I use to watch LFG and Lunkers years ago back when they weren’t famous, and I actually had the privilege of meeting LFG at the Gibbons Creek Reservoir boat ramp a couple years ago, he seemed very cool and down to earth. About a year ago I completely stopped watching their videos. They seemed to have turned into typical big time You-tubers. Their videos have gone down in quality, they flex their wealth, and they put out a **** ton of merchandise( in this case, Googan Baits). And the videos that they do fish, they don’t go out to Rayburn or Toledo Bend, they go to private farm ponds where the fish will eat anything that hits the water. I’ll also add they’re not very educational, not that they could teach me anything I didn’t already know, but since little kids watch their content you would think they would at least commentate what they’re doing. I’ve since moved on and watch TacticalBassin’ religiously. Am I being too harsh, or do y’all feel the same way?
What’s the Googan Squad?
Youtubers
I never understood the obsession people have with them.
I think their followers are usually kids.
Whatever floats your boat.
I have noticed others on this site have been ripping on them lately.
Love em or hate em, they're not going anywhere. Just unsubscribe and refuse to watch like I do.
I hadn't heard of this crew until people on this forum expressed their disapproval. You guys are giving them a ton of publicity! ????
I used to watch a few of their videos, but not anymore. In a lot of their newer videos they only catch a few fish, and the rest is filled with them talking about their sponsors and their baits.
I remember when a few of them started out with videos geared for beginner fishermen. Wished they would’ve stayed true to their roots because this over commercialization on pushing their new brand is getting so obnoxious. It’s a lot of flash and push-marketing that’s really lost my respect for a “squad” of popular Youtubers who just hit ‘copy and paste’ on other brand’s soft plastics. Nothing innovative at all here.
I’ll only say one positive note. And I strongly believe this. I think they are role models for early generations and inspire younger anglers to get excited for a sport that needed to attract millennials to stop playing Fortnite and experience the outdoors.
I really don't dislike them, I just wish they would act a little more responsible for the millions of young fans they have. Because of their antics, you can be sure that there will be young, first time kayakers thinking it's OK not to wear PFDs, or even worse, not even have them in the kayaks.
never heard of them
Onerod, one of the original Googans always had the best content anyway. He is nice, does things like picking up trash and doesn't act like an egotistical maniac.
As far as YouTube fishing goes I have always watched a lot of the BassResource videos, Tactical Bassin, Realistic Fishing, 1Rod and Mad River Outfitters. Other than that I occasionally watch some Scott/Roland Martin videos and the In Fisherman guys but have always steered away from most of the Googan stuff because they don't teach anything and they try to be entertaining but aren't...
My Lund is featured twice in one of their videos for a split second. At the 7:12 and 7:22 marks . Coincidentally, this is the same kid in @Harold Scoggins first 2 pictures. From an outdoors standpoint, I don't care for them or their antics. From a capitalist standpoint, more power to them. At 20 years old I was washing cars at a dealership trying to support my newborn son and wife. These kids are making bank.
While I wasn't in the money at this tournament, I did get a couple nice ones.
A bunch of punk kids. The one in question in the pictures here has an extremely punchable face. Ive watched alot of their videos and they seem to thrive off conflict just to get subscribers, he loves to fish "private" waters without permisison that they shouldnt be in, has gotten the cops called on him numerous times, and was kicked off a flight at the airport in one of their videos. There is another one where they just decide to start doing some diving on a jetty in Lake Michigan and promptly get the coast guard called on them.
Another video I saw the hotel asked him to move his boat because it was taking up half the parking lot and he strung his charging cord in a bad spot. Instead of just moving his boat he has to start a bunch of drama and gets kicked out.
I would never give a dime to these little punks, their baits are nothing new most people can spend far less money and catch the same amount of fish.
On 7/6/2019 at 10:19 AM, slonezp said:My Lund is featured twice in one of their videos for a split second. At the 7:12 and 7:22 marks . Coincidentally, this is the same kid in @Harold Scoggins first 2 pictures. From an outdoors standpoint, I don't care for them or their antics. From a capitalist standpoint, more power to them. At 20 years old I was washing cars at a dealership trying to support my newborn son and wife. These kids are making bank.
While I wasn't in the money at this tournament, I did get a couple nice ones.
I had a brief stint in one of Flair's videos in a 3vs2 tournament. My favorite part was when I told him what "our" (I use that term very loosely as I was paired with his 2 buddies that contributed nothing to our total), weight and it was more than theirs, it was "might have beaten us". I'm not the smartest guy, but if one number is bigger than the other in a weight based fishing competition, the person with the heavier weight has won, no "might have" to it.
@Bluebasser86So Blue, are thinking about joining the Googan Squad anytime soon?! Haha
On 7/6/2019 at 12:53 PM, Dorado said:@Bluebasser86So Blue, are thinking about joining the Googan Squad anytime soon?! Haha
I'm about as complete opposite of them as you can get. I forget to turn the camera on half the time in my videos anyways.
On 7/6/2019 at 12:58 PM, Bluebasser86 said:I'm about as complete opposite of them as you can get. I forget to turn the camera on half the time in my videos anyways.
Trust me, I know. I subscribe to your channel and it’s just good ol’ catching. Even rods too ????
Done been tired of them. Back before they all teamed up and got really big I watched a few of them. They were just kids my age or a little younger going fishing. Somewhat educational, mostly just entertaining to watch them fish. Now they are obnoxious, insufferable tools who have let internet fame and wealth change them. Half their videos aren't even fishing anymore.
Good anglers to watch are:
NDYakAngler
Chad Hoover
Alex Rudd
Tactical Bassin
Flukemaster
KickinTheirBassTV (he's loud, full of energy and young, but he actually just fishes and teaches and has respect)
DEBO
Bamabass
On 7/6/2019 at 9:54 AM, JediAmoeba said:Onerod, one of the original Googans always had the best content anyway. He is nice, does things like picking up trash and doesn't act like an egotistical maniac.
As far as YouTube fishing goes I have always watched a lot of the BassResource videos, Tactical Bassin, Realistic Fishing, 1Rod and Mad River Outfitters. Other than that I occasionally watch some Scott/Roland Martin videos and the In Fisherman guys but have always steered away from most of the Googan stuff because they don't teach anything and they try to be entertaining but aren't...
