Need a new partner in crime for my new MB reel 2024

SUPERHOT reply :

So my brand new MB FX86 Viola is coming next Sunday from Japan(Yes i paid a lil extra for Sunday delivery) But i cant seem to decide to what rod to pair with. So heres my contesters.

-G Loomis E6X JWR 7.1 MH XF

-MB Orochi XX Diablo Spec R

Got any more suggestions?

.ghoti. reply :

For that beautiful reel, there's only one choice. Go custom. Contact Mike at DVT, and let him build you a stick worthy of the reel.

NYBasser reply :

The Orochi XX Diablo Spec R is the winner hands down. Balances well, and has amazing sensitivity. It's not even a contest. The E6X is a decent rod, but it is nowhere near a $200 rod. It would be much better down at the $100 price range.

THE_Vue's reply :

Get the new triple X

roadwarrior reply :

Hmm...

I see a custom build in your future!

PatrickKnight reply :

Custom for sure.

bigturtle reply :

Between those 2, orochi is the very easy choice

Angry John reply :

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go big

SUPERHOT reply :

I got alot of people suggesting custom rods.

Im just an typical HS Angler and i can hear my wallet crying stop buying JDM Tackle...

Not sure if i can afford a custom rod :I

Any more better suggestions?

GoCougs14 reply :

I have a Diablo spec R and I love it.

rippin-lips reply :

The Orochi xx line is hard to beat for the money. Depending on what your plans are for the rod, the dsr might not be the best choice though. What are your intended uses for the rod? I own most of the xx lineup so I'll help you out if I can. The new xxx line is priced a tad better but without any real world experience yet it tough to say how it'll stick up against the xx. It's a good looking rod though.

kschultz76 reply :

Love my Diablo Spec R, I'd go that over the E6x any day. But it also depends what you intend to fish with the rod, as based on the specs of that E6x it's a totally different rod. The Diablo is more of an all purpose rod with a taper that works well for a lot of moving baits especially single hook moving baits and lipless cranks. But for me it's plenty fast for creature bait and worms on a weightless or light trig, light jigs, swim jigs. I've pulled a dozen bass under 2lbs out of lily pads with it throwing a trigged sweet beaver and 3/8 oz tungsten. But I do love my Diablo, it's one of my favorite rods.

Specs on that E6x indicate it's a dedicated bottom contact type of rod with an exfast taper. I'm not familiar with the series or how they handle. But if a traditional American exfast JWR taper is what you're after the Diablo is not that rod.

If if you want a jig and worm rod in the Orochi series look at the EMTF, Tour Versatile, XH Jig n Worm, or the Perfect Pitch. In the price range I'd also suggest the Kistler Helium MH XF in 7'1", some say it's not a true XF but it handles with a faster taper then the Diablo in my hands. But it's a hell of a great casting and pitching rod.

On 3/14/2017 at 10:12 AM, rippin-lips said:

The Orochi xx line is hard to beat for the money. Depending on what your plans are for the rod, the dsr might not be the best choice though. What are your intended uses for the rod? I own most of the xx lineup so I'll help you out if I can. The new xxx line is priced a tad better but without any real world experience yet it tough to say how it'll stick up against the xx. It's a good looking rod though.

Hey Rippin, do you have the Tour Versatile or XH Jig n Worm?

rippin-lips reply :

On 3/14/2017 at 10:23 AM, kschultz76 said:

Love my Diablo Spec R, I'd go that over the E6x any day. But it also depends what you intend to fish with the rod, as based on the specs of that E6x it's a totally different rod. The Diablo is more of an all purpose rod with a taper that works well for a lot of moving baits especially single hook moving baits and lipless cranks. But for me it's plenty fast for creature bait and worms on a weightless or light trig, light jigs, swim jigs. I've pulled a dozen bass under 2lbs out of lily pads with it throwing a trigged sweet beaver and 3/8 oz tungsten. But I do love my Diablo, it's one of my favorite rods.

Specs on that E6x indicate it's a dedicated bottom contact type of rod with an exfast taper. I'm not familiar with the series or how they handle. But if a traditional American exfast JWR taper is what you're after the Diablo is not that rod.

If if you want a jig and worm rod in the Orochi series look at the EMTF, Tour Versatile, XH Jig n Worm, or the Perfect Pitch. In the price range I'd also suggest the Kistler Helium MH XF in 7'1", some say it's not a true XF but it handles with a faster taper then the Diablo in my hands. But it's a hell of a great casting and pitching rod.

Hey Rippin, do you have the Tour Versatile or XH Jig n Worm?

I had the TV but sold it because it was too similar to the PP. The J&W is the only rod in the series I've heard anything negative about. Other people state that it's pretty tip heavy and unlike the other rods in the xx series.

kschultz76 reply :

On 3/14/2017 at 10:33 AM, rippin-lips said:

I had the TV but sold it because it was too similar to the PP. The J&W is the only rod in the series I've heard anything negative about. Other people state that it's pretty tip heavy and unlike the other rods in the xx series.

