Senkos, Why Spend The Extra $ When Cheaper Out There 2024

cgolf reply : 

I looked at the senko thread and this wasn't there. What I am curious is why do you buy senkos when alternatives are available that run a lot cheaper including the yum baits I just got for under 3 not on sale.

I will say I am guilty on the swim senko as I have a deep 3700 box filled with my go to colors. Since the new yum swimming dinger has a different tail design and doesn't come in smoke purple, I may be stuck with the swim senko fo a while. I just need to compare the side by side and see how they work.

Are these baits that much better, brand loyalty, the mystique of the bait? I just have a hard time plunking down that much cash for a one fish bait. 15 on a crank you catch 20-100 fish worth it, 80 cents to a buck a bait for hopefully one fish seems crazy to me.

Not trolling on this one, just curious, because people do buy them, they always have a big display in most shops.

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FinCulture reply : 

There I a difference between a lot of worm. Yamamotos are very thick compared to a lot of other worms for example. I think it's most important on a wacky rig, as the surface shape can change how the bait falls, which is important.

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ww2farmer reply : 

Some people need that name on the bag for confidence, and think the GYCB senko is some kind of magic and have ZERO understanding of why it does what it does. I have fished many brands....I don't drink the kool aid. Yes a stick bait is viable option many times, and I use one at least at some point almost every time I am on the water. I have not found one that won't catch fish, even when the bite is tuff. The one thing the GYCB has on the others is weight...the salt and silica powder they add to them makes them cast like bullets, and sink like rocks......rocks with a seductive shimmy on the fall. The same thing can be accomplished with other brands ( I prefer Yum Dingers) with less salt/silica by fishing them on weighted wacky jig heads. I have done a lot of farting around with weights/sticks to get what I want out of a cheaper brand. For example:

 

5" Yum dinger with a 1/16th oz. wacky jig = the same fall rate as a weightless GYCB senko. And the dinger has the same "wiggle" on the fall as the senko once the weight has been added. Since I prefer to fish my stick baits on wacky jigs 99% of the time, this is a win- win for me, I get cheaper, more durable, baits, that catch just as many fish, plus I can adjust the rate of fall more precisely with the lighter dinger, I am not married to the starting weight of the heavy salt/silica laden  flimsy senko.

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jonnyblazex reply : 

  I have tried many many different stick worms, weightless, tx rigged, and wacky.  For some reason the Senko has outperformed others when used the same way. I have had days where the other brands didn't get bit, and put on a Senko and started hammering them.  Senko got destroyed, tried a knockoff again, figuring it dosent matter, and no bites.  Took it off, and senko on, and game on!  I don't know what it is, but you could buy one bag in the color you like, and try it out for yourself.  I agree that the price is high, and durability is not real good, but if I can catch that big fish that make me happy, or wins a tournament, its all worth it!  The Senko is the originator stick worm, all the others are rip off copy cats! 

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EvanT123 reply : 

I buy them for $3 a pack In January.

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bflp3 reply : 

It may have the same fall rate with a weighted wacky head, but the weight concentrated in the center will put a larger bow in the worm as it falls.

I have tried stikos, dingers, and my own home made ones. Senkos just seem to produce better. I now just switch between senkos and my own.

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bigbill reply : 

I use different brands because they last longer and for certain colors.

The BPS STIK O WORM lasts longer but BPS doesn't offer all there colors. They offer you what they don't sell. The popular ones are sold out and not being restocked. I use the gambler ACE for the electric blue. Cost isn't a factor I want the color that works.

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FishTank reply : 

I fished too many knock offs of the senko and there is no equal.  With that said, I will not pay $7+ for a bag.   I wait until DSG has them on sale, use a coupon and stock up.  I usually end up paying about $3.50 to $4.00 a bag.  At that price, they are worth it.  

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jtharris3 reply : 

Why buy filet mignon when you can just go buy a piece of round steak?

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MIbassyaker reply : 

I have not tried all available stickbaits. But, of the ones I have tried, the difference in action between Senkos and others on a wacky rig is noticeable, with the Senko having the advantage. Do the fish care about this difference? They seem to, but its not as though I've done a controlled experiment. And I haven't tried Yum dingers yet, but I've heard multiple people recommend them.

 

More importantly, I don't always wacky rig my stickbaits. This year, for instance, I have been t-rigging them and working them over emergent vegetation, or as a soft jerkbait, more than anything else. And for that, I don't see any reason to prefer the senko over other more durable brands. The Big Bite Baits trick stick is MUCH cheaper and, for these purposes does the job just fine.

