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How To Cast A Round Baitcaster 2024


fishing user avatarJWOA reply : 

 I've been casting low profile baitcasters for years, I got my first one when I was 6 years old. A decade later I havent picked up a Spincaster nor spinning gear, Love a baitcaster. 

 Im getting into heavy stuff like big swim baits. I started looking and I borrowed one from a Older Gentlemen and i cant cast that thing worth a flip. It doesnt necessarily have any brakes to me. Maybe its just me...I can cast any low profile but when I went to a round I just can figure out where to put my thumb. I've put it on the side of the spool wall. Ive put my thumb right down the middle. Nothing....


fishing user avatar5dollarsplash reply : 

I tend to ride my thumb on the line a bit more with the round baitcasters, right in the middle. 

Are you getting backlash? 

Is it a conventional reel by chance?

If you list the model we might be able to give more specifics.


fishing user avatarCatt reply : 

What 5dollarsplash said ;)


fishing user avatarnew2BC4bass reply : 

My round reels are the 1600 size Black Max and Morrum.  I cast them same as a low profile reel.  The Black Max has no brake adjustment I know of.  They are great casting reels, but too small for your needs.


fishing user avatarJ Francho reply : 

What reel?  My round baitcast reels are set up and cast the same as the low pros. Sounds like yours is either something else, like a conventional or boat reel, or isn't set up properly.


fishing user avatarJWOA reply : 
  On 11/26/2013 at 11:57 PM, 5dollarsplash said:

I tend to ride my thumb on the line a bit more with the round baitcasters, right in the middle. 

Are you getting backlash? 

Is it a conventional reel by chance?

If you list the model we might be able to give more specifics.

 

 

  On 11/27/2013 at 1:01 AM, J Francho said:

What reel?  My round baitcast reels are set up and cast the same as the low pros. Sounds like yours is either something else, like a conventional or boat reel, or isn't set up properly.

 

 

  On 11/27/2013 at 12:59 AM, new2BC4bass said:

My round reels are the 1600 size Black Max and Morrum.  I cast them same as a low profile reel.  The Black Max has no brake adjustment I know of.  They are great casting reels, but too small for your needs.

  I was using a Abu Garcia Ambassadeur C3 with 12 lbs test line....i normally wouldnt fish this with big swimbaits...so i switched to the Shimano Calcuuta D with 80lbs...backlash is still there


fishing user avatarDwight Hottle reply : 

If you have set the calcutta D up properly using the brakes & cast control knob you should be good to go. To set the brakes on the calcutta D you have to pull the spool to access the brakes.  Maybe the problem is with your casting motion combined with the heavy baits. It is very easy to backlash when using heavy baits because they can accelerate so fast on a cast if you are whipping it as you cast. Try lob casting or casting sidearm and see if that helps. Just place the rod & bait behind you then cast forward without loading the rod like you would normally cast.


fishing user avatartomustang reply : 

You don't have I go full size, there is toro winch's, curado 300's, etc


fishing user avatarJ Francho reply : 

It's not the reel.  Set four brakes to "on" in an "X" pattern, and adjust the spool tension so that the bait just slowly drops when you press the thumb bar.  All else is user training.


fishing user avatarJWOA reply : 
  On 11/27/2013 at 3:26 AM, tomustang said:

You don't have I go full size, there is toro winch's, curado 300's, etc

  What about the Revo Inshore


fishing user avatarJWOA reply : 
  On 11/27/2013 at 3:33 AM, J Francho said:

It's not the reel.  Set four brakes to "on" in an "X" pattern, and adjust the spool tension so that the bait just slowly drops when you press the thumb bar.  All else is user training.

