I fish a lot of smaller lakes from 100 to 1000 acres. some of these lakes have some giant bass in them that are normally only caught on live bait. What swimbait would you recommend trying to try and catch some of these toads?
Normally only caught on livebait because that is the easiest way to catch them... The hardest part isnt catching them.. it's finding em !
Every recommendation you're about to receive is based off experience of another anglers success.
There is no secret swimbait or lure... Big fish can be had on anything from worms and jigs to spinnerbaits and topwaters... Finding the big one depends on your timing and location..
I can go throw a Roman made swimbait on a megabass combo and it doesn't mean I'm going to get a hog...
Matt's Hardgill 2, slow sink
Hudd 68 ROF 5 or 12
Spro rat 50
Tom
Finding the fish is the absolute most important thing. As far as baits go I would start with something like a savage gear 3d trout or a 68 or 8" hudd just slow roll them everywhere try to find the higher percentage areas and fish them
If I could only use one bait it would be a 40 or 50 rat.
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Match the forage closely, and don't overlook smaller to medium sized swimbaits.
On 5/15/2017 at 9:03 AM, NHBull said:If I could only use one bait it would be a 40 or 50 rat.
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what's your favorite color?
On 5/15/2017 at 9:16 AM, Buckjunkie said:what's your favorite color?
Morning dawn and gray
.....also, I don think color matters as much with the swimmers, my buddy has he black and we have similar luck
I would recommend a glide bait as well. They get bit a little more than the slow rolling swimbaits. They both have their place though.
On 5/15/2017 at 9:09 AM, iceintheveins said:Match the forage closely, and don't overlook smaller to medium sized swimbaits.
There are no trout where I live, Hudds catch some really nice fish .... so much for "matching the forage closely"
Throw a Keitech with a Buckeye Lures J-Wil lightwire swimbait head.
My biggest swimbait bass to date ate a Slammer in a pond so small I could easily cast across it. Bass will eat swimbaits anywhere they live and as long as they eat other fish.
Lots of good info here.
Do you guys prefer the regular colors or the phantom?
Also a few of the lakes I fish has tons of flooded timber in it. Was thinking of trying the Huddleston 68 weedless so I won't get hung up or would you get the regular model?
On 5/15/2017 at 11:18 AM, Buckjunkie said:Lots of good info here.
Do you guys prefer the regular colors or the phantom?
Also a few of the lakes I fish has tons of flooded timber in it. Was thinking of trying the Huddleston 68 weedless so I won't get hung up or would you get the regular model?
Tell me, would you throw the "regular" model here ?
On 5/15/2017 at 11:24 AM, Raul said:
Tell me, would you throw the "regular" model here ?
I just didn't know how good the hook sets are with the weedless one, but it's just what I need. This will be my first to try out. Now got to decide what rate of fall I need.
On 5/15/2017 at 11:18 AM, Buckjunkie said:Lots of good info here.
Do you guys prefer the regular colors or the phantom?
Also a few of the lakes I fish has tons of flooded timber in it. Was thinking of trying the Huddleston 68 weedless so I won't get hung up or would you get the regular model?
I like the green shad color in the 68. I fish the weedless model everywhere because I fish it with more confidence and less worried about hangups so I'll put it where it needs to be to get bit.
On 5/15/2017 at 11:49 AM, Bluebasser86 said:I like the green shad color in the 68. I fish the weedless model everywhere because I fish it with more confidence and less worried about hangups so I'll put it where it needs to be to get bit.
Would you get the 5 or 12 ROF?
On 5/15/2017 at 11:52 AM, Buckjunkie said:Would you get the 5 or 12 ROF?
i tend to stick with rof 12 i feel they are a good medium ground
On 5/15/2017 at 11:39 AM, Buckjunkie said:I just didn't know how good the hook sets are with the weedless one, but it's just what I need. This will be my first to try out. Now got to decide what rate of fall I need.
Get the ROF 12, I got both and the ROF 5 is ..... made for people with more patience than Jesus Christ.
Thanks guys! To start out, I'm gonna get the Spro Rat 40 and the Huddleston 68 weedless.
On 5/15/2017 at 12:00 PM, Buckjunkie said:Thanks guys! To start out, I'm gonna get the Spro Rat 40 and the Huddleston 68 weedless.
go with the 50 if there's one thing i've learned about swimbaits you always end up wanting bigger
On 5/15/2017 at 11:52 AM, Buckjunkie said:Would you get the 5 or 12 ROF?
