It seems like its a pretty good jerkbait and with a price between a husky jerk and a pointer I think I might need to pick a couple up. Any opinions?
I never used it personally, but it's pretty hard to find a bad SPRO lure anymore... I'd so go for it.
I've got one that I found stuck in the water willow last winter. About the same size and profile of a Rogue but a more slashing action like the pointer. I like it pretty well. You might check out Excaliber's jerkbaits. They have a smaller one the size of a 78 LC pointer and a bigger one the size of a Rogue, I've done very well with them and they are in between in price too.
Thanks for the input Bluebasser. I think I just might get a couple plus some pointers and some floating rogues and the list goes on and on!
Besides the Little John SPRO is knocking off every bait imagineable that works so NO I will not try a bait from a company who has such unethical business practices.
Allen
QuoteBesides the Little John SPRO is knocking off every bait imagineable that works so NO I will not try a bait from a company who has such unethical business practices.Allen
Why do you say that the McStick is a knock-off? A knock-off of what? I have talked with Mike McClelland extensively about how he designed the McStick and I can assure you that it is not a knock-off of anything.
QuoteBesides the Little John SPRO is knocking off every bait imagineable that works so NO I will not try a bait from a company who has such unethical business practices.Allen
That's a pretty ignorant statement. What evidence do you have to back it up? What bait's are you talking about?
McSticks work for me, Norman Flake is an excellent color for murky water. It's a good bait when the water temp is in the 45-55 degree range.
I think these are worth a look.
http://store.ebait.com/merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=StrikePro&Category_Code=FWJB
They work great! They are weighted and throw great in the wind. Have excellent hooks and are fish catchers. They need to keep adding colors to the line. It's not a Megabass 110, but it is the closest thing to it.
I have not done well with the McStick although others have. It was the "go to" jerkbait on Table Rock when first introduced three years ago. Straight out of the package, you may have to weight your bait to get it to suspend, but it does cast very well. The Norman Flake color was the favored color in the clear waters of Table Rock. It has a pretty wide side to side action. I even tired shaving the bill a bit to get more bites, but that didn't work for me either. Always the tinkerer....
I'm not sure why but I haven't done real well with this bait, maybe I used it at the wrong time etc. but I seem to do better on other jerkbaits. I will reccomend the Ima Flit for anyone who's willing to pay for it.
Gabes I started to look at it because I thought it was similar in shape to the Megabass 110 and with its price how can I say no now ;D
Doesn't pretty much all companies make copies of other companies baits? That's really true with soft plastic companies. Everyone has a trick worm, everyone has some sort or brush hog or creature, swimming tail worm, lizard, craw, beaver, tube. Just because a bait looks the same doesn't mean it is. You could make 2 cranks that look exactly alike but put a different number of rattles in it or make them out of different material and they'll work completly different.
i have used a bunch of stick baits and the mcstick is one of the best i have used .also munkin how can you say spro rips off everybody thier lures have a look of thier own i can tell a little john just by looking at it cant say that for a lot of crank baits if this is your claim prove it.
Besides the Little John SPRO is knocking off every bait imagineable that works so NO I will not try a bait from a company who has such unethical business practices.
Allen
He did say besides the Little John, they have a look all their own, but so does the mcstick really.
I watched a buddy fish one, quality bait for sure. But there are so many quality jerkbaits out these days I don't see myself needing one.
I should add - you can catch "Bonus" fish on a McStick also - here's a pic of an 8 lb. carp I caught on one. I would say it's a fluke, except it is the 2nd Buglemouth I have caught on a McStick.
So I am the only one here who thinks the McStick is a MB Vision knockoff? And the SPRO Dawg is not a copy of the Sammy? Like I said I applaud them for the little john as it is an original design.
Allen
QuoteSo I am the only one here who thinks the McStick is a MB Vision knockoff? And the SPRO Dawg is not a copy of the Sammy? Like I said I applaud them for the little john as it is an original design.Allen
I guess some people need to hold a Megabass Vision 110 and a SPRO McStick side byside.... Scarry Close! :-X
I tell you what. I will be seeing Mike McClelland tomorrow. I will ask him how many times he had to send the prototype back to the company until they got the bill angle perfect. I can't remember if it was four of five times. I'll ask him if he copied the MB Vision body and bill.
QuoteI tell you what. I will be seeing Mike McClelland tomorrow. I will ask him how many times he had to send the prototype back to the company until they got the bill angle perfect. I can't remember if it was four of five times. I'll ask him if he copied the MB Vision body and bill.
I am sure he put some work into it I just don't think it is an original design.
Allen
QuoteI tell you what. I will be seeing Mike McClelland tomorrow. I will ask him how many times he had to send the prototype back to the company until they got the bill angle perfect. I can't remember if it was four of five times. I'll ask him if he copied the MB Vision body and bill.
Hope he tells you the truth....ha!
OK I asked him.
