Why No Lews At Bps 2024
OkeechobeeAngler reply :
According to a guy at my local BPS, a big wig who used to work for BPS had a falling out with BPS. Said person now works for Lews, so BPS said no go to selling Lews.
Any truth to this ? I was curious because the local shops both here in Fl and in Sc sell more Lews than other reels.
I know its due to them being new etc. Sales will drop when the next big thing comes out.
Goose52 reply :
The owner/honcho of the re-born Lew's company is Lynn Reeves. Lynn was formerly a buyer at BPS and is also a friend of the Childre family (Lew Childre being the founder of the original "Lew"s" brand). Lynn, given his background at BPS, and having knowledge of how to have product manufactured by off-shore OEMs, along with access to the Lew's trademarks via his relationship with the Childre family - restarted the Lew's brand. If you visit the Lew's website - they have all this history on a web page. I did notice that they no longer mention Lynn's former relationship with BPS on the history web pages.
As to why BPS won't carry the Lew's products, I can't say...........
0119 reply :
Maybe with all the house brand and Revo reels that simply come out of a different backdoor of the same factory, there isnt much interest in putting more of the same old stuff on the shelf.
Hooligan reply :
Lynn burned some bridges with BPS when he left. That's all it boils down to, really.
Brian Needham reply :
Lews seems to be doing just fine without BPS........ internet sales is where it is out now, and BPS is not very good at the internets anyway.
Alonerankin2 reply :
Seems to me BPS is burning bridges with the fisherman
HomersTomaco reply :
I'm guessing it probably had to do with that guy that runs Lews... Who used to design the BPS reels... Who left BPS to run Lews... Then all the Lews reels came out and are almost identical to the BPS reels but for a lot more money for the same thing... If I was a betting man I bet that's part of it.
*Hootie reply :
On 2/15/2014 at 11:51 PM, HomersTomaco said:I'm guessing it probably had to do with that guy that runs Lews... Who used to design the BPS reels... Who left BPS to run Lews... Then all the Lews reels came out and are almost identical to the BPS reels but for a lot more money for the same thing... If I was a betting man I bet that's part of it.
You would lose.
Hootie
Dramer77 reply :
On 2/15/2014 at 11:51 PM, HomersTomaco said:I'm guessing it probably had to do with that guy that runs Lews... Who used to design the BPS reels... Who left BPS to run Lews... Then all the Lews reels came out and are almost identical to the BPS reels but for a lot more money for the same thing... If I was a betting man I bet that's part of it.
Yea that's not quite it, he worked for bps but not In that sense .... The bps reel are kinda similar in way but they're not as good as the lews reels
Ohio Dave reply :
I heard directly from a bps manager the exact same story. and Lews are a full step ahead of bps brand reals in my opinion
Basswhippa reply :
They do have Lews. It is BP brand and Revos.
Basswhippa reply :
Same junk. Different badge. Get yourself a Shimano and quit worrying about it. That is all.
*Hootie reply :
Nice guy, right there.
Hootie
iabass8 reply :
On 2/16/2014 at 4:23 AM, Basswhippa said:They do have Lews. It is BP brand and Revos.
On 2/16/2014 at 4:24 AM, Basswhippa said:Same junk. Different badge. Get yourself a Shimano and quit worrying about it. That is all.
rippin-lips reply :
hahaha that's a good gif.
I will say I'd take a Lews TP over a curado 50e any day. It's just as light,longer handle,metal drag star,better looking and functions just as well.
Basswhippa reply :
On 2/16/2014 at 4:35 AM, hootiebenji said:Nice guy, right there.
Hootie
Thank Hootie. If we looked at the thousands if not millions of helpful educational posts on this forum what I stated is probably in the Top 10 Most Helpful of All Time in terms of helping folks become better fisherman. Thanks again. I try.
tomustang reply :
On 2/16/2014 at 5:06 AM, rippin-lips said:hahaha that's a good gif.