ROF12 for sure unless it's really shallow. Like it's been mentioned, you have to reel painfully slow to keep a 5 anywhere other than on the surface. You can still crawl a 12, but you can reel it a little faster also.
Get the 50 Spro rat, I like Hippie rat (morning dawn). The bigger baits just have more drawing power, especially with surface baits it seems.
I fish a lake in PA that's around 50 acres, maybe 65. It has some magnum bass in it. I'm no expert, but I like a 6" Megabass Magdraft. I replace the front hook with a 1/0 red Gammy. Have caught many nice ones on that set-up.
its worth mentioning: this place is 6' deep MAX, average of 3.5'. I wanted something slow sinking.
On 5/15/2017 at 10:07 AM, Raul said:
There are no trout where I live, Hudds catch some really nice fish .... so much for "matching the forage closely"
While I don't disagree with you, that's not to say something that did match a local forage species more closely *may* be more likely to draw a strike.
I've never fished in Louisiana but I'm pretty sure that Shad is probably at the top of the list as far as forage goes , the Bull Shad would be a good selection . I've done well with this bait painted in a Golden Shiner pattern . One bait that gets bit everywhere is a Matt Lures Hardgill, that is definitely another good bait to consider .
I can't wait to try out the rat and the 68. Hopefully next week. I can also see where this can get real expensive
On 5/16/2017 at 2:31 AM, Primus said:I've never fished in Louisiana but I'm pretty sure that Shad is probably at the top of the list as far as forage goes , the Bull Shad would be a good selection . I've done well with this bait painted in a Golden Shiner pattern . One bait that gets bit everywhere is a Matt Lures Hardgill, that is definitely another good bait to consider .
Mattlures also came out with a shad version. Go figure! ??
Just looked at the Matt Lures Strong Shad. Man that thing looks real, but it is pricey.
On 5/15/2017 at 7:23 PM, Master Bait'r said:
While I don't disagree with you, that's not to say something that did match a local forage species more closely *may* be more likely to draw a strike.
Then forget all that match the local forage base, THE ONLY FORAGE YOU WILL ALWAYS FIND ANYWHERE IN THE PLANET WHERE BASS ARE FOUND IS -----> BABY BASS.
I do best not matching the hatch. Our bass eat tons of baby bluegills, but for the life of me I can't catch a big swimbait bass on a gill bait. Caught lots of dinks to 3 pounders on gills, but no big ones. Now give me a big bone colored bait, or something in Hitch color, and I'll do work.
Hard baits:
MS Slammer Wake Bait
Deps 175 or 250 Glide Baits
Bullshad for multijointed hard bait
Soft Swimbait - Miyagi Swimmer
Rat 50 came in today. It will be next week before I can try it out. Gotta decide which rod I'm gonna use to launch that baby.
On 5/18/2017 at 3:13 AM, Buckjunkie said:Rat 50 came in today. It will be next week before I can try it out. Gotta decide which rod I'm gonna use to launch that baby.
what do you have that can handle it?
If you are fishing heavy vegetation I would add the HuudGill in lieu of the Mattlures Hardgill.
Tom
On 5/18/2017 at 3:17 AM, Scarborough817 said:what do you have that can handle it?
I have a Dobyns 806cb. A powell max 735 frog rod and a Dobyns 735c. Can I get by with one of these?
On 5/18/2017 at 6:48 AM, Buckjunkie said:I have a Dobyns 806cb. A powell max 735 frog rod and a Dobyns 735c. Can I get by with one of these?
the 806 should be okay just be careful when casting
I have a buddy with a pond full of eager stunted bass and I loaded all my rods up with big bass lures hoping to catch the "biggest bass in the pond." Well, yesterday I got a good many bites on the Rat, size 40. It was overcast all afternoon. None of these bass were "big", but given the average in the pond, they were better than I usually catch there. Now I wish I had the size 50. I also tried a Savage Gear S Waver in bass pattern-no bites. I caught a good many on a gold spinnerbait.
I left him 24 bass and bluegills in his basket. The bluegills were caught on a 1/4 oz. Rooster Tail. This also caught a few small bass, which are fun on the light combo I was using.
The rain forced me to stay at home this weekend so it will be next week before I get to try any swim baits out. In the mean time, being forced to stay indoors caused me to order a Matt Lures soft shad swimbait and a Live Target shad swimbait. Now I'm looking at the Matt Lures bluegill.