Legend Extreme For All Around: Medium Or Medium Light 2024
eagon06 reply :
Hey guys,
Purchasing a new st croix legend extreme and this will be my all purpose spinning rod for a while. I have always fished medium light and heard that st croix run a bit heavy.
Will I be okay ordering a ML rather than a stiffer M? Going with 7' fast action.
Fish the upper Mississippi for largemouth, smallmouth, and walleye. All diff types of fishing...wacky, Texas, lindy, crankbaits, topwater, spinners, jigs, etc...
Just weary of getting a M cuz I hear that its more of a MH with st croix and I enjoy the fight.
What do you guys think? Anyone own something close to this model with the new '13 rods?
Thanks
kschultz76 reply :
What weight lures and line do you want to throw? I have 3 St Croix spinning rods, an Extreme Med Xfast, an LTB MedLight Fast, and an Avid Med Fast. For general purpose as you've described I'd go with the Med power Fast action in a Croix. Their medium fishes lures 3/16-5/8 so it will cover a variety of techniques including lighter presentations, and you'll still feel the fight it by no means is a broomstick. The ML in a Croix I find to be very willowy but not under powered, but it only handles 1/8-3/8 oz lures so it isn't as versatile to me. I'm sure either will be fantastic based on my experience. I think it just comes down to your lure selection.
kschultz76 reply :
Oh you might consider the Legend Elite 6'3" M Xfast. I've heard good feedback about it and it covers 1/8-1/2 oz lures. Just not sure now well the Xfast tip will handle all your presentations. I'm not sure if they make that blank in the Xrtreme.
ww2farmer reply :
I have had ML Croixs in several series..........I wouldn't want them for GP work, the rod length/power/action I find to be best suited for that is their 6'8" M/XF. They make that in the Extreme.
kschultz76 reply :
I agree the 6'8" M XF is a great rod, that's the Xrtreme I have and love it. But I fish primarily soft plastics with it, especially weightless Senkos.
eagon06 reply :
Yeah I noticed the wider lure range with the XF but I troll a lot of cranks for walleye which is what's holding me back on that.
What does gp stand for?
eagon06 reply :
Looking at their site, the 6'10 ml xf throws 1/8 to 1/2
While the 6'10 m xf throws 1/8 to 5/16, why would that be?
iabass8 reply :
the 610mxf would be perfect.
tomustang reply :
Don't worry about the MH feel on a 7'M, the tip is very forgiving and more medium powered. Now if you went down to 6'6 you'll feel it stiffen up more
eagon06 reply :
Well now I'm checking out the XF a bit, but will that hurt me trollin cranks? I use braided line too...
kschultz76 reply :
If you look at the legend tour bass rods on st Croix's site they have a desc of each rod. The 6'10" M Xf is specifically tapered as a shakey head rod that says something about top water as well. The 6'8" M XF is wacky style technique specific. I've got no experience with the 6'-0" m XF but the specs look like it would handle the lures you're looking to throw.
Whatever you land on please post and let us know how you like it. I'm really curious how the new xtremes handle compared to the older versions. They're heavier but wondering if they balance better.
Dwight Hottle reply :
On 8/19/2013 at 11:10 AM, eagon06 said:Well now I'm checking out the XF a bit, but will that hurt me trollin cranks? I use braided line too...
Yes. You really need a moderate action not XF for crankbaits with braid. The only way you could pull off using that rod for cranks /braid is by using a really loose drag.
eagon06 reply :
On 8/19/2013 at 9:23 PM, Dwight Hottle said:Yes. You really need a moderate action not XF for crankbaits with braid. The only way you could pull off using that rod for cranks /braid is by using a really loose drag.
Okay, so its looking like the 7'mf then, that should still be quite versatile right?
Dwight Hottle reply :
On 8/19/2013 at 9:31 PM, eagon06 said:Okay, so its looking like the 7'mf then, that should still be quite versatile right?
Yes the LXS70MF would be very versatile for what you want. The other choice if you are using light baits would be the LXS76MLXF. Don't hesitate to call St Croix & get some advice from the experts. Ask for Dan Cerwinski in customer service. I spelled his last name the way it sounds, spelling could be wrong.
eagon06 reply :
On 8/19/2013 at 9:44 PM, Dwight Hottle said:Yes the LXS70MF would be very versatile for what you want. The other choice if you are using light baits would be the LXS76MLXF. Don't hesitate to call St Croix & get some advice from the experts. Ask for Dan Cerwinski in customer service. I spelled his last name the way it sounds, spelling could be wrong.
Thanks a lot Dwight, I was planning on giving them a call this afternoon. I think a 7'6 might be a little too much for me. I like to cast from shore when I take the dog hiking, I suppose I could bring an old stick with for that. Leaning towards the 7'm, will call Dan and see what he says.
eagon06 reply :
On 8/19/2013 at 9:23 PM, Dwight Hottle said:Yes. You really need a moderate action not XF for crankbaits with braid. The only way you could pull off using that rod for cranks /braid is by using a really loose drag.