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BobP reply : 

I think ww2farmer has a good point.  Senkos are different because they weigh more than the alternatives.  The weight plus the diameter plus the extra salt makes them different and gives them the best action on the fall.

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SirSnookalot reply : 

I've used senkos as well as knockoffs, all pretty much he same to me.  I may use them only a few times a year, that brand of fishing doesn't excite me.  A senko type bait is used only in emergency situation to avoid being skunked.  If one is spending lot of money on their rod, reel and line why get cheap for a few bucks if you think the more expensive brand will work better for you.  The object of the exercise is to catch fish.

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cgolf reply : 

  On 8/15/2015 at 2:46 PM, SirSnookalot said:

I've used senkos as well as knockoffs, all pretty much he same to me.  I may use them only a few times a year, that brand of fishing doesn't excite me.  A senko type bait is used only in emergency situation to avoid being skunked.  If one is spending lot of money on their rod, reel and line why get cheap for a few bucks if you think the more expensive brand will work better for you.  The object of the exercise is to catch fish.

I and many others probably fall into the bassin on a budget group. Over the years I have accumulated a bit of tackle, but each year I have a budget I need to fit everything into. So with the more expensive lures I always like to ask are they worth the extra coin to decide if I finally give them a toss.

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Lendiesel22 reply : 

What ever a GY senko does that the others dont makes the difference. I have fished all the look a likes. I have fished some local customs. Same wiggle, same fall rate, same colors. Something about GY senko though. Not my favorite way to fish but it has its places. If I am in one of those places I have to reach for GY. I have seen too many times where the look a likes get beat out by the orig

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Jon G reply : 

Just take advantage of sales. I do it with all my major tackle-stocking purchases. 

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Chris at Tech reply : 

Why do folks buy high-end rods and reels when they can get a $20 combo at Walmart?

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bigbill reply : 

I was using new old rods with chrome eyelets. I still have some. They were $5 each discounted online. A have a B.A.S.S. rod med/hvy action rod. I retired most of them for new LEWS spinning rods. Half price for older model speed sticks of course.

Bill Dance says buy the best quality rod we can afford. He's not paying quantum for his. But maybe he's right. I'm up to the $99 baitcaster rods and spinning rods. But on sale and I'm not going any more $$ wise.

I miss my older shakespear and south bend rods.

I use FIN-NOR, OKUMA exiptor, viva and globe spinning reels for decades. I retired my D.A.M. QUICK spinning reels there antique now.

I bought them with my first income tax return in '73. I'm trying the U.S. REEL super casters right now. The jury is still out. Fishing from shore casting distance matters. The farther the scent trail gets out there the better.

The weakest link in your setup is your line we need good quality line. I use Excalibur Silver thread copolymer line.

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Primus reply : 

In my opinion Senko's are better that's why I throw them. Yes , they cost more but they are still affordable for the average angler .  Less durable, that's a trait that most of the better soft plastics share, if the bait is catching a lot fish buy another bag when they are done it's not complicated . If you are on a tight budget seek out alternatives, it's fishing go with what you like best that you are comfortable spending . If people are freaked out about durability use Zman, problem solved . 

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Raul reply : 

  On 8/15/2015 at 1:45 PM, BobP said:

I think ww2farmer has a good point.  Senkos are different because they weigh more than the alternatives.  The weight plus the diameter plus the extra salt makes them different and gives them the best action on the fall.

 

Plus extra softness.

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Comfortably Numb reply : 

A custom inject company should be able to make a bait in any weight, softness, and color you want

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ww2farmer reply : 

I'll stand by what I said.................most people don't get it. I am 100% confident in saying if it's a stick bait throwing derby on any of the lakes I know and fish, YOU WILL NOT out fish me because of the name on the bag. Give me brand X,Y, or Z, and everyone else can have their $8/bag stuff and I will still take your money more times than not.

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bigbill reply : 

I twitch each bait where I can see it there's no difference in action.

I'm a color freak I use what works.

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cgolf reply : 

  On 8/15/2015 at 10:55 PM, Chris at Tech said:

Why do folks buy high-end rods and reels when they can get a $20 combo at Walmart?

