I always look for cheaper alternatives when it comes to lures, especially soft plastics. I bought a mold in December and made a few trailers to try in spring. It proved to be the perfect substitute for the Rage Tail or Speed craw. Creme sells it on their site for $1.99 a bag plus many other soft plastics.
Here it's rigged on a 1/8 oz jig I caught bass and pickerel on in the last five days:
Once my usual trailers are used up, my craw will be the only action tail I'll use accept my frog copy:
The attached picture is of a Creme Craw.
Frank
That thing is no substitute for a Rage Craw. Glad you're saving money or whatever, though.
Generic baits have very little in common with Rage Tail soft plastics.
If some particular shape is all you care about why not make it out of
a discarded old tire? Then it's free!
I can't make a pronouncement that Sam's suggestion wouldn't be an acceptable substitute for a Rage Tail craw without more evidence. Either I would have to try it or I would have to hear from a number of people I trust who have tried it. Then I could make an informed statement of opinion.
Having said that, I love Rage Tail craws and have a lot of doubt that a substitute could be found so easily, considering the time and research that have gone into the plastic formulation and action of these baits. I never say never, though. I hope your craws serve you well, Sam, and I hope you report back on your results as you use them more.
I would never make a statement saying there is no substitute for Rage Tail, because that is not true. These are all tools of the trade we need to assist us in catching fish. How you use them is up to you. There are many guys on this site that hand pour or use plastic injection systems that make craws. I've used them and they work just as well if not better than Rage Tail. So what makes Rage Tail so special, just because they are a sponsor and we have to promote them to our last dying breath. C'mon guys there is no one perfect plastic and many other brands catch a lot of fish as well. I would like to see what the response here would be if Netbait became a sponsor as well. What would would everyone say then? Would we have Rage Tail, Paca Chunk wars?????Just my persoanl opinion, if you want to delete this post go ahead.
PS: With that kind of thinking since I own a Ranger than it's OK to make a general statement and say that there is no substitute for a Ranger boat?
Senkosam, I like that you think outside the box and are trying new things and exposing everyone to new ideas. Job well done and I commend you on your ingenuity on posting other plastic baits as well in other threads on this site.
Agreed, there are many companies that produce quality products, but
some stand above the crowd. GYCB comes to mind. Hudd, Mattlures.
Keitech, Huddbaits, MegaStrike, Roboworm, Mizmo, Larew and YUM.
Obviously there are many more that are someone's favorite and perhaps
some of the custom pours reach this level, but they are the exception,
not the rule.
Wow, it's RageTail or go home on this site, taking support your sponsors to the extreme.
Strike King doesn't developed a lures on there own, they notch off and mass produce someone else's designs and have for decades.
Yamamoto's twin tail grub is as good as any soft plastic jig trailer and has caught a lot more bass than other
Trailers in this category.
Tinkering with different lures is a big part of bass fishing, use your imagination and don't get into the heard mentality.
Tom
I always look for cheaper alternatives when it comes to lures, especially soft plastics. I bought a mold in December and made a few trailers to try in spring. It proved to be the perfect substitute for the Rage Tail or Speed craw. Creme sells it on their site for $1.99 a bag plus many other soft plastics.
SENCOSAM, WHERE DID YOU PURCHASE THE MOLD FOR THE CRAWS? I WOULD LIKE TO GET THAT MOLD FOR MYSELF.
Very nice looking jig you have your craw on, did you make the jig also?
I've purchased some of those craws on Ebay from several different sellers. The claws have excellent action similar to a YUM Craw Papi or a Netbait Paca Craw.The claws flap like crazy.While not exactly a Rage Craw, the action I believe is comparable.
I have fished this trailer and replaced all my rage craws with them. These craws are crazy good and extremely cost efficient. I agree Rage is one of the best in the business but you can't buy the rage products in bulk (huge disadvantage). I too have bought these from folks on Ebay. Oh, another advantage is the ability to have custom colors to match your favorite jigs. Here are some of my custom craw colors .....
Would be nice to see an underwater video comparing the action side by side to see which is more "alive".
They look good to me and as long as they catch fish then save the extra cash.
That is the 702 craw mold from Basstackle. It is one of if not the best action craws you can get.