He said when Spro let him design a stick bait he used things that he liked about other jerkbaits and put it into his design. He wanted the action of the Smithwick but he couldn't cast it well in the wind. So he had them put a weight transfer system in it so it would cast a long way no matter what the condition. He liked the body style of the MB Vision but he didn't like how it suspended. So the difference between the MB Vision and the McStick cannot be seen until you get it into the water and let it suspend. You will notice that the McStick suspends with the nose slightly down and the MB Vision almost stands on it's head.
Sounds like a good explanation to me.
ive given the McStick several hours on the water... its a decent bait with a nice tight walk to it, but vision 110 it is not. The vision has more of a roll to it. I would say the action is more akin to an ima flit...
ive caught fish on em, but i will say that the 110 and flit have caught more fish in comparison. Not really scientific, just my experience. the price is nice, though.
I've got a few that I throw on occasion, but I just about always reach for my LC pointers when I want to throw a hard jerkbait.
Just picked up two in Nashville at the Bass University
event. We are on a BIG jerkbait bite on the
Tennessee River right now. I'll post results shortly.
QuoteSo I am the only one here who thinks the McStick is a MB Vision knockoff? And the SPRO Dawg is not a copy of the Sammy? Like I said I applaud them for the little john as it is an original design.Allen
I got a chuckle when I saw the add for the spro dawg in bassin'. I have really good luck with L.C.'s sammy in MS "american shad" so my eye was drawn to spro's "old glory" color. ;D
I can't fault a company for making a similar bait to others or even if they tried to copy it exactly. With so many companys, how can you expect them to be original with each type of bait, and expect it to work well? Even if it's "copied" I don't think it will have the exact same action, maybe that will make it a better bait, worse, or maybe just better if different situations.
I got a chuckle when I saw the add for the spro dawg in bassin'. I have really good luck with L.C.'s sammy in MS "american shad" so my eye was drawn to spro's "old glory" color.
I bought "Old Glory" and compared it directly with the Pointer
in "American Shad". Maybe the action will be different, but
the color is identical and the profile is very similar.
QuoteQuoteI tell you what. I will be seeing Mike McClelland tomorrow. I will ask him how many times he had to send the prototype back to the company until they got the bill angle perfect. I can't remember if it was four of five times. I'll ask him if he copied the MB Vision body and bill.I am sure he put some work into it I just don't think it is an original design.
Allen
What a fascinating argument! I think you should sue on behalf of God. Clearly every minnow bait ever crafted is a blatant attempt at ripping Him off by copying the minnow. Let us know how the court case goes.
I'm curious how exactly you could come up with an original jerkbait design now? Give it a short fat body? Make it lipless? Build it to reel in tail first?
QuoteQuoteQuoteI tell you what. I will be seeing Mike McClelland tomorrow. I will ask him how many times he had to send the prototype back to the company until they got the bill angle perfect. I can't remember if it was four of five times. I'll ask him if he copied the MB Vision body and bill.I am sure he put some work into it I just don't think it is an original design.
Allen
What a fascinating argument! I think you should sue on behalf of God. Clearly every minnow bait ever crafted is a blatant attempt at ripping Him off by copying the minnow. Let us know how the court case goes.
So now God created the original jerkbait?
Allen
Hey Roadwarrior, did you get a chance to throw it yet?
QuoteI'm curious how exactly you could come up with an original jerkbait design now? Give it a short fat body? Make it lipless? Build it to reel in tail first?
I'm not sure either, LOL. Laurie Rapala must be rolling in his grave. ;D
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI tell you what. I will be seeing Mike McClelland tomorrow. I will ask him how many times he had to send the prototype back to the company until they got the bill angle perfect. I can't remember if it was four of five times. I'll ask him if he copied the MB Vision body and bill.I am sure he put some work into it I just don't think it is an original design.
Allen
What a fascinating argument! I think you should sue on behalf of God. Clearly every minnow bait ever crafted is a blatant attempt at ripping Him off by copying the minnow. Let us know how the court case goes.
So now God created the original jerkbait?
Allen
You apparently didn't understand my post.
Sorry, sarcasm is lost on some.
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteI tell you what. I will be seeing Mike McClelland tomorrow. I will ask him how many times he had to send the prototype back to the company until they got the bill angle perfect. I can't remember if it was four of five times. I'll ask him if he copied the MB Vision body and bill.I am sure he put some work into it I just don't think it is an original design.
Allen
What a fascinating argument! I think you should sue on behalf of God. Clearly every minnow bait ever crafted is a blatant attempt at ripping Him off by copying the minnow. Let us know how the court case goes.
So now God created the original jerkbait?
Allen
You apparently didn't understand my post.
Sorry, sarcasm is lost on some.
I understood just fine and my question was right on par with your statement.
Now let me explain what I mean by "original design" to clarify. When the bait was designed they copy another bait then just make a few changes is not what I consider "original".
Lucky craft pointer is a original design.
http://www.***.com/Lucky_Craft_Pointer_Minnow/descpage-LCPT.html#multiview
Xcaliber Xt3 this is not
http://www.***.com/XCalibur_Xt3_Twitch_Bait_/descpage-XT3TB.html#multiview