Why I chose Daiwa Tatula Type R over Shimano Curado 2024
adrenalizd reply :
I know that there are a lot of people out there like myself and this is why I made this post. Many are wanting to finally move up and get some decent fishing equipment but have no idea what to get or where to start.
I spent hundreds, actually thousands of hours researching before I bought my equipment. I visited all of the forums, read the posts, watched the reviews and every youtube video I could find. I went to several stores and paired several reels with several rods to see how they felt. I even borrowed each reel and rod from various friends so that I could try them out on the water.
So after all of this, what did I learn? Which one was better?
Comfort: I have been using cheap reels for my entire life. In my hands I could tell they were a different size but neither felt better than the other to me. I have large hands so the small difference in size meant nothing to me.
Which one flipped, pitched and casted better? Neither. I was able to adjust the brakes and each one performed flawlessly, especially when compared to what I have been used to. Yes I could tell a huge difference between my $25 combo reels and the Tatula and the Curado, but I could tell no real difference between the Tatula and Curado themselves. I am sure that there are people that fish 250 plus days a year that can tell a difference but for an average fisherman wanting to move up in their equipment, I highly doubt you will find a difference in performance.
How about dependability? Now I have not personally owned them long enough to tell personally, I have read every forum that I could find that has these two reels in their posts. My conclusion: They are both wonderfully reliable with great customer support and will last you a lifetime if taken care of.
Looks: This is the biggest difference I could find between the two. This all comes down to personal preference, as they are both beautiful reels.
So why did I choose the Tatula over the Curado? It wasn't features, as they are both packed. It was't performance as they are both evenly matched. It wasn't brand loyalty, before this purchase my best reels were Abu Garcias.
So why did I choose the Tatulas? I bought three, two 8.1:1's and a 6:3.1.
Simple... Price. I found the Tatulas on sale for $109.95 each. I was able to purchase three Tatulas for less than two of the Curados. Had the Curados been the less expensive reel then they would have been my choice. So in my opinion if anyone is looking at these two reels go for the one that you like the way it looks better or for which one costs less, as they are pretty much evenly matched. If your skill level is great enough that you can tell a huge difference between the two then you are probably not reading forums looking to see which reel you should buy as you probably already know.
S. Sass reply :
In this discussion Lew's wasn't even mentioned? Considering Lew's midrange reels are dead in their wheelhouse I find the absence of them in your decision odd or incomplete.
Did you compare the Lew's offerings? If so how did you eliminate it and keep the Tatula?
Just curious
J Francho reply :
Because there's Daiwa and Shimano, and then there's everyone else.
Raul reply :
On 9/21/2016 at 3:26 AM, J Francho said:Because there's Daiwa and Shimano, and then there's everyone else.
Pretty much says everything that needs to be said. 
Wanna know why I chose a TDZ over a Calais 100A ?
Because the Calais kicks butt and the TDZ kicks butt twice. 
Turkey sandwich reply :
While I've never owned a Daiwa reel, I own several Chronarchs purchased for around $180-200. I also own a Lews SS BBB1 that I bought for around $160. I actually really like the Lews, but it is nowhere near as manageable as the Chronarchs and at times a pain in the ass when the wind does silly things. Even in the midrange category, Shimano's Curados and Chronarchs are a pleasure to fish and I would take them over the Lews I've fished any day.
adrenalizd reply :
I don't know anyone that has a Lews that I was able to try out. I saw a couple in the stores, but had no way to actually try it out.
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
On 9/21/2016 at 3:41 AM, Turkey sandwich said:While I've never owned a Daiwa reel, I own several Chronarchs purchased for around $180-200. I also own a Lews SS BBB1 that I bought for around $160. I actually really like the Lews, but it is nowhere near as manageable as the Chronarchs and at times a pain in the ass when the wind does silly things. Even in the midrange category, Shimano's Curados and Chronarchs are a pleasure to fish and I would take them over the Lews I've fished any day.
Same here. my Lose BB1 Pro was a dud even before it dudded out it didnt perform as well as tatula or my curados chronarchs. That said even my tatula rarely gets used just not liking the reel all that much but the price I got it for cant be beat.
