Rod with 1/8oz lure rating 2024
CybrSlydr reply :
So, I'm thinking of getting a second rod, one that's rated for 1/8oz lures and the like. Mine is currently 1/4-5/8 I believe.
My big concern is being able to cast far enough with such a light lure.
As a land-locked angler, being able to cast a lure far is a priority for me - will getting a rod that is rated for 1/8oz cast a 1/8oz lure as far as my current rod will cast a 1/4oz lure?
Yudo1 reply :
You'll notice a big difference between a rod that loads 1/8oz and the medium power rod you are currently using.
Raul reply :
On 4/5/2017 at 6:35 PM, CybrSlydr said:So, I'm thinking of getting a second rod, one that's rated for 1/8oz lures and the like. Mine is currently 1/4-5/8 I believe.
My big concern is being able to cast far enough with such a light lure.
As a land-locked angler, being able to cast a lure far is a priority for me - will getting a rod that is rated for 1/8oz cast a 1/8oz lure as far as my current rod will cast a 1/4oz lure?
The only way you are going to be able to "cast far" with that rod is by reducing line diameter so 2 lb mono or 10 lb braid is the way to achieve it, of course that with line that thin don't expect to muscle a fish out from cover.
fishnkamp reply :
If you want to get distance throwing lures that light than a quality spinning rod is the way to go. There are lots of good spinning rods that are rated from 1/16 to 5/16. I really like the Classic Spin Jig rod series of bass rods from G Loomis. These are expensive but a rod like a SJR 781 IMX will handle those baits well. It is a 6'6" light action rod that covers baits from 1/16 to 5/16. My wife and I fish the 6' versions and have for many years. These rods will run you $260. They have terrific sensitivity.
A less expensive option would be a Dobyns Sierra SA 702SF. It will run you around $170.
Lastly look at a ST Croix Avid X model AVC69MLXF which is a 6'9" ML xf rod. That rod is rated for lures 1/8 to 1/2 and runs $200.
Match that up with a nice reliable reel like a Pflueger Supreme 30 series reel and some 20 pound Power Pro Spectra braid. That line is the same diameter as 6 pound test mono.
CybrSlydr reply :
I was planning on just swapping the reel from my current rod whenever I decided to use it - it's a 4000-series Penn Battle II.
Good call on the downsizing line as well - that part slipped my mind. I would probably go with that 10lb braid and a flouro leader. A rod like the above would work well for ned rigging as well.
FryDog62 reply :
You could also try Nanofil, farthest casting line I've ever used. Maybe try 8 pound test (2 lb diameter). It's not the strongest or most abrasion resistant line and you need to tie their recommended knot.... but it will really launch a lure very very far.
CybrSlydr reply :
On 4/5/2017 at 8:24 PM, FryDog62 said:You could also try Nanofil, farthest casting line I've ever used. Maybe try 8 pound test (2 lb diameter). It's not the strongest or most abrasion resistant line and you need to tie their recommended knot.... but it will really launch a lure very very far.
I've used and have some nanofil - you're right, it's the farthest casting line I've ever used. Incredible stuff - but I have issues getting my knots to stay tied. Palomar, Nanofil knot, improved clinch, etc. I've not tried a Uni yet as I swapped it out for Fireline and a flouro leader. Got tired of losing lures. lol
I think what I have is the 12lb.
EDIT: I think about $150 is the top end of my budget for the rod, fishnkamp. Sometime in the future I might move into the G.Loomis bracket. 
fishnkamp reply :
I would not go that light on the braid. The 10 pound test braid measures thinner than 4 pound mono diameter.
My wife and I each use a pair of G Loomis SJR 721 and 722 rods. The 721 is a 6' light action version and we throw grubs, ned rigs smaller tubes and lots more baits. That 6'6" rod would also handle drop shots as well.
I suggested the Power Pro Spectra braid because lots of anglers like that line. I prefer Berkley FireLine in 14 pound test and a 4 foot leader made up of 8 pound P Line CXX in moss green. I do like both Suffix 832 and Power Pro for heavier duty uses.
lmbfisherman reply :
On 4/5/2017 at 8:26 PM, CybrSlydr said:
I've used and have some nanofil - you're right, it's the farthest casting line I've ever used. Incredible stuff - but I have issues getting my knots to stay tied. Palomar, Nanofil knot, improved clinch, etc. I've not tried a Uni yet as I swapped it out for Fireline and a flouro leader. Got tired of losing lures. lol
I think what I have is the 12lb.
