does it work or is it just a waste of money ( on mono)
KVD line conditioner, works!
Just like Franks hot sauce............. I put that S on everything!!
On 2/7/2012 at 9:16 PM, LgMouthGambler said:KVD line conditioner, works!
THE BEST STUFF.
On 2/7/2012 at 9:28 PM, quanjig said:Just like Franks hot sauce............. I put that S on everything!!
X2
USE IT!!
KVD line conditioner, works!
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Get some! Kvd L&L
On 2/7/2012 at 9:59 PM, J Francho said:THE BEST STUFF.
I too agree, it is the best,worth the money!
I spilled a bottle of it on my wood floor yesterday. It's more slippery than ice now. I've almost fallen more times than I can count. I hope it wears off quickly.
A little Murphy's will take care of that.
Do you guys see an increase with KVD for casting distance with braid? I bought my first bottle and sprayed it on a new spool of 30lb Suffix 832 on a Curado. I honestly could not tell any differance when it came to distance. I havnt tried it on Mono yet.
The only difference I see with braid is it helps hold the coating and color longer.
On 2/8/2012 at 2:06 AM, J Francho said:A little Murphy's will take care of that.
Thanks ill give it a shot tonight, before I break my arm on my way to my bedroom.
Nice wax job, rookie.
On 2/8/2012 at 1:37 AM, NYBASSIN36 said:I spilled a bottle of it on my wood floor yesterday. It's more slippery than ice now. I've almost fallen more times than I can count. I hope it wears off quickly.
I sprayed some on my car and now it goes 30% farther!
I've always used the KVD L and L but I've heard people saying that an acts as a degreaser and to not spray any reel parts with it. So my question is this true? And also is it best to remove the spool to spray the line or would it be okay to spray the line with the spool still on the reel?
Thanks.
On 2/8/2012 at 11:23 AM, Nkybassfisherman said:I've always used the KVD L and L but I've heard people saying that an acts as a degreaser and to not spray any reel parts with it. So my question is this true?
Put some oil or a lubricant on some small metal parts and spary them. Then tell us what happened.
On 2/8/2012 at 11:23 AM, Nkybassfisherman said:I've always used the KVD L and L but I've heard people saying that an acts as a degreaser and to not spray any reel parts with it. So my question is this true? And also is it best to remove the spool to spray the line or would it be okay to spray the line with the spool still on the reel?
Thanks.
It will not harm your reels! I spray on all my reels the night before a trip. And I soak the reel ( line ) when I spray. I have been useing the KVD line & lure cond. for years and I have never had a problem with the reels or the line!!!! Reel Magic I would never use on my line or reels!
It works, but so does warm water. I used up what had and didn't buy it again. Before my offshore outings I soak my mono spinning spools, then troll my line out, perfect for the day. I'm not against L & L, just like the way I do it.
ive never really noticed any difference using KVD L&L compared to not using it. I will use up the bottle i have, but probably wont be buying anymore, especially since i didnt seem to have many if any line problems at all before ever using it...
As stated, L&L will absolutely not harm your reels as it is a polymer based product. Other line conditioners are silicone based and can cause problems. The anti-corrosion properties in L&L are beneficial to your reel and any other fishing related items. I have found L&L to work very well on flourocarbon. Most flouro. is fairly stiff and starts coiling after being on a reel for a short period of time. L&L softens my flouro., making it much more manageable and allows me to use it longer. With the cost of flouro., that's a big help. These same properties also help with the manageability of any line used on a spinning reel.
On 2/8/2012 at 10:37 PM, NitroZ9 said:As stated, L&L will absolutely not harm your reels as it is a polymer based product. Other line conditioners are silicone based and can cause problems. The anti-corrosion properties in L&L are beneficial to your reel and any other fishing related items. I have found L&L to work very well on flourocarbon. Most flouro. is fairly stiff and starts coiling after being on a reel for a short period of time. L&L softens my flouro., making it much more manageable and allows me to use it longer. With the cost of flouro., that's a big help. These same properties also help with the manageability of any line used on a spinning reel.