Thanks that's what I needed to hear. I have a TV and trying to decide if I want the PP or the J&W at some point.

I've heard the same feedback about the J&W as well so I've always been far more interested in the PP.

rippin-lips reply :

On 3/14/2017 at 10:37 AM, kschultz76 said:

Thanks that's what I needed to hear. I have a TV and trying to decide if I want the PP or the J&W at some point.

Go with the perfect pitch. It's a great rod. I like it over the tv and that's why I kept it out of the two. Though the tv is nice I was trying to cut down on rods and that's why it's gone. I'd of kept it too if not.

SUPERHOT reply :

On 3/14/2017 at 10:12 AM, rippin-lips said:

The Orochi xx line is hard to beat for the money. Depending on what your plans are for the rod, the dsr might not be the best choice though. What are your intended uses for the rod? I own most of the xx lineup so I'll help you out if I can. The new xxx line is priced a tad better but without any real world experience yet it tough to say how it'll stick up against the xx. It's a good looking rod though.

Planning to use it for all purposes.Swimbaits,jigs,worms,cranks,poppers ETC you name it.

The reel thats coming will be a 6:8:1 and i love fishing soft lures.

rippin-lips reply :

If it will see more bottom contact than moving baits then the emtf is a better choice. It's 3" longer but has a faster taper which is good for jigs and t rigs. The dsr isn't a bad choice though at all. It's just more of a mod fast than the emtf. I've used it for t rigs in a pinch but it's not my first choice.

SUPERHOT reply :

On 3/14/2017 at 11:23 AM, rippin-lips said:

If it will see more bottom contact than moving baits then the emtf is a better choice. It's 3" longer but has a faster taper which is good for jigs and t rigs. The dsr isn't a bad choice though at all. It's just more of a mod fast than the emtf. I've used it for t rigs in a pinch but it's not my first choice.

Because i spent like 300$ on the reel i dont have that much cash with me.

Im trying to be versatile as i can and try my best to get a do it all rod.

Might need to go with the E6X tho but im not sure.

rippin-lips reply :

You can buy them used on eBay from $180-220. Just keep an eye out for one.

SUPERHOT reply :

On 3/14/2017 at 12:11 PM, rippin-lips said:

You can buy them used on eBay from $180-220. Just keep an eye out for one.

Thanks for the tip. Now gotta see and let time tell.

bigfruits reply :

The XX DSR is a very versatile rod. If I lost mine, Id buy it again. Balances very well with any reel I mount to it. I wasnt expecting it to be as sensitive as it is.

I use mine mostly for moving baits - 1/2oz and greater. Chatterbaits, swimjigs, spinnerbaits, buzzbaits, paddletails on jigheads, lipless in grass, small hard swimbaits.

Ive never fished the XX EMTF but have read a lot about it. I'd get this for a jig/worm focused combo vs the DSR. I hear the PP is a killer frog rod.

kschultz76 reply :

If you're on a budget you could look at the MB Levante series Diablo. TackleTour did a review and gave it good marks. It has Eva grips though, and word on the street is that it doesn't compete with the XX in terms of sensitivity or crispness.

SUPERHOT reply :

On 3/14/2017 at 9:40 PM, kschultz76 said:

If you're on a budget you could look at the MB Levante series Diablo. TackleTour did a review and gave it good marks. It has Eva grips though, and word on the street is that it doesn't compete with the XX in terms of sensitivity or crispness.

Im not a big fan of EVA grips. To me makes the rod feel cheap for me and not the most stylish to me. I prefer cork over EVA but hey ill take it if i need it.

bigfruits reply :

for a rod to handle everything in its weight range (except deep cranks maybe) i'd take a hard look at the 2016 GLX 843 MBR. Gary at the Tackle Trap has these for 25% off currently. He also carries the MB XX line and will have the new XXX line. He has fished hundreds of rods and will happily compare rods for you if you give him a call or send an email.

SUPERHOT reply :

On 3/14/2017 at 10:04 PM, bigfruits said:

for a rod to handle everything in its weight range (except deep cranks maybe) i'd take a hard look at the 2016 GLX 843 MBR. Gary at the Tackle Trap has these for 25% off currently. He also carries the MB XX line and will have the new XXX line. He has fished hundreds of rods and will happily compare rods for you if you give him a call or send an email.

I only have about 200$ with me. Thanks for the suggestion but ill pass.

bigfruits reply :

Youre welcome. If another $100 falls in your lap before his sale is over, I'd make an inquiry. For moving baits, you dont need a $300 rod. The St. Croix Avid line comes to mind for $200.

