Looking for input for specific shaky head set-up. I am a novice with this technique, but after a particularly slow summer and fall, I want to learn. What rod, reel and line combo has worked for you? Also, jig head and worm preferences are more than welcome. Thanks in advance for your help.
Loomis Shakey Head rod. SHR821S. Little lighter for the 1/16th heads, but will handle the heavier heads.. (I only fish 1/16th and 1/8th heads)
Pflueger Supreme 8030.
Picasso, and Owner heads. Intend to try the Strike King, or Bite Me heads.
Any soft strait worm. I really like the Strike King finesse worms made from Elaztech.
Also like the good old Zoom trick worm
6lb Yo-Zuri Hybrid.
Works for me.
Rod- Falcon Bucoo 7' M
Reel- Quantum Kinetic PT
Line- 8lb Vicous Fluoro
Worm- Owner shaky head.
Jigs- They're cheap. Try a bunch until you find one you like.
i like a sensitive, 6'6" - 7', M or ML, spinning rod with an XF action. 2500 size reel.
current setup is a bsr852 glx with shimano stradic
if i buy a dedicated shakey rod, i'll get the shr822s. i've heard great reviews on them...
i have good luck with straight tailed worms (roboworms,zoom trick,zoom finesse). you can pretty much put anything on a shakey jig.
i use a shimano cumara(Cus72M) with a shimano sehara 2500 spinning reel. and i put #12 bass pro flurocarbon on it and this setup is amazing.
also buy a pack of the megastrike shakey2 shakeyheads. and for the worms get strike king 3x finese worms.
Loomis BSR 852 GLX
Shimano Stradic 2500MgFB
I use 1/8, 3/16, and even 1/4 oz heads: Spot Remover and Picasso Shakedown.
Zoom trick worms and ***: Finesse, Floater, and Taper Tail.
St. Croix Legend Tournament 6'8" MXF
Pflueger Supreme XT size 30
Using Pline CXX 8#, but will be trying out Yo-Zuri Hybrid Ultra Soft this year
Owner or Picasso jigs
I haven't had a single plastic not work. Try whatever you own. Some of my best fishing last year was using a Northland Sweet Beaver imitation. As far as straight tail worms, I like Roboworms and Reaction Innovations.
Give these a try:
http://www.megastrike.com/megastrike_e2_shakeyhead_details.htm#video
The Rage Tail Lobster and GYCB Kut Tail
both stand up well in the Shake2 jig head.
8-)
I like Spot Remover jigs and Zoom trickworms.
I currently use a Pflueger 6730 President reel, 8# trilene XL (I will also try YoZuri Hybrid this year) and a BPS Extreme rod 6'6" MF. The GLoomis Shakyhead rod is very nice if you have the budget.
I see Spot Removers, Shake2, and other stand up jig heads sort of separate from shaky head. They both work, and the same rig applies. For shaky heads, I like the Bagley heads. Any long, medium power, moderate to mod. fast action spinning rod will work for baits up to 3/8 oz. I like 15# Power Pro braid, with a 6-10# P-Line CFX fluorocarbon leader.
I use the Quantum Superlite 6'10" MH rod with a sahara 2500 and either 8lb Sunline Sniper FC or 11lb Sunline Defier (awesome line!). 1/8oz Owner head and Zoom Finesse or Trickworm. I have caught some fish on the Speed Craw as well.
I understand your question, but I digress.
Shaky worming is a deadly technique for taking passive bass,
but the emphasis is wrongly placed on the jig, when it should be placed on the worm.
If the worm is made of sinking or neutrally buoyant plastic (same weight as water),
even on a "flat-bottomed" jig, the lure will ultimately fall-over and the worm will lie on the bottom.
On the other hand, when you select a worm consisting of highly buoyant plastic,
the focus is no longer on the jig. Even if the jig is lying on its side,
the worm tail will still remain brazenly upright, which also makes it harder for the jig to fall over.
The "worm" is the main man, and asking the jig to work the worm,
is like asking the tail to shake the dog. A highly buoyant worm can be shaken or twitched
on ANY jighead: an arkie head, a shaky jig, a football jig, a ballhead jig, you name it.
