fishing knots 2024
dsqui reply :
So I know that this is a question asked a million times but I'll ask it again.. What knot is everyone using to tie on a leader to braid(15lb power pro to 6-8 lb cxx) uni to uni Albright or Alberto what are the advantages of each. Do you use super glue or anything else to help strengthen the knot...where can I find a good demo of how to tie this knot... Also with the locked threads on best reel and rod ect I thought maybe a mod could start one for knots maybe with links on where to find how to tie them what is suggested the most for certain applications ect...is there any good apps for a phone anyone would suggest because with New knots sometimes YouTube is not accessable
Jar11591 reply :
The knot I use for braid to leader is the Albright Special. I've never had a need for superglue.
dsqui reply :
I was just on there site looking at knots a lot of options on there
frosty reply :
This is my chosen leader knot, but I may try the Albright after I can practice it a little
bigturtle reply :
I use alberto knot, 4-5 wraps each way, no supergue
soflabasser reply :
Haven't had a single uni to uni knot break on me,even on sharks that weigh several hundred pounds.
new2BC4bass reply :
I use the Alberto, but it is hard for me to tie using just my hands. (I know....practice more.) The FG Knot is one I feel I will be able to tie even on a boat.
Angry John reply :
I use the alberto. I add more wraps for lighter line and take one or two away on heavy line. Five both directions works well on 65 to 20lb flouro and keeps the knot small. On 20 to 10 or 6 i use 8 each way maybe more if i loose track.
FishOnLMB reply :
Check out the FG knot. In the beginning it is a hard knot to master, but it is worth it. It is a slim and really strong knot. The only time I have to re tie my leader know is when the leader gets to short. Check out Flukemasters channel on youtube ; he has tutorial on how to do it.
Darren. reply :
Go to:
Uni-to-uni
Modified Albright/Alberto
Shunned:
FG 
no matter what they say, it is difficult
and nigh impossible to tie on the water - at least
in a kayak. And the knot is very loooong. I have
no issues and zero failures with uni-to-uni, and
it is super easy, so why change?
MassYak85 reply :
I've settled on Alberto/Albright. Good combination of small size, strength, and ease of tying. I do still keep the FG knot in my figurative back pocket for when I am tying leaders at home before a trip or really need the extra thin knot (high diameter lines it starts to matter).
new2BC4bass reply :
On 3/15/2017 at 9:47 AM, Darren. said:Go to:
Uni-to-uni
Modified Albright/Alberto
Shunned:
FG
no matter what they say, it is difficult
and nigh impossible to tie on the water - at least
in a kayak. And the knot is very loooong. I have
no issues and zero failures with uni-to-uni, and
it is super easy, so why change?
I don't mind a little long since it has a small diameter, but you are bursting my bubble by telling me it isn't as easy to tie as they are making out. Maybe I'll have to try the Albert Special. I have a heck of a time holding proper tension with the Alberto with just my hands which is why I tie it at home where I can anchor one end.
RoLo reply :
I'm now in my 7th decade of fishing in both fresh and saltwater.
So you can well imagine how many different knots I've tied over the decades 
Today I tie one knot for nearly everything, and that's the "Uni-knot" where 'uni' stands for 'universal'.
The uni-knot is a fast, easy to tie, remarkably secure, saliva-free knot.
I should add that I 'never' use fluorocarbon for anything, which is the main source of knot disappointment.
Though I do use P-Line CXX for dropshot rigs, I use fluoro for nothing.
Roger
fishnkamp reply :
I use Stren mono as backing on every reel I own except ones filled with mono for top water. I then tie either P line CXX in moss green or braid on using a uni to uni knot. On most all of my rigs I tie on a 4 foot leader made of either 8 pound CXX or 6 pound P Line Halo if I want a fluoro leader. All of those are tied on again using the uni to uni knot. I have been doing this for the last 7 years and have never had an issue with a double uni knot fail. Many of my rods have micro guides and have had no problem with the knots going through the guides either. I was introduced to doing things this way by Craig Powers, an FLW angler and fishing guide.
A-Jay reply :
On 3/15/2017 at 10:26 AM, RoLo said:I'm now in my 7th decade of fishing in both fresh and saltwater.
Roger
EASILY my favorite sentence read since I became a member.
You Are The Man.
A-Jay
FrankN209 reply :
Uni to Uni..
Bass_Fishing_Socal reply :
Uni to uni for me as well, it is proven to me many times that my hook knot (trilene knot) would fail before uni to uni (braid to copolymer). Another knot I use when on a water with short leader is surgeon knot, very easy to tie and strength is exceptable.
NHBull reply :
The Uni and uni-to uni is the only knots you need to know. They work for everything.
The only knots I use
Uni
FG
Modified Alberto
Largemouth21 reply :
Uni-to -Uni works good...
NHBull reply :
The FG is a knot that that is often followed by the phrase," I tie it on land but never on the boat"
I found a video that showed using the thumb and baby finger to keep the main line tight, and the other hand to weave.
Now I could tie the d**n thing at night.
Will link for the link and post it later.