  I only see the circle thing on the side of the reel  thts next to the drag


fishing user avatarMarkH024 reply : 

The brakes are internal, so you need to open the reel up. That "circle thing" is the tension knob, like all the low profiles have. Once you figure out how to set the brakes, it should resolve your issue. 


fishing user avatarJ Francho reply : 

You remove the two larger screws on the cranking side to remove the gearbox, thus exposing the spool for removal.  According to TT, the reels are shipped with three brakes on, so really, I think this comes down to technique.  There's no diference between a lowpro centrifugal brake reel and a round reel, casting wise.  So, if you can cast a Chronarch or Citica fine, then you should be able to cast the Calcuta.  My guess is that your technique needs practice when throwing heavier baits.


fishing user avatarA-Jay reply : 
  On 11/26/2013 at 11:42 PM, Jay_White said:

 I've been casting low profile baitcasters for years, I got my first one when I was 6 years old. A decade later I havent picked up a Spincaster nor spinning gear, Love a baitcaster. 

 Im getting into heavy stuff like big swim baits. I started looking and I borrowed one from a Older Gentlemen and i cant cast that thing worth a flip. It doesnt necessarily have any brakes to me. Maybe its just me...I can cast any low profile but when I went to a round I just can figure out where to put my thumb. I've put it on the side of the spool wall. Ive put my thumb right down the middle. Nothing....

 

 Hi Jay,

 

 Since you have quite a bit of experience casting revolving spool reels, that Calcutta D should be no problem for you.  Once you've set up the brakes and the spool tension adjustments to your liking, that reel will practically cast itself.   Tossing big swim baits is a little different and may require that you to alter your actual casting motion slightly to get the right stroke.  Just start out slowly and as your accuracy and distance improves so will your confidence and before you know it, you'll be a pro with that Shimano as well.

 

Good Luck

 

A-Jay


fishing user avatarretiredbosn reply : 

As others have said most round reels require u to remove the spool to access the brakes. For many years all I fished with was round reels. No different from lp in regards to brakes, getting at them can be a pain though


fishing user avatarJWOA reply : 
  On 11/27/2013 at 3:51 AM, MarkH024 said:

The brakes are internal, so you need to open the reel up. That "circle thing" is the tension knob, like all the low profiles have. Once you figure out how to set the brakes, it should resolve your issue. 

  U said the brakes are on the inside...ive got no brakes


fishing user avatarA-Jay reply : 
  On 11/27/2013 at 9:11 AM, Jay_White said:

  U said the brakes are on the inside...ive got no brakes

 

Sounds like you might be somewhat unfamiliar with the inner workings of your reel.

 

If there is a tackle shop near you, perhaps you could take it in.  Someone who is familiar with setting up the reel could show you how to do it correctly.  Might take a good bit of the guess work out of it -

 

A-Jay


fishing user avatarJWOA reply : 
  On 11/27/2013 at 10:02 AM, A-Jay said:

Sounds like you might be somewhat unfamiliar with the inner workings of your reel.

 

If there is a tackle shop near you, perhaps you could take it in.  Someone who is familiar with setting up the reel could show you how to do it correctly.  Might take a good bit of the guess work out of it -

 

A-Jay

  Not worried went ahead and dumped it in the trash. I was reeling in and then the reverse ball bearing went out...therefore i just dumped it..picked it up at a garage sale not worried


fishing user avatarA-Jay reply : 
  On 11/27/2013 at 1:21 AM, Jay_White said:

  I was using a Abu Garcia Ambassadeur C3 with 12 lbs test line....i normally wouldnt fish this with big swimbaits...so i switched to the Shimano Calcuuta D with 80lbs...backlash is still there

 

 

  On 11/27/2013 at 10:15 AM, Jay_White said:

  Not worried went ahead and dumped it in the trash. I was reeling in and then the reverse ball bearing went out...therefore i just dumped it..picked it up at a garage sale not worried

 

 

And there ya go.

