Alphas It'o oops...updated 2024
skunked_again reply :
cleaning said reel, giving the frame a bath in the same cleaner my Fuego and Sol was in and got this.......
any ideas on this heavily tarnished frame/sideplate?
Hooligan reply :
What did you soak it in? It almost looks like saline corrosion on magnesium.
skunked_again reply :
QuoteWhat did you soak it in? It almost looks like saline corrosion on magnesium.
a citrus type cleaner made for cleaning dry food packaging machines.
Finnz922 reply :
it looks like you may have to buy a new frame. the acidity of your cleaner may have tarnished that beyond repair. that suck dude.
Hooligan reply :
I'd guess that the cleaner has magnesium chloride in it, which is fairly common in citrus oil based cleaners. I don't think there's any reversing the effect.
skunked_again reply :
i dont think the frame needs to be replaced. i can have the frame glass blasted worst case scenario.
Hooligan reply :
Oh I'd completely agree that there's no need in replacing the frame. I'd worry about media blasting, though. Tolerances are pretty tight and no matter what micron you get down to you're going to be removing material. If it will go back together correctly and everything fits, I'd almost say let it be.
KU_Bassmaster. reply :
QuoteIf it will go back together correctly and everything fits, I'd almost say let it be.
One of kind for sure 
0119 reply :
Somebody was just talking about this on another thread. Citrus based cleaners are killer to aluminum and anodization. The manufacturers warn you against it. Something I learned after ruining my wifes SUV's rims!
.ghoti. reply :
If you have a Dremel, try a felt wheel and some ultra fine polishing compound, and just see what happens.
Try it on the under side of the reel foot first.
Who knows, you may have just discovered a new finish for a reel with a problematic lack of finish
SJex reply :
Paint it.
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
I think ghotti's got the right idea. I doubt the frame is structurally compromised. I wouldn't blast or paint for fear of changing tolerances.
.RM. reply :
Quotecleaning said reel, giving the frame a bath in the same cleaner my Fuego and Sol was in and got this.......any ideas on this heavily tarnished frame/sideplate?
Just take your oil and a small brush.
Brush a small amount of oil onto the frame.
Let it sit a while, then wipe off.
You will be surprised at the out come......
Tight Lines!
J Francho reply :
Wow, "send it to a pro" never sounded more important.
BigMoneyGrip reply :
If the frame is Al, some cleaners will turn it black due to the copper in the Al. If this is the case, I have a solution that will clean it back to the Al. I use this when I anodize. Some grades of Al have a very high content of Cu. This has to be cleaned before you anodize it. PM me for more info.
If the frame is Mg, I'm not sure what to do. I definitely would not blast it with anything. Too many things to go wrong.
Best of luck, I know it would make me sick.
Nibbles reply :
I'm pretty sure the Alphas Ito frame is made from some kind of aluminum alloy.
ROCbass reply :
QuoteWow, "send it to a pro" never sounded more important.
Your point is well taken, especially in this case, but still, I'm curious as to who you would consider to be a pro, and how that distinction is made. For example, other than factory service techs who are trained on their specific company's reels, are there any training classes you can take or certifications you can get in reel repair, or is someone a pro once they've cleaned a few reels and decided that they're good enough to see if they can get people to pay them to do it? To put it another way, who would you trust more, someone with years of experience but no formal training, or someone fresh out of "reel cleaning school," if there is such a thing, who has only ever serviced a handful of reels?
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
I'd suggest choosing a reel repair shop the same way you'd choose a contractor or auto mechanic or anything else. Ask questions and check references, word of mouth, reviews etc. There are several forum members who post here regularly that will all get high praise from people they have provided service to.
Locked reply :
I know that they sandblast with a lot of different media nowadays to protect the metal. I know they use baking soda, and even walnut shells to protect softer metals. You can always talk to some media blasting shops in your area to see what they can do for you.
J Francho reply :
There is no "school." I'd' trust Mike (DVT) with my reels. I'd trust .RM. with my reels. Anyone else that I'd trust with my gear only does it as a hobby.