EDIT: I think about $150 is the top end of my budget for the rod, fishnkamp. Sometime in the future I might move into the G.Loomis bracket.
If you don't mind used and they are probably hard to find though. The Fenwick Aetos M/F Spinning is sweet (previous blue version), has a huge range 1/16 to 3/4 oz. It is one of those "IT" rods that I have with me all the time. I'm kicking myself for not picking up another for 88.88 on FFO late last year.
CybrSlydr reply :
On 4/5/2017 at 9:10 PM, lmbfisherman said:If you don't mind used and they are probably hard to find though. The Fenwick Aetos M/F Spinning is sweet (previous blue version), has a huge range 1/16 to 3/4 oz. It is one of those "IT" rods that I have with me all the time. I'm kicking myself for not picking up another for 88.88 on FFO late last year.
That sounds perfect - where might I look to find one? What's FFO?
EDIT: Well, I almost shat myself when I googled "fishing ffo" and found this:
http://www.ffo-tackle.com/ffo-rods-spinning/fenwick-aetos-spinning/FFOV220215868899.html?count=1
Unfortunately, that's the Medium-Heavy 1/4-3/8oz instead of the 1/16-1/2.
I initially thought, "How could I be that lucky???" lol Oh well!
lmbfisherman reply :
On 4/5/2017 at 9:29 PM, CybrSlydr said:
That sounds perfect - where might I look to find one? What's FFO?
I guess try the auction sites and your local craigslist. The current version doesn't have the same range and is out of your price range unfortunately. Just do a google search with for ffo tackle.
smr913 reply :
St Croix Premier spinning rod.
| PS70MLF | 7' | ML | Fast | 4 - 10 | 1/8 - 1/2 | $130 |
lmbfisherman reply :
On 4/5/2017 at 9:29 PM, CybrSlydr said:
That sounds perfect - where might I look to find one? What's FFO?
EDIT: Well, I almost shat myself when I googled "fishing ffo" and found this:
http://www.ffo-tackle.com/ffo-rods-spinning/fenwick-aetos-spinning/FFOV220215868899.html?count=1
Unfortunately, that's the Medium-Heavy 1/4-3/8oz instead of the 1/16-1/2.
I initially thought, "How could I be that lucky???" lol Oh well!
Yeah I almost pulled the trigger numerous times last year, they had that M/F model for a long time. The main reason I didn't is because I'm in expat living in Canada. Shipping up here is costly. I could've sent it to my brother or work but then I'd still have the issue bringing it back. 
CybrSlydr reply :
Is this the right one?
http://www.fish-united.com/products/Fenwick-Aetos-Spinning-Rods.html
The A701MFS - anyone purchased from fish-united before?
CybrSlydr reply :
I'm leaning towards them not being legit with Shimano Stradic CI4s for $106 and other ludicrous prices like that.
lmbfisherman reply :
I never heard of them, just took a look. That is some crazy pricing. Maybe it's actually a Shishamo Stradddic C4Is? 
CybrSlydr reply :
On 4/6/2017 at 12:12 AM, lmbfisherman said:I never heard of them, just took a look. That is some crazy pricing. Maybe it's actually a Shishamo Stradddic C4Is?
If I had the $90 to risk, I might take a shot at that rod. For the price, that's hard to turn down.
lmbfisherman reply :
On 4/6/2017 at 12:19 AM, CybrSlydr said:
If I had the $90 to risk, I might take a shot at that rod. For the price, that's hard to turn down.
Well that's more believable because that was the price on FFO.
CybrSlydr reply :
On 4/6/2017 at 12:41 AM, lmbfisherman said:Well that's more believable because that was the price on FFO.
Well, the main issue is that I can't seem to find anyone that's purchased from there. I noticed the price was similar to what you said and you apparently trust FFO. So...
I just dunno if I'm going to chance it.
CybrSlydr reply :
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fishnkamp reply :
Well with a budget of $150 you still have some very nice options. Originally I suggested the Dobyns Sierra 702 but that is just above your budget so drop down to the Dobyns Fury line. These are rods Gary worked for 2 years to bring out a rod that met his high standards but at a lower cost . They fish more like a $200 rod than their price of $110. I would look at the Fury Fr 702SF. I have handled that rod and it will work nicely for your finesse needs.