The bulbous tips act like a paddletail swimbait as opposed to the patented ridges on the Rage products
Rage Craw also is excellent and right up there in my experience.
I like and use the Rage Craws but prefer the Yum Crawbug as a trailer.
I also like and take the advice of specific people on this site since I value their opinions over others; again who's to say what's right and what's wrong.
I do not like to get contradictory advice about certain brands or products, which is where the archived search comes in.
Site sponsors don't necessarily have a better or worse product than what's on the market, and I like to support them when I can.
Rage Tail, Northstar, Siebert, Seagaur and DVT have all seen money from this guy in the last 2 months, and unfortunately, so have many other companies.
I think a big part of why there is so much support for Ragetail baits is that not only does their inventor use them EXCLUSIVELY, but he is always looking to improve what is already there, making the best baits possible, AND take the time to teach us all how to best use them. Spend 20 minutes on the phone with Mr. Parks, and you'll get what I mean. It's this kind of support that brings about loyalty. It's not brand bashing, it's loyalty. Maybe Creme can come on here, sponsor the site, and put forth the effort Steve does to educate us about his unique baits. Or they can pump out copies of other successful designs for less money. There's room in the market for both.
I'm cool that Frank found something that works for him, and saves him money. While they don't look to be an improvement over the Rage Craw, they look like a reasonable facsimile. I don't see the color 'Bama Craw, though, and that's a deal breaker for me.
Wow!!! Thanks for all the support and relevant opinions!!!
QuoteWhile they don't look to be an improvement over the Rage Craw, they look like a reasonable facsimile.
They are not a reasonable facsimile. They are unique in tail action and so far have helped me catch over ten bass and many pickerel either swimming the lure or jigging in 15'. Brand loyalty is fine until someone or other company can produce a lure that is uniquely better, the same and/or cheaper. The companies mentioned produce great baits, but now with companies like Basstackle owned by a great guy named Bob I've been doing business for years (who produced the laser cut craw mold), the hobby of lure creation and design is no longer limited to those with the means to mass produce and protect with design patents.
Unless I've actually tried a bait, I can't make an informed comment of its usefulness or characteristics, negative or positive nor comparisons. I don't promote companies nor sell baits so I have no reason to hype something I didn't strongly feel could blow away fellow bass anglers hungry for information that another had discovered and was blown away by successes.
Thanks again for keeping an open mind. It's what make the sport interesting and challenging and for independent thinkers, extremely satisfying.
Frank
(Someone asked if I make my own jigs. I don't and buy them without skirts online. I add skirts from a site that is exceptional in color choices, price and service - bar none. Sadly of the many colors I've purchased (around 50), I still gravitate to using only a few that always work.)
Keep up the creativity, Senkosam. Fish don't care what brand it is. If they eat it, then by all means, use it! I, for one, and probably the only one, have never purchased any Rage Tail product and have no problem catching fish.
I like custom baits much better than mass produced baits. that being said they are usually much more expensive. but if it is a hobby for the wintertime then i guess it is worth it. I take a lot of pride when one of my custom crankbaits produces a nice fish. That being said rage tail products are among the best soft plastics on the market, but they like all lures have specific situations where they really shine, so using them exclusively may not be the best way to go. maybe if they made a rage senko lol...
Mitch
On 5/1/2013 at 10:10 PM, WRB said:Wow, it's RageTail or go home on this site, taking support your sponsors to the extreme.
Strike King doesn't developed a lures on there own, they notch off and mass produce someone else's designs and have for decades.
Yamamoto's twin tail grub is as good as any soft plastic jig trailer and has caught a lot more bass than other
Trailers in this category.
Tinkering with different lures is a big part of bass fishing, use your imagination and don't get into the heard mentality.
Tom
Here is my opinion on the whole pro Strike King on this board.
When I first joined last year, it was Strike King or go home. Everything else was not worth your coin, was what I took from it. I tried several other products and would not purchase anything Strike King because of the general crappy attitude towards other brands here.
That was last year. I decided to buy a few SK products. I was very impressed with it all. Then I came across several threads by Big O, who is Steve Parks, one of the lead designers from SK. The guy is on here all the time. Answering questions, helping people out and giving his opinions. He talks to you like a friend, not a know it all jerk, like some big names I've talked with.