I will say I'd take a Lews TP over a curado 50e any day. It's just as light,longer handle,metal drag star,better looking and functions just as well.
Yeah we get it, you don't like shimanos. You think they are hype.
Let's get back on topic instead of pitting two different reels against each other and saying your personal preference is better.
HomersTomaco reply :
Seems like a lot of people haven't taken both apart... They are nearly identical. They aren't better quality, they just have better marketing.
That used to be about the same as the older revos before the gen3 and older pfluegers before this years new ones. They are both a bit different now.
NorcalBassin reply :
On 2/16/2014 at 5:06 AM, rippin-lips said:I will say I'd take a Lews TP over a curado 50e any day. It's just as light,longer handle,metal drag star,better looking and functions just as well.
Looking at your jersey I'm guessing you'd take a Powell Max over an NRX any day as well? Just playin... couldn't resist.
rippin-lips reply :
On 2/16/2014 at 8:54 AM, NorcalBassin said:Looking at your jersey I'm guessing you'd take a Powell Max over an NRX any day as well? Just playin... couldn't resist.
No way! Now an endurance maybe. Just kidding.
It's all good man. I don't get my feelings hurt over the internet like a lot of these people do.
Hooligan reply :
I'm not going to dig deep in the preference thing, versus materials and construction and engineering but, the way you often state you're looking for the metal drag star- why? What difference does that make?On 2/16/2014 at 5:06 AM, rippin-lips said:hahaha that's a good gif.
I will say I'd take a Lews TP over a curado 50e any day. It's just as light,longer handle,metal drag star,better looking and functions just as well.
There are so many upper end reels that use material other than aluminum for the star, I'm curious as to why you think it makes any difference?
I know why it couldn't be any less a concern to me, but your insistence baffles me.
The Rooster reply :
I'm not picking any sides but I just want to say I used to think a metal drag star was a must but after thinking about it i realized it doesn't even come into play except for adjusting the drag and it only ever sees finger pressure, nothing strenuous at all. The parts that hold the drag pressure itself are metal below the plastic/graphite star itself. Now there might be an argument to be made for dropping the reel and having something snap off but damage occurring from that would be as likely to cause a metal star to bend as a plastic one to break.
I think a metal star is just for looks. I know bling can help sell a reel, and if I ever start seeing metal stars on cheap reels then I'll know the manufacturers have figured out another way to dazzle would be buyers in stores like they have with high bearing counts. However, don't misunderstand that last comment, because I'm in the bearing club.
And all this said, I still like metal drag stars best but I definitely would not let it influence my buying decision anymore.
bflp3 reply :
Interesting point Rooster. It is kind of just bling, I wonder if some of these companies have cheapened other parts of the reel in order to provide a metal drag star at a certain price point because they know the bling helps move reels.
SudburyBasser reply :
On 2/12/2014 at 11:13 AM, Brian Needham said:internet sales is where it is out now, and BPS is not very good at the internets anyway.
Eh? Their internet strategy seems to be working just fine. Could it be executed better? Sure, but not everyone can be Amazon.
iabass8 reply :
On 2/17/2014 at 2:13 AM, SudburyBasser said:Eh? Their internet strategy seems to be working just fine. Could it be executed better? Sure, but not everyone can be Amazon.
.....bps doesnt have internet sales like tw,btd etc. thats what he is referring to.
SudburyBasser reply :
On 2/17/2014 at 2:54 AM, iabass8 said:.....bps doesnt have internet sales like tw,btd etc. thats what he is referring to.
I did not know that and I would have thought otherwise. Given their pre-eminence and name recognition in the fishing space I would have thought otherwise.
Capt.Bob reply :
Over three years now since parting with the Shimano Baitcasters I was heavily invested in the past 20 years. I am happier today with my Lews, all 6 models and all 11 of them, I consider it an upgrade. I will also say just because some think the reels are similar to Revos and BPS reels and that makes them the same,,,,,they don't have much experience with theese reels. They are everything I wanted my Shimanos to be, and much better than the other 2 brands!!!!! That is like saying a Lew's Tournament is the same as a Team Lew's Pro or Team Gold, or because both are mag control only the Tornament MG is the same as the Super Duty,,,,, 
There is a big defference guy's. 
rippin-lips reply :
Shhh Capt.Bob,the shimano sheriff might get you.
