What Technique To Learn Next? 2024
bholtzinger14 reply :
I have a 6'10" ML spinning *** rod I am using for dropshotting/ned rigs.
I have a 7'1" M spinning *** rod I am using for weightless wacky rigged senkos.
i have a 7' MH casting St Croix I am using for texas rigged soft plastics (mostly Baby brush hogs)
I am loving being out on the water and learning these techniques. What should I throw in my arsenal next? Its not that these are not working. I just want to be prepared and feel confident with other techniques and give me something else to throw.
The keitech swing impact fat just caught my attention. Maybe some soft swimbaits?
Scarborough817 reply :
i would look into bladed jigs. They are definitely one of my favourite techniques
bholtzinger14 reply :
Like chatterbaits?
Shane J reply :
All jigs!! Flipping jigs, swim jigs, shakey head jigs, football jigs, brush jigs, Everywhere a jig jig!! I'd grab yourself a 7'6" MH or Heavy Fast rod, some 17lb flouro, and get to work. You should never, EVER, go fishing without a jig rod coming out at some point. Ever. Never. All year, all places.
PourMyOwn reply :
On 11/4/2015 at 5:20 AM, Shane J said:All jigs!! Flipping jigs, swim jigs, shakey head jigs, football jigs, brush jigs, Everywhere a jig jig!! I'd grab yourself a 7'6" MH or Heavy Fast rod, some 17lb flouro, and get to work. You should never, EVER, go fishing without a jig rod coming out at some point. Ever. Never. All year, all places.
Shane I like your thought process.
bholtzinger14 reply :
I have been wanting to learn how to use jigs. I might have to.
I am liking my *** rods. Might pick up a *** *** Black 2 Cast Rod 7'6" Med Hvy
Sam reply :
You not only have to master jigs but the other assortment of baits for each section of the water column for each season of the year.
So if you have three water columns and four seasons that equals at least 12 types of baits for each technique you want to learn.
Add to the above water clarity, water oxygen levels, water temperatures and the weather conditions you can take the 12 types of baits and techniques and your options are limitless.
Hit the jigs first, remembering that jig fishing can be slow but your probabilities of catching a big lady are increased with a nice 1/2 ounce black and blue jig with a Rage Tail crawfish pig on the end. And jigs go with the bottom of the water column while swimming jigs can be used in the other two water column levels.
Have fun and let us know when you and the Bait Monkey hit the tackle shops.
gulfcaptain reply :
Why don't you learn to fish some reaction baits.....IE crankbaits, spinnerbaits, topwater, buzzbaits, chatterbaits. Jigs would be a good choice as well, but some moving baits to cover water may be a better way to go then jig fishing (not including a swim jig).
You can fish a lot of jigs on your 7'MH you're using to t-rig unless you're fishing something like a 3/4oz. Most 3/8 and 1/2oz you can cover with that 7'MH.
bholtzinger14 reply :
On 11/4/2015 at 6:00 AM, gulfcaptain said:You can fish a lot of jigs on your 7'MH you're using to t-rig unless you're fishing something like a 3/4oz. Most 3/8 and 1/2oz you can cover with that 7'MH.
I see what you are saying. just hate re-rigging while I am out. I'm trying to build my collection of rods/reels for each technique.
clh121787 reply :
I'd like to learn jerkbaits. And ned rigs. Nobody I know in Texas uses either of them. Maybe because the water isn't typically very clear? Idk
bholtzinger14 reply :
On 11/4/2015 at 6:00 AM, gulfcaptain said:Why don't you learn to fish some reaction baits.....IE crankbaits, spinnerbaits, topwater, buzzbaits, chatterbaits. Jigs would be a good choice as well, but some moving baits to cover water may be a better way to go then jig fishing (not including a swim jig).
Crankbaits are another one I have been wanting to learn. I just cant decide which technique to try next.
scaleface reply :
On 11/4/2015 at 6:12 AM, clh121787 said:I'd like to learn jerkbaits. And ned rigs. Nobody I know in Texas uses either of them. Maybe because the water isn't typically very clear? Idk
A good time and way to learn jerk baits is to try them when bass are just slapping at crankbaits .
bholtzinger14 reply :
On 11/4/2015 at 6:12 AM, clh121787 said:I'd like to learn jerkbaits. And ned rigs. Nobody I know in Texas uses either of them. Maybe because the water isn't typically very clear? Idk
i am in Texas. I had the ned rig on deck this weekend during my first tournament. I was throwing a wacky rigged senko all day. I felt like if I was not throwing the senko I was missing out on fish. I plan to get more time with the ned rig next time out.
gulfcaptain reply :
On 11/4/2015 at 6:12 AM, bholtzinger14 said:Crankbaits are another one I have been wanting to learn. I just cant decide which technique to try next.