SUPERHOT reply :

On 3/14/2017 at 10:14 PM, bigfruits said:

Youre welcome. If another $100 falls in your lap before his sale is over, I'd make an inquiry. For moving baits, you dont need a $300 rod. The St. Croix Avid line comes to mind for $200.

Well i decided to swap out the JWR E6X for an MBR E6X. So any thoughts on it?

bigfruits reply :

i have not fished the e6x rods and i have not heard much about them. I think most people like them but they are not special at the price point.

Im sure the action/power is great if youre looking for versatility but I'd probably go with an Avid before an e6x (st croix has similar replacement plan).

PM me if you would like some links to other resources to research rods.

SUPERHOT reply :

On 3/14/2017 at 10:38 PM, bigfruits said:

i have not fished the e6x rods and i have not heard much about them. I think most people like them but they are not special at the price point.

Im sure the action/power is great if youre looking for versatility but I'd probably go with an Avid before an e6x (st croix has similar replacement plan).

PM me if you would like some links to other resources to research rods.

Thank you man. After i get my Reel might visit my Cabelas and BPS and see what the staff suggests for me.

bigfruits reply :

youre welcome. i think you will get better advice here and on other forums than you will with retail staff. remember that opinions vary greatly in this sport. read as much as you can and dont base your decision to any one review.

nocluefisher reply :

I just got a good deal on a dobyns mislabeled rod from their website. Check them out. $170 for a champion 736cb. I don't know if that rod is as versatile as you are looking for bit it is an option.

nameiztaken reply :

On 3/14/2017 at 9:06 AM, SUPERHOT said:

I got alot of people suggesting custom rods.

Im just an typical HS Angler and i can hear my wallet crying stop buying JDM Tackle...

Not sure if i can afford a custom rod :I

Any more better suggestions?

Somebody get this man a discount! Honestly building a rod might be fun too, if you're inclined in that type of stuff.

Otherwise, the orichi would be fine.

reason162 reply :

On 3/14/2017 at 10:11 PM, SUPERHOT said:

I only have about 200$ with me. Thanks for the suggestion but ill pass.

I think you'll be much happier with either the Zodias or Cronos. Definitely skip the e6x, and the Levante as well...

kschultz76 reply :

If you've got to stick to that $200 price range then earlier input about the E6X vs the Orochi XX is likely not useful. When comparing a $200 rod to a $300 rod those with experience with either are likely to recommend the more expensive stick.

Id suggest if you want good input from the group here that you start over and restate your requirements in terms of lures/weights/cover you want to fish, budget, and preferences like grip material.

If if you want feedback on specific models then list them out.

Ive never fished an E6x so I can't give you meaningful input. I've held and inspected them in store and they didn't "feel" great in hand and I noticed on everyone I held some small cosmetic issues.

If you want a good all purpose rod, the MBR series is better than JWR series for that need for sure.

I think the suggestion to look at the Avid or Avid X is also a very good one, especially if for your needs something like a 7' M/F will work. I tend to find the St Croix MH/F rods too heavy for any crankbait. But they're certainly good for jigs/trigs.

I have no experience wit them but have read good things about ALX rods and their Zolo series is in your budget and has a cork handle.

I also think Kistler rods that are built on NFC blanks are a really good bang for your buck option in your price range.

Look at rod reviews on TackleTour where the reference "Search For The One" where they're specifically considering all purpose sticks.

Lots if if good options for $200, and likely none of them is a "bad" rod.

SUPERHOT reply :

On 3/16/2017 at 12:12 AM, kschultz76 said:

If you've got to stick to that $200 price range then earlier input about the E6X vs the Orochi XX is likely not useful. When comparing a $200 rod to a $300 rod those with experience with either are likely to recommend the more expensive stick.

Id suggest if you want good input from the group here that you start over and restate your requirements in terms of lures/weights/cover you want to fish, budget, and preferences like grip material.

If if you want feedback on specific models then list them out.

Ive never fished an E6x so I can't give you meaningful input. I've held and inspected them in store and they didn't "feel" great in hand and I noticed on everyone I held some small cosmetic issues.

If you want a good all purpose rod, the MBR series is better than JWR series for that need for sure.

I think the suggestion to look at the Avid or Avid X is also a very good one, especially if for your needs something like a 7' M/F will work. I tend to find the St Croix MH/F rods too heavy for any crankbait. But they're certainly good for jigs/trigs.

I have no experience wit them but have read good things about ALX rods and their Zolo series is in your budget and has a cork handle.

I also think Kistler rods that are built on NFC blanks are a really good bang for your buck option in your price range.

Look at rod reviews on TackleTour where the reference "Search For The One" where they're specifically considering all purpose sticks.

Lots if if good options for $200, and likely none of them is a "bad" rod.

Will do thanks.

THE_Vue's reply :

x2 on the AvidX especially the 7'Med/F

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