Then came the first time I had an issue with one of their products about 8 months ago. One call to Mark Copley and the problem was fixed super fast. Mark talked to me like a friend not a customer. He didn't bend over backwards and kiss my butt, but rather treated me like a friend. That goes a long way with me.
Fast forward to last month. Another small issue with a crank bait. The way I was treated by Steve and Mark was great again.
I have the same type of deal with North Star Custom Baits. Both Chris and Vinny have helped me time and time again with questions and help. Chris has treated me like hes known me for years.
I work in Customer Service. Have so all my life. Being treated like I treat people will go miles with me and that tends to bring people to absolute loyalty. I will never buy another jig in my life that doesn't come from North Star. Are there better jigs out there, maybe, but for me, its different. Same goes for SK. If they make what I want, I will never go with anyone else.
I have been looking for a alternative to the mighty bug for fishing river smallies. I use the mighty bug because the bream eat the claws off all other craw baits ( including Rage tail) and the thicker claws of the mighty bug are the only ones that will stand up to them.
In your opinion how do you think the claws of these would do? I like the thicker ends but my question concerns the actual junction to the body.
Also it doesn't give a size . How long are they?
I prefer Reaction Innovations,
As far as durability, I caught two nice size pike and two bass today on the same jig and trailer.
The craw is about 3.5" long but two other size molds are also sold - one larger, one smaller.
Earlier this week II started using a 1/4 oz. jig with silicone skirt and then changed to a 3/8 jig with round rubber I tied on this morning. The flare and bulk of the rubber skirt didn't affect the tail action at all and I prefer it to the black silicone which doesn't have much action like other silicone colors and patterns. Too soft I think.
Zoom Speed Craw is another I highly recommend. Haven't had any experience using my Paca Craws as trailers.
Anyone?
IMHO, the name on the package is of less importance than going through the learning curve necessary with any new bait to gain a true confidence in that bait. I find that if I truly have confidence in a bait, I’ll spend more time with it and learn how to best work the tool in multiple situations. If I can’t tell a marked difference in the look and feel of the bait, hard or soft, I’ll call them the same; and the next test is price.
Just MHO....
I think the record shows that when it comes to inexpensive alternatives in tackle choices I am an advocate. I also understand that inexpensive is not always good value. We all make value judgments based on income, personality, experience, testosterone levels, whatever. For some of us there is great satisfaction in saving a buck, especially if a little creativity is involved. For others the thought of using a cheaper substitute for a proven product is silly with fishing time such a very limited resource. I think Big-O has earned respect and if some are loyal beyond what others like that's OK with me. I have given RW and others grief about their unwavering loyalty to some products but I respect their reasons and commitment. Independent thinking shows itself in many ways. Senkosam whether your craw is a perfect substitute for anything or not, if it works for you, enjoy.
i tried rage trailers once. they are the worst as far as durability is concerned. caught some fish on them, but i cant say they are better than any of the other trailers i have used (netbait paca chunk and craw)
senkosam, what type of jig is that in the first pic?
On 5/3/2013 at 7:44 AM, K_Mac said:Senkosam whether your craw is a perfect substitute for anything or not, if it works for you, enjoy.
I do understand brand loyalty and probably practice It as much as anyone. I think the above states it best though, If It works for you and you have confidence in that particular bait/trailer/hook, etc., then It really doesn't matter If there's a negative opinion about it.
I just purchased these exact craws from an Ebay seller. The claw action is awesome. No it's not a rage tail but when a 5pk is only $4 it's hard to beat them.
On 5/3/2013 at 9:15 AM, rippin-lips said:I just purchased these exact craws from an Ebay seller. The claw action is awesome. No it's not a rage tail but when a 5pk is only $4 it's hard to beat them.
How is this a better deal that a 7 pack of Rage Craws for 4.99
Oops I hit the wrong key. I guess I should proof read first. I meant 6pk and at my local shop rage craws are $6.50 + tax for a 7pk.
Here's the thing, as much as I love, and fish, the Lobster, Craw, and Baby, they just don't work for me in every situation. Regardless of how loyal I am to them, I also fish the Critter Craw, Craw Papi, and a handful of others including the Creme craw.