 

A-Jay


fishing user avatarEvanT123 reply : 
  On 11/27/2013 at 10:15 AM, Jay_White said:

Not worried went ahead and dumped it in the trash. I was reeling in and then the reverse ball bearing went out...therefore i just dumped it..picked it up at a garage sale not worried

You dumped the calcutta d in the trash? Send it to me I'll pay the shipping


fishing user avatarA-Jay reply : 
  On 11/27/2013 at 11:06 AM, et525i said:

You dumped the calcutta d in the trash? Send it to me I'll pay the shipping

 

Hold on a minute now . . . . Get in line . . . . :laugh5:

 

A-Jay


fishing user avatarEvanT123 reply : 
  On 11/27/2013 at 11:30 AM, A-Jay said:

Hold on a minute now . . . . Get in line . . . . :laugh5:

A-Jay

Can't fault a guy for trying lol

Jay,

Just keep working at it you will get it. Maybe try some cheap 25lb mono to mitigate the cost and pain of back lashing expensive line.


fishing user avatarCatt reply : 

I've used Calcuttas since they were invented, my setup is simple.

There are 6 breaks, I have every other one on, this never changes.

Tension knob is set for each lure weight, adjust until the lure hits the floor with maybe one or two loose coils of line with no thumb applied.

Educate you thumb to feel for loose coils during the cast.


fishing user avatarJ Francho reply : 

Are we really talking about a Calcutta D?

 

Calcutta_D.image.-familyImage-Single-ima

http://fish.shimano.com/publish/content/global_fish/en/us/index/products/reels/round_baitcasting/Calcutta_D.html

 

This is a $300-350 that has barely been out a year, probably still under warranty, and has a reputation of being a Sherman tank.  Something isn't adding up here.


fishing user avatarJWOA reply : 

  Here the reel Im talking about its by the Abu Garcia I dare not throw the Calcutta D away...but lets talk about parts...i took the Garcia apart...in the cranking side u had some gear....on the opposite side there were more gears in the inside....so I ddint see any breaks

  On 11/27/2013 at 10:39 PM, J Francho said:

Are we really talking about a Calcutta D?

 

Calcutta_D.image.-familyImage-Single-ima

http://fish.shimano.com/publish/content/global_fish/en/us/index/products/reels/round_baitcasting/Calcutta_D.html

 

This is a $300-350 that has barely been out a year, probably still under warranty, and has a reputation of being a Sherman tank.  Something isn't adding up here.


fishing user avatarA-Jay reply : 
  On 11/27/2013 at 10:39 PM, J Francho said:

Are we really talking about a Calcutta D?

 

Calcutta_D.image.-familyImage-Single-ima

http://fish.shimano.com/publish/content/global_fish/en/us/index/products/reels/round_baitcasting/Calcutta_D.html

 

This is a $300-350 that has barely been out a year, probably still under warranty, and has a reputation of being a Sherman tank.  Something isn't adding up here.

 

Utilizing the information provided, I'd say that the BR members who replied here were.

 

However the way this situation appears to have ended does lead one to believe that there is more to the story than meets the eye.  At least my one good one anyway.

 

A-Jay


fishing user avatarww2farmer reply : 

Hmmmmmmmmmm...............starting to see a pattern here. Different sets of equipment for tournaments per club rules? Throwing Calcutta D's in the trash?.............Gentlemen put the high boots on when walking through this mess.


fishing user avatarJ Francho reply : 
  On 11/27/2013 at 10:43 PM, Jay_White said:

  Here the reel Im talking about its by the Abu Garcia I dare not throw the Calcutta D away...but lets talk about parts...i took the Garcia apart...in the cranking side u had some gear....on the opposite side there were more gears in the inside....so I ddint see any breaks

 

The spool on a Garcia will have a long pin on the palm side.  There would be two shoes on the ends of that pin.  Often times, the shoes wore out, and were lost, thrown out, and never replaced.  They were not adjustable. 


fishing user avatarJWOA reply : 

I didnt throw the Calcutta D in the trash. It may have sounded like that but its still here. I threw the old Abu Garcia.