1Rod1Reel distanced himself from the Googans and actually turned down the opportunity to be part of their group and business. He discussed it recently and said that they were just going different directions and he wished the best for them. Which is to say, he knew they were clowns.
I only subscribe to Tacticalbassin. Three videos a week of useful info. Watched a couple of the googan videos and that was enough.
On 7/6/2019 at 1:12 PM, Glaucus said:Good anglers to watch are:
NDYakAngler
Chad Hoover
Alex Rudd
Tactical Bassin
Flukemaster
KickinTheirBassTV (he's loud, full of energy and young, but he actually just fishes and teaches and has respect)
DEBO
Bamabass
I focus my attention towards kayak fishing and rigging, however, I will watch others if their purpose is to teach. Yep, this old dog is always looking for new tricks. Speaking of "old," I use to watch Gene Jensen until a few years ago, he mentioned to a group that "forums were for old people" and that he didn't want to hang out on them because YT was what the younger folks wanted. I considered that a slap in the face directed towards people who still know how and enjoy reading. Don't take me wrong, I enjoy watching YT, but I dread the day when our youth beats feet across the lake to the likes of the Googans because they are "dope" and they leave the old man in the straw hat sitting alone in his john boat - thinking he has nothing to contribute. Even as a younger man in my twenties, I always made time for the "old salts" who first taught me how to fish.
Postscript: @Bluebasser86, you're really in a Googan video? (no pun intended)
On 7/6/2019 at 7:26 PM, Harold Scoggins said:I focus my attention towards kayak fishing and rigging, however, I will watch others if their purpose is to teach. Yep, this old dog is always looking for new tricks. Speaking of "old," I use to watch Gene Jensen until a few years ago, he mentioned to a group that "forums were for old people" and that he didn't want to hang out on them because YT was what the younger folks wanted. I considered that a slap in the face directed towards people who still know how and enjoy reading. Don't take me wrong, I enjoy watching YT, but I dread the day when our youth beats feet across the lake to the likes of the Googans because they are "dope" and they leave the old man in the straw hat sitting alone in his john boat - thinking he has nothing to contribute. Even as a younger man in my twenties, I always made time for the "old salts" who first taught me how to fish.
Postscript: @Bluebasser86, you're really in a Googan video? (no pun intended)
There's a place for both forums and YouTube. They are not the same. Forums allow us to interact directly and get questions answered, and YouTube gives us a visual reference. Those picking one or the other are in error.
NDYakAngler and Chad Hoover are exclusively kayak anglers who have great content. ND seems about 35 and is the calmest most easiest to watch angler I've ever seen. Chad seems about 50 and is a little more eccentric but very cool, easy to watch, and informative. ND has the best river Smallie content on YouTube. Check him out. Chad too. I think you'll like them.
Like many others on here, I used to watch a few of them before they had all the sponsors and baits and whatnot. Now I have completely stopped watching their videos as they now just come across as obnoxious IMO. Now I only watch Tactical Bassin (very informative) and for entertainment BamaBass and Flukemaster. Occasionally KickinTheirBass
NDYakAngler just uploaded a froggin kayak video. Example of his awesomeness.
I'm surprised this young man doesn't have more subscribers, but I think the Fish the Moment channel is one of the best, if not the best I've seen for pure instruction. I watch Roland's channel because I've been a fan for decades. I watch Scott Martin's channel mostly because of Roland but I have to struggle to like him. I'm a multi-species fisherman so I'll watch anything the Lindner group puts out. For sheer overall fishing knowledge, I don't think Al Lindner can be beat.
Check out Fish the Moment. It's well worth the time.
On 7/6/2019 at 8:32 PM, billmac said:I'm surprised this young man doesn't have more subscribers, but I think the Fish the Moment channel is one of the best, if not the best I've seen for pure instruction. I watch Roland's channel because I've been a fan for decades. I watch Scott Martin's channel mostly because of Roland but I have to struggle to like him. I'm a multi-species fisherman so I'll watch anything the Lindner group puts out. For sheer overall fishing knowledge, I don't think Al Lindner can be beat.
Check out Fish the Moment. It's well worth the time.
Fish the Moment is one of my new favorites. What a guy.
I was tired of them after I watched about 30 seconds of one of their videos.
They do stupid stuff, are competent anglers at best, and aren't my cup of tea, but they have found a niche in the industry. I'm sure there is a lot of work that goes on behind the scenes. More power to them. In this world of Kardashians, and other like minded reality social media "stars" views Trump content, ethics, and civility, so why not. You don't like it? Change the channel, problem solved.
I watched some of them individually (LFG, JonB & Flair), but tired of them quickly once they started teaming up and became more interested in their own celebrity than in interesting/useful content. Lunkers and AP have always rubbed me the wrong way.
To be fair though, the Googans aren't the only youtube channels I've become tired of. Flukemaster and Chad Hoover can't seem to stay on topic any more. I still find 1Rod entertaining but a little bit of him goes a long way.
These days I subscribe to Glenn's channel, KeeipinItReel (he hasn't posted much recently), NDYakAngler, Tactical Bassin, Fish Code Studios, and The Nature of Fishing (Paul Roberts' channel!)
On 7/6/2019 at 8:32 PM, billmac said:Check out Fish the Moment. It's well worth the time.
I second the motion. The entertainment value is near zero.(which is a plus for me) The information value is at the top! Jonny is a very respectful and intelligent young man. His videos are very informative and are professionally done. I'm sure I'm 20+ years older than him yet I have learned things from watching his channel. Well worth the effort.
I didn't mind Jon B's earlier videos when they were separate individuals. Now that they are a group, it's just painful to watch. Some of their stunts are just plain dangerous. Considering their target audience, it's scary that they may have influence over the younger generation. Much better channels to watch for knowledge and Entertainment than the Googans.
Tactical bassin
Debo
Online outdoorsman
And many others offer far more quality content.
Most of their videos now are about doing stupid things. I don't have a problem with rednecks at all, but they take that stuff to the extreme. Shooting and blowing stuff up in the most obnoxious "Murica" way possible to show how patriotic and b@d@ss they are. It makes a fool of them and the people they pretend to represent and creates dangerous situations. It's like they've become the fishing version of the TV show Jackass, except they barely fish anymore; it's just videos of stupid stunts, pushing their products, and flaunting their money. Then they throw the random fishing video in there fishing their cheap Favorite rods with $500 Shimano reels to fool kids into buying (or their parents buying) them.