One of the primary reasons I fish the Rage Tail baits is the fact that Big-O is as active as he is here. It's tough to find that dedication and experience anymore, even in an industry that relies heavily on that standard of information. I will tell you, as well, the vast majority of my trailers are rage tail baits because of how effective they are. I don't care how many I go through. If it means I catch one more fish in a day, then it's worth it.
The title, after all, calls the bait an alternative. It does not say a replacement for. Lik
I make these exact craws as well. They are compareable to the rage craw without a doubt but the action is slightly different but still very intense.
WRB and cadman - props guys. y'all said a mouthful.
SENKOSAM - congrats on discovering a great bait. no disagreement here. i think it's every bit as good as ragetail or zoom. welcome to the ever-growing fraternity of cost concious anglers on this board who think for themselves, rise above the propaganda and hype, refuse to be sheep, and catch just as many fish for less money.
to the guys on the board that post so favorably about ragetail because you get free baits (yes it happens) - your bought and paid for opinions are irrelevant to a lot of the members on here. it's easy to spot you, gushing and cooing about the baits at seemingly every opportunity trying to influence other members to spend their hard earned coin on baits you are getting for free.
to the guys who choose to BUY ragetail, zoom, or whatever because you like it and believe in it, that's cool. i hope you catch a ton of fish on them. what you are willing to pay to enjoy the sport you love is your business. have fun.
bottom line, fish what you want and be happy.
I tried to do a quick in tank video but it turned comical pretty quick. Take it for what you will I guess. Either way these cheaper altenatives have some good action.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhAQ0SOmvmo
On 5/4/2013 at 7:09 AM, dr. reelgood said:WRB and cadman - props guys. y'all said a mouthful.
SENKOSAM - congrats on discovering a great bait. no disagreement here. i think it's every bit as good as ragetail or zoom. welcome to the ever-growing fraternity of cost concious anglers on this board who think for themselves, rise above the propaganda and hype, refuse to be sheep, and catch just as many fish for less money.
to the guys on the board that post so favorably about ragetail because you get free baits (yes it happens) - your bought and paid for opinions are irrelevant to a lot of the members on here. it's easy to spot you, gushing and cooing about the baits at seemingly every opportunity trying to influence other members to spend their hard earned coin on baits you are getting for free.
to the guys who choose to BUY ragetail, zoom, or whatever because you like it and believe in it, that's cool. i hope you catch a ton of fish on them. what you are willing to pay to enjoy the sport you love is your business. have fun.
bottom line, fish what you want and be happy.
I'll chime in as guy who does not get any free baits from Strike King or any one else for that matter. Just about any soft plastic on the market will catch fish especially when they are aggressive, that said after trying different jig trailers I settled on about 1/2 dozen different type of trailers depending on the action I am looking for from the trailer. I try to use only baits that are the consistently more productive or seem to have a little something extra over the competition and the Rage Chunk to me is one of those products based on my experience.
My previous go to trailer for a flapping action was the Paca Chunk which is a very good bait. I was reluctant to try the Rage because I thought I had no reason to but after hearing reports from anglers that I respect along with the positive reports from this website I decided to try it. What I like about it over the Paca is it seems to produce more vibration and though the Paca catches a lot of fish I seem to catch more with the Rage especially is stained water. I do carry a couple of bags of Paca for certain colors like Smoke Purple that Rage does not offer but for the most part the Rage Craw is my go to for this bait style.
I also use a few other trailers as well such as Power Team Craw D'oeurve, Xcite Raptor Craw Junior, Yamamoto single & doubletail grubs depending on type of jig and what I am doing with jig.
One bait style that has many challengers but in my opinion no equal in it's category is the Yamamoto Senko, to me this bait is the most consistent when I need a stickworm so I rarely use anything else.
I realize that there are going to be a variety of opinions on this subject, the great thing is we have a lot to choose from. Use what you are confident in.
I would put my Netbait Paca Craws up against a Rage any day!!! I think there are baits out there that are not a big name that are just as good as the big dogs.And in todays market it is all about the money. So if a guy finds a bait that has the same action for less money then good for him!!!