Actually one of the rigs I keep in my truck and use 5 times a week for plastics is an ugly stick, and the second rod I got a 2 for 50 deal on the wright McGill Clunn rods I use for my cranking. Top end rods for me are my 2 100 buck st croix and 3 Cabela's prodigy rods bought on sale. As for reels, all are 80 buck reels with one daiwa viento bought on clearance for 80. Some of the rods I use regularly are15 years old and I don't feel this gear holds me back. But yeh I will never own a top end reel and rod, I make do quite well with what I got. unless I win the lottery then all bets are off lol

Yes I do shop sales, that is how I ended up with a big box of swim senkos:)

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blckshirt98 reply : 

With the GYCB senkos it's something about their salt/sand formula that makes them quiver on the fall that's hard to duplicate.  Sure with experience you can do well with any stickbait (or any bait for that matter), but I think for most people starting out, the GYCB senko just has that cast and let it fall simplicity to it that makes it easy to fish.  If you can pull a rod and hold it still, you can make the GYCB senko get bit.

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roadwarrior reply : 

I suspect Senkos have accounted for more winning bags in local amature tournaments than all 

other liures combined. Why settle for "secong best"?

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desmobob reply : 

A fishing buddy and I did a comparison test one afternoon.  I fished my usual Yamamoto Senko and he fished another brand (I don't recall what it was, but I know it wasn't the Bass Pro product).  We both agreed that the Senko seemed more effective.

 

Tight lines,

Bob

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hatrix reply : 

I haven't used that many brands of senkos as I kinda despise that bait. With that said I actually was fishing them just today for a little bit. I know it's crazy. Anyways there is without a doubt something about them that puts them above all others. You can side by side then with another brand and they always win. If you know a fish is there as soon as it hits the water it's going to grab it. One brand that I like and has worked well for me is the BPS ones. About the weight on senkos and them being heavy. I. Would have to say the BPS ones are heavier and cast way better then actual senkos. They are also a million times more durable and who doesn't like that.

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tcbass reply : 

I've tried 2 other Senko knock-offs (Yum Dingers, BPS Stickbaits) and haven't had nearly the success. I guess Senko's just have the right amount of salt that makes them soft and sink at a rate that fish love.

 

I used the method below with a Senko that I've used on over 7 fishing trips and it lasted from the end of last year to this year and caught over 60 fish on in including sunnies, crappies, rockbass, and perch that are notorious for pulling at the bait and tearing it up and swallowing it because they are too small. Eventually a little perch tore it in half.

 

 

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Brett Strohl reply : 

You can get stick baits even less expensive than dingers on Ebay.  I think they're all about the same, unless you are interested in some extremely technical differences. 

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SirSnookalot reply : 

Zip ties have been used for years to secure flukes to jig heads fo snook.

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slimshad reply : 

Confidence.

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jbrew73 reply : 

senkos do seem to catch a few more fish but i usually buy dingers for price and durability. if the money is on the line I'll take senkos every time. they just seem to shimmy better than the rest!

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nascar2428 reply : 

I'm in the weightless t-rig camp, 98% of the time that's how I fish em. IMO nothing compares to a senko when it is fished that way. 

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J Francho reply : 

If I'm gonna quit trying to fish, then I'm gonna use the legitimate senko, lol.

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CWB reply : 

I'm like alot of others. Love Senkos, hate one and done. Always on the lookout for sales. I also like BPS Stick-O's. They are pretty darn close in weight to Senko's. But here's the weird part. I have to take one out of the bag and feel it. They are not consistent. I look for baits that are soft and don't snap back to shape instantly. The right ones work every bit as well as Senko's. Same for S.K. Shimee Sticks. These are a little more consistent but a tad lighter. One bait I think out wiggles the Senko is the Havoc Flat Dawg. Awsome wiggle but very light and flimsy. I do not believe that a bass will see a Stick-O wiggle down in front of it and leave it alone and then nail a Senko all other things being equal like color, line etc. I fish them T-Rigged weightless 90% of the time and Wacky the rest. Everyone has their own opinion and just go with what works for you.

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kcdinkerz reply : 

It's voodoo man I'm sure those senkos got black magic casted on them lol

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Scorchx1245 reply : 

Nothing moves like senko in my opinion. If course only time I use them is to fill a bag quick. Or in a pinch. Kinda my fall back lure. I can always skip docks with a senko and catch 5.

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J Francho reply : 

Sometimes I think it would be cheaper to throw a few rolls of quarters into the lake than any of my lures.

