Improved Zoom Super Fluke Rigging with Owner Twistlock CPS and Heat Shrink - instructions w/ pics 2024
tcbass reply :
I love using Zoom Super Flukes, especially under docks. However, it seemed that with weightless Texas Rigging the hole where the hook goes through the fluke would eventually get tore up and allow the hook to poke through too much ruining it's weedlessnes and it would start fouling a lot on weeds.
I saw a video on here posted by another Bass Resource'r that showed using a medium Owner CPS Twistlock to nosehook the fluke like a Banjo Minnow. It seemed great so I tried it. However, I lost 3 CPS Twistlocks because the opening was just too big for the hook. They weren't lost fighting fish, just during casting. Since I didn't want to change the hook or Twistlock size I had to find a way to keep it on. Owner CPS Twistlocks aren't cheap, so I wanted to avoid losing them. I thought about it and tried putting on some Heat Shrink Tubing on the hook first, then adding the Twistlock, and then putting the rest of the heat shrink over the hook and cutting the excess heat shrink.
We tried it out today and if worked great. Caught a lot of sunnies and largemouth including this 3.5lber. Didn't lose any more Flukes or Twistlocks.
Also, for some reason this seems to be more weedless than any other way I've tried rigging Super Flukes, including T-Rigging.
What you need:
1.) Zoom Super Fluke
2.) 1/8" inch Heat Shrink
3.) Owner Twistlock CPS - medium size
4.) Hook of your choice (I like 2/0 Owner Mosquito Hooks)
riverbasser reply :
I've never used this setup but its always great when you try to make something better and it actually works. Thanks for sharing
tcbass reply :
On 7/18/2017 at 11:15 AM, riverbasser said:I've never used this setup but its always great when you try to make something better and it actually works. Thanks for sharing
I always battle between using weightless Senko's with tubing or Zoom Super Flukes for docks and open water fishing. Right now I'm using the flukes a lot. Will I go back to the Senkos, not until I stop catching fish on the flukes I guess.
kickerfish1 reply :
Great tips but around here you have to run them weedless. Would be great for the guys that fish less weedy lakes.
riverbasser reply :
Try that same setup with a SK caffeine shad, i used to throw a lot of flukes until I found the caffiene shads.
tcbass reply :
On 7/18/2017 at 11:28 AM, kickerfish1 said:Great tips but around here you have to run them weedless. Would be great for the guys that fish less weedy lakes.
T-Rigging and skinning the hook under the fluke's skin once you poke through is one of the most common ways of making them weedless.....until you catch a few fish and can't skin them anymore.
- You could do it this way and use a weedless hook.
What way do you rig them to make them weedless where you fish?
Bass_Fishing_Socal reply :
Your way is good to keep thing on for sure.
For me, normally I rig Fluke weedless style but if I wanna do banjo style then I will screw twist lock all the way into Fluke as much as I can and use circle hook instead hook into Fluke nose through twstlock. BTW, you can order those twistlock from eBay by 100 just for a few bucks.
ChrisD46 reply :
When your "M" size CPS pins are used up could you not just go down to a "S" size without the tubing ?
tcbass reply :
On 7/18/2017 at 7:07 PM, ChrisD46 said:When your "M" size CPS pins are used up could you not just go down to a "S" size without the tubing ?
Yes, but because they are smaller I think you would get less grip and lose more.
On 7/18/2017 at 11:30 AM, riverbasser said:Try that same setup with a SK caffeine shad, i used to throw a lot of flukes until I found the caffiene shads.
Why? More effective at catching fish?
Joshua Vandamm reply :
I got this one. Lol
On 7/18/2017 at 8:26 PM, tcbass said:
Yes, but because they are smaller I think you would get less grip and lose more.
Why? More effective at catching fish?
Way better action nose hooked, and by fixing the hook into position he's less likely to miss a set than with a loose hook that can slide down toward the cps eye or turn
ib_of_the_damned reply :
What about cutting a section of heat shrink and then placing it on the opening of the CPS, heating it and then inserting the hook. It would resemble a spinnerbait trailer hook.