I have a friend named Kris, he is a member on here, and he has been selling off many of his rods and been replacing them all with Fury's. I believe he is about to purchase his fourth one this month. They all feel great in your hand, balance well and are made with quality blanks and components.
Another great option in your budget would be a Powell Inferno series 6101 or 702. Take a look at those rods as well.
An Inferno runs $99
Do not hesitate to phone call those two companies and ask for their recommendations. I have spoken to the owners of both in the past. I also fish with rods from both as well.
CybrSlydr reply :
Why would you select a Sierra over the Fury? What about it is better?
lmbfisherman reply :
On 4/6/2017 at 1:59 AM, CybrSlydr said:Well, the main issue is that I can't seem to find anyone that's purchased from there. I noticed the price was similar to what you said and you apparently trust FFO. So...
I just dunno if I'm going to chance it.
Not saying I'd chance it either. Sorry should've been clear, although paypal is an option. Don't they have good buyer protection?
fishnkamp reply :
The Dobyns rods are like other brand rods, as the price increases the blanks generally get lighter, more sensitive and use higher end components. Gary himself has said that the most important element to building a rod that he will put his name on, and stake his reputation on, will always be built using a high quality blank. It took 2 whole years to develop the entire package that is a Fury rod. Each one of the models is designed to act as close to the more expensive rods as possible. Where he "cut corners" was using good quality reel seats and guides. He still uses good quality Fuji reel seats, good guides and wrappings, but not as high end Fuji components as a Sierra or either series of Champion rods get.
If you look at the the Fury rods he uses a nice reel seat and cork handle behind the seat. This means the rod is comfortable in your hand. However, he uses a high density Hypalon butt for the rear grip. It is comfortable to hold with your second hand for two handed casting, however less expensive than using all cork. This little detail helps keep the price down and has very little impact on your fishing. Same type of deal with the guides and reel seat.
I prefer the Sierra for several reasons. I like the tiny bit lighter blank, and it is the only series with a tad bit slower graphite. It has cork on both sections of the split handle. There is roughly a $60 difference in price. One of my friend's ods is the Fury Fr 703SF. He used the $60 savings to pay almost the entire price of a Daiwa Exceler spinning reel. They run $80. So in his mind he got a rod that fishes more like a $200 rod than a $100 rod and a new spinning reel for less than $200. He has already fished some Sencos on it and absolutely was blown away with its sensitivity.
For my wife, I wanted a spinning rod to throw hollow bodied frogs and carolina rigs as well as big jigs. I use a Champion XP DC705C for my frogs. carolina rigs, big jigs. I purchased her a Sierra SA 705SF. I had no choice but to go with the Sierra because that rod did not exist in a Fury or Savvy lines. It is matched up with a fast speed Pflueger Supreme and it is a great combo, but it was a $280 combo.
CybrSlydr reply :
On 4/6/2017 at 7:33 AM, fishnkamp said:I prefer the Sierra for several reasons. I like the tiny bit lighter blank, and it is the only series with a tad bit slower graphite. It has cork on both sections of the split handle. There is roughly a $60 difference in price. One of my friend's ods is the Fury Fr 703SF. He used the $60 savings to pay almost the entire price of a Daiwa Exceler spinning reel. They run $80. So in his mind he got a rod that fishes more like a $200 rod than a $100 rod and a new spinning reel for less than $200. He has already fished some Sencos on it and absolutely was blown away with its sensitivity.
That actually sounds like a great way to go. Get the Fury and spend the difference on a decent reel. I belive you said a 2000-2500 size would suffice.
How's the Fury for trout?
NYBasser reply :
Fury 703 is going to be a tad heavy for trout and panfish. I personally use a Fenwick Elite Tech River Runner for all my ultralight trout, carp, and panfish presentations. Works great.
CybrSlydr reply :
Thanks NYBasser. When I say trout, I feel I should specify steelhead as those are the trout I can fish for in Ohio by heading up to Cleveland. From what I've read, steelhead are pretty strong fish and a heavier rod would be a plus in that regard?
Right now the Fury 7' Med Lt has my eye - lure range of 1/8oz to 1/2oz which actually covers my entire lure range (ned rigs, Senko t-rigged weighted/unweighted, lip/lipless cranks, squarebills, wacky, etc) - I figure I could get away with 3/4oz as well with that, just have to be careful. 7' fits in my car as well.