I sometimes use 15' leader and seldom notice it
Found it:
MickD reply :
Uni-uni is easy to tie, reliable, but it is big. It has five layers of the leader, so if you use leader of about 20 pounds or up, it gets so big that it won't work with micros, and it will make noise going through regular guides. It is my knot where it will work with the guides I'm using.
I've learned the FG so I can tie them quite efficiently, and for a really heavy leader, they work very well. It is the smallest knot that works, only one layer of the leader. And it tests as about the strongest knot. But. . .For some reason I've yet to understand, when I tie them with leaders of about 20 pounds test and below, I often have the knot slip when testing it. It is not reliable for me in the lower tests.
I've concluded that the Alberto, with about 6 wraps up and 6 back is small enough to work with just about any guides (only two layers of the leader), is very strong, is easy to tie, and is reliable IF YOU UNDERSTAND that putting the tag end out the same way it came in (think of a door, the line comes in, winds around a lot, then goes back out the same door) is critical to the success of the knot. Put it through the loop from the other side, the wrong way, and it will fail. But once you understand this, it's easy to do right.
BassWhole! reply :
On 3/15/2017 at 9:30 AM, new2BC4bass said:I use the Alberto, but it is hard for me to tie using just my hands. (I know....practice more.) The FG Knot is one I feel I will be able to tie even on a boat.
If you find the FG easier to tie than the mod Albright (Alberto can kiss my butt, and he knows why) you are doing something wrong. I tie a couple of half hitches on the braid to finish off.
Darren. reply :
On 3/15/2017 at 7:58 PM, MickD said:
I've learned the FG so I can tie them quite efficiently, and for a really heavy leader, they work very well. It is the smallest knot that works, only one layer of the leader. And it tests as about the strongest knot. But. . .For some reason I've yet to understand, when I tie them with leaders of about 20 pounds test and below, I often have the knot slip when testing it. It is not reliable for me in the lower tests.
BINGO!!
Show me a reliable FG using 10# braid and a 6# fluoro
leader and I'll show you ocean front property in Montana. 
The uni-to-uni is plenty small in that combination, and it
is reliable! I also agree that the Mod'd Albright/Alberto
is great in smaller diameter lines.
NHBull reply :
Darren, I have used it often going from 10 to 8. The trick is to pulls hard in it every 1/3 when tying it,,,,,,,,
But agree that the lines are so small that other knots (alberto) is easier to tie with less room for error
runt4561 reply :
i was always a uni to uni knot fan.... until I found the FG knot. The FG knot is stronger and the knot itself is more streamlined. it will not hang up in the rod guides as much, when you cast. with a very small amount of practice, you will be able to tie this knot very easily.
Team9nine reply :
I avoid uni knots - Alberto and 'J' knot here, with the occasional FG. *** or animatedknots for website how to tie info.
-T9
Darren. reply :
On 3/15/2017 at 9:22 PM, NHBull said:Darren, I have used it often going from 10 to 8. The trick is to pulls hard in it every 1/3 when tying it,,,,,,,,
But agree that the lines are so small that other knots (alberto) is easier to tie with less room for error
You *just* missed the ocean-front Montana property
ThePolkFolk reply :
I tie an FG knot during prep but not good enough yet to do it on the boat; usually a uni on the water if the leader gets too short. I have had no issues with the FG so far going from 15# braid to 10# flouro.
Hawkeye21 reply :
I prefer avoiding all of these knots altogether and just using all braid or fluoro. I hate mono.
MickD reply :
Some conclusions, as I interpret the responses:
The double uni is strong,reliable, easy to tie for everyone. But not close to the smallest and most streamlined through the guides.
The FG works for some, not for others, and is the most smallest and most streamlined through the guides. If you can make it work reliably, lucky you. I've tried the pulling it tight for every set of weaves, and it helps. . . but not always.
The Alberto/"double" Albright is reliable, easy to tie for everyone, and small/streamlined enough for almost any guides and pound tests.
And a couple other knots that people have found good, but are not universally known, like the surgeons knot.
Take your choice; I'll stick with the double uni for small line diameters, and the Alberto for the others. Having said that, I still do have a couple rigs with FG's tied last year. I like it, but don't fully trust it.
BrianSnat reply :
I use the Alberto for floro to braid and the nail knot for fly leader to flyline.
TH-Outdoors reply :
On 3/15/2017 at 8:46 AM, Jar11591 said:The knot I use for braid to leader is the Albright Special. I've never had a need for superglue.
Question to all, when tying these knots do they make it to where when you spool on the braid after tying the knot it makes it to where there is a slight bump in the line over the part where the knot is on the spool? For me, there is always one side of the spool that is slightly more full than the other in relativity to how much of the side of the spool is showing)
Jar11591 reply :
On 3/16/2017 at 6:42 AM, TH-Outdoors said:Question to all, when tying these knots do they make it to where when you spool on the braid after tying the knot it makes it to where there is a slight bump in the line over the part where the knot is on the spool? For me, there is always one side of the spool that is slightly more full than the other in relativity to how much of the side of the spool is showing)
I believe you're talking about the knot being reeled all the way into the reel? If so, I never reel my leader in that far, although I will reel it through the guides. But I imagine there would be a small bump where the knot lays. I use the same knot for backing to braid and it leaves a small bump on the spool but it quickly disappears after a couple layers of line are reeled over it. I think this is what you mean?