I would try it, but I don't fish flukes very often.
tcbass reply :
On 7/19/2017 at 2:06 AM, ib_of_the_damned said:What about cutting a section of heat shrink and then placing it on the opening of the CPS, heating it and then inserting the hook. It would resemble a spinnerbait trailer hook.
I would try it, but I don't fish flukes very often.
O. That could work too I think.
J Francho reply :
I just skewer the nose on the hook. Flukes are cheap enough, and pretty durable.
tcbass reply :
On 7/19/2017 at 2:24 AM, J Francho said:I just skewer the nose on the hook. Flukes are cheap enough, and pretty durable.
You can save time not going into your tackle box and putting a new Fluke on.
Also, if I can make a bag last twice as long, that's money saved for me.
ChrisD46 reply :
Perhaps screwing the "M" sized CSP down a couple more turns in the nose would secure the hook better while still allowing freedom of movement for the Fluke ?
tcbass reply :
On 7/19/2017 at 3:59 AM, ChrisD46 said:Perhaps screwing the "M" sized CSP down a couple more turns in the nose would secure the hook better while still allowing freedom of movement for the Fluke ?
I tried that, didn't work. I think it got worked loose and/or was never tight enough.
Joshua Vandamm reply :
On 7/19/2017 at 3:59 AM, ChrisD46 said:Perhaps screwing the "M" sized CSP down a couple more turns in the nose would secure the hook better while still allowing freedom of movement for the Fluke ?
On 7/19/2017 at 4:37 AM, tcbass said:
I tried that, didn't work. I think it got worked loose and/or was never tight enough.
It's a good solution. There's several alternatives that come to mind. Superglue, or just melting the plastic over the eye/hook etc
tcbass reply :
On 7/19/2017 at 6:12 AM, Jvanda1 said:
It's a good solution. There's several alternatives that come to mind. Superglue, or just melting the plastic over the eye/hook etc
I don't like using superglue if I don't have too, especially on my boat, it would be a disaster. lol. Also, don't like to have to use fire either.
This solution has worked over a few trips and many fish and haven't lost any CPS Twistlocks since. Have had a few flukes torn but that's how they work. It's also a cheap solution as the entire pack of heat shrink only cost 99 cents and I've had it for 6 years.
Unless you lose the heat shrink and CPS, one piece of heat shrink and one Owner CPS could last you indefinitely.
NHBull reply :
I applaud the idea,
But Flukes are cheap and landing an extra one, just isn't worth the effort
tcbass reply :
On 7/19/2017 at 6:50 AM, NHBull said:I applaud the idea,
But Flukes are cheap and landing an extra one, just isn't worth the effort
Landing an extra what fish? I'm not understanding what you're saying?
Flukes are cheap but CPS Twistlocks aren't. Using this method takes 3 seconds to do and then you virtually won't lose any more CPS Twistlocks. Sure you'll keep going through Flukes as expected but you most likely won't lose any Flukes or CPS Twistlocks just by having your rod getting ready to cast or casting. And like I said, a pack of heat shrink is 99 cents and has lasted almost a decade.
I'm not saying anyone has to do this or that it's the best way. Just spreading this tip for those who want to add it to their toolbox.
I really like nose rigging Flukes because of the weedlessness and action and this way of rigging them has been great for us. Do whatever works for you and enjoy!
NHBull reply :
On 7/19/2017 at 7:11 AM, tcbass said:
Landing an extra what fish? I'm not understanding what you're saying?
Flukes are cheap but CPS Twistlocks aren't. Using this method takes 3 seconds to do and then you virtually won't lose any more CPS Twistlocks. Sure you'll keep going through Flukes as expected but you most likely won't lose any Flukes or CPS Twistlocks just by having your rod getting ready to cast or casting. And like I said, a pack of heat shrink is 99 cents and has lasted almost a decade.
