I'm going out to throw a spinnerbait for a while later, but I have a couple questions about them. First of all, will 10lb. Berkeley Vanish be heavy enough for open water fishing with a 1/2 oz. spinnerbait? I know some people hate that line but I've used it a couple times and I haven't had any problems with it yet. Also, is it ok to put a colorado blade on a spinnerbait that was designed for a willow leaf blade? I'm using the Strike King KVD finesse double willow spinnerbait, but I have a new colorado blade I want to swap out for that willow blade. Thanks.
1: They throw heavier crankbaits on 10 lb test , so yes it can be done . I prefer heavier line for a spinnerbait because I'm usually tossing them in and around heavy cover .
2: Yes , experiment with blades all you want .
On 10/21/2018 at 10:33 PM, scaleface said:1: They throw heavier crankbaits on 10 lb test , so yes it can be done . I prefer heavier line for a spinnerbait because I'm usually tossing them in and around heavy cover .
2: Yes , experiment with blades all you want .
Alright. Thanks. Would you use a willow or colorado blade this time of year? It'll be about 50 - 55 degrees at the time I'm fishing.
10 lb wouldn't be my choice for a 1/2 spinnerbait, but it will work. I'm a big fan of switching blades. I don't know the fish preference down south, but I'm thinking I'd start with the willow, and maybe an indiana before a colorado right now, the water is still not too cold, and baitfish abound.
On 10/21/2018 at 10:57 PM, EGbassing said:Alright. Thanks. Would you use a willow or colorado blade this time of year? It'll be about 50 - 55 degrees at the time I'm fishing.
I would probably throw willow's but dont know which would be better .
On 10/21/2018 at 11:07 PM, scaleface said:I would probably throw willow's but dont know which would be better .
Alright. I'll stick with my gold willows then. Thanks.
Why 10lb Vanish? Spinning tackle?
Tom
On 10/21/2018 at 11:55 PM, WRB said:Why 10lb Vanish? Spinning tackle?
Tom
I just threw up a little in my mouth....
On 10/21/2018 at 11:55 PM, WRB said:Why 10lb Vanish? Spinning tackle?
Tom
Nope. I bought it for my jerkbait baitcaster but it's the only line I have besides some 17 lb. mono now.
On 10/21/2018 at 11:59 PM, reason said:I just threw up a little in my mouth....
I must have gotten the best spool of Vanish ever because I haven't had any problems at all with it so far. I even tested the strength before and after soaking in water and it was pretty strong.
Water clarity should determine your blade choice. Clear water start with a willow. If the water is stained/dirty you want the thump of a Colorado.
I have such success with Colorado blades is both clear and stained water, that I use Colorados all the time.
Putting Colorado blades on the bait will be okay. I sometimes put a small Colorado blade on the clevis with a larger willow leaf on the end. I have some with 2 Colorado blades on them. I would use silver blades for clearer water and gold blades for murky water.
1/2 oz spinnerbait is a lure with a heavy wire hook and 10 lb line is marginal, your 17 lb is a better choice imo.
Vanish isn’t in the same class as Sunline or Seaguar FC and I woukdn’t use any 10 lb FC for 1/2 oz spinnerbait, it’s not a finesse lure.
Willow blades are designed for speed with minimum water drag, Colorado blades are designed for slower retrieve with maximum water drag, the combination slows down the lure yet creates more blade flash. Indiana blades are in between and my preferences for deeper running spinnerbaits.
Tom
On 10/22/2018 at 2:20 AM, WRB said:1/2 oz spinnerbait is a lure with a heavy wire hook and 10 lb line is marginal, your 17 lb is a better choice imo.
Vanish isn’t in the same class as Sunline or Seaguar FC and I woukdn’t use any 10 lb FC for 1/2 oz spinnerbait, it’s not a finesse lure.
Willow blades are designed for speed with minimum water drag, Colorado blades are designed for slower retrieve with maximum water drag, the combination slows down the lure yet creates more blade flash. Indiana blades are in between and my preferences for deeper running spinnerbaits.