6 hours ago, Harold Scoggins said:Postscript: @Bluebasser86, you're really in a Googan video? (no pun intended)
I really was, click on the video I posted above, I linked it just before I'm in the video so you don't have to suffer through the rest for the 20 seconds I'm in it.
The dislike i used to have for them was rooted in my own jealousy. Especially when they came to my home lake and turned the place into a mad house all summer long. Its turned into a sort of admiration. More power to those guys. (Not an avid follower or even subscriber. Just a fellow fisherman)
On 7/6/2019 at 10:20 PM, BassWhole! said:They do stupid stuff, are competent anglers at best, and aren't my cup of tea, but they have found a niche in the industry. I'm sure there is a lot of work that goes on behind the scenes. More power to them. In this world of Kardashians, and other like minded reality social media "stars" views Trump content, ethics, and civility, so why not. You don't like it? Change the channel, problem solved.
On 7/7/2019 at 3:20 AM, clh121787 said:The dislike i used to have for them was rooted in my own jealousy. Especially when they came to my home lake and turned the place into a mad house all summer long. Its turned into a sort of admiration. More power to those guys. (Not an avid follower or even subscriber. Just a fellow fisherman)
I do not mind that they exist, or that they have had success filling some apparent pent-up demand within the industry for Fishing-Related Stupid Stuff.
But the last thing they need is "more power".
On 7/7/2019 at 5:22 AM, MIbassyaker said:But the last thing they need is "more power".
So more light line finesse fishing videos and Googan® drop shot baits?
Do they even know the origin of the word?
On 7/7/2019 at 5:25 AM, BassWhole! said:So more light line finesse fishing videos and Googan® drop shot baits?
Do they even know the origin of the word?
The baits are a missed opportunity, really.
I kind of wanted to see actual Googan-shaped plastics. Little plastic googans in a bag. Like a pack of actual little plastic LunkersTVs; they could have little American Flag impressions on the back. Or an oversized 14" Flair worm with Flair's head, making his characteristic all-purpose open-mouth facial expression on the front end.
Not sure how well they'd fish, but they would be a lot of fun to rig....
I don't care for any of them except for LFG. He seems like a great guy and his videos can be pretty entertaining. He used to do more instructional videos before going to a vlog format but I still like to watch him. The rest are idiots, plain and simple.
Googan plastics are actually good and you can fight me. Lol
I don't get why some people complain about the price of googan baits, but will willingly fork over 2 dollars more for senkos.
Both are over priced, but then again I'm on a yum dinger budget.
On 7/7/2019 at 11:15 AM, Wacky Zac said:I don't get why some people complain about the price of googan baits, but will willingly fork over 2 dollars more for senkos.
Both are over priced, but then again I'm on a yum dinger budget.
Because Senkos are proven to be one of the best bass baits of all time and none of the knock offs perform on the same level as a Senko.
I like Googan plastics but nothing they did is ground breaking and they're easily replaceable by better.
I'm turning into a grumpy old man at the age of 28. But It reminds me of the direction of country music. I don't like bro country and I don't like bro fishing.
I see some people say its good for the sport. Getting younger people interested in fishing. However, bigger is not always better. I've noticed multiple concerning things on the water out of younger anglers just in the last few month. Whether it's someone blasting through a no wake zone or jumping next to you on a spot. And, I'm sure most of them have a gopro strapped to them or their boat waiting for an altercation to post on youtube.
Obviously, I have no idea if the young anglers I saw even know whoo the bro squad is. But, there sure are a lot of days that it seems like respect and common sense seems to be left at the ramp. And, it makes you wonder what impact things like youtube might have on people.
And they are success again to have all of you talking about them. MORE POWER TO THEM WEATHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT. And no I’m not tired of them since I don’t watch them that much.
On 7/7/2019 at 7:08 PM, JustJames said:And they are success again to have all of you talking about them. MORE POWER TO THEM WEATHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT. And no I’m not tired of them since I don’t watch them that much.
Flawed logic because I think people who would be on the fence about their products, either members or lurkers, would avoid them now with such a strong consensus.
Have never watched it.
Here's another vote for Fish The Moment, that young man does an amazing job. I have learned an incredible amount about offshore bass fishing from his channel. I'm not a fan at all of the Googan group.
Tactical Bassin
Fish the moment
Bass Resource
***
My absolute favorite channels
I have a now 9 year old son who’s really getting into fishing now that we’ve moved on a lake. I’ve tried giving him helpful tips here and there but I’m dad I’m sure most of you know how that goes. One day I come home from work and he was geeked because he had caught 6 bass all on a Wacky rig. I hadn’t taught him the wacky rig so I asked where he heard about that. He said Andrew Flair videos. I had no clue who he was, and sure didn’t know he was apart of the Googan Squad. Naturally I watch a couple videos to make sure they’re ok for him to watch. He talks fast and is all over the place with the direction of his videos and tries to be a little too funny but oh well. My son has learned about the wacky rig, when tried to teach him to slow down and watch his line it kind of fell on deaf ears until he saw Flair doing these things. He’s learned about baits to use in spring and summer.
While the Googans may not sit well with most they do with kids and kids can actually learn from them. I’ve never watched the others and won’t unless my son does and only will to make sure the content is ok. I have put my son onto Fish the Moment. That kid has very very informative videos and has a very good way of explaining things and stays on topic.
On 7/6/2019 at 9:26 PM, BadContrakt said:Fish the Moment is one of my new favorites. What a guy.
Yes I watch this guy a lot. Has a lot of knowledge about bass fishing!!!!!
The last two years seem to be them flaunting their bank accounts. They dont have anything else to teach and are more about being youtube personalities. I turn to youtube university to learn new things.
This year I've seen them break more Favorite rods and reels than any other product in the past. Watching Scott Martin fish a tournament without a reel knob or breaking a pole, Dustin Connell breaking a rod while fishing peacock bass, and the countless rods broke from the Googan Squad mid cast. All while 1rod is fishing a dobyns and saying its the best rod hes ever used.
The videos do sell. I've switched from wacky rigged senkos to z-man trd's after watching Brian Latimer. Picked up a pair of Costa sunglasses because of Scott Martin.