I'm not saying anyone has to do this or that it's the best way. Just spreading this tip for those who want to add it to their toolbox.
I really like nose rigging Flukes because of the weedlessness and action and this way of rigging them has been great for us. Do whatever works for you and enjoy!
My misunderstanding!!!!, I never loose twist locks so it didn't occur to me
tcbass reply :
On 7/19/2017 at 7:35 AM, NHBull said:My misunderstanding!!!!, I never loose twist locks so it didn't occur to me
Ah. Weird for me because I watched the video on using a CPS Twistlock and the guy never said anything about losing any.
I used the exact set up he did and quickly lost 3 CPS Twistlocks in a few mins. lol
TxHawgs reply :
I just use a Owner twistlock 4/0 skin hooked. Works great and completely weedless. Do the same w Owner flashy hooks.
Joshua Vandamm reply :
On 7/19/2017 at 11:32 AM, TxHawgs said:
On 7/19/2017 at 11:32 AM, TxHawgs said:I just use a Owner twistlock 4/0 skin hooked. Works great and completely weedless. Do the same w Owner flashy hooks.
Totally different presentation. He's nose hooking with a dropshot style hook. More erratic action.
1201vilbig reply :
What about putting a wacky o-ring on the nose of the fluke & bring your nose hook behind the o-ring?
the reel ess reply :
Hey, I like this! I'vebeen nose-rigging flukes since I saw a YouTube video on it. It helps the action out a lot by getting action throughout the entire bait and the hookup ratio is better. Plus you don't need to swing for the fences on the hookset. Just tighten up and reel. Have you tried the Mann's Hardnose jerkbait? It's extremely durable in the nose area. You won't need anything but the hook for it. But I understand brand loyalty. I've caught a lot of fish on the Zoom as well.
http://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Manns_Hardnose_Jerkbait_/descpage-MHNJ.html
Joshua Vandamm reply :
On 7/19/2017 at 11:14 PM, 1201vilbig said:What about putting a wacky o-ring on the nose of the fluke & bring your nose hook behind the o-ring?
I think you'd loss the fluke on every strike.
On 7/19/2017 at 11:23 PM, the reel ess said:Hey, I like this! I'vebeen nose-rigging flukes since I saw a YouTube video on it. It helps the action out a lot by getting action throughout the entire bait and the hookup ratio is better. Plus you don't need to swing for the fences on the hookset. Just tighten up and reel. Have you tried the Mann's Hardnose jerkbait? It's extremely durable in the nose area. You won't need anything but the hook for it. But I understand brand loyalty. I've caught a lot of fish on the Zoom as well.
http://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Manns_Hardnose_Jerkbait_/descpage-MHNJ.html
Yea I saw it too. Tactical Bassin I think.
tcbass reply :
On 7/19/2017 at 11:23 PM, the reel ess said:Hey, I like this! I'vebeen nose-rigging flukes since I saw a YouTube video on it. It helps the action out a lot by getting action throughout the entire bait and the hookup ratio is better. Plus you don't need to swing for the fences on the hookset. Just tighten up and reel. Have you tried the Mann's Hardnose jerkbait? It's extremely durable in the nose area. You won't need anything but the hook for it. But I understand brand loyalty. I've caught a lot of fish on the Zoom as well.
http://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Manns_Hardnose_Jerkbait_/descpage-MHNJ.html
Thanks. I'll have to look into that. I could work better than the Zoom. Next time I order from TW I'll have to order some.
One nice think about Zoom is that you can find them at any store and they are cheap. So, that would have to be an online order.