Brian Needham reply :
On 2/17/2014 at 2:13 AM, SudburyBasser said:Eh? Their internet strategy seems to be working just fine. Could it be executed better? Sure, but not everyone can be Amazon.
their prices are higher, and their shipping is HORRIBLE, and shipping cost is bad too.
that said, I am sure they do fine for themselves, but they do not rely on internet sales which I think they are missing a huge profit score by not doing so.
They rely on brand recognition, and people thinking they are "the best" which they are not, IMO. everyone starts at BPS, then quickly learns other places to shop, at least that was my progression.
Don't take me wrong though Sudbury, I am not calling you wrong at all.
Hooligan reply :
I tend to agree with you Brian. BPS has, for several years now, really tried to push the internet business as much as possible. Remember days of old when they had color listings for all the baits? Remember last years catalog that had "for more available colors, go to www....?" They tried to push people to the internet to make those orders, rather than through the catalog. The process was a failure. Not to mention that if you try to access the website with IE, Firefox, and Chrome, it's almost a guarantee that it won't load. The design, as well, is terrible. There's no effective way to make a comparison on three rods, let's say, without either opening three windows, or having to go back and forth through three links or more.
bflp3 reply :
Really? I never have loading problems with the BPS site. I always have loading problems with the TW site on the other hand. I will say trying to use the regular BPS site is pretty rough on mobile. The page keeps scrolling back to the top when you try to look at stuff on the bottom of the page.On 2/17/2014 at 12:36 PM, Hooligan said:Not to mention that if you try to access the website with IE, Firefox, and Chrome, it's almost a guarantee that it won't load. The design, as well, is terrible.
Hooligan reply :
On 2/17/2014 at 10:54 AM, rippin-lips said:Shhh Capt.Bob,the shimano sheriff might get you.
Shimano Sherriff notwihstanding, at least the good captain is able to finitely, and capably explain why it is that he prefers one over the other, and does so without being critical of others choices. Which, when it all boils down to it, is choices. There are reasons that I can't stand some Lew's reels, and love some of the others. The same goes for Daiwa, even Shimano- though according to one particular post I'm nothing but a Shimano Fanboy...
Anyhow...
I don't disagree with you at all, Bob. They're not the same as the Pure and BPS reels. There's NO comparison between the Lew's and those two. I debate the validity of your argument that, should we take comparable reels in the Lew's line and Shimano, that the Lew's are unquestionably better, and better value. I've seen the opposite of your findings in my experience. But then, there are also reels from Daiwa that I prefer over both.
As has been pointed out, numerous times, one of the most highly recommended combos in a baitcaster for the past couple years has emerged to be a Lew's on a Dobyn's. this silly notion of a Shimano Posse is pretty silly...
Hooligan reply :
On 2/17/2014 at 12:43 PM, bflp3 said:Really? I never have loading problems with the BPS site. I always have loading problems with the TW site on the other hand. I will say trying to use the regular BPS site is pretty rough on mobile. The page keeps scrolling back to the top when you try to look at stuff on the bottom of the page.
Constant. I cannot open the website from my laptop without it hanging Firefox, to get it to open in Chrome, I have to use safe mode regularly. IE? Forget about it.
J Francho reply :
IE? Really? Lol. Is that still a thing?
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
On 2/17/2014 at 12:43 PM, bflp3 said:Really? I never have loading problems with the BPS site. I always have loading problems with the TW site on the other hand. I will say trying to use the regular BPS site is pretty rough on mobile. The page keeps scrolling back to the top when you try to look at stuff on the bottom of the page.