On 7/6/2019 at 10:19 AM, slonezp said:My Lund is featured twice in one of their videos for a split second. At the 7:12 and 7:22 marks . Coincidentally, this is the same kid in @Harold Scoggins first 2 pictures. From an outdoors standpoint, I don't care for them or their antics. From a capitalist standpoint, more power to them. At 20 years old I was washing cars at a dealership trying to support my newborn son and wife. These kids are making bank.
While I wasn't in the money at this tournament, I did get a couple nice ones.
This is an excellent attitude to subscribe to. I agree with you 100%.
Yep... They turned from a bunch of rather educational dudes who just loved bass fishing into a group of "businessmen" overnight. The one that really disappoints me is Scott Martin. His videos use to be a blast to watch, but that's before his videos became straight up shilling for whatever new product he had a stake in. Like Googan baits.
Now days most of these guy's videos are just over the 10 minute monetization mark, but there's maybe 2-5 minutes of actually fishing footage, followed by 3-5 minutes of product shilling and showing off whatever new $1,000 JDM reel or $500 swimbait they bought. It's literally like watching Instagram "influencers" but on Youtube fishing channels.
I still like most of the guys, just can't stand their videos anymore. It's nothing but shilling, dramatic reactions to 1lb bass and anything minor that happens, and basically no fishing content compared to what they use to produce.
With that being said... Am I mad? Hell no. I'm actually happy that those guys are making a career out of it, even if it's not the content I like. Some of them have grown a rather large ego like Jon B, but whatever. I miss the old content they produced, but if they gotta make money off it they gotta do what they gotta do.
On 7/8/2019 at 7:49 AM, Brew City Bass said:The one that really disappoints me is Scott Martin. His videos use to be a blast to watch, but that's before his videos became straight up shilling for whatever new product he had a stake in.
You know he is Roland's kid right?....
I have a NOS C-Lector I can let you have for a good price...
On 7/8/2019 at 7:55 AM, BassWhole! said:You know he is Roland's kid right?....
I have a NOS C-Lector I can let you have for a good price...
Yeah haha. I understand..
I wish they would have separate channels for shilling their garbage though. But that'd never get them the clicks they need.
On 7/6/2019 at 9:26 PM, BadContrakt said:Fish the Moment is one of my new favorites. What a guy.
I agree 100%. He seems very down to earth, one of my favorites to watch as well. I used to watch Flukemaster more, but lately he's gotten more into Kayak fishing so I've kinda lost interest. Nothing wrong with Kayak fishing, its just not my preference.
As far as the googan squad, I never watched them. I tried to watch a couple videos, but it just wasn't my style.
You have to admit the production quality of their vids has gotten better over the years. They are annoying, but that's what is demanded from them these days. I've lost interest, as many others have stated, due to the capitalist direction they've taken. But if not them, then some other select group of bro-dudes would be doing it. Even their name is annoying as f***. I will say the hunting trip that LFG made to New Zealand was of great quality.
On 7/7/2019 at 10:20 PM, 12poundbass said:I’ve tried giving him helpful tips here and there but I’m dad
Don't worry, they do come back. My son is always coming over to borrow rods and lures. If I'm really lucky, he'll even ask me how to use a particular bait now and then.
My son, a 12 year old avid angler, told me about Jon B and the Googan Squad. I watched a video with him and laughed. He asked what was funny, so I told him. I told him my opinion. They're seemingly a bunch of punks who are shilling overpriced rods and baits. I turned him onto Drew Gregory (yak angler here), Chad Hoover (his shilling has gotten almost intolerable), Tactical Bassin, Bass Resource, Keepin It Real and a few others. The kid loves fishing, has read Murphy and Sowbelly. He reads the magazines, anything he can get his hands on.
Ehh, the videos are whatever. I respect the fact they found a way to monetize what they enjoy. Sellouts? Nah, the dude going to a job he hates with people he can’t stand for far less coin for 30 years is a sell out. At least they’re chasing it.
Privileged? Probably.
Don’t really ‘get it’? Assuredly.
But life is filled with folks who don’t and come out winning.
and they’re winning. No question about it.
We all have dice to roll. Theirs came up snake eyes..
Still won’t buy their baits tho..
On 7/8/2019 at 10:23 PM, 813basstard said:We all have dice to roll. Theirs came up snake eyes..
Hey, Nathan Detroit, you might want to stick to bass fishing and stay away from casinos and clandestine games. "I got the horse right here, his name is Paul Revere"..
On 7/6/2019 at 9:03 AM, Pickle_Power said:I hadn't heard of this crew until people on this forum expressed their disapproval. You guys are giving them a ton of publicity! ????
+1
Saw all the chatter here about them a few months ago. I watched no more than 3 minutes of two different videos. Never saw a reason to watch any more. Never saw a reason to get upset about them, either. They may as well be making videos about basket making or something else I have no interest in watching. Unless someone here is talking about them, I'd not remember they exist.
On 7/6/2019 at 7:26 PM, Harold Scoggins said:Speaking of "old," I use to watch Gene Jensen until a few years ago, he mentioned to a group that "forums were for old people" and that he didn't want to hang out on them because YT was what the younger folks wanted. I considered that a slap in the face directed towards people who still know how and enjoy reading. Don't take me wrong, I enjoy watching YT, but I dread the day when our youth beats feet across the lake to the likes of the Googans because they are "dope" and they leave the old man in the straw hat sitting alone in his john boat - thinking he has nothing to contribute. Even as a younger man in my twenties, I always made time for the "old salts" who first taught me how to fish.
I don't begrudge Gene trying to forge his way into making a living at it...and if that meant he had to leave BR to do it, so be it. But, I agree...while I used to read most everything he posted and watched all his videos, I haven't seen but probably two or three since he left here.
On 7/6/2019 at 9:26 PM, BadContrakt said:Fish the Moment is one of my new favorites. What a guy.
Saw him mentioned here on BR a couple times, so I watched a video of his. Have to admit that this FOG almost bailed in first minutes after seeing how young he looked...lol. But, I stuck it out and was hugely impressed. I have only watched a couple of his videos, but I have a good deal of respect so far.
I went and viewed the Googan ICast video and it was interesting.
What I am wondering is where they got the capital to start the company or did they go bare bones and contract all of the production to another entity in the USA?
Baits seem to be along the lines of the Brush Hog and Rage Tail craws plus some Zoom baits.
They also mentioned that their baits have scent in them. Not sure if I like that although I must admit I like the General by Berkley and its scent. I put MegaStrike on my baits so this may not be a negative for me.