What do you think if I switched from powerpro to something with a little more stretch?
kschultz76 reply :
If you'll be throwing a lot of cranks or trebles I'd stick the the 7' M F as well. I use my M XF specifically for soft plastic single hook applications. That's why I also have the 6'6" M F Avid to cover a better variety of lures. But if I was only going to have one rod it would be the M F, I fished all my soft plastics on the Avid until I got the Xtreme it was a great taper for everything I did with it.
Dwight Hottle reply :
On 8/19/2013 at 10:09 PM, eagon06 said:What do you think if I switched from powerpro to something with a little more stretch?
Mono or copoly would help that situation. A drag that slips on a hard hook set would help too with the braid. Or braid with a six foot mono leader. You just have to try it to see what works best for you.
eagon06 reply :
well I just spoke with Dan and he said to go with the 7 foot medium fast. He said that the extra fast just won't work with crankbaits
Dwight Hottle reply :
On 8/20/2013 at 1:10 AM, eagon06 said:well I just spoke with Dan and he said to go with the 7 foot medium fast. He said that the extra fast just won't work with crankbaits
Dan's the man.
tomustang reply :
I use a 6'8 MF for jerks and cranks, 8-10lb line. Using those without a properly set drag isn't good. Even still takes some finessing but can be learn with time.
eagon06 reply :
Is that an older model? I didn't think they offered anything fast action shorter than 7'.
I ordered the 7'mf, should be here this weekend. Week after that I will be in the boundary waters hopefully catching everything from walleye to lake trout. Will review It then.
kschultz76 reply :
I predict once you use it you'll buy at least two more St Croix sticks!
new2BC4bass reply :
I see all your questions got answered but one. GP = general purpose
Congrats on the new rod. I don't have a St. Croix, but my buddy tomustang fishes only St. Croix so I know they are excellent rods. Enjoy it.
tomustang reply :
On 8/20/2013 at 10:44 AM, eagon06 said:Is that an older model? I didn't think they offered anything fast action shorter than 7'.
I ordered the 7'mf, should be here this weekend. Week after that I will be in the boundary waters hopefully catching everything from walleye to lake trout. Will review It then.
Sorry I meant MXF
eagon06 reply :
Thanks guys. I have 4 st croix fly rods but this will be my first venture into a spinning rod by them except for an old triumph. Now I feel like I'm waiting for Christmas morning lol.
iabass8 reply :
if your only experience /w st. croix bass rods is the triumph, more than xmas is coming. enjoy the new rod. you will love it.
Hi Salenity reply :
I have a 2013 ML and had a 2012 M I liked both extremes and I don't think you'll make a bad choice
Btw I kept the ML
aceman387 reply :
I am looking forward to your review.I have an older (5-6 years) legend elite spinning rod (7ft,med power) and its my go to all purpose rod. I have thought of upgrading it to an extreme but i like it so much its hard to get rid of it.
Hi Salenity reply :
The old Extremes are great but I hated the noisy recoil guides.
kschultz76 reply :
That's a giant leap from a Triumph to an Xfreme you're in for a real treat. My Avid for me hooked on St Croix, and I was lucky enough to be shopping for new rods when they had precious year LTB models on clearence in the bargain room, then again the next year with the Xtremes.
To aceman, the elites are the same blanks as the Xtremes just different grips and components. Not sure you'd see a big difference unless you really wanted a split grip. But the new handle design of the Xtremes seems to have come with heavier rods then the previous Xtremes. I'm wondering if they added some weight in the handle to improve balance.
DaveT63 reply :
I know you are talking spinning, but I have the 7'MF Xtreme in a casting rod. It is definitely my all-time favorite rod. I expect the spinning version to be just as nice. You probably won't be able to find enough good words to describe the difference between the Triumph and the Xtreme.
Capt.Bob reply :
That move just cost you a bundle,,,,,once you try a Legend Extreme or Elite, one is not enough, you would have been better off not owning one,,,, THEN,,, you could tell everyone how good your other rods are!!!! But now you are going to be spoiled,,,,yes they are that good!! ENJOY!!!
eagon06 reply :
Well I got from a dealer who went straight through the factory and due to demand I finalllly got it today.
It feels amazing. I love the new skin handle as it is very sleek and comfortable. Will be out all weekend and give a review after. Now I just need to order a new CI4+ 
eagon06 reply :
On 8/21/2013 at 8:46 AM, kschultz76 said:To aceman, the elites are the same blanks as the Xtremes just different grips and components. Not sure you'd see a big difference unless you really wanted a split grip. But the new handle design of the Xtremes seems to have come with heavier rods then the previous Xtremes. I'm wondering if they added some weight in the handle to improve balance.
After speaking to a rep, I understood it as the blanks are slightly different due to a new process they are using to improve the xtreme?
kschultz76 reply :
Eagon you're right, a quick look at the St Croix catalog confirms the redesigned Xtremes feature their new TET process, but that's the only difference I could see other then components. Not sure how much difference that will make between the Xtreme and the Elite.
You can always call and order from Croix direct if you're having a hard time finding a dealer carrying what you want. I've done it a few times, they're easy to deal with.
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