In the interest of full disclosure, I did once receive free baits from a site member! Roadwarrior sent me a good size box of baits, mostly Netbait Pacas that he no longer used. I neither know nor care whether free baits are made available to members by sponsors. If a moderator promotes a sponsor I am good with that. I won't question his integrity because he does so. We trust and respect the opinions and people here based on our history. Having a strong opinion about anything will often bring a person criticism. It just keeps things interesting IMO.
On 5/3/2013 at 7:07 AM, SENKOSAM said:Haven't had any experience using my Paca Craws as trailers.Anyone?
I use the paca chunk sr. as jig trailers almost exclusively and I love them. I did just get some free rage craws that I will be trying...
more great low budget trailers and all of these receive favorable reviews on other sites - all under 4 bucks per pack
bass assassin pur craw - 2.99 10 pack (about .30 per bait)
havoc craw fatty - 299 8 pack (about .37 per bait)
big bite limited edition swimming craw (paca clone) - 1.48 5 pack (about .30 per bait)
bruiser baits crazy craw - 3.89 8 pack (about .49 per bait)
new netbait paca punch - 3.49 8 pack (about .44 per bait)
Xcite raptot tail junior - 3.59 6 pack (about .60 per bait)
zman flappin' craws - 3.99 6 pack (about .67 per bait)
berkley chigger craws - 3.49 7 pack (about .50 per bait)
but i still think best bang for the buck award goes to the bait the original poster suggested. what's even better is that these creme baits suggested by SENKOSAM are now showing up in some wal-mart stores for 1.96 per 6 pack.
but i still think where and when you fish a jig are bigger keys to success than what you put on the back of it. our dads and granddads (and some of us today) caught tons of fish on pork frog trailers - chunks of pig skin and fat that look incredibly crude by today's standards. these still work too by the way.
Hey, Paul, since those snide comments are directed at me, anytime you want to put down the live bait, and get off those beds in those managed ponds, and go head to head, I'll show you what's up with my free or paid for Rage Tail baits. Jealousy won't get you anywhere. The fact remains, that Rage Tails have the best action of any plastics on the market... period. Whether you want to admit it or not.
What this really boils down to is that everyone has their own color and brand preferences. Each brand has its own specific traits and are not exact copies of each other. The senko has been copied by everyone and each brand is a bit different. Do those differences matter? Sometimes they do, and sometimes they don't. Just like very slight differences in color matter (sometimes).
If you like the brand and color that you fish then fish it. If you want to spend the money on name brand stuff then do it. But, if you're going to argue about it then realize that you're going to just look silly.
What you should be talking about is when to use a high action trailer vs a low action trailer or when to use a big trailer vs a smaller one. Arguing about a rage chunk vs a paca chunk is like arguing about watermelon with black flake vs watermelon candy.
now, now shane. simmer down. no one has personally attacked you so there's no need to personally attack anyone else. this is not a contest or a challenge. the title of the thread says, this is about alternatives. it's always so refreshing to see someone with such supreme self confidence and positive self esteem on here. me, not so much. i am an average fisherman at best and i learn things every time i hit the water. you are obviously a great fisherman. much better than me. infinitely better than me. i idon't care which baits are better and i don't care which one of us is better. fish how you want and can afford and so will i. i get to use what i want to fish with and so do you. ragetails are great baits. i have caught a bunch of big fish on them. it's not the product that i have issue with, it's the price. peace man. so much drama over baits. wow.
"trailer wars" 2013 coming soon to a forum near you.
"so much drama over baits. wow."
Exactly what I was thinking ... these are only jig trailers were discussing right? Yikes!
Here's what I've found.....Chigger Craws, Yum Craws, Net Bait, and most other "claw" dominate baits......and I have quite a few..."flap" their claws in an alernating action, i.e., one after the other. The Rage Craws 'swim', 'flap', 'roll', whatever you want to call it....but they do it together at once.....main difference.
Now is this a bad diffrence? No. Each style has it's place. I personally prefer the alternating flap under most circumstances for my jig trailers, Rage Craws when the fish are really active during what we call here in OKla. warm water....hot for most of the rest of you. Rage Craws are awesome rigged tex-rigged alone. I've posted here before about all the different ways they can be fished this way......swim on top, swim sub-surface, hop, drag, etc. But for a jig trailer I prefer the alernating "flap" action.