Will I try the new Googan baits? No, not this soon. I will let you guys fish them and then report back.
On 7/9/2019 at 1:42 AM, Sam said:I went and viewed the Googan ICast video and it was interesting.
What I am wondering is where they got the capital to start the company or did they go bare bones and contract all of the production to another entity in the USA?
Baits seem to be along the lines of the Brush Hog and Rage Tail craws plus some Zoom baits.
They also mentioned that their baits have scent in them. Not sure if I like that although I must admit I like the General by Berkley and its scent. I put MegaStrike on my baits so this may not be a negative for me.
Will I try the new Googan baits? No, not this soon. I will let you guys fish them and then report back.
People become millionaires from their YouTube content. Views, likes, comments and subs adds up to big bucks. Eventually you throw in sponsors and people giving famous people business opportunities and you end up with things like Googan.
Googan squad sucks. And this is coming from a young gun (22) Googan Baits are overpriced and have way too much oil, I'll stick with my rage craws and pit boss. Also heard they're making hard baits now, probably gonna be like 15 dollars for one little squarebill, screw that!
On 7/9/2019 at 4:05 AM, pondhopperNJ said:Googan squad sucks. And this is coming from a young gun (22) Googan Baits are overpriced and have way too much oil, I'll stick with my rage craws and pit boss.
Not trying to argue, but the Googan Baits are only 50 cents more expensive than your Rage baits...I'm not a supporter of the squad either just saying that they are basically priced the same as the Rage Series.
On 7/7/2019 at 11:19 AM, Glaucus said:Because Senkos are proven to be one of the best bass baits of all time and none of the knock offs perform on the same level as a Senko.
I like Googan plastics but nothing they did is ground breaking and they're easily replaceable by better.
They're not 9 dollars better. You can catch fish on any plastic if you know how to fish it.
Yamamoto is selling the bass fishing world a bill of goods.
On 7/6/2019 at 8:13 AM, Russ E said:I never understood the obsession people have with them.
I think their followers are usually kids.
Whatever floats your boat.
I have noticed others on this site have been ripping on them lately.
I don't follow them but I don't understand the obsession with ripping on them.........lol
On 7/9/2019 at 4:45 AM, Wacky Zac said:Yamamoto is selling the bass fishing world a bill of goods.
Blasphemy! @Wacky Zac has done Blasphemy!
On 7/9/2019 at 4:05 AM, pondhopperNJ said:Googan squad sucks. And this is coming from a young gun (22) Googan Baits are overpriced and have way too much oil, I'll stick with my rage craws and pit boss. Also heard they're making hard baits now, probably gonna be like 15 dollars for one little squarebill, screw that!
$15 for a squarebill isn't bad. Look at Megabass, Evergreen, etc. If the baits are quality, it's no big deal. I don't throw much in the way of crank baits anyway.
On 7/9/2019 at 7:50 AM, Drew03cmc said:$15 for a squarebill isn't bad. Look at Megabass, Evergreen, etc. If the baits are quality, it's no big deal. I don't throw much in the way of crank baits anyway.
All I throw is KVDs 1.5 and 2.5s and maybe a deep diver if I'm fishing a bigger lake. Only around 6 bucks at my local stores
On 7/9/2019 at 4:12 AM, Largies4Life said:Not trying to argue, but the Googan Baits are only 50 cents more expensive than your Rage baits...I'm not a supporter of the squad either just saying that they are basically priced the same as the Rage Series.
Rage series always preformed better, bought a pack of the Krackin craw from googan baits they were selling them at Dicks sporting goods and After catching one dink the craw was basically destroyed worst than a senko after 1 fish.
On 7/9/2019 at 7:50 AM, Drew03cmc said:$15 for a squarebill isn't bad. Look at Megabass, Evergreen, etc. If the baits are quality, it's no big deal. I don't throw much in the way of crank baits anyway.
Not worth getting it snagged. But I'm still farely new to all around bass fishing so I can't really talk about snagging and losing lures.
On 7/8/2019 at 9:11 PM, Justin Roberts said:I will say the hunting trip that LFG made to New Zealand was of great quality.
I really enjoyed that as well. The video quality and scenery was spectacular. As I said earlier LFG is the most down to Earth guy in the squad and his own channel's content is still good. He also has a channel with his wife, OSG, that's entertaining as well. Just a good ol' American family channel.
On 7/9/2019 at 1:42 AM, Sam said:What I am wondering is where they got the capital to start the company or did they go bare bones and contract all of the production to another entity in the USA?
I can not say for sure, but their individual subscriber bases would suggest they each make well into six digits annually including LunkersTV who probably has some of his videos demonetized. They likely had the capitol to start a company.
On 7/8/2019 at 9:11 PM, Justin Roberts said:I will say the hunting trip that LFG made to New Zealand was of great quality.
I am not much of a hunter, but I might have to check that out. Although I can’t claim to have seen many of their videos, I did get caught up in a series of videos by Jon B. where he hosted two anglers from England for two weeks. Listening to them compare the experiences of fishing between here and their home increased my appreciation for what I have and where I live.
I have little tolerance for stupidity and that is what the Googans seem to thrive on. But hey, if that is what gets them more views, then good for them.
Personally, I only watch TRF and Scott Martin. Mainly because they are tournament anglers and Scott's day in the life videos of a touring pro are right up my alley.
On 7/9/2019 at 4:45 AM, Wacky Zac said:
They're not 9 dollars better. You can catch fish on any plastic if you know how to fish it.
Yamamoto is selling the bass fishing world a bill of goods.
Around here Dingers are $3 and Senkos are $8. Dingers have rarely caught me a fish, but I can burn through a bag or three of Senkos in one day catching fish, and one of my top two LMB ever was caught on one. Nothing compares to a Senko regardless of what people try to tell themselves because of the price. And believe me, I believe in frugality or a variant thereof. Senkos are one of the baits that are worth the price tag.
On 7/9/2019 at 8:42 AM, Mike Bruns said:I really enjoyed that as well. The video quality and scenery was spectacular. As I said earlier LFG is the most down to Earth guy in the squad and his own channel's content is still good. He also has a channel with his wife, OSG, that's entertaining as well. Just a good ol' American family channel.