Tom
Thank you. I trimmed the skirt down a lot a while ago. It's actually more of a finesse looking lure than most spinnerbaits now. I also have 3/8 oz. Do you think the combination of the 3/8 oz. weight, the trimmed skirt, and a light drag would be enough to keep it from snapping? Also, I'm usually just burning it right under the surface so they hook themselves most of the time; I doubt I would have problems with hooksets because of that.
1. I prefer using 12 pound big game mono for my spinnerbait fishing and use heavier line when needed.
2. Experiment with different blade shapes, sizes,colors,etc until you find the one that works best in the areas you are fishing in.
10lb is too light. 12-15lb minimum. Spinnerbaits have heavy wire jig hooks that take a quality line to drive the hook into skin and bone.
If you get a spinnerbait with at least one BIG willow You can probably use it 3/4 of the year in AL. I do in SC. Then I use Colorado blades for colder water. That's partly because colder water here tends to be really off-color.
My favorite line for spinnerbaits is 15 lb Big Game mono, but that 10 lb will do in a pinch. If using around cover or you catch one, check to see if it needs retying.
As stated above, it is OK to experiment with spinnerbait blades.
So how do you know what line test is best for your rod? Take the low and high line test ratings, add them together, divide by 2 and you have the line test for your rod's best performance.
Now go out there and have some fun.
I have 15 pound line on my spinner bait chatter bait rod I don’t go lower than that for theses applications unless I’m fishing small spinner baits like pond Magic’s or war eagle fineness spinner baits. In other words 3/16 to 5/16, 12 pound line will do it.
On 10/22/2018 at 6:47 PM, Burrows said:I have 15 pound line on my spinner bait chatter bait rod I don’t go lower than that for theses applications unless I’m fishing small spinner baits like pond Magic’s or war eagle fineness spinner baits. In other words 3/16 to 5/16 12 pound line will do it.
That's essentially how I do it with 12 and 15 lb BG, but without the math, The 1/8 stanley casts like a 1/4, The SK 3/16 is the same size as a Booyah 5/16, and 3/8 and 1/2 spinnerbaits are all over the place weight wise. Chatters, unless they are micro ones go on MH and 15lb.
10# may get by but it not the best choice for a spinnerbait. I would say 14# is the min. I would go. You can change blades all you want as long as the blade don't overpower the spinnerbait.
On 10/22/2018 at 2:20 AM, WRB said:1/2 oz spinnerbait is a lure with a heavy wire hook and 10 lb line is marginal, your 17 lb is a better choice imo.
Vanish isn’t in the same class as Sunline or Seaguar FC and I woukdn’t use any 10 lb FC for 1/2 oz spinnerbait, it’s not a finesse lure.
Willow blades are designed for speed with minimum water drag, Colorado blades are designed for slower retrieve with maximum water drag, the combination slows down the lure yet creates more blade flash. Indiana blades are in between and my preferences for deeper running spinnerbaits.
Tom
Actually, I just found an oldish spool of 15lb. big game mono. I'd prefer flourocarbon but I guess the mono will do.
On 10/22/2018 at 10:09 PM, EGbassing said:Actually, I just found an oldish spool of 15lb. big game mono. I'd prefer flourocarbon but I guess the mono will do.
The 15# BG will be perfect. Why would you prefer fluoro for a spinnerbait? You gain no advantage using fluoro.
On 10/22/2018 at 10:22 PM, J Francho said:The 15# BG will be perfect. Why would you prefer fluoro for a spinnerbait? You gain no advantage using fluoro.
What about practicing tying knots and exclaiming expletives...
On 10/22/2018 at 10:22 PM, J Francho said:The 15# BG will be perfect. Why would you prefer fluoro for a spinnerbait? You gain no advantage using fluoro.
Well he wants to make sure that when the chatter bait wile going 75 miles an hour on a 10 speed reel, that looks nothing like a fish by the way, that the fish doesn’t notice the line. ????????♂️
On 10/23/2018 at 2:17 AM, Burrows said:Well he wants to make sure that when the chatter bait wile going 75 miles an hour on a 10 speed reel, that looks nothing like a fish by the way, that the fish doesn’t notice the line. ????????♂️
I’m inserting the laughing face before I’m taken seriously ????