I can understand not wanting to re-rig. But it's not that big a deal between a t-rig and a jig. I just suggested a crankbaits/reaction baits simply because it gives you a whole different approach. It compliments your other rigs. You miss a fish on a spinnerbait, you throw a wacky rigged Senko. All your techniques right now aren't made to cover lots of water. They are a slow presentation. Crankbaits/reation baits give you a one two approach. Just my way of thinking about it.
Senko lover reply :
Another vote for a jig! Best technique out there.
Jtrout reply :
Yeah i didnt see crankbaits in ur arsenal there pretty deadly get some lipless and square bills
DogBone_384 reply :
You have an instruction manual for jigs?On 11/4/2015 at 5:20 AM, Shane J said:All jigs!! Flipping jigs, swim jigs, shakey head jigs, football jigs, brush jigs, Everywhere a jig jig!! I'd grab yourself a 7'6" MH or Heavy Fast rod, some 17lb flouro, and get to work. You should never, EVER, go fishing without a jig rod coming out at some point. Ever. Never. All year, all places.
Many members rave about them and seem to catch big bass as a result. I started using them this fall and haven't gotten so much as a whiff.... I trust members' posts, so it's got to be something I'm doing wrong.
Since you're an hour North of me, I'm hoping you might have a bit of advice for Northern bass.
Felix77 reply :
On 11/4/2015 at 4:18 AM, bholtzinger14 said:I have a 6'10" ML spinning *** rod I am using for dropshotting/ned rigs.
I have a 7'1" M spinning *** rod I am using for weightless wacky rigged senkos.
i have a 7' MH casting St Croix I am using for texas rigged soft plastics (mostly Baby brush hogs)
I am loving being out on the water and learning these techniques. What should I throw in my arsenal next? Its not that these are not working. I just want to be prepared and feel confident with other techniques and give me something else to throw.
The keitech swing impact fat just caught my attention. Maybe some soft swimbaits?
I am a huge fan of the Keitech swimbaits ... I pair the swing impacts (regular) with the VMC Half Moon. I also texas rig them with a 1/8 or 3/16 bullet in grass. Go there ... you won't regret it. 
bholtzinger14 reply :
On 11/4/2015 at 6:24 AM, gulfcaptain said:I can understand not wanting to re-rig. But it's not that big a deal between a t-rig and a jig. I just suggested a crankbaits/reaction baits simply because it gives you a whole different approach. It compliments your other rigs. You miss a fish on a spinnerbait, you throw a wacky rigged Senko. All your techniques right now aren't made to cover lots of water. They are a slow presentation. Crankbaits/reation baits give you a one two approach. Just my way of thinking about it.
You are 100% right. I dont have anything set up to cover water. i use to fish spinnerbaits a lot as a kid, but I have not in years.
Starchalopakis reply :
Spinnerbaits have been a fun and rewarding technique that I have recently been using for the first time. The fish I have been catching on spinnerbaits really seem to hammer them hard , so it has been a lot of fun catching fish with them!
gulfcaptain reply :
On 11/4/2015 at 6:52 AM, bholtzinger14 said:You are 100% right. I dont have anything set up to cover water. i use to fish spinnerbaits a lot as a kid, but I have not in years.
Well sounds like you have answered your own question of what techique you need to learn next. If you're wondering, the 7'3"M *** (I have an older one) will work for spinnerbaits/chatterbaits up to 1/2oz, and most squarebill and rattle-trap style baits as well. The 2.5 size fishes a little big but can be done. The 1.0, 1.5's no problems. And all rattle traps up to 1/2oz. Lots of baits there to fish and cover water.
bholtzinger14 reply :
I know it's not the best rod but I have a 6'6" MH Berkley lightning rod. I could grab a curado and throw on it. What would that be good for?
If it's a reaction bait that should work, right? It does not need super sensitivity like finesse fishing, right?
gulfcaptain reply :
You could use that. And no it doesn't need to be super sensitive. You want a more forgiving rod with a softer action. But it beats not having any rod to throw a reaction bait on.
Rick Howard reply :
Compared to most serious anglers, I don't have much for tackle. I am not winning any money fishing either (and won't ever make a living fishing lol). However, I like to think that with a few types of lures some knowledge, and a little creativity you do not need a huge array of tackle. That probably puts me in the minority but I don't think it disqualifies my answer. A spinner bait is my go to bait for covering water and learning a little about the days fish.