No need to give up using Rage Tails since I can copy them in colors I chose anytime and make the craw attachments more durable by over-pouring a bit.
QuoteHere's what I've found.....Chigger Craws, Yum Craws, Net Bait, and most other "claw" dominate baits......and I have quite a few..."flap" their claws in an alernating action, i.e., one after the other. The Rage Craws 'swim', 'flap', 'roll', whatever you want to call it....but they do it together at once.....main difference.
Now is this a bad diffrence? No. Each style has it's place. I personally prefer the alternating flap under most circumstances for my jig trailers,
Good point, well said! There are subtle differences in trailer tail actions and like most similar type lures, discriminating anglers have to feel something is appropriate, individually and with bias. Cost is a factor when unit cost is beyond the unique value of something - such as the Rage Tail - and I personally do not chose to pay triple for something I could make myself or find a reasonable or better substitute costing less.
(BTW the jighead I used and added a skirt to was from Lurecraft. I wouldn't suggest buying them because the bristles fall out after a few trips. I buy most of my jigs from http://www.tourneyjigs.com/ and add skirts bought from fishingskirts.com.)
Frank
On 5/2/2013 at 3:30 AM, J Francho said:I think a big part of why there is so much support for Ragetail baits is that not only does their inventor use them EXCLUSIVELY, but he is always looking to improve what is already there, making the best baits possible, AND take the time to teach us all how to best use them. Spend 20 minutes on the phone with Mr. Parks, and you'll get what I mean. It's this kind of support that brings about loyalty. It's not brand bashing, it's loyalty. Maybe Creme can come on here, sponsor the site, and put forth the effort Steve does to educate us about his unique baits. Or they can pump out copies of other successful designs for less money. There's room in the market for both.
I'm cool that Frank found something that works for him, and saves him money. While they don't look to be an improvement over the Rage Craw, they look like a reasonable facsimile. I don't see the color 'Bama Craw, though, and that's a deal breaker for me.
thought I was the only bama craw bandwaggoner.
Ultimate color IMO!!!
Here is a vid I made of the action of the Basstackle 702 craw. This is only a 1/8 oz jighead.
On 5/6/2013 at 7:14 AM, SENKOSAM said:No need to give up using Rage Tails since I can copy them in colors I chose anytime and make the craw attachments more durable by over-pouring a bit.
Good point, well said! There are subtle differences in trailer tail actions and like most similar type lures, discriminating anglers have to feel something is appropriate, individually and with bias. Cost is a factor when unit cost is beyond the unique value of something - such as the Rage Tail - and I personally do not chose to pay triple for something I could make myself or find a reasonable or better substitute costing less.
(BTW the jighead I used and added a skirt to was from Lurecraft. I wouldn't suggest buying them because the bristles fall out after a few trips. I buy most of my jigs from http://www.tourneyjigs.com/ and add skirts bought from fishingskirts.com.)
Frank
So you know those craws infringe on strike Kings patent. Even if they are for personal use it is still illegal.
On 5/6/2013 at 7:14 AM, SENKOSAM said:No need to give up using Rage Tails since I can copy them in colors I chose anytime and make the craw attachments more durable by over-pouring a bit.
Good point, well said! There are subtle differences in trailer tail actions and like most similar type lures, discriminating anglers have to feel something is appropriate, individually and with bias. Cost is a factor when unit cost is beyond the unique value of something - such as the Rage Tail - and I personally do not chose to pay triple for something I could make myself or find a reasonable or better substitute costing less.
(BTW the jighead I used and added a skirt to was from Lurecraft. I wouldn't suggest buying them because the bristles fall out after a few trips. I buy most of my jigs from http://www.tourneyjigs.com/ and add skirts bought from fishingskirts.com.)
Frank
So all your whining and complaining at the other forum about the mods here and the members here, and now you go and make a trailer that looks just like a Rage Craw?
Your a BR writer too. Wonder if people knew about all the trash talking you did about this place, how'd they really feel.
Every soft plastic bait on the market today will catch fish. Read any reviews on *** the only negatives you'll ever see is someone complaining about 'durability' including the SK Rage Craws. It's all personal preference and confidence. There's a time and place for every bait, sometimes they want more action in the trailer and other times less action. I'm glad you've found a cheaper alternative.