Hulkster reply :
Im going to suggest another G. Loomis rod here in addition to the ones already mentioned.
the SJR700 GL3 is unbelievable. although it is shorter (5'10) it has a beefy butt section with an ultralight tip (extra fast action that they call 'mag light power') and casts 1/8 jigs and lures a mile even at its shorter length. I have mine paired with a 1000 size shimano Saros reel and it balances perfectly. it is one of my favorite rigs.
greentrout reply :
Be on the water tomorrow morning and one of my set-ups will be a spinning rod rated 1/8 oz. to 1/2 oz.. med. action fast 6 1/2 ft. length 4-12lbs test from BPS Tourney Special got on sale for 30 dollars, year end clean 'em out, normally goes for 50 dollars. The rod rating does matter and is important. Been there done that.
Love it.
BassWhole! reply :
On 4/5/2017 at 6:35 PM, CybrSlydr said:So, I'm thinking of getting a second rod, one that's rated for 1/8oz lures and the like. Mine is currently 1/4-5/8 I believe.
My big concern is being able to cast far enough with such a light lure.
As a land-locked angler, being able to cast a lure far is a priority for me - will getting a rod that is rated for 1/8oz cast a 1/8oz lure as far as my current rod will cast a 1/4oz lure?
If you want to throw small lures far, spinning gear and braid are the best tools.
CybrSlydr reply :
On 4/6/2017 at 9:08 AM, Hulkster said:Im going to suggest another G. Loomis rod here in addition to the ones already mentioned.
the SJR700 GL3 is unbelievable. although it is shorter (5'10) it has a beefy butt section with an ultralight tip (extra fast action that they call 'mag light power') and casts 1/8 jigs and lures a mile even at its shorter length. I have mine paired with a 1000 size shimano Saros reel and it balances perfectly. it is one of my favorite rigs.
Those rods are also almost $100 above my budget of $150 as well. 
That E6X looks tempting though - might be able to bend the budget a bit more - but the E6X would have to be an amazing rod to convince me to get it. If I bought that Fury for $110, that'd give me almost another $80 to spend on a reel vs just the E6X rod.
A rod and reel are a better buy than just a rod and swapping reels.
Hulkster reply :
hmm..the E6X SJR 721S might be right up your alley then. I have not fished it but I love the Loomis Spin Jig tapers.
CybrSlydr reply :
On 4/6/2017 at 10:47 AM, Hulkster said:hmm..the E6X SJR 721S might be right up your alley then. I have not fished it but I love the Loomis Spin Jig tapers.
If I'm looking to down-size lures, to 1/8oz, wouldn't I want a longer rod, like the 7', to maximize casting distance?
Hulkster reply :
On 4/6/2017 at 10:50 AM, CybrSlydr said:
If I'm looking to down-size lures, to 1/8oz, wouldn't I want a longer rod, like the 7', to maximize casting distance?
generally yes. however, the Loomis Spin Jig rods (in which ever flavor, E6X, GL3, etc) are very good casters in general, so a 1/8oz bait fits right in the between the min and max of that particular rod, so I would imagine it will still cast very well despite being only a 6 footer.
has anyone fished this particular rod that could give first hand advice?
CybrSlydr reply :
Just like to take this opportunity to thank all of you who contributed to this thread - I appreciate the input!
I think I've narrowed it down to either lucking into one of the Fenwick AETOS or the Dobyns Fury.
Now I need to decide on a reel. lol
CybrSlydr reply :
So, over on TW, I'm looking at this:
Dobyns Fury FR 702SF 7' Medium-Light rod coupled with an Okuma Inspira ISX-20B reel.
With overnight shipping at $10, price is $199.98.
Sounds like a good choice for Ned rigs/light cranks/Senkos/etc?
EDIT: I'm intrigued as the rod weighs around 5oz (I think?... info is sparse) and the reel weighs 6.5oz. This entire setup weighs less than my current reel at 12.8oz (Penn Battle 2 4000) let alone adding on the weight of the rod (Blackout 6'6" MH).
EDIT2: HOLY CRAP. Amazon has the -30 size for $45!!!
https://www.amazon.com/Inspira-Carbon-Frame-Lightweight-Spinning/dp/B015UGNW8A?th=1
Am I seriously reading that right??
CybrSlydr reply :
So I think I've decided to go with the Dobyn's Sierra 702SF rod and the Okuma Inspira 30 reel.
Headed to bed so I'll put this up and give others a chance to think of something else overnight. 
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