Joshua Vandamm reply :
On 7/19/2017 at 11:23 PM, the reel ess said:Hey, I like this! I'vebeen nose-rigging flukes since I saw a YouTube video on it. It helps the action out a lot by getting action throughout the entire bait and the hookup ratio is better. Plus you don't need to swing for the fences on the hookset. Just tighten up and reel. Have you tried the Mann's Hardnose jerkbait? It's extremely durable in the nose area. You won't need anything but the hook for it. But I understand brand loyalty. I've caught a lot of fish on the Zoom as well.
http://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Manns_Hardnose_Jerkbait_/descpage-MHNJ.html
Some interesting colors...I'm eyeing the black chart nose, and maybe root beer metal fk. Which do you like in clear to green-stained waters?
tcbass reply :
On 7/20/2017 at 2:52 AM, Jvanda1 said:Some interesting colors...I'm eyeing the black chart nose, and maybe root beer metal fk. Which do you like in clear to green-stained waters?
If it was me I'd do pearl and chartreuse metal flake.
When it comes to flukes I've always like white and white with chartreuse tail. In all reality I use white so that I can see it. Color doesn't seem to affect fish catching.
Joshua Vandamm reply :
Yea pearl always. Got a bunch of SK in pearl. And chartruece I have dip for.
Thx
the reel ess reply :
On 7/20/2017 at 2:52 AM, Jvanda1 said:Some interesting colors...I'm eyeing the black chart nose, and maybe root beer metal fk. Which do you like in clear to green-stained waters?
Well, someone I use to work with 3 years ago gave me one root beer and two chartreuse metal flake. Since I was into Zoom, I didn't use any of the Mann;s until last fall when I started trying the nose hook method. There's one place I fish where they just love shades of gold. The fish loved the chartreuse this spring around the spawn. I still have one root beer tied on. I have noticed they aren't in every store, but I believe I've seen them at the local Walmart.
On 7/20/2017 at 2:53 AM, tcbass said:
If it was me I'd do pearl and chartreuse metal flake.
When it comes to flukes I've always like white and white with chartreuse tail. In all reality I use white so that I can see it. Color doesn't seem to affect fish catching.
I have some Zoom in bubble gum color that bass bite.
On 7/20/2017 at 2:19 AM, tcbass said:
Thanks. I'll have to look into that. I could work better than the Zoom. Next time I order from TW I'll have to order some.
One nice think about Zoom is that you can find them at any store and they are cheap. So, that would have to be an online order.
If you have an Amazon prime account (my wife does) you can get them in certain colors with no shipping. I've bought a lot of baits that way. Just be careful. I've bought some the wrong size because I didn't do my research.
TxHawgs reply :
On 7/19/2017 at 12:07 PM, Jvanda1 said:Totally different presentation. He's nose hooking with a dropshot style hook. More erratic action.
Yea I read that I just don't understand how weedless and that kind of rig are in the same sentence lol.
Joshua Vandamm reply :
On 7/20/2017 at 9:08 AM, TxHawgs said:Yea I read that I just don't understand how weedless and that kind of rig are in the same sentence lol.
If there's no lay downs or brush?
Pearl black and chartruece are kinda my go to for most plastics. That's why the black interests me. Anyone try it for low light conditions?
flyfisher reply :
Even easier solution is to find a buddy who pours and have them dip the nose of said fluke in clear hard plastic. Yo ulna then nose hook to your heart's content with no issues. I have some stankxbaitco stick baits that i asked him to do this for me and i can fish the same bait almost all day and have zero issues.
tcbass reply :
On 7/20/2017 at 9:08 AM, TxHawgs said:Yea I read that I just don't understand how weedless and that kind of rig are in the same sentence lol.
I don't know how it works either but it just works now. I obviously don't throw right into weeds but fishing under docks and open water that have weeds and it still works well. Sometimes you do get weeds though.
bowhunter63 reply :
Thanks for posting,Gonna give it a try.
the reel ess reply :
On 7/20/2017 at 9:08 AM, TxHawgs said:Yea I read that I just don't understand how weedless and that kind of rig are in the same sentence lol.
It's more weedless than you imagine. Of course it's not totally weedless, but was surprised. And the hookups are great with it. Apparently the fish take the bait head first.
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