I have no reason to copy or use the Rage Tail again now that I found the Basstackle 702 mold. Sometimes I copy something just to copy it (not sell it) for the challenge. In fact, I will alternate between the 702 design and Zoom Speed Craw for extreme tail action trailers.
That video was cool! Thanks.
All of the comments on this topic should be a wake up call that opinions matter positive and negative, especially the informative ones and that anglers stop visiting a site when it's only one sided. Glenn designed a well thought out site with a tremendous amount of information for anglers at all experience levels and he approached me to write a few articles years ago. I was glad to do so for the sake of sharing, the same reason I post in the forums. Any trashing concerns the individuals who haven't graduated grade school, chose to trash ideas not their own or that don't respect the truth or other opinions, which tends to lower site credibility.
Frank
On 5/13/2013 at 6:59 PM, SENKOSAM said:I have no reason to copy or use the Rage Tail again now that I found the Basstackle 702 mold. Sometimes I copy something just to copy it (not sell it) for the challenge. In fact, I will alternate between the 702 design and Zoom Speed Craw for extreme tail action trailers.
That video was cool! Thanks.
All of the comments on this topic should be a wake up call that opinions matter positive and negative, especially the informative ones and that anglers stop visiting a site when it's only one sided. Glenn designed a well thought out site with a tremendous amount of information for anglers at all experience levels and he approached me to write a few articles years ago. I was glad to do so for the sake of sharing, the same reason I post in the forums. Any trashing concerns the clowns who haven't graduated grade school, chose to trash ideas not their own and that don't respect the truth or other opinions, which tends to lower the individuals' and site credibility.
Frank
Well that clears it up..very mature, trashing "clowns".
On 5/13/2013 at 6:59 PM, SENKOSAM said:I have no reason to copy or use the Rage Tail again now that I found the Basstackle 702 mold. Sometimes I copy something just to copy it (not sell it) for the challenge. In fact, I will alternate between the 702 design and Zoom Speed Craw for extreme tail action trailers.
That video was cool! Thanks.
All of the comments on this topic should be a wake up call that opinions matter positive and negative, especially the informative ones and that anglers stop visiting a site when it's only one sided. Glenn designed a well thought out site with a tremendous amount of information for anglers at all experience levels and he approached me to write a few articles years ago. I was glad to do so for the sake of sharing, the same reason I post in the forums. Any trashing concerns the clowns who haven't graduated grade school, chose to trash ideas not their own and that don't respect the truth or other opinions, which tends to lower the individuals' and site credibility.
Frank
No one question's Rock's credibility. He's one of the best members this site has.
Sam,
You got ticked cause you said you made something that was a viable option for the rage tail line of craws and people jumped on your case that's its not a replacement for everyone. Your feelings got hurt and you ran to another forum and started a 3 page thread that was basically one panty in a wad after another. No big deal. Childish as it was, everyone deserves their time on the perverbial soap box. Hell I even said some of the comments were ridiculous.
I you want a pat on the back, I stopped getting those when I graduated kindergarten! Great fantastic you made something that works wonders! There, it's your 15 minutes of fame brother. God knows you need it!
Back peddle engaged!
Wow, that's some reply! Keep them coming! This site needs more people like you and another reason not to post here.
On 5/14/2013 at 12:15 AM, SENKOSAM said:Wow, that's some reply! Keep them coming! This site needs more people like you and another reason not to post here.
Because I called you out for being two faced?
If this place is so bad man, why are you still here?
I knew when this thread reappeared it was not a good thing. I like the exchange of ideas here and have no reason to go to another fishing site. There certainly is no reason to talk trash about this site or individuals on this site elsewhere.
Frank you are insulted that not everyone embraces your thoughts on the new bait as enthusiastically as you think we should, and you suggest that those who don't lack understanding or integrity. Do you really think that adds any value?
LOL, I thought swimbaits were where all the drama was.....
It's fishing folks. It's supposed to be fun. How and why people feel the need to put down others over fishing lures is beyond me....and to even carry it forth to another forum? Really?
Unbelievable.
We're done here.