the weather and wind direction. Because our waters are clear to lightly stained, staying in stealth mode is a key factor. I try to stay off the trolling motor as much as possible and let the wind push you past targets. With the wind from my back it is easy to make long casts without backlash problems even with weightless plastics. I use a sea anchor to slow the boat down on windy days, that works great. If you need long casts they are easy to make. Eliminate as many head aches as possible, the goal is to make it fun. That's the plan!!!!!!!
Casting distance for my personal bass fishing needs is a result of a balanced & properly tuned set up.
If I can't quit reach my target accurately, I'll move the boat closer.
On a side note; my last 3 lmb PB's were all less than 15 yards from the boat when they hit.
So although long bomb casts are fun, they have yet to help in that area.
A-Jay
On 9/28/2014 at 10:43 PM, Josh Smith said:Hello,
Non-aerodynamic lures will cast from 20 to 25 yards.
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Josh
Yeah, like spinnerbaits that have the aerodynamic sleekness if a friggin´ kite !
Or jerkbaits without weight transfer like the Original Rapala Minnow where you put all the muscle, technique and spirit just to make it land at your feet.
In reality, long casts are important when you try to place your bait but you can´t get closer to the target, so, in certain circumstances and places can be whan somebody is limited or forced to cast on a fixed position, in other words, when you fish from shore, when you fish from a watercraft you can always move closer.
If there is a 1oz blade bait in production, spool up a baitcaster with 10lb mono and the results would be scary.
On 4/12/2013 at 3:24 AM, Dwight Hottle said:Well Mr Hajime Murata casted a shimano Antares 110 yards with a 5/8 casting plug. His performance starts at 6:30 minutes into the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSxzZqk3pSY
Yup, Antares is a beast of a reel. I know he also said how DC LV can get further distance than Antares; its definitely been in production for a long time for a reason ^^. I wonder how much I can cast with my Conquest if I spool it up with some 30 pound braid, unfortunately I cant bear the thought of the line staining my rod/reel.
90-100 feet (35 yards +/-) can be considered a long cast as far as practical fishing goes. There are all kinds of factors that affect the maximum possible distance. The golf analogy of "Drive for show, putt for dough" applies here. Accuracy trumps distance 99% of the time.
Based on how far I sent a CBD20 flying after it snapped off in the middle of the cast, I'd say that's how you want to cast for distance. Fray your fluoro just enough to hold on the back swing, but snap at the perfect moment when you release. Had to be a football field or more, lol.
I can usually cast far enough to hit the water.
On the other hand, about the only time I cast over 30 yards is when the overhanging branches are 28 yards away.
What happened to the guy who claimed he could spool a tatula with 135 yards of line on it?? Haha
Just want to bump this post up.On 4/12/2013 at 9:56 AM, WRB said:Your local high school football field, when vacant, is a good place to determine how far you can cast. Stand on the goal line with both feet in the same position you normally stand when casting and let fly. The grass doesn't hurt the line and yard markers are accurate. No telephone lines or trees to bother you and the field is level.
For all of you who believe they can cast over 50 yards, here is your chance to prove it. If you have a hula hoop, set it out where you think you can put the lure into it and practice accuracy at a distance.
This way you are using the rod/reel/line/lure you normally fish with.
You can also use the yard lines to measure the line and use a Sharpie to mark the line
Tom
There is a lot of questionable threads regarding how far a bass angler can cast their lures. Been fishing for several decades with a lot of good anglers, very few can cast further. 50 yards is a very long cast with bass tackle, unless you are talking about specialized swimbait or crank bait rods/reels, then 60+ yards is realistic for expert casters.
Tom
When I look at most of the bass I've caught while bank fishing or in my kayak, it seems most have been within a comfortable easy cast. In fact, I don't really remember catching any bass while making super long casts. The only thing I get from those very long casts is a shore shoulder.
I can get 50+ yds on a 1/2 oz crankbait, 12 lb mono, and a long rod, 7 ft 6 in +.
Hello,
I just put spool bearings in my old '60s 5000 I use regularly. It's still a great reel other than being slightly noisy when cranking. It has a steel drive gear and this is likely the reason.
Anyway...
This thing is on a 5'6" Daiwa MH "Bill Dance Spinnerbait" rod.
It as a polished worm gear, two spool bearings, two worm gear bearings, a cog gear bearing, and a crankshaft bearing. I guess in modern parlance it would be a 5+1.
Everything is highly polished. Slow moving stuff is polished at 2000 grit, and high-speed stuff is polished at 3000 grit.
I flicked my wrist and sent a 1oz weight over 40 yards. How much over I have no idea. It was stopped by dense vegetation at the 40 yard mark.
The spool tension doesn't brake enough now, so I'll have to go back to medium brakes from light brakes.
Regards,
Josh
I can throw 3/4 oz lipless crankbaits and Sammys a lot further than I have to, I think 40 yards would be a good ball park estimate
Keep casting as hard as you can guys! I got a new lure picker to get your baits out of the trees and keep for myself, lol.
On 9/30/2014 at 9:20 PM, J Francho said:Keep casting as hard as you can guys! I got a new lure picker to get your baits out of the trees and keep for myself, lol.
Except with braid, I tend to cut small branches that would cause grief with mono.
Josh
On 9/30/2014 at 10:46 PM, Josh Smith said:Except with braid, I tend to cut small branches that would cause grief with mono.
Josh
I've got plenty of baits out of trees with short lengths of braid attached to them. Bad thing about braid is it will dig into the tree branch too, and it only takes a wrap or two to do it. Then you have to cut it since it's almost impossible to pull and break. Sometimes if you have to break a bait off in a tree with mono that rubberband effect will knock the bait out of the tree, which is good or bad depending on the trees location and if your bait floats or sinks
I just lightened the cog gear and that took off enough momentum to go back to the light brakes.
This stuff is fun!
Josh