A spinnerbaits is super versatile. It can be retrieved slow or quick. It can be fished shallow or deep. It also does not get hung up very easy.
Some techniques I use.
throw it past where I think the fish are and let it sink to below where I think the fish are suspended. Then retrieve at the rate I feel will put the bait in their face at the depth they are hanging.
I fish it shallow with a steady retrieve and the rod tip up a bit so help keep it from sinking.
I let it sink to the bottom and vary my retrieve to keep it bouncing off the bottom.
I fish it like a jerk bait. With a slow steady retrieve and then give it a quick tug and continue retrieving. I vary this technique in retrieve rates and severity/numer of the jerks. Sometimes I give it a brief pause after jerk too.
It fishes well in grass. Strikes often come after ripping it through some weeds. I flip it into lay downs and brush.
I fish it with and without trailers.
So my vote is for spinner baits.
My spinner rides on a Fenwick 6'6" medium-fast being tugged along with an Abu Garcia (I don't recall the model) 6:4:1
I'm only about a month into fishing with casting equipment but I love it. Wish I would have picked it up 20 years ago.
WRB reply :
2 of the 3 outfits are good for finesse fishing, don't limit you efforts to drop shot.
1/8 oz dart heads with 5" curl tail worm.
1/8 oz Mojo or split shot rigs.
Finesse slip shot / finesse C-rigs.
Nail weight worm rigs.
3/32 to 3/16 oz wacky worm jigs.
Your MH outfit can be used a wide variety of bass lures.
Tom
MIbassyaker reply :
Tom's list is great-- all easy and super-effective adaptations of your current gear.
I'm similar -- most of my fishing is strongly dominated by finesse presentation with plastics. I get a lot of mileage out of jigworm (any worm + jighead of some kind; shakeyhead is a version of this) and mojo/finesse c-rig (light cylindrical weight sliding freely above a bobber stopper, placed 12"-16" ahead of a t-rigged plastic).
But to me, the most obvious categories of things missing from your repertoire are
(1) Moving baits and other horizontal presentations (Crankbaits, spinnerbaits, swimbaits)
(2) Topwaters (Poppers, frogs, buzzbaits, walking baits)
(3) jigs
You should be able to get a start working on any of the three with your MH casting combo for heavier versions of these baits, and M spinning for lighter versions.
bholtzinger14 reply :
I think i will set it up to throw spinnerbaits. Then upgrade the rod at a later date.
monkeyman3dee reply :
On 11/4/2015 at 6:43 AM, DogBone_384 said:You have an instruction manual for jigs?
Many members rave about them and seem to catch big bass as a result. I started using them this fall and haven't gotten so much as a whiff.... I trust members' posts, so it's got to be something I'm doing wrong.
Since you're an hour North of me, I'm hoping you might have a bit of advice for Northern bass.
This site has helped me a lot:
sorry not allowed here apparently!! Google jig fishing and you will see plenty of sites to help out the mind set and what to look for in your jig fishing. BASS RESOURCE has some good articles too.
The key for me has been casting parallel to the bank, and searching for "jiggy" bottoms. As long as your jig bumps into something every now and then, you in a good spot. If all you feel is mush, not so good spot. I fish mainly football/brush/swim jigs. Not too much in the way of fishable cover around my lakes, so slow drags have always worked for me. Yum money craw as trailers. and stay positive! be the jig! as soon as you see/feel the bite reel down and set er good. Always a blast when you set the hook and see your rod south bend!!!!!
hatrix reply :
I am not sure a lot of things I would classify as "technique" unless it's a totally different way of rigging. I would more or less say what style of baits to learn. But whatever that don't matter. I would agree with a lot of people you need to start throwing moving baits or search baits of you will.
In all honesty I don't think there is much to it for someone to be half decent at using moving baits. The highest skill cap IMO is bottom contact stuff. Really you can apply all the same retrieves and little things to all moving baits. Swimbaits, traps, spinnerbaits, chatterbaits, swimjigs, even cranks to some degree.
You should be trying to do a lot of the same things will all of those. And with all of those it is possible to just chuk and wind and stil catch fish but it is rarely your best option. Find some type of cover of structure and bump into it. During your retrieves you just kinda mess around imparting different actions till you find out how they want it while making a mental note of what happened to make you get bit. Then try to keep dialing in more in more on what is working. You can speed up a bait a do a quick half turn of even a couple turns. Killing a bait for a split second works amazingly and I have tons of success with that. Also dragging a bait and using only your rod to really move it like a C-Rig. Ripping baits up out of grass to cause reaction strikes or throwing a coupe hops in here and there. That's basically about it unless there was something I missed.