X2 I go to the site multiple times weekly I use IE8 most of the time. Crome I just tried went to main page clicked on bc reels picked a reel at random and then added to cart went to checkout all within a minute.
rippin-lips reply :
All he said was that his Lews are what he wanted his shimano's to be and that a bps or abu is not the same reel. Not really any actual explanation as to why he prefers one over the other. As for me, I wasn't trying to turn the thread into a debate. As you said,it's an opinion in the end. Take it,leave it, I won't lose any sleep over it. It's the internet. Also the shimano sheriff was just a little humor. Not intended to be taken seriously by anyone.On 2/17/2014 at 12:46 PM, Hooligan said:at least the good captain is able to finitely, and capably explain why it is that he prefers one over the other.
Long Mike reply :
On 2/17/2014 at 10:54 AM, rippin-lips said:Shhh Capt.Bob,the shimano sheriff might get you.
There is no Shimano Sheriff. To imply otherwise is doing a disservice to the Moderators of these forums. As Moderators, we all have our preferences. That's right, we are normal people. Only one of us has a strong preference for Shimano, but that is human nature. If you like a Ford or a Chevy, you tend to stick with it and to tout its virtues. The rest of we Mods may have a preference for other brands, but have not been so vocal about it in the past. I certainly have have had a previous love affair with another brand, as do the other Mods, but our prejudices are beginning to change with the introduction of new products to the market place. For example, Pinnacle has introduced a new line of rods and reels that are top-notch. We Mods have had the opportunity to put some of these rods and reels through their paces and have for the most part, been thoroughly impressed.
rippin-lips reply :
As I said it wasn't directed at anyone or was I trying to imply there was one. Honestly I had no idea there was a mod that strongly likes shimano. I'll gladly delete it if it's considered offensive towards someone. Not my intentions.
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
On 2/17/2014 at 1:07 PM, rippin-lips said:As I said it wasn't directed at anyone or was I trying to imply there was one. Honestly I had no idea there was a mod that strongly likes shimano. I'll gladly delete it if it's considered offensive towards someone. Not my intentions.
Mention something negative about shimano you offend 80% of this site.
bflp3 reply :
I'm new here, but I see a lot more Lew's guys bagging on Shimano than the other way around. Perhaps I missed something in the past though.
It is funny though, no matter the topic or hobby, these brand loyalty scuffles always seem to happen on forums. I suppose its just human's tribalistic nature.
J Francho reply :
What this has to do with no Lew's at Bass Pro is beyond me.
Let's get back on topic.
Capt.Bob reply :
On 2/17/2014 at 1:34 PM, J Francho said:What this has to do with no Lew's at Bass Pro is beyond me.
Let's get back on topic.
Your right J, the op was answered hours ago, it is obvious that Lynn Reeves the CEO of Lew's leaving Bass Pro with the position he had, and hard feelings both ways, is why no Lew's at BPS. Questions falsely answers that they were the same reels were responded to to clarify that no they are not the same, the fact is if Lynn Reeves had left BPS the way he did and purchased Diawa and started his own new line the same would have been BPS actions, they would not be selling Diawas! but other thought’s and remarks were part of the thread, many post their thoughts not knowing they are incorrect, part of the thread is responding to those misinformed post's to make others aware of the facts it’s all good and other than moderators I have not seen where anyone else was annoyed??????? what am I missing??? 
iabass8 reply :
It's snowing a lot where I am at.
Capt.Bob reply :
On 2/17/2014 at 1:07 PM, rippin-lips said:As I said it wasn't directed at anyone or was I trying to imply there was one. Honestly I had no idea there was a mod that strongly likes shimano. I'll gladly delete it if it's considered offensive towards someone. Not my intentions.
Humor bust have become something that is heavily monitored in this day and age, politically correct,,,thats my motto,,,,,
J Francho reply :
Shimano, Daiwa, TW, sheriffs, Internet Exploiter, jokes…
I think we've got our answers. No need to let this deteriorate into acrimony just because the lake is frozen.
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