J Francho reply :
QuoteI know that they sandblast with a lot of different media nowadays to protect the metal. I know they use baking soda, and even walnut shells to protect softer metals. You can always talk to some media blasting shops in your area to see what they can do for you.
Just do what .RM. said, and report back. Water droplets stain the frame of that particular reel, so its never perfect anyway. Oiling the metal is the only cure.
J Francho reply :
And as far as "pro" goes.....if I did that to a reel, you would be darn sure I'd be sourcing a replacement for that reel. Period.
"Pro" sometimes means more than adequate skills.
Ima Bass Ninja reply :
Wow 3 post in a row...what you tryin to get your post count up?? ;D ;D ;D....Just messin
Raul reply :
Well, the frame is aluminum alloy, I 'd start by doing what Ghoti suggested, if that don 't work, well, Calfish can do a pretty nice job reapainting that AFU frame.
von reply :
I've sand blasted a reel frame before. An old BPS Rick Clunn. I don't know how tight the tolerances are, on it, but everything went back together just fine.
I use to work as a powder coater, the only blast media we used was aluminum oxide. As long as you don't hold the nozzle in one spot for a long period of time, you'll be fine.
skunked_again reply :
QuoteWow, "send it to a pro" never sounded more important.
completely debatable.
skunked_again reply :
QuoteQuotecleaning said reel, giving the frame a bath in the same cleaner my Fuego and Sol was in and got this.......any ideas on this heavily tarnished frame/sideplate?
Just take your oil and a small brush.
Brush a small amount of oil onto the frame.
Let it sit a while, then wipe off.
You will be surprised at the out come......
Tight Lines!
after talking to a few pros, transmission fluid was suggested. glass blasting is still an option if i cared what the reel looked like.
J Francho reply :
So, when you hold your ruined ITO, you think the DIY approach was the way to go? I have no issue with guys learning and will even help them out as best as I can, but dude you hosed that thing.
Have you oiled the thing, yet? See if that works. It'll probably get it close. I'd take a crack at it, but will give DVT his right to 1st refusal.
skunked_again reply :
QuoteSo, when you hold your ruined ITO, you think the DIY approach was the way to go? I have no issue with guys learning and will even help them out as best as I can, but dude you hosed that thing.Have you oiled the thing, yet? See if that works. It'll probably get it close. I'd take a crack at it, but will give DVT his right to 1st refusal.
is it ruined? no. is it hosed? no. did i create more work? yes. is it anything more than that? no.
now, when i try to remove a handle with a beat up flat blade screw driver and a sledge hammer you can break out the terms hosed and ruined.
J Francho reply :
Good luck.
skunked_again reply :
QuoteGood luck.
thanks.
edit: it wouldnt be the worst idea to have a forum for reel service and up-grades. im sure im not the only one who wouldnt mind seeing that.
islandbass reply :
QuoteQuotecleaning said reel, giving the frame a bath in the same cleaner my Fuego and Sol was in and got this.......any ideas on this heavily tarnished frame/sideplate?
Just take your oil and a small brush.
Brush a small amount of oil onto the frame.
Let it sit a while, then wipe off.
You will be surprised at the out come......
Tight Lines!
x2. Unless you have a super finesse touch with the dremel, I wouldn't try it. At least I know I don't.
skunked_again reply :
10 mins of work on the sideplate and i have this.
thanks for the suggestions.
J Francho reply :
Nice job!
SPEEDBEAD. reply :
Quote10 mins of work on the sideplate and i have this.thanks for the suggestions.
Result of the PM I sent you?
If so, I'll let him know. I dont have the email address.
skunked_again reply :
QuoteQuote10 mins of work on the sideplate and i have this.thanks for the suggestions.
Result of the PM I sent you?
If so, I'll let him know. I dont have the email address.
yes sir!
i went overboard on the frame but i was bored and it was snowing. vinyl low speed brushes are where its at to start then i switched to a felt pad.
id also like to thank the young man that cheered me up by trying to trade an old Quantum for the Ito pre-polished......
SPEEDBEAD. reply :
Glad to hear. He'll be happy he could help, even from the BR grave. ;D
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