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Choporoz reply : 

  On 8/21/2015 at 12:49 AM, Scorchx1245 said:

Nothing moves like senko in my opinion. If course only time I use them is to fill a bag quick. Or in a pinch. Kinda my fall back lure. I can always skip docks with a senko and catch 5.

Do they only catch small fish for you?

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Last_Cast reply : 

  On 8/15/2015 at 10:33 AM, EvanT123 said:

I buy them for $3 a pack In January.

what brand?

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hoosierbass07 reply : 

 I own a few packs of Senkos but I'm not a hard core fan like I am Yum-Dingers.  I have to admit there might be something special about that Senko though considering Yamamoto doesn't seem to hype up his Senkos the way other companies hype their crankbaits and other lures.  Success should speak for itself and apparently there is something special about the Yamamoto Senko.   

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tcbass reply : 

  On 8/21/2015 at 2:20 AM, hoosierbass07 said:

 I own a few packs of Senkos but I'm not a hard core fan like I am Yum-Dingers.  I have to admit there might be something special about that Senko though considering Yamamoto doesn't seem to hype up his Senkos the way other companies hype their crankbaits and other lures.  Success should speak for itself and apparently there is something special about the Yamamoto Senko.   

 

 

Often imitated, never duplicated apparently.

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Scorchx1245 reply : 

  On 8/21/2015 at 1:36 AM, Choporoz said:

Do they only catch small fish for you?

I've caught 5s and minnows on a senko, perch, crappie, sunfish, and a turtle. It's just a numbers bait for me. Or last ditch haha.

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Maxximus Redneckus reply : 

They do work but im not a senko guru,i will buy them half price or lower but not 7$ a bag.i find them at yard sales often for 25 cents to 2$ a bag off course i grab them up.Matter of fact i found a shoe box full of the 3 inch ones i think it had 18 full bags for 5$

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atcoha reply : 

Will pick some up if I HAVE to have a certain color/size. If the yums/other brand is in stock with similar color/size, I go for the cheaper ones.

But will splurge on the senkos sometimes. All brands have worked pretty good for me. The yums last longer.

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Preytorien reply : 

I'd like to give the BioSpawn ExoStick XT. They claim its very durable, and the Cabela's that just opened near me has them. I'll probably try them sometime soon.

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Bluebasser86 reply : 

  On 8/21/2015 at 11:49 PM, Preytorien said:

I'd like to give the BioSpawn ExoStick XT. They claim its very durable, and the Cabela's that just opened near me has them. I'll probably try them sometime soon.

You won't be disappointed, they're an awesome bait and they are more durable than most sticks. 

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Comfortably Numb reply : 

I actually prefer a slightly stiffer stock bait. I find (wacky rigged) I can twitch/quiver it in place easier without it moving in much. That is more important to me then the wiggle on the fall.

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Darren. reply : 

  On 8/15/2015 at 9:44 AM, cgolf said:

I looked at the senko thread and this wasn't there. What I am curious is why do you buy senkos when alternatives are available that run a lot cheaper including the yum baits I just got for under 3 not on sale.

I will say I am guilty on the swim senko as I have a deep 3700 box filled with my go to colors. Since the new yum swimming dinger has a different tail design and doesn't come in smoke purple, I may be stuck with the swim senko fo a while. I just need to compare the side by side and see how they work.

Are these baits that much better, brand loyalty, the mystique of the bait? I just have a hard time plunking down that much cash for a one fish bait. 15 on a crank you catch 20-100 fish worth it, 80 cents to a buck a bait for hopefully one fish seems crazy to me.

Not trolling on this one, just curious, because people do buy them, they always have a big display in most shops.

 

While I do believe there is a difference in GYCB

Senkos vs. knock-offs, I no longer believe that

in order to catch more, bigger, better bass I have

to use them.

 

A year or two back I purposefully went out and

bought a bag of 4" BPS Stick-O worms and only

took that bag out with me for a day of fishing.

 

Boy was it a great day. Since then, I've come to

rely on Stick-Os of different colors, lengths and

keep catching plenty of bass.

 

But I still buy a bag of Senkos when they're on

sale in particular colors that I can't find in other

brands.

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cgolf reply : 

Part of me has always wondered why the price of the Senko hasn't come down with all the competition, but it seems that everyone is willing to pay the premium for the bait and Gary is laughing his way to the bank.

This thread kind of summed up for me though why he doesn't need to lower the prices.

It has just a sad trend to see bass bait prices rise pretty much across the board, not by a little bit either, while the economy has tanked.

