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When snagged pull or cut? 2024


fishing user avatarTxHawgs reply : 

Ok, so first off if I'm fishing 15lb fluoro its dam strong and you have to pull it really hard to break off or pull loose. Well that ruins the fluoro stretching it like that correct? So what happened and my example is this, I'm crankbait fishing w an 8ft rod and SK 8XD so making bomb cast on this point. I get snagged so do I pull and hope it breaks off and I lose the lure or is that wrecking the line cuz I'm pulling on it so hard to break it loose that I bent a cpl guides on a 350 dollar rod and yes the rod is pointed straight at the bait. Or do u just cut it loose and loose so much line that it puts that rod out of commission for the rest of the day not to mention leaving all that line in the lake. And I'm a co angler so it's not like I can have multiple rods of the same type when I already have 7 in the boat. So there u have it, so what do u guys do?

 


fishing user avatarWRB reply : 

Why pull hard before trying to shake it loose from several different angles since you have a boat? Next before trying to break the crankbait off, use a lure retriever to recover the lure. Don't worry about shutting the bite off, the bass will return in about 20 minutes.

Tom


fishing user avatarOnthePotomac reply : 

If you decide to pull to either free up a bait, or break off don't use the rod to do it.  Solution:  Get a piece of 1" dowel, or broom stick cut to 6" long.  Take a file and file a grove around the middle of the piece and when you want to pull, wrap the line around the wood piece on the groove off the end of your rod  and save your rod. 


fishing user avatarTOXIC reply : 

One sage piece of advice......stand sideways to the bait.  Don't ask me how I know.  


fishing user avatarJ Francho reply : 

You need a plug knocker.


fishing user avatarDomQ reply : 
  On 6/12/2018 at 2:24 AM, TOXIC said:

One sage piece of advice......stand sideways to the bait.  Don't ask me how I know.  

You still have both eyes? Lao did it hurt right away or take a second?


fishing user avatarNYWayfarer reply : 
  On 6/12/2018 at 1:42 AM, TxHawgs said:

Or do u just cut it loose and loose so much line that it puts that rod out of commission for the rest of the day not to mention leaving all that line in the lake.

Leaving line in the lake should be the last resort solution. On a boat or kayak I maneuver around until I am on the other side of the snag and get it loose. On the bank I walk to the right or left and shake to work it free or use the bowstring method in hopes of freeing my snagged lure.

 

  On 6/12/2018 at 2:05 AM, OnthePotomac said:

If you decide to pull to either free up a bait, or break off don't use the rod to do it.  Solution:  Get a piece of 1" dowel, or broom stick cut to 6" long.  Take a file and file a grove around the middle of the piece and when you want to pull, wrap the line around the wood piece on the groove off the end of your rod  and save your rod. 

Good advice. I use my fish grippers the same way you use the broom stick. I wrap my line around the handle and pull the line until it breaks. 9 out of 10 times it breaks at the knot leaving very little of any line in the water.


fishing user avatarBass_Fishing_Socal reply : 

I guess you are bank fishing, otherwise you would talk about plug knocker already. Bank fishing and plug knocker wouldn't you do any good. I only able to retrieve my lure back just a few times when snag really close and lost it afterwards. I also using my whole rod as knocker when the lure is close(you can damage your tip guide this way, I did this only for expensive lures)

like @NYWayfarermentioned leaving a lot of line in water is not good, it will become a whole pile underwater and snag other lure even more, and birds might get tangle with the line(I rescued a duck with line tangle his foot before).

I'd pull and hope your line brake at the knot, 15lb Flouro is nothing, you can brake pull with ease without special tool. Point your rod tip straight to the lure, hold your thump tight on the spool, quick hard pull and duck.


fishing user avatarAll about da bass reply : 

When I get hung and I don't feel like trolling over the other side of it and pull, I just pull a little tension on it and grab the line that's at the base of the rod and pull back and snap it like a bow. It usually sends enough vibration to pop it off or loose.


fishing user avatarJ Francho reply : 
  On 6/12/2018 at 1:42 AM, TxHawgs said:

And I'm a co angler so it's not like I can have multiple rods of the same type when I already have 7 in the boat.

 

  On 6/12/2018 at 3:29 AM, JustJames said:

I guess you are bank fishing, otherwise you would talk about plug knocker already.

 

  On 6/12/2018 at 2:31 AM, J Francho said:

You need a plug knocker.

 


fishing user avatarAll about da bass reply : 
  On 6/12/2018 at 3:29 AM, JustJames said:

I guess you are bank fishing, otherwise you would talk about plug knocker already. Bank fishing and plug knocker wouldn't you do any good. I only able to retrieve my lure back just a few times when snag really close and lost it afterwards. I also using my whole rod as knocker when the lure is close(you can damage your tip guide this way, I did this only for expensive lures)

like @NYWayfarermentioned leaving a lot of line in water is not good, it will become a whole pile underwater and snag other lure even more, and birds might get tangle with the line(I rescued a duck with line tangle his foot before).