Yep, I just want to add one more thing! I have done seminars at Bass pro and I take two bait cast reels, of the same kind ( Citca's )of reel and same line and lb. test. I show the people both reels and the memory of both lines,I now spray one reel with the KVD L & L cond. and one hour later the memory of the sprayed reel is gone!! It does work!!!
looks like i will get some when i go to bps for the spring sale on my shoppin spree thanks
You can save yourself $4 per bottle if you go to the mfg. site and buy the "cosmetic-special". Nothing wrong with the product. Labels have blemishes.
http://cleverinnovations.net/details/category/4/prodid/83/
Shortbasser
On 2/8/2012 at 12:22 PM, eyedabassman said:It will not harm your reels! I spray on all my reels the night before a trip. And I soak the reel ( line ) when I spray. I have been useing the KVD line & lure cond. for years and I have never had a problem with the reels or the line!!!! Reel Magic I would never use on my line or reels!
What's wrong with Reel Magic?
On 2/9/2012 at 1:57 PM, 38 Super Fan said:What's wrong with Reel Magic?
Line & Lure is polymer based and does not contain oil or solvents. It actually bonds to the line and will not wash off like the other products. It can only be removed by friction. Products that contain oil and solvents can get into the inner workings of your reels and attract dirt.
On 2/9/2012 at 1:57 PM, 38 Super Fan said:What's wrong with Reel Magic?
http://www.lineandlure.com/media/videos/play/4/Reel_Magic_Will_It_Burn
On 2/9/2012 at 9:55 PM, NitroZ9 said:Line & Lure is polymer based and does not contain oil or solvents. It actually bonds to the line and will not wash off like the other products. It can only be removed by friction. Products that contain oil and solvents can get into the inner workings of your reels and attract dirt.
How does it actually get inside of your reel, and even if it did, isn't your reel already full of lube that could attract dust and dirt?
On 2/9/2012 at 10:13 PM, J Francho said:http://www.lineandlu...ic_Will_It_Burn
Not sure how much stock I'd put in what a company says about a competitor, my can of real magic plainly reads, "danger, extremely flammable".
You can use whatever you want, but the KVD L&L product is far superior. I was a Real Magic user for years, one try of KVD L&L and I was sold.
I use both but one thing on the L&L that I dont like is the spray pattern it is too dispersed need to be more concentrated. I want it to go where it is pointed not all over the place.
This spray is from 3inches away
nothing in the center
I've actually noticed some vartiability in this department....needless to say, I have a preferred bottle that I reuse the nozzle off. You want to look for the ridged cap
I used braid for the first time, and although I absolutely love it, I noticed a considerable reduction in my casting distance, which appears to be happending because the line digs into itself on the reel (like velcro lightly sticking to the line still on the reel). I had read lots of testimonials about line conditioner, but I was very skeptical. I figured if I was going to spend $8, I should make sure it works before making the same mistake twice.
So I took my reel, braid, and a 1/2 ounce spinnerbait out at a bank on a lake where I regularly fish, and tried to hit my target. I gave it every ounce of stregnth I could, but each time I fell about two feet short of my target on the other side of the cove. I tried this again with the same reel, line and lure on three different rods of varying sizes and stiffness. I tried casting high, low, and every angle in betwee, and each time with the same result: I always hit about 2 feet short of my target.
Then I sprayed about 3 to 4 pumps on Real Magic on the braid and let it sit for 12 hours as I had read online. I went back to the same spot the next morning, and the exact same this happened; fell about 2 feet short of my target. So I went back home, tied the line to a post, pulled all of the line out, and sprayed about 15 pumps on the spool as I reeled the line back in. I went back to the same spot, and same result.
This stuff may work well for mono, and possibly flouro, but it does absolutely nothing for braid in terms of improved casting distance.
I'm going to try the same thing with some 17# flouro I just put on a line and see if there is any difference. I'll post on update with the results.
KVD L and L ONLY!!! Increases casting distance and also helps prevent memory.
Well, I went out to my spot yesterday afternoon and again this morning to try the same test on 17# BPS fluorocarbon, but the wind has been consistently blowing at 13+ mph, so I'll have to wait for another time. Unless something really magical happens, this will be my one and only purchase of Real Magic. I may give KVD L&L conditioner a try on a future setup.....maybe.
KVD works. You'll probably only really notice a difference with heavier lines, like 12lb+ flouro's and mono's. I use it constantly for my flouro and 15lb mono rods. It makes a huge difference, but I personally don't have a lot of problems with lighter lines as it is, so I quit using it on them so I can stretch this bottle out to be used on my baitcasters.
More than likely, anyone who says they didn't notice a difference isn't using heavy lines, or flouro at all.
Let me give you a tip I learned.
L & L works much better if you use it on virgin line, especially floro.
I used some line butter that I was given and then used L & L before my next trip 2 weeks later, I took it all off then reapplied.
Mike