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blckshirt98 reply : 

The "price per bait" of some of the "premium" brands is kind of ridiculous.  75 cents to $1 per plastic is nuts.  I think 25 cents is a nice sweet spot, and companies like Zoom, Yum, and Berkley's Havoc line will always be around to give us some solid plastics to use at a cheap price.

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tcbass reply : 

  On 8/23/2015 at 2:47 AM, cgolf said:

Part of me has always wondered why the price of the Senko hasn't come down with all the competition, but it seems that everyone is willing to pay the premium for the bait and Gary is laughing his way to the bank.

This thread kind of summed up for me though why he doesn't need to lower the prices.

It has just a sad trend to see bass bait prices rise pretty much across the board, not by a little bit either, while the economy has tanked.

Studies have shown that when the economy tanks people look to fishing to pass the time and not think about the negative like not having a job.

But you are keeping the fishing industry employees employed.

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Basspro3106 reply : 

I've tried looking for an alternative to gyb but they all fall short. they are the best.

 

Most guys say they only last one fish. but I make them last. I rig them thru the head and when I catch one I'll get one more fish on it. then I flip it over and rig it thru the tail. then when that's spent I wacky rig it bam baby.

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poisonokie reply : 

I only buy them on sale, but then that's how I aquire most of my bait and tackle. They do work, but really I like strike king cut-r-worms better. I think the best stick bait of all are Megabass Dot Crawlers, but if you think Senkos are expensive and not durable enough, don't even think about Dot Crawlers, even if they are on sale.

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The Patriot reply : 

After having fished with a few different styles of soft plastics and a handful of different brands.  I can comfortably say the name on the packaging doesnt tell the whole story.  I've fished a few different GYs and the only ones that have worked are the senkos and swimsenkos.  And I've only had luck with a couple different colors.  That said, I've caught more on green pumpkin Yums.  As long as I keep catching them, the swimsenkos are the only ones I'll spend extra on.  Theres times when Yums just arent getting bites.  I throw the swims on the hook and they bite!  

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cgolf reply : 

  On 8/26/2015 at 10:40 AM, The Patriot said:

After having fished with a few different styles of soft plastics and a handful of different brands.  I can comfortably say the name on the packaging doesnt tell the whole story.  I've fished a few different GYs and the only ones that have worked are the senkos and swimsenkos.  And I've only had luck with a couple different colors.  That said, I've caught more on green pumpkin Yums.  As long as I keep catching them, the swimsenkos are the only ones I'll spend extra on.  Theres times when Yums just arent getting bites.  I throw the swims on the hook and they bite!

The swim senko is an awesome bait, I got really lucky to find my favorite color being cleared out at a local shop. So far I have not seen a bait that is like it, the yum swim in dinger just seems different. Oddly the swim senko was pretty durable for me.

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Big Bait Fishing reply : 

i use 5'' stick baits but i wacky rig them 97% of the time , so Senko's are out . i use Big Bite Baits Trick Sticks in the 25 ct. pack , my favorite color is the '' Tilapia '' , great action and good mix of softness but still durable ...

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Preytorien reply : 

I like the Yamamoto senko and it works. But I use SK Shim-E Sticks and Dingers. I do notice some difference with the Yam's with some Megastrike slathered on. It's the bait I use when I can't buy a bite, but I don't use it exclusively. 

 

For those that speak of the durability (or lack thereof) of the Yamamoto Senkos.....a warning....don't use the SK Ocho's....those things are just slightly more durable than Play-Doh...they work, but man I get bluegills pecking them off the hook.

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tcbass reply : 

  On 8/26/2015 at 1:24 PM, pgersumky said:

i use 5'' stick baits but i wacky rig them 97% of the time , so Senko's are out . i use Big Bite Baits Trick Sticks in the 25 ct. pack , my favorite color is the '' Tilapia '' , great action and good mix of softness but still durable ...

Why are Senkos out if you wacky rig them?

I thought that was how the majority of folks use Senkos.

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Big Bait Fishing reply : 

  On 8/26/2015 at 11:50 PM, tcbass said:

Why are Senkos out if you wacky rig them?

I thought that was how the majority of folks use Senkos.

cause they fly right off on the cast !! the senko is way to soft , and i don't like the o-rings and other ways to rig them . i just use durable baits , i use an Owner 1/0 wacky hook .