OSGILF
On 7/9/2019 at 7:25 PM, BassWhole! said:OSGILF
Every video is click bait, their Videos no longer have an value. If your going to watch fishing vids, tactical basin and fish the moment are beyond educational.
On 7/9/2019 at 7:38 PM, Rip_lipz said:Every video is click bait, their Videos no longer have an value. If your going to watch fishing vids, tactical basin and fish the moment are beyond educational.
And yet here we are, on the most popular thread on this site talking about them. Like they say "any publicity is good publicity"...
I like their videos, especially LFG. I guess I'm in the minority! Haha. If I knew how to operate a computer I could provide strictly fishing content several times a week without all the silliness. Wanted: person to follow me around with camera, edit all the fish footage, then hand me all the cash......... Nah I couldn't do that! Haha
Edit: ok maybe I would take half that cash........ I need brakes and rotors......
Who are these people with TLAs for names?
On 7/10/2019 at 1:17 AM, TnRiver46 said:I like their videos, especially LFG. I guess I'm in the minority! Haha. If I knew how to operate a computer I could provide strictly fishing content several times a week without all the silliness. Wanted: person to follow me around with camera, edit all the fish footage, then hand me all the cash......... Nah I couldn't do that! Haha
Edit: ok maybe I would take half that cash........ I need brakes and rotors......
Google pays YouTubers. Once they get as big as some of these popular YouTubers as far as likes, comments, subs, and views, you're talking hundreds of thousands and millions.
On 7/10/2019 at 1:17 AM, TnRiver46 said:I like their videos, especially LFG. I guess I'm in the minority! Haha. If I knew how to operate a computer I could provide strictly fishing content several times a week without all the silliness. Wanted: person to follow me around with camera, edit all the fish footage, then hand me all the cash......... Nah I couldn't do that! Haha
Edit: ok maybe I would take half that cash........ I need brakes and rotors......
https://www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/entertainment/g25389858/highest-paid-youtubers-net-worth/
On 7/10/2019 at 1:44 AM, Glaucus said:Google pays YouTubers. Once they get as big as some of these popular YouTubers as far as likes, comments, subs, and views, you're talking hundreds of thousands and millions.
Plenty enough for brakes and rotors!!!
On 7/10/2019 at 1:46 AM, TnRiver46 said:Plenty enough for brakes and rotors!!!
1Rod1Reel talked about the "easy life" in a relatively recent video after his hiatus. He talked about how he doesn't have to work a job, all he does is fishes and uploads the videos. He wouldn't have to upload anything else ever and he would still rake in thousands every month. He said he feels bad because his wife is some sort of pediatric emergency nurse. It's her passion but she works hard and makes nowhere near what he does just fishing and uploading to YouTube. It's pretty crazy.
On 7/10/2019 at 1:51 AM, Glaucus said:1Rod1Reel talked about the "easy life" in a relatively recent video after his hiatus. He talked about how he doesn't have to work a job, all he does is fishes and uploads the videos. He wouldn't have to upload anything else ever and he would still rake in thousands every month. He said he feels bad because his fiance wife is some sort of pediatric emergency nurse. It's her passion but she works hard and makes nowhere near what he does just fishing and uploading to YouTube. It's pretty crazy.
Well are you interested in my wanted ad for a cameraman?? Haha
On 7/10/2019 at 2:04 AM, TnRiver46 said:Well are you interested in my wanted ad for a cameraman?? Haha
That you think I'd film instead of fish is insulting.
All this hate for the googan squad is great for them. I bet if you did a google search it would link at least a dozen results for bass resources forum threads. Honestly what they are doing for the fishing community is good cause it is getting kids involved in something they never would have.
Even though this channel is a bit smaller I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Kyle Welcher's youtube yet. The man is quite talented at fishing and almost all his content is centered around tournament fishing with some fun fishing tossed in.
On 7/10/2019 at 1:30 AM, J Francho said:Who are these people with TLAs for names?
I don't know, I'm still trying to figure it out.
On 7/10/2019 at 3:10 AM, boostr said:I don't know, I'm still trying to figure it out.
Russian hacker bots????
This thread cracks me up, we are a bunch of old farts looking at the "kids these days" and shaking our heads. Just like our dads did with us........
I can't stand to watch them either by the way. LFG is good if it's one of his, but if he is with them I wont click on it.
Plus one for Fishing the Moment.
On 7/10/2019 at 2:53 AM, Arobb2012 said:All this hate for the googan squad is great for them. I bet if you did a google search it would link at least a dozen results for bass resources forum threads. Honestly what they are doing for the fishing community is good cause it is getting kids involved in something they never would have.
I agree - I remember when guys my age were hating "Ike" - I didn't act like him but I thought then and now that he was good for the sport because he appealed to younger anglers. When I go to the lake on the weekend and watch the guys fishing our local tournaments I see mostly middle aged (or older) guys in expensive boats with partners their own age. This may be fun but without participation of younger people there is trouble on the horizon for bass fishing.
I watched Jon B when he was first starting out and found his channel when I had one of the monthly boxes and saw his unboxing videos. His fishing videos were decent back then even though he really made more out of every small fish than he needed to. Most of the time he was trespassing on water he wasn't supposed to be on and I'm not a fan of that. Now the group of them are rather annoying and I haven't watched since they formed their group. I'm kind of sad that Academy started carrying their overpriced baits, taking up a section of their racks that used to have baits I used to buy that they discontinued having.
Looks like TW is going to be carrying their fishing line...
At ICAST they are debuting and will be coming out with spinnerbaits, buzz baits, jigs, crankbaits, sunglasses, pliers, walking baits, and I think that may be it. They're taking it a bit far in my opinion. I think they should've just stick with soft plastics due to them trying to enter such a concentrated market already.
sounds like im in the minority but i dont mind them. entertaining for what they are. their video editing is amazing and its fun to see the different places they go. as with the products they push... i dont personally have any of their things since i don't believe they are to the quality of the other brands. time will tell
On 7/11/2019 at 9:20 PM, Largies4Life said:At ICAST they are debuting and will be coming out with spinnerbaits, buzz baits, jigs, crankbaits, sunglasses, pliers, walking baits, and I think that may be it. They're taking it a bit far in my opinion. I think they should've just stick with soft plastics due to them trying to enter such a concentrated market already.
I mean they are selling a ton of their soft plastic baits, so I guess they decided to expand their products. I do think that sunglasses and pliers are a little far. I'd still bet that kids will buy all of these products though.