Hulkster reply :
I have a Curado 200i PG and love it. its amazing. but it was $240 Canadian. that's how much they go for up here with our crappy dollar and all..
NYBasser reply :
On 9/21/2016 at 1:18 AM, adrenalizd said:Simple... Price. I found the Tatulas on sale for $109.95 each. I was able to purchase three Tatulas for less than two of the Curados. Had the Curados been the less expensive reel then they would have been my choice. So in my opinion if anyone is looking at these two reels go for the one that you like the way it looks better or for which one costs less, as they are pretty much evenly matched. If your skill level is great enough that you can tell a huge difference between the two then you are probably not reading forums looking to see which reel you should buy as you probably already know.
If you know where to look, ex: craigslist, the flea market section, other forums, etc. you can easily find Curado 200I's for $120 brand new, or even as low as $85 slightly used. Personally, I'd go with the Curado. Had a friend who had some bad experiences with Daiwa.
adrenalizd reply :
This was a mistake on my part, everything I read compared the Tatula to the Curado e, I didn't know about the I series, so those were the two I was comparing. The e series were all around $200.
fishnkamp reply :
So far I have changed 6 reels to Tatula, Tatula Type Rs and 1 Exceller. Over the last three years I have fished them hard in tidal water for bass and stripers with many big blue and channel cats thrown in. I also fish deep clear lakes in Tennessee for largies, Kentucky spots and huge smallies, l am curious for those that did not like their Tatulas what did you dislike? Was it that you always fish Shimano's. I can see Lews owners finding the larger bodied Tats not as comfortable. If you are used to Lew's smaller frames I think the Tatula CT would fill the bill. I am about to get rid of one Chronarch and several other reels to add a total of 5 more Diawas. These things are workhorses. Personally I fished the Chronarch for two years and found it overpriced and overrated.
adrenalizd reply :
I love the Tatula, I think they are the best at their price range. Such a major improvement from other reels.
Scarborough817 reply :
i personally prefer daiwa over shimano i have a citica i as well as 3 tatulas 2 standard 100 7.3.1 and one type-r 8.1.1 i find that the citica just doesn't cast as well as i would like it to now it may be the rod that it's on but who knows
new2BC4bass reply :
On 9/21/2016 at 8:40 PM, adrenalizd said:I live the Tatula, I think they are the best at their price range. Such a major improvement from other reels.
Hard to argue with that point. I've got 30 Daiwas and the only problems I have had with the new ones were the drag not working on a T3 1016 and an Alphas SV105 backlashing and not getting good casting distance. Removing the plastic part under the spool tension knob (and re-inserting it) on the T3 cured that problem. A good cleaning and tune up solved the problem with the SV.
Never had to deal with Daiwa's customer service, but pretty sure they would treat you right. Daiwa didn't get to be a major player by not taking care of their customers.
WRB reply :
One method to gage a reels real worth is resale value.
Tom
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
He has ABU Garcia reels so he knows what lews brings to the table whether he realizes it or not.
DubyaDee reply :
I saw this long post and was excited to read about what reel 'spoke' to you and earned it's right onto your rod. Then I read that you found a deal on one so decided on it....oh well. You should put this in the deals thread. Congrats on saving a few dollars! Hope the reel does everything you expect it to.
Catt reply :
If they didn't make Shimano I would use Daiwa 
WRB reply :
Daiwa's Luna isn't equal to Shimano's Calcutta, can't say that about the low profile reels, both are good and can't go wrong with either, I use both.
Tom
Big Bait Fishing reply :
On 9/22/2016 at 3:30 AM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:He has ABU Garcia reels so he knows what lews brings to the table whether he realizes it or not.
i don't know about that , i think the ACB brake sytstem is a lot better than Abu's
the reels are smaller making them palm better and alot of the reels come with better , longer handles .
Big Bait Fishing reply :
On 9/22/2016 at 6:07 AM, WRB said:Daiwa's Luna isn't equal to Shimano's Calcutta, can't say that about the low profile reels, both are good and can't go wrong with either, I use both.
Tom
maybe not the Luna , but this one is ..
then again , i will never use a round reel as i prefer low profile bait casters ..