  On 11/27/2013 at 10:47 PM, ww2farmer said:

Hmmmmmmmmmm...............starting to see a pattern here. Different sets of equipment for tournaments per club rules? Throwing Calcutta D's in the trash?.............Gentlemen put the high boots on when walking through this mess.


fishing user avatarslonezp reply : 
  On 11/27/2013 at 3:26 AM, tomustang said:

You don't have I go full size, there is toro winch's, curado 300's, etc

I rarely use my Toro and still throw larger baits with a 20+ year old C3. The biggest difference from full size to the intermediate size is the price point. The Toro is at least $150 more than the C3. The C3 is a tank and will take a lot of abuse. I paid $50 or $60 for mine and it has seen more action and more fish than any of my other reels. I think it's been cleaned and repaired once in all the years I've had it. Right now I use it primarily for the a rig. 


fishing user avatarJWOA reply : 
  On 11/27/2013 at 10:55 PM, J Francho said:

The spool on a Garcia will have a long pin on the palm side.  There would be two shoes on the ends of that pin.  Often times, the shoes wore out, and were lost, thrown out, and never replaced.  They were not adjustable. 

 Thank u they looked some what like this...there was about a 1" pin on the end of the spool on th opposite side of the cranking side


fishing user avatarww2farmer reply : 
  On 11/27/2013 at 10:58 PM, Jay_White said:

I didnt throw the Calcutta D in the trash. It may have sounded like that but its still here. I threw the old Abu Garcia so dont give me no bull about this u mother yea tht right

Exhibit B...... Keep going cowboy.


fishing user avatarDelaware Valley Tackle reply : 

It's common practice for those brake pins to be removed to improve casting.


fishing user avatarSmallmouth Hunter reply : 

If you are having trouble finding the brakes on the Calcutta d, this should help.

 

Here is the calcutta with gear box (handle sideplate part) taken off:
picicast12calcutta11.jpg

 

From this point take out the spool.

picicast12calcutta12.jpg

 

Your reel will look like this when the spool is out. Next to the bearing on the far side of the inside of the reel, there is a ring of metal. This ring of metal is what the brake blocks rub against when you cast and the centrifugal force drives the brakes into this ring to slow down the spool.

picicast12calcutta13.jpg

 

Sorry if this is put in babyish steps, but I just wanted to be clear cause the Calcutta d is a bit different from other round reels..


fishing user avatarA-Jay reply : 
  On 11/28/2013 at 8:37 AM, aprw1 said:

If you are having trouble finding the brakes on the Calcutta d, this should help.

 

Here is the calcutta with gear box (handle sideplate part) taken off:

picicast12calcutta11.jpg

 

From this point take out the spool.

picicast12calcutta12.jpg

 

Your reel will look like this when the spool is out. Next to the bearing on the far side of the inside of the reel, there is a ring of metal. This ring of metal is what the brake blocks rub against when you cast and the centrifugal force drives the brakes into this ring to slow down the spool.

picicast12calcutta13.jpg

 

Sorry if this is put in babyish steps, but I just wanted to be clear cause the Calcutta d is a bit different from other round reels..

 

Very nice.

 

(I max'ed out on likes for the day)

 

A-Jay


fishing user avatartomustang reply : 
  On 11/27/2013 at 11:00 PM, slonezp said:

I rarely use my Toro and still throw larger baits with a 20+ year old C3. The biggest difference from full size to the intermediate size is the price point. The Toro is at least $150 more than the C3. The C3 is a tank and will take a lot of abuse. I paid $50 or $60 for mine and it has seen more action and more fish than any of my other reels. I think it's been cleaned and repaired once in all the years I've had it. Right now I use it primarily for the a rig.

The c3 is definitely a staple reel, I have one laying around but the soup can size is still awkward compared to using low profile a lot.


fishing user avatartomustang reply : 
  On 11/27/2013 at 3:34 AM, Jay_White said:

What about the Revo Inshore

You'll have to check the spool capacities, Rhett's also the daiwa lexa that comes in 300 and 400 size.




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