On 7/12/2019 at 2:15 AM, Alec McMillan said:I mean they are selling a ton of their soft plastic baits, so I guess they decided to expand their products. I do think that sunglasses and pliers are a little far. I'd still bet that kids will buy all of these products though.
No doubt kids will buy all of these lures still. It's just that I don't see them being able to compete with other reputable brands who have had jigs/spinnerbaits/buzz baits etc. out for years, but I guess the same can be said about their soft plastics and those are doing just fine.
Jon B's most recent video is about strapping a dog shock collar to his neck...or his friends neck. Im not real sure.
It is click bait and mindless entertainment for a young market.
I will say that the demand of producing multiple videos a week would be very anxiety inducing.
The Googans are starting to do to fishing what Nike and other major shoe brands have done to basketball...
You go to play a pickup game of basketball and you got these little kids wearing these fancy overpriced shoes. Then they judge you because your shoe game isn't as good theirs, even though your skills when it comes to actually playing the game are just as good.
Its all about the swag and repping the name brand stuff. It's all about the looks and having the logo or the name. Yes, this has been going on in the fishing industry already. Ex- Daiwa/Shimano, Chevy/Ford and super proud Ranger owners to name a few. But with the youngsters, it is being taken to a whole nother level with this Googan stuff.
At one of my last ever high school tournaments, despite only been fishing for about a year, hadn't made any top finishes, or won anything meaningful, this young teenage kid was trying to talk trash to me because he apparently owns every single Googan bait on the market. And in his mind, that makes him a superior angler to everyone else because he has paid for all these baits and is a major Googan fan boy.
There are a lot more kids just like this on Insta and Snapchat that think they are the hot stuff because they caught a 4 lber at a farm pond on a Googan bait. It is really getting out of hand. And it is kind of unfortunate because the lures themselves don't look bad, but the name is making people go crazy.
Oh yeah, when I got the point where I just couldn't ignore the kid anymore, to shut him up I just showed him the picture of me holding up the AOY trophy that I won from the year prior and walked off.
I don't care for them personally but you can't deny they have gotten thousands and thousand of kids into fishing. Which is a good thing. Personally I don't watch them because they're videos don't have fishing in them most of the time and some of the dumb crap they do just annoys me. I like LFG a lot but he has turned into the Googan type after he joined them. A lot of it has to do with generating views and people love to watch other people doing stupid things. I have a very small channel and try not to be click bait-ey and I believe it is one of the reasons I only have 1k subs....
Oh yeah, and the fact that I'm not that great of a fisherman!
On 7/12/2019 at 4:56 AM, Jd_Phillips_Fishin said:The Googans are starting to do to fishing what Nike and other major shoe brands have done to basketball...
You go to play a pickup game of basketball and you got these little kids wearing these fancy overpriced shoes. Then they judge you because your shoe game isn't as good theirs, even though your skills when it comes to actually playing the game are just as good.
Its all about the swag and repping the name brand stuff. It's all about the looks and having the logo or the name. Yes, this has been going on in the fishing industry already. Ex- Daiwa/Shimano, Chevy/Ford and super proud Ranger owners to name a few. But with the youngsters, it is being taken to a whole nother level with this Googan stuff.
At one of my last ever high school tournaments, despite only been fishing for about a year, hadn't made any top finishes, or won anything meaningful, this young teenage kid was trying to talk trash to me because he apparently owns every single Googan bait on the market. And in his mind, that makes him a superior angler to everyone else because he has paid for all these baits and is a major Googan fan boy.
There are a lot more kids just like this on Insta and Snapchat that think they are the hot stuff because they caught a 4 lber at a farm pond on a Googan bait. It is really getting out of hand. And it is kind of unfortunate because the lures themselves don't look bad, but the name is making people go crazy.
Oh yeah, when I got the point where I just couldn't ignore the kid anymore, to shut him up I just showed him the picture of me holding up the AOY trophy that I won from the year prior and walked off.
Honestly, I'm surprised that it's taken as long as it has to market to teens and younger audiences in the fishing world. The googans saw an opportunity and went with it. You made a great point about having the latest swag, but this has been going on for years with every pro angler wearing endless amounts of brands on every inch of their body, boat, tackle, truck, etc.
I never heard of them untill my grandson told me about them. I think he's watched a few of their videos. It's all for young people, and not my thing.
On 7/12/2019 at 5:47 AM, Justin Roberts said:You made a great point about having the latest swag, but this has been going on for years with every pro angler wearing endless amounts of brands on every inch of their body, boat, tackle, truck, etc.
While I don't disagree, there is a big distinction between the pros who are promoting their sponsors in order to make a living and kids who fish stock ponds posting pictures with a fish in one hand and a package of Googan baits in the other as if it gives them some sort of cred
Everyone has to eat. Is it any different than a Cialis commercial with a leacherous gray hair guy leering at his mistress old enough to be his daughter? The rampant douchebaggery of those ass clowns is laughable at best and at worse embarrassingly awful. It's like a collab of Vanilla Ice and Guy Fieri headed to a Creed concert but instead pushing schlocky cheap junk while fishing a stocked lake.
Bruh totally lit.....like your dad's visa statement after the Googan splurge.
Oh look, one of them has a new video where they get the threatened to have the cops called on them yet again for fishing private property. I've been fishing for over 30 years and not once have I ever been in a situation where the cops have been called, but these little punks manage to do it almost on a daily basis.
How many millions of acres of water are there in Canada, but these punks manage to find the ones where they know people are going to get upset and cause drama. Great example they are setting for younger fisherman! Whatever drives your Youtube channel and gets you clicks I guess.
Instead of complaining about them, just stopping watching their videos.
I am going to coin a term.
GDS - Googan Derangement Syndrome
On 7/14/2019 at 12:02 AM, ike8120 said:Instead of complaining about them, just stopping watching their videos.
The problem is that little kids watch there videos, and that will give them the impression that’s it’s okay to get in trouble.
On 7/14/2019 at 1:43 AM, Mminin33 said:The problem is that little kids watch there videos, and that will give them the impression that’s it’s okay to get in trouble.
Maybe parents need to start policing what kids watch, Hopefully kids should know right from wrong. If kids think getting in trouble is cool , then they have a real issue. Kids need to go fishing and stop watching stupid you videos.