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tcbass reply : 

  On 8/27/2015 at 12:45 AM, pgersumky said:

cause they fly right off on the cast !! the senko is way to soft , and i don't like the o-rings and other ways to rig them . i just use durable baits , i use an Owner 1/0 wacky hook .

 

 

Try this. I caught around 60 fish on my last Senko. They last way longer this way. A 4 day fishing trip and I went through 2 Senkos total.

 

 

Well, I finally found a solution and it is a cheap one. I didn't come up with the zip tie idea nor the vinyl tubing idea. "thebig1" is the one who showed me the tubing idea....and to give credit where it is due, I know someone else said something about it before in another thread. I've tried it on 5 trips now with other people also using it and it's worked extremely well. It's a combination of a 5" Senko, Gamakatsu 1/0 Offset Shank Worm EWG hook, and 1 small 1" inch piece of vinyl 3/8" inside diameter-1/2" outside diameter tubing (the kind you get at Menards or aquarium tubing). I've found that anything less a 1" inch piece of vinyl tubing doesn't seem to work nearly as well.

After making this thread the "thebig1" posted that vinyl tubing works better and that he's had the same Senko for 8-9 years. Well, I tried his method for 2 trips on my own and then a guys fishing weekend. We all used 5" Senko's with the vinyl tubing and worked even better than the method I had tried before with the zip ties. We caught 94 fish over the weekend, bass, northern, sunnies, rock bass, and perch and did not lose 1 Senko. I still have the Senko from that trip.

 

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Big Bait Fishing reply : 

  On 8/26/2015 at 11:50 PM, tcbass said:

Why are Senkos out if you wacky rig them?

I thought that was how the majority of folks use Senkos.

most people texas rig them, if they wacky rigged them the hook would rip out on the cast unless you used o- rings , zip ties , or the tubing mentioned . i don't like to do all that so i buy baits that work for me , most all other stick baits stay on the hook when you cast them ...

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ChrisD46 reply : 

  On 8/27/2015 at 2:44 AM, tcbass said:

Try this. I caught around 60 fish on my last Senko. They last way longer this way. A 4 day fishing trip and I went through 2 Senkos total.

 

 

Well, I finally found a solution and it is a cheap one. I didn't come up with the zip tie idea nor the vinyl tubing idea. "thebig1" is the one who showed me the tubing idea....and to give credit where it is due, I know someone else said something about it before in another thread. I've tried it on 5 trips now with other people also using it and it's worked extremely well. It's a combination of a 5" Senko, Gamakatsu 1/0 Offset Shank Worm EWG hook, and 1 small 1" inch piece of vinyl 3/8" inside diameter-1/2" outside diameter tubing (the kind you get at Menards or aquarium tubing). I've found that anything less a 1" inch piece of vinyl tubing doesn't seem to work nearly as well.

After making this thread the "thebig1" posted that vinyl tubing works better and that he's had the same Senko for 8-9 years. Well, I tried his method for 2 trips on my own and then a guys fishing weekend. We all used 5" Senko's with the vinyl tubing and worked even better than the method I had tried before with the zip ties. We caught 94 fish over the weekend, bass, northern, sunnies, rock bass, and perch and did not lose 1 Senko. I still have the Senko from that trip.

 

tcbass :

Do you use a small drill bit to drill through the tubing first so you don't roll / dull the hook point ?

If you are simply sliding the hook point in between the senko and the tubing (parallel to the hook point) - how is your hook up ratio ?

Any special tactics / tips to slide the tubing on the senko ?

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tcbass reply : 

  On 8/27/2015 at 6:05 PM, ChrisD46 said:

tcbass :

Do you use a small drill bit to drill through the tubing first so you don't roll / dull the hook point ?

If you are simply sliding the hook point in between the senko and the tubing (parallel to the hook point) - how is your hook up ratio ?

Any special tactics / tips to slide the tubing on the senko ?

I just slide the hook between the tubing and Senko.

Hook up ratio is great. No noticed difference.

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J Francho reply : 

If vinyl tube rolls or dull your hook point, you're using crummy hooks.

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Big Bait Fishing reply : 

  On 8/27/2015 at 10:38 PM, J Francho said:

If vinyl tube rolls or dull your hook point, you're using crummy hooks.

use a good hook like Owner Wacky hooks !!!

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SirSnookalot reply : 

If the higher priced spread catches more and better fish I don't see a reason to get cheap over a few buck, the intent is to catch fish.

I'm not a fan of those kinds of baits, hardly ever use them, they all work about the same for me, I have the same confidence with all of them.

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