I'd pull and hope your line brake at the knot, 15lb Flouro is nothing, you can brake pull with ease without special tool. Point your rod tip straight to the lure, hold your thump tight on the spool, quick hard pull and duck.

He just said he is a co angler. Do they have bank fishing tournaments now? Kidding????


fishing user avatarBass_Fishing_Socal reply : 

My bad


fishing user avatarJ Francho reply : 

It's all good!


fishing user avatarMassYak85 reply : 
  On 6/12/2018 at 2:31 AM, J Francho said:

You need a plug knocker.

THIS

 

It will pay for itself in probably your first trip


fishing user avatarAngry John reply : 

Just got my first good knocker, a lure hound.  I fish more agressively now that I have it, works great.


fishing user avatarMassYak85 reply : 
  On 6/12/2018 at 5:06 AM, Angry John said:

Just got my first good knocker, a lure hound.  I fish more agressively now that I have it, works great.

I have this same one and highly recommend it. It's not expensive and I currently have a 100% success rate on retrieving anything from cranks to jigs. 


fishing user avatarAngry John reply : 

Ten bucks from tw makes value in the first lure saved.  Does turn line orange though.


fishing user avatarTxHawgs reply : 

Yea I'm pretty advanced and know of the bow string technique and I had but have run out of the knockers. They work good on single hook stuff but this was only coming off w one of the dog retrievers. We moved boat around to different angles no success. And I have wrapped my line around things to pull like mentioned but overlooked it this time just wasn't thinking. So I need to get a dog retriever guess there not too big to add just wont be able to put it in one of those retractable dog leashes. I use tatsu and sunline fc and a steady pull the *** strong as hell I've broke hooks b4 line. So last question that no one commented on, I always read once you stretch fluoro like that its shot. True or false? 


fishing user avatarTOXIC reply : 
  On 6/12/2018 at 2:45 AM, DomQ said:

You still have both eyes? Lao did it hurt right away or take a second?

It wasn't my eyes that took the hit.  :o


fishing user avatarww2farmer reply : 
  On 6/12/2018 at 6:47 PM, TOXIC said:

It wasn't my eyes that took the hit.  :o

On a related note....I once had to call it day after a missed hook set with a hollow body frog came flying back and hit me square in the.......well....you get the picture. Thank god it wasn't a big spook.


fishing user avatarJ Francho reply : 
  On 6/12/2018 at 5:24 AM, MassYak85 said:

I have this same one and highly recommend it. It's not expensive and I currently have a 100% success rate on retrieving anything from cranks to jigs. 

I've had my janky Bill Dance knocker for several years, and I'm at 100% as well.


fishing user avatarTodd2 reply : 

The bow trick works for me 90% of the time,  the other 10 I just pull it out with a dowel rod. My plug knocker is gathering spider webs, but I'm using braid. For Fluoro, I'd keep the plug knocker handy and it'll save you a lot of lures.


fishing user avatarChoporoz reply : 
  On 6/12/2018 at 12:11 PM, TxHawgs said:

 So last question that no one commented on, I always read once you stretch fluoro like that its shot. True or false? 

Never heard that...doesn't mean it isn't true....but, wouldn't you risk ruining a spool with every fish and snag? 

 

As to plug knockers, I use Big Ugly Plug Knockers - from ebay - most of my fishing is from a kayak and the hound was more bulk and weight than I like to pack most days.


fishing user avatarLogan S reply : 
  On 6/12/2018 at 12:11 PM, TxHawgs said:

So last question that no one commented on, I always read once you stretch fluoro like that its shot. True or false? 

True.  There's a point where you 'overstretch' it if you pull too hard and it kills that section of line.  If I have to pull hard to get off a snag I'll wrap it around my pliers as close as I can get and pull from there, then cut my line where I wrapped it and retie to avoid the damaged section.  

 

But like everyone else said, get a hound dog.  


fishing user avatargrub_man reply : 

Fluoro does stretch in these situations.  Unlike mono, it quickly stretches out of its elastic region and does not spring back.  When you stretch fluoro, you are effectively decreasing its diameter and decreasing its breaking strength.  I wouldn't say its shot after a single snag, but repeated stretching or extreme stretching will kill the line.

 

Plug knockers are great and worth every penny, but I'm not even sure if mine is in the boat right now.  I might want to take a look.

 

When you can't get it back, definitely break the line rather than cut it.  It's not good to leave line in the lake, but I have retrieved a few nice cranks over the years after catching someone's cut line.


fishing user avatarMassYak85 reply : 
  On 6/12/2018 at 8:48 PM, Todd2 said:

The bow trick works for me 90% of the time,  the other 10 I just pull it out with a dowel rod. My plug knocker is gathering spider webs, but I'm using braid. For Fluoro, I'd keep the plug knocker handy and it'll save you a lot of lures.