Roger
QuoteOn the other hand, when you select a worm consisting of highly buoyant plastic,the focus is no longer on the jig.
Roboworms....
QuoteQuoteOn the other hand, when you select a worm consisting of highly buoyant plastic,the focus is no longer on the jig.
Roboworms....
Absolutely!
To which I might add the Strike King 3x Finesse worm & Gambler Big Stick
Roger
Rod, reel, & line suggestion for shakey heading ? ....... uhhhhh ..... that would depend on how much the shakey head weights and how much the bait to be riggged weights so I might start anywhere from UL to H rod, from 6 lbs to 14 lbs line ( and maybe even 17 ) depending upon cover density and type and reel either baitcasting or spinning depending upon what mood I am.
i use a Dobyns 702 spinning rod, with 20 lb sufix braid, and a fluro leader,usually 6 lb, but I'll switch to 8 or 10 if need be. i have a Fuego 2500 reel on it. there are lots of good "shakey heads" but i like the spot remover or the owners best, and most times in 1/8 or 3/16th. for worms i use robos, or zooms' trick worms. it is a great technique when you know you are on fish, near or very near the bottom, and they are not hittin some more active type presentations. sometimes shakey works, and sometimes drop shot works!
I have two setups that I use for shakey heads, one baitcasting and one spinning.
Baitcasting
Rod - 7'M Daiwa Zillion
Reel - Daiwa Alphas 103
Line - 10lb P-Line Floro-clear
Spinning
Rod - 7'M Damiki Dark Angel
Reel - 2500 Shimano Stradic CI4
Line - 8lb P-Line Floro-clear
As for the jig head I usually use Arkie Finesse jigs that you can get at Wal-Mart.
Worm - *** Finesse Worm, Zoom Finese & Trick Worm, Roboworms, Netbait Finesse Worms....just about any soft plastic.
QuoteRod, reel, & line suggestion for shakey heading ? ....... uhhhhh ..... that would depend on how much the shakey head weights and how much the bait to be riggged weights so I might start anywhere from UL to H rod, from 6 lbs to 14 lbs line ( and maybe even 17 ) depending upon cover density and type and reel either baitcasting or spinning depending upon what mood I am.
If the fish are active enough to eat a 'shakey head' that is heavy enough to warrant a H rod, I'll fish with something much more efficient.
At least up here, I'll only go up to 1/8 oz.
In one year, I went from never fishing a Shakyhead to it being my goto technique. Here is what I have found works best for me
Rod: G Loomis GLX SHR822S
Reel: Pflueger Supreme 8035
Line: 8 lb. XPS or Trilene 100% Fluorocarbon
Jig Head: Picasso
Worm: Big Bite Squirrel Tail Worm (with the Roboworm coming in a close second)
(Disclaimer: these preferences are based on my experience only and this post is not intended to knock any other brand)
"something much more efficient"
What does that mean?
Quote"something much more efficient"What does that mean?
Is that a serious question? :
Something that covers water more quickly and makes better use of time on the water-when fish are active enough to chase. Which they would be if eating a shakey head heavier enough to be using a H power rod.
Well, that seems silly to me. I'm never trying to
"cover a lot of water" with a shaky head! This is
a presentation to use once you found 'em.
There are many reasons for a heavier weight and
bigger presentations. The most obvious are depth
and current. I prefer the heavier weighted jig head
sometimes so I can jiggle the bait without moving
the jig. Casting distance is another issue, especially
if combined with wind.
For light presentations:
St. Croix ES70MF/ Stella 2500FD/ Yo-Zuri Hybrid #6/ 1/4 or 3/8 oz Shake2 jig head.
For a bigger presentation:
G. Loomis MBR842C/ Core 50MG7/ Hybrid #12 and 1/2 oz Shake2.
8-)
Above 3/8 oz., I just use a football jig.
G Loomis GLX SHR822S. The Mac Daddy shaky head rod is where you need to start.