It appears the two most hated things on this website are coming together. Googan is coming out with a NED BAIT! And it comes with a rattle!
On 7/15/2019 at 9:29 AM, Mike Bruns said:It appears the two most hated things on this website are coming together. Googan is coming out with a NED BAIT! And it comes with a rattle!
People here hate the Ned Rig?
The amount of money being made on YouTube is just stupid. But we are the real idiots for sitting here complaining and being jealous instead of joining in on the cash grab.
i watched one of their clips ... openly disregarded no fishing signs ... laughed about it ... as though it was their right to do so ... private property be damned ... bad thing for youngsters to see ... bad role models ...
sign of the times ...
This is the first time I’ve heard of them.
On 7/15/2019 at 10:23 AM, GReb said:The amount of money being made on YouTube is just stupid. But we are the real idiots for sitting here complaining and being jealous instead of joining in on the cash grab.
Well, it's far from a "cash grab". The nature of the beast requires nearly constant uploading of "content". That is a time investment few people have, or can keep up. Considering how many fishing channels are out there now, one would need special content, a special personality (w/good content), stunts or other hooks, and keep it up, to build such an audience. Once/if you are able to build a large audience (doesn't happen overnight), then you may attract sponsors. Then your time must compete with added "unboxings" and advertisements shoe-horned into your "content". If you hang in there, and continue to build an audience, you may be able to create a wider business -maybe creating your own bait company? It's a "be careful what you wish for" scenario.
On 7/16/2019 at 5:34 AM, Paul Roberts said:Well, it's far from a "cash grab". The nature of the beast requires nearly constant uploading of "content". That is a time investment few people have, or can keep up. Considering how many fishing channels are out there now, one would need special content, a special personality (w/good content), stunts or other hooks, and keep it up, to build such an audience. Once/if you are able to build a large audience (doesn't happen overnight), then you may attract sponsors.
^^ This ^^ I've had my channel for 10 years now. I have made over 600 videos (average of 1 video per week for 10 years). I don't know about anyone else, but hours and hours of work go into nearly every video I make. What do I have to show for it?
A few hundred dollars per month from YouTube.
Better than a sharp stick in the eye, but hardly a "cash grab".
The really $$ is in sponsorship, which is not stable income. It's not something you can rely on, because it's a here today, gone tomorrow kind of thing. It takes hard work to maintain partnerships, and even more hard work to obtain new ones.
I could cite more examples, but the bottom line is this: it's not easy money.
While I personally do not like the Googans, I have to commend them for being able to make a living off of what they do. If it were easy, there'd be a whole lot more of them around.
Excellent post, Glenn. Wow, 600 videos! That's a lot of work. Hats off to you.
On 7/16/2019 at 5:50 AM, Glenn said:I have made over 600 videos (average of 1 video per week for 10 years).
It shows. The past year and a half, I've seen both a personality and editing style emerge. Mixing dramatic, joyful catches with informational, didactic content. Hats off indeed.
Never watched their videos but may have to give it a shot. I'm not really into a lot of these kids with youtube channels (I'll say kids lightly because I am still a millennial) because a lot of them are just flat out annoying big shots. The only channel I was hooked on for a while was the Linder's channel because I just like their style of multi species fishing, non annoying presentation and their educational nature.
As for any of these guys making a decent buck off youtube, more power to them.
What I don't get is why things like this bother people. I think it's more of a you problem than it is a problem with the people you don't like. Let them do their thing and you do your thing. No reason to let silly things like successful YouTubers bother you.
Imho the "bother" is a now generation social media thing where everyone feels required to share their feelings on the internet.
Yep, just like I just did lol.
On 7/14/2019 at 1:43 AM, Mminin33 said:The problem is that little kids watch there videos, and that will give them the impression that’s it’s okay to get in trouble.
My parenting > youtube video
It's amazing what having conversations with your child can do
When I got into fishing I watched some of their videos before they became the Googan squad or whatever they call themselves. Then I saw one of them do a video about being a military Vet in the Iraqi/Afghanistan occupation, then shooting guns and calling their video Hillary Clinton's Worst Nightmare or something like that. Sorry, I don't want to see stupid videos like that when I want to watch fishing videos. Guns are OK and I respect military veterans, but keep the immature titles away from me.
Still, the fishing industry is pretty low key with little energy. It would probably be smart for the fishing industry to tap into the Googan squad. We have to remember, video gaming is very addicting and keeps kids and adults from going outside and exercising. If the Googan squad can encourage younger people to go outside and do things, in the end that's a positive.
On 7/17/2019 at 12:45 AM, hoosierbass07 said:When I got into fishing I watched some of their videos before they became the Googan squad or whatever they call themselves. Then I saw one of them do a video about being a military Vet in the Iraqi/Afghanistan occupation, then shooting guns and calling their video Hillary Clinton's Worst Nightmare or something like that. Sorry, I don't want to see stupid videos like that when I want to watch fishing videos. Guns are OK and I respect military veterans, but keep the immature titles away from me.
Still, the fishing industry is pretty low key with little energy. It would probably be smart for the fishing industry to tap into the Googan squad. We have to remember, video gaming is very addicting and keeps kids and adults from going outside and exercising. If the Googan squad can encourage younger people to go outside and do things, in the end that's a positive.
I'm all for promoting kids and fishing, but these idiots are promoting fishing in places where they shouldn't and constant confrontation with property owners and law enforcement.. Thats not the kind of example they should setting for kids.
On 7/14/2019 at 1:43 AM, Mminin33 said:The problem is that little kids watch there videos, and that will give them the impression that’s it’s okay to get in trouble.
So what? I remove swearing and try and set good examples in my little videos. That's all I need to concern myself with. If some do not - pffft I couldn't care less.
People are too worried about what everyone else is doing these days.
On 7/15/2019 at 11:24 AM, greentrout said:i watched one of their clips ... openly disregarded no fishing signs ... laughed about it ... as though it was their right to do so ... private property be damned ... bad thing for youngsters to see ... bad role models ...
sign of the times ...
They only care about making lots of Youtube money and do not care if they are giving a negative influence to children. They have potential to be positive role models for the fishing community but instead choose to stay true to the name they gave themselves. Googans will be googans and not much you can do to change that.
These type of threads do them more favours. You're giving them free advertising.
If you don't like it just move along, and ignore it. At the end of the day to each his/her own.
It's time to move on. And scene....