Why don't you use the plug knocker with braid? I use braid for 95 percent of my fishing and always carry the plug knocker. 


fishing user avatarTodd2 reply : 
  On 6/12/2018 at 10:15 PM, MassYak85 said:

Why don't you use the plug knocker with braid? I use braid for 95 percent of my fishing and always carry the plug knocker. 

Even when I use mono, the Bow & Arrow trick works most of the time. I think the braid allows me to load up the rod a little more without risk of breaking off and when released the lure pops loose. If that doesn't work I just go to the opposite side of the snag and try the same thing. If it still is stuck, which is rare, I just pull it loose. I still have the knocker in my boat, just in case but haven't needed it since going to straight braid.


fishing user avatarWRB reply : 

The OP stated fishing as a co-angler and that puts a different perspective on his question. Asking the front seat to stop and retreive a lure may not go over well.

my suggestion is use mono like Big Game or Sunline Defier Armilo and take extra line and extra lures with you.

Tom

 


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fishing user avatarJ Francho reply : 
  On 6/13/2018 at 12:08 AM, WRB said:

Asking the front seat to stop and retreive a lure may not go over well.

I've never NOT stopped and get a lure free for a co. 


fishing user avatarTennessee Boy reply : 

I think your question is mainly about co-angler etiquette.  I think that depends a lot on the tournament and what each angler has on the line.   If it's a big money pro tournament, I wouldn't expect they guy to waste a lot of time to save a $7 lure.  However,  if he's in last place and you're winning the co-angler division he needs to show some consideration for what's on the line for you.  If it's a friendly club tournament,  then I would expect the guy stop and do whatever he would do if his lure was snagged.  Now if you're asking him to stop for three minutes every five minutes,  you might need to change lures.


fishing user avatarJ Francho reply : 

I only fish in team format tournaments anymore, so if the co-angler is hindered, so is the team.  However, I'd apply the Golden Rule, regardless of format.


fishing user avatarDelaware Valley Tackle reply : 
  On 6/13/2018 at 1:54 AM, J Francho said:

I only fish in team format tournaments anymore, so if the co-angler is hindered, so is the team.  However, I'd apply the Golden Rule, regardless of format.

Isn't it sad that this is even part of a discussion? What's this world coming to?


fishing user avatarbhoff reply : 

If you are fishing from a boat it is much easier to maneuver around the area in which the bait is snagged for the most part to retrieve it. However, if you are fishing from the bank then this can become quite difficult. Most of the time if I think that my bait is either snagged on a log or caught in a tree (woops!) I just end up trying to pull. Depending on the lb test of the line you can have moderate success. Last night though I was throwing a jig on 50lb PP and got it stuck on a branch . Proceeded to pull knowing the bait would come out with the high strength line and ended up launching the bait into my arm. Thank god it didn't turn over and get me with the hook because that would have gone in DEEP. Still have a nice welt to show for it though haha.


fishing user avatarWRB reply : 

Not everyone is wired the same, some are very competitive whiles other are laid back.

Not everyone as skilled at keeping lures from snagging or getting snagged lures free.

If you don't know the boater it's a good idea to ask if it's ok to go in to retrieve a snagged crankbait before breaking it off. I usually ask my backseater to hand me his rod to try to shake the snagged lure free and it's successful most of the time and that gives me an opportunity to demonstrate the technique. It's also easier for me being in control of the boat to manuever it getting the lure out. If all else fails the lure retrieve is deployed.

Some anglers don't want any help and prefer to break off lures.

Tom


fishing user avatardeep reply : 
  On 6/13/2018 at 4:53 AM, WRB said:

I usually ask my backseater to hand me his rod

...

Some anglers don't want any help and prefer to break off lures.

 

My buddy- who I fish with often- likes to use his rod like you would use a telescopic lure retriever.

 

I learnt not to hand him my rod the first or second time I fished with him. Luckily it was only a busted tip insert and not a broken rod. Other than that, he's a great guy.

 

If we can't get my bait free after trying from a couple different angles, I just break it off before he can ask me to hand him my rod.

 


fishing user avatarWRB reply : 
  On 6/13/2018 at 6:11 AM, deep said:

 

My buddy- who I fish with often- likes to use his rod like you would use a telescopic lure retriever.

 

I learnt not to hand him my rod the first or second time I fished with him. Luckily it was only a busted tip insert and not a broken rod. Other than that, he's a great guy.

 

If we can't get my bait free after trying from a couple different angles, I just break it off before he can ask me to hand him my rod.

 

You hold the rod tip high upright and shake the the tip into slack line to giggle the lure free before trying to force it. Anyone who uses and rod for a lure retreiver is asking for a broken rod. I believe there is a video of someone sliding the rod down the line to spear out the crankbait........nothing good is going to happen doing that trick!

Tom




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