DogBone_384 reply :
On 11/6/2015 at 1:54 AM, monkeyman3dee said:This site has helped me a lot:
sorry not allowed here apparently!! Google jig fishing and you will see plenty of sites to help out the mind set and what to look for in your jig fishing. BASS RESOURCE has some good articles too.
The key for me has been casting parallel to the bank, and searching for "jiggy" bottoms. As long as your jig bumps into something every now and then, you in a good spot. If all you feel is mush, not so good spot. I fish mainly football/brush/swim jigs. Not too much in the way of fishable cover around my lakes, so slow drags have always worked for me. Yum money craw as trailers. and stay positive! be the jig! as soon as you see/feel the bite reel down and set er good. Always a blast when you set the hook and see your rod south bend!!!!!
Thanks for the advice. I've watched all kinds of informational videos on the Interweb and read this forum a lot. I'm sure I'll get the idea once I catch a couple bass with one.
Fishes in trees reply :
More techniques = more gear, unless you want to spend time on the water tying knots. Me, I can buy more fishing gear, but I haven't found a way to buy more fishing time, therefore, I carry many rigs for different techniques and only retie when I need to/got to.
Under this system, if you need to learn more techniques, for action baits you will need a rig for deeper cranks, a rig for square bills, a rig for jerk baits, a rig for spinner baits, a rig for chatter baits. This year I started carrying a rig for Biffle Bugs - a jig /crank hybrid technique that has shown some promise for me.
Like previously mentioned, you might want to get some jig rods. I carry rigs for llghter jigs, in the quarter to 5/16 oz range and for quarter ounce jig worms. I don't tx rig very often, but I carry a couple of rigs for fishing my home made jika rigs. Do not ignore the bubba drop shot rig.
That will do for starters - after you've spend the few thousand dollars for gear up for these techniques, there will be more, believe me.
bholtzinger14 reply :
On 11/6/2015 at 10:48 PM, Fishes in trees said:More techniques = more gear, unless you want to spend time on the water tying knots. Me, I can buy more fishing gear, but I haven't found a way to buy more fishing time, therefore, I carry many rigs for different techniques and only retie when I need to/got to.
This is the way i feel. I know people say rods can multitask and feel like too many people put too much into technique specific rods, but I don't want to spend my time on the water tying on new leaders and tying knots. I want a rod already rigged up with what I need and since I want the rod rigged up with one technique why not get the best rod/reel combo for the set up and have it ready to go.
EvanT123 reply :
You have 3 setups that can cover a variety of techniques. Think lures for each rod that can cover the water colum and switch it up between the rods.
Catt reply :
1: what structure is, how to truly identify it, interpret it, and the fish it effectively.
2: what the predominate prey species in your lake and how that species relates to structure morning, noon, and night...with each passing season.
3: that next after location is timing; just because ya didn't get bit does not mean the bass aint there or ya tied on the wrong bait.
Until you totally and completely understand those 3 it doesn't matter what technique ya learn...ya just fishing!
Nick49 reply :
skipping jigs around docks
DTack reply :
On 11/4/2015 at 4:18 AM, bholtzinger14 said:I have a 6'10" ML spinning *** rod I am using for dropshotting/ned rigs.
I have a 7'1" M spinning *** rod I am using for weightless wacky rigged senkos.
i have a 7' MH casting St Croix I am using for texas rigged soft plastics (mostly Baby brush hogs)
I am loving being out on the water and learning these techniques. What should I throw in my arsenal next? Its not that these are not working. I just want to be prepared and feel confident with other techniques and give me something else to throw.
The keitech swing impact fat just caught my attention. Maybe some soft swimbaits?
Where do you live? What type of water do you fish? Are you in a boat/kayak/shore? Thanks in advance! I think it is cool you're wanting to learn new ways to catch them!
bholtzinger14 reply :
Live in North Texas. Most of my fishing will be bass fishing in Lake Granbury from a kayak. I will hit up some tanks too as my wife works at spa that has an 11 acre tank behind it.
MickD reply :
In this order, based somewhat on your location: Tubes, lipless cranks, and hard jerks. But have to ask, how can any bass fisherman not have spinnerbaits in their arsenal?
Don't worry about having a rod for every technique. Your rods will work for almost anything. As you gain experience with techniques, you will add to your rods with more technique specific rods, and you will soon be out there with 5 or 6 rods and will not be doing much rerigging.
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