QuoteWell, that seems silly to me. I'm never trying to"cover a lot of water" with a shaky head! This is
a presentation to use once you found 'em.
8-)
I must have missed something. Isn't that what I said? ;D
QuoteG Loomis GLX SHR822S. The Mac Daddy shaky head rod is where you need to start.
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QuoteQuoteWell, that seems silly to me. I'm never trying to"cover a lot of water" with a shaky head! This is
a presentation to use once you found 'em.
8-)
I must have missed something. Isn't that what I said? ;D
Not exactly....size isn't always a direct link to finesse vs. power techniques. you can use a a heavy jig with just as much finesse as a tiny one, maybe even more so. That said, I still prefer a football to a shaky head in weights over 3/8 oz. , if we're talking about working something across the bottom, stopping, shaking, and using "finesse" to trigger a bite.
Thank you to everyone who responded. I think it's pretty cool that the membership is willing to share their wealth of knowledge and experience. Much to process....but I look forward to it! Thanks, again. O
QuoteThank you to everyone who responded. I think it's pretty cool that the membership is willing to share their wealth of knowledge and experience. Much to process....but I look forward to it! Thanks, again. O
Where at in Indiana are you located?
To expand on JF's post...
You can power fish and finesse fish with shakey heads. I will pitch Spot Removers with Paca Craws and Beavers on them to wood and fish them very quick with a heavy action rod and 50 pound braid. I also power fish with a shakey head with a Robo on it and 8 pound flouro. I will cast or skip it near or under a dock, let it drop, move it about a foot, burn it back and repeat. There is no bait you can only finesse fish or only powerfish in my book.
QuoteQuoteRod, reel, & line suggestion for shakey heading ? ....... uhhhhh ..... that would depend on how much the shakey head weights and how much the bait to be riggged weights so I might start anywhere from UL to H rod, from 6 lbs to 14 lbs line ( and maybe even 17 ) depending upon cover density and type and reel either baitcasting or spinning depending upon what mood I am.If the fish are active enough to eat a 'shakey head' that is heavy enough to warrant a H rod, I'll fish with something much more efficient.
At least up here, I'll only go up to 1/8 oz.
X2
If they are even remotely active enough to take anything else I am throwing a texas rig or a jig into the heavier cover on a baitcaster. I am not a big finesse guy, but if I have to I am going very small with a robo worm on a spot remover. I currently have a 6'6" berkley lightning spinning rod with a penn spinning reel. I am crossing my fingers to be able to get a 6'9" medium action Kistler LTA soon though.
QuoteQuoteThank you to everyone who responded. I think it's pretty cool that the membership is willing to share their wealth of knowledge and experience. Much to process....but I look forward to it! Thanks, again. OWhere at in Indiana are you located?
Northwest....Valpo area. Do most of my fishing, though in SW MI...Sister Lakes region.
For me....
Rod- St. Croix LTB 6'8" MXF
Reel- Shimano Sedona 2500
Line- 8lb Seaguar Red Lable
Worm-Berkley Shakey Worm, Berkley Hand-poured or Zoom Trick Worm
Jigs- 3/32 oz. Bite-Me
QuoteQuoteQuoteThank you to everyone who responded. I think it's pretty cool that the membership is willing to share their wealth of knowledge and experience. Much to process....but I look forward to it! Thanks, again. OWhere at in Indiana are you located?
Northwest....Valpo area. Do most of my fishing, though in SW MI...Sister Lakes region.
Your welcome to check out my combo. I don't go over that way anymore, but I could meet you in edwardsburg at Lunkers. Lunkers may have the SHR also. Last time I was there I think they did. About two weeks ago.
QuoteG Loomis GLX SHR822S. The Mac Daddy shaky head rod is where you need to start.
In a previous inquiry you reccommended this rod, I have one on order and am looking forward to trying it this spring along with a Shimano 3000 size Stradic that I will have mounted on it with 8 lb Trilene Floro.
In the past I've done well with R.I. Flirt worm, Zoom Shakey tail and the Roborm Fat Straight tail worms.