On 10/23/2018 at 2:17 AM, Burrows said:Well he wants to make sure that when the chatter bait wile going 75 miles an hour on a 10 speed reel, that looks nothing like a fish by the way, that the fish doesn’t notice the line.
I prefer flouro because I can feel what the blades are doing all the time. I know if the blades are ticking rocks, snagging weeds, getting bumped by fish, etc.
On 10/23/2018 at 2:24 AM, EGbassing said:I prefer flouro because I can feel what the blades are doing all the time. I know if the blades are ticking rocks, snagging weeds, getting bumped by fish, etc.
You won't feel any noticeable difference using moving baits on a decent rod.
Is 10# mono ideal for spnrb8s up to 3/4 oz.? No, but I do it all the time. ????
On 10/23/2018 at 4:53 AM, detroit1 said:Is 10# mono ideal for spnrb8s up to 3/4 oz.? No, but I do it all the time. ????
Ever broken one off on that? I decided to go with 15 lb. mono today but I'm wondering how strong 10lb. is.
No. In fact I caught my biggest pike (44") ever on 10#xl....
On 10/21/2018 at 11:07 PM, scaleface said:I would probably throw willow's but dont know which would be better .
Willow blades work great in South Florida where the water is clear.
On 10/23/2018 at 3:31 AM, J Francho said:You won't feel any noticeable difference using moving baits on a decent rod.
I agree. I use 12 pound test big mono for most of my spinnerbait fishing and do well.
On 10/22/2018 at 10:22 PM, J Francho said:Why would you prefer fluoro for a spinnerbait? You gain no advantage using fluoro.
I tried various brands of flourocarbon for spinnerbait fishing and I was not impressed. Flourocarbon seems to break easier than big game mono. I will stick to big game mono when it comes to spinnerbait fishing.
1) I have used 12lb Berkley Big Game for spinnerbaits in open water and light cover and only lost one (it snagged between two rocks - there was no getting that one back). I'd think 10lb line might be usable, but is far from ideal especially with Vanish. I personally like 15lbs for fishing spinnerbaits in pretty much all conditions unless I'm fishing in some really heavy weeds, at which point I'd use 17lbs line. I have had great luck with Berkley Trilene Fluorocarbon in 15# for spinnerbaits myself.
2) There is no harm in experimenting with different blades. Different blades work in different conditions and different lakes.
Wow...
On 10/23/2018 at 4:54 AM, EGbassing said:Ever broken one off on that? I decided to go with 15 lb. mono today but I'm wondering how strong 10lb. is.
I'll take the the 15 lb BG and lay the points. You are comparing a line with some of the highest shock and knot strength to one with the worst. Even 10 lb BG to 10 lb Vanish wouldn't be a fair fight.
On 10/23/2018 at 8:20 PM, reason said:I'll take the the 15 lb BG and lay the points. You are comparing a line with some of the highest shock and knot strength to one with the worst. Even 10 lb BG to 10 lb Vanish wouldn't be a fair fight.
Just wondering, how long ago was the last time you used a spool of vanish? Almost everybody that's used it says it's awful but I strength tested mine and it seemed at least as strong as my Stren flourocarbon. It's been pretty good so far. That makes me wonder if they just recently started using a new blend to make the line.
Two pages of recommendations.... I guess, you know better. Good luck!
On 10/23/2018 at 9:37 PM, J Francho said:Two pages of recommendations.... I guess, you know better. Good luck!
I decided to go with the mono...
I throw my spinnerbaits on a 6'6 MH/F in a 6.8/1 with 15lb P-Line. It's one of my confidence baits. I love throwing around shallow cover, along weed edges, and over grass flats. For clear water, I primarily throw white or glimmering blue/silver with silver willow blades in daylight conditions and black with colorado blade at night. If the water has a slight stain to it I will throw a touch of chartreuse with gold blades. The gold seem to flash a little better in stained/dirty water.