NoahWatts reply :
I have several Lews reels but I'm a Daiwa guy. Owned a few shimano's for me it comes down to the breaking system. I prefer magnetic over centrifugal
Further North reply :
I've got a couple of Shimanos...a couple Daiwas...several Quantums...a few Pfluger (all spinning) and a bunch of Abu Garcias...which covers the Lew's...
Toss in a couple Nautilus, a dozen Lamson, 3 or 4 Orvis, and I begin to realize that they're all good at the price they were purchased and if I
- Understand what they're for and use them that way, and
- Take care of them
I'll see value in all of them.
I've never been one to get caught up in the Ford/Chevy/Toyota wars. I don't get it why someone else's choice can ever be a problem to me... ¯_(ツ)_/¯
fishnkamp reply :
If any of you Shimano guys are interested I just listed a Chronarch 200E7 ( 7-1 gear ratio) for sale on the Flea Market forum. Check here if you are looking for one.
Catt reply :
I have a friend who has been in the reel repair business since the mid 60 & in his opinion Shimano & Daiwa are #1 & #2 for reliability.
I started with Shimano & Daiwa has shown me no reason to change.
My first was a Bantam 100EX with rosewood handle
Solid as an anvil, versatile as a pair of ChannelLocks, dependable as a 30/30!
J Francho reply :
I've worked on a few of those old Bantams. Really cool reels. Almost watch-like in precision.
timsford reply :
On 9/22/2016 at 6:45 AM, Big Bait Fishing said:i don't know about that , i think the ACB brake sytstem is a lot better than Abu's
the reels are smaller making them palm better and alot of the reels come with better , longer handles .
The reels may be smaller but Lew's isn't the first or only one with an externally adjustable, infintely variable centrifugal braking system. The Lew's acb system is just like the ivcb system Abu has used for years on some reels, and quantum has had the ACS system for a long time as well. And longer handles aren't necessarily better. It depends on what the user prefers. A longer handle should give you more leverage in theory, but it also makes your handle travel farther to make the same handle rotation so you actually end up feeling farther with a longer handle like if you swapped to a lower gear reel and had to reel more turns of the handle retrieve your bait. Shimano and daiwa make their own reels in their own factories. Everyone else pays doyo or banax to make reels that are all basically the same with interchangeable parts across many brands. I'll stick with daiwa and shimano because they make reels that last, and both introduce and stay on the forefront of most new reel technology. And if you need a part, you have a much better chance of getting one, since they don't have 25 reels that all get redesigned and renamed every year, making it nearly impossible to get parts in a couple years, but that still leverage the same features and technology so even though they are "new" reels, there's nothing new or innovative unless you count a hook hanger or line reminder on your reel
Big Bait Fishing reply :
On 9/23/2016 at 9:54 PM, timsford said:The reels may be smaller but Lew's isn't the first or only one with an externally adjustable, infintely variable centrifugal braking system. The Lew's acb system is just like the ivcb system Abu has used for years on some reels, and quantum has had the ACS system for a long time as well. And longer handles aren't necessarily better. It depends on what the user prefers. A longer handle should give you more leverage in theory, but it also makes your handle travel farther to make the same handle rotation so you actually end up feeling farther with a longer handle like if you swapped to a lower gear reel and had to reel more turns of the handle retrieve your bait. Shimano and daiwa make their own reels in their own factories. Everyone else pays doyo or banax to make reels that are all basically the same with interchangeable parts across many brands. I'll stick with daiwa and shimano because they make reels that last, and both introduce and stay on the forefront of most new reel technology. And if you need a part, you have a much better chance of getting one, since they don't have 25 reels that all get redesigned and renamed every year, making it nearly impossible to get parts in a couple years, but that still leverage the same features and technology so even though they are "new" reels, there's nothing new or innovative unless you count a hook hanger or line reminder on your reel
the thing that rings true to what you're saying is that it all user's preference !
daiwa reels never felt comfortable in hand & shimano's customer service makes me never want to buy their products , ever . i used to use all Abu reels but made the switch to Lew's reels and i must say i feel no need to go elsewhere .