Darren. reply :
On 3/16/2017 at 6:42 AM, TH-Outdoors said:Question to all, when tying these knots do they make it to where when you spool on the braid after tying the knot it makes it to where there is a slight bump in the line over the part where the knot is on the spool? For me, there is always one side of the spool that is slightly more full than the other in relativity to how much of the side of the spool is showing)
Different schools of thought on this. (If I understand
your question).
Gary Yamamoto likes to have a very long leader of
20' sometimes more because, he reasons, he wants
the knot to be on his reel when he's fighting the fish
near the boat so there is no "weak point". I.e., the
leader knot.
Personally, I don't subscribe to that except that I see
his logic. I prefer shorter leaders, and because I use
shorter rods, the leader knot can still just wind on to
my spool if I bring it all the way in. I try not to do that
but sometimes it happens.
MassYak85 reply :
On 3/15/2017 at 8:57 PM, Darren. said:
BINGO!!
Show me a reliable FG using 10# braid and a 6# fluoro
leader and I'll show you ocean front property in Montana.
The uni-to-uni is plenty small in that combination, and it
is reliable! I also agree that the Mod'd Albright/Alberto
is great in smaller diameter lines.
It can be done with smaller lines but like NHBull said you have to pay more attention to tightening it as you go or it will slip. I've done 10lb braid to 6lb leader before and it was fine. But the thing is the benefits of the FG aren't really as noticeable at those smaller diameters so I usually don't even bother.
TH-Outdoors reply :
@Jar11591 @Darren. Dang, I forgot to mention that I'm using this knot to connect braid to mono backing, not as a leader. After reeling the line over it, you don't necessarily feel the bump you can just see on the spool that there is more spool covering the side than compared to the other side. I can post a pic if you guys wanted. It has no effect on performance I was just curious if it was normal because I'm new to braid
Edit: I just looked and it only happened to my Curado, weird.
MickD reply :
With double unis and something like 20 pound mono (backing) you'll see and feel the bump under the line unless there is a lot of line over it. At times the line on top can actually hang up on the tag end of the mono. This is where the smaller knots like the Alberto shine over the double uni.
Team9nine reply :
For down in the spool connections, I always just position the knot in the center of the spool with any tag ends pointed down into the spool. Eliminates any chance of snagging, and the layer lines either give me a slight bump in the spool center (which is fine, even a good thing), or more frequently the subsequent layers will split to either side of the knot (because they now have room to do so) and you'll never know it's there.
-T9
NHBull reply :
On 3/16/2017 at 8:22 AM, TH-Outdoors said:@Jar11591 @Darren. Dang, I forgot to mention that I'm using this knot to connect braid to mono backing, not as a leader. After reeling the line over it, you don't necessarily feel the bump you can just see on the spool that there is more spool covering the side than compared to the other side. I can post a pic if you guys wanted. It has no effect on performance I was just curious if it was normal because I'm new to braid
Edit: I just looked and it only happened to my Curado, weird.
While I have ever noticed a bump from the backing to main line, if it concerns you, a small piece of tape fixes it.
Something to be said for not using backing.....
crypt reply :
On 3/15/2017 at 8:51 AM, bigturtle said:I use alberto knot, 4-5 wraps each way, no supergue
this....
Big Bait Fishing reply :
i've been using the Surgeon's Knot and it is probably the easiest knot to tie , it's compact ( i have micro guides on ALL my fishing rods ) and very strong
from this picture it looks bulky but it is not at all ...
Bass_Fishing_Socal reply :
On 3/17/2017 at 1:36 PM, Big Bait Fishing said:i've been using the Surgeon's Knot and it is probably the easiest knot to tie , it's compact ( i have micro guides on ALL my fishing rods ) and very strong
from this picture it looks bulky but it is not at all ...
I use this knot with 6 wraps when leader is shorter than 2 feet otherwise uni to uni.
tander reply :
I use the Alberto knot, easy to tie and it holds.
Fisher-O-men reply :
On 3/16/2017 at 3:44 AM, MickD said:I like it, but don't fully trust it.
Speaking of the FG Knot. I know the feeling. Braid wrapped around a single strand of FC line? You really have to trust the concept!
MickD reply :
On 3/18/2017 at 2:26 AM, Fisher-O-men said:Speaking of the FG Knot. I know the feeling. Braid wrapped around a single strand of FC line? You really have to trust the concept!
If you get it to grip solidly as you test it, it will last "forever." With the heavier tests FC the weave will actually deform the FC leader into a sort of "corkscrew," and it will not slip. Some time when you get what you think is a good FG, cut it apart to see what the weaves do to the FC. But sometimes it doesn't grip, especially on the lighter tests. I saw one post on it in which the poster recommended scraping the surface of the braid to remove any low friction coating. I don't know if low friction braids or FC's are part of the problem or not. But it might be worth some investigation.
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