J Francho reply :
Sure it's preference, but the fact remains, Shimano and Daiwa make their own reels. Pretty much everyone else in the bass fishing world has one of two companies make their reels. Lew's isn't a bad choice, though in terms of support after the sale. You will get a person if you call them, and they are usually pretty helpful. Same goes for Daiwa and Shimano. In fact, I'm on a first name basis with many there. Other companies have an automated support system. Quantum's is remarkably streamlined via their website, especially if you need replacement parts. I've also had good dealings with Okuma and Pinnacle.
Fisher-O-men reply :
On 9/22/2016 at 3:30 AM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:He has ABU Garcia reels so he knows what lews brings to the table whether he realizes it or not.
Wait a minute, Abu makes Lews? Who knew? Evidently everyone except me!
On 9/24/2016 at 12:28 AM, J Francho said:Sure it's preference, but the fact remains, Shimano and Daiwa make their own reels. Pretty much everyone else in the bass fishing world has one of two companies make their reels. Lew's isn't a bad choice, though in terms of support after the sale. You will get a person if you call them, and they are usually pretty helpful. Same goes for Daiwa and Shimano. In fact, I'm on a first name basis with many there. Other companies have an automated support system. Quantum's is remarkably streamlined via their website, especially if you need replacement parts. I've also had good dealings with Okuma and Pinnacle.
Ever thought about running for President?
hoosierbass07 reply :
I'm a Shimano fan but I bought my first Lews baitcaster reel a month or so ago and that thing is starting to change my hate towards baitcasters to love for them. I got it on a *** Black rod and that thing casts nice with hardly any backlashes. Lews, at least the one I have, is changing my mind on baitcasters. Next up, I want a Daiwa.
J Francho reply :
On 9/24/2016 at 1:33 AM, Fisher-O-men said:Ever thought about running for President?
The devil is in the details I left out. You can also read between the lines. Perhaps some company needs an automated system for repair parts....otherwise the traffic would bottleneck, lol.
But yeah, I'm trying to be impartial and fair. The biased opinion is further up in the thread.
Columbia Craw reply :
On 9/23/2016 at 7:49 PM, Catt said:I have a friend who has been in the reel repair business since the mid 60 & in his opinion Shimano & Daiwa are #1 & #2 for reliability.
I started with Shimano & Daiwa has shown me no reason to change.
My first was a Bantam 100EX with rosewood handle
Solid as an anvil, versatile as a pair of ChannelLocks, dependable as a 30/30!
This was THE reel in the day. You could get them on sale for about 45 bucks. Matched with a Fenwick Lunker Stik 555 and a Mann's jelly worm. Oh the memories.
Further North reply :
There's a lot to be said for be loyal to a brand because they've treated you well over the years...but there's a downside as well: You might miss out on a genuinely innovative new technology, superior value or change in business practices that changes how a company does business that benefits their customers.
Lotta folks missed the boat in the 70s by being loyal to Chevy/Ford/Chrysler...and then a lotta other folks missed the boat in 2000s when the tide turned back the other way and American brands were/are better deals for the same quality....
Refusing to consider a company based on something that happened years ago limits your choices...that's OK if it works for you...but poisoning others really isn't right.
I had a Chevy Tahoe that was the biggest POS you can imagine back in the very early 2000s...dunno if it was built on a Monday or early AM on a Thursday after the GM Wednesday night bowling league won the championship...but it had serious problems with every major system inside 18 months of the day I bought it. Does that mean I disregard all the positive experiences of thousands of other GM owners? Heck no. That'd be dumb, IMO.
I think it's far, far more important that you try different things and buy what you like that works best - for you - in your application than to stay with one brand...unless that's what works for you...then go for it.
Catt reply :
Some of us are lucky in that we get to test drive new products.
I'm currently testing a 2017 Shimano Citica, a 2016 Lew's America Hero, & a 2016 Academy H20 Maxim, & a 2016 Mr. Crappie® Slab Daddy® Baitcast Reel
Further North reply :
On 9/24/2016 at 11:44 AM, Catt said:Some of us are lucky in that we get to test drive new products.
I'm currently testing a 2017 Shimano Citica, a 2016 Lew's America Hero, & a 2016 Academy H20 Maxim, & a 2016 Mr. Crappie® Slab Daddy® Baitcast Reel
That'd be fun.
I got to test drive an HP Scitex 7600 a few years ago....
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