Veritas 2024
Skeet22 reply :
Picked up a 6'6" M spinning for shaky head, finesse applications. This is the second nanofiber rod I have now. Man the way these rods feel really makes me want to replace every rod I have with a veritas...Price is great as well!
SeanW reply :
I have actually done just that.
lsufan334 reply :
QuoteI have actually done just that.
So have I. I have 6 of them now ;D except for my deep cranking rod. I think the 7'6" Veritas will have too much muscle for deep cranks but havent really checked into it yet. SeanW have you checked out the 7'6 and if so would it suit deep cranks or more for swimbaits?
Skeet22 reply :
QuoteQuoteI have actually done just that.So have I. I have 6 of them now ;D except for my deep cranking rod. I think the 7'6" Veritas will have too much muscle for deep cranks but havent really checked into it yet. SeanW have you checked out the 7'6 and if so would it suit deep cranks or more for swimbaits?
I have the 7'2" Carrot cranking stick for deep cranking and love it. It actually feels just like the Veritas and can be found for $99
SeanW reply :
You might wanna check out both 7'6 rods, there is a MH and a H. I also have a few of the 7'3MH and I wouldnt hesitate to throw deep cranks on that. So IM assuming the 7'6 MH would also be fine. I am getting some of the Verdicts as well, so hopefully they will arrive with in a month. I was gonna keep some of my Powell rods, but the more I use the Veritas the more of em I sell off. 
northern basser reply :
I was at Cabelas yesterday checking out what they had left of their clearence xml rods($59). As I've said before, these rods are nice at $139.00.
Right next to those were a rack of the veritas so of course I had to handle one. I'm definitely going to get one to try out. They feel awesome!! Light, balanced, and they felt pretty sensitive when doing a "rub the tip on the carpet" test. $99!!!!!!!!!!!
After walking away I had to go back. I held an XML in 1 hand and a veritas in the other. I was way more impressed w/ the veritas. I do own 2 casting and 2 spinning XML's, but my focus of looking for another went straight to the veritas. Can't wait to get my hands on one of the new Verdicts also.
SeanW reply :
Ill post something up once I get my Verdict shipment, but I think it'll be a month.
northern basser reply :
A question for the people who already have a veritas. Which one would you recommend for fishing a weightless senko and other soft plastics? When I was handling them they felt stiff for their rating so I'm a little undecided.
TBendBassin reply :
yea the lure range on the veritas is off.. i would get the 7ft medium
SeanW reply :
Quoteyea the lure range on the veritas is off.. i would get the 7ft medium
I was thinking the same thing at first. My 7'3 MH Casting rods arrived yesterday. To me they are perfect senko and jig rods, and texas rig rods. Ill use them more then any other rod. Of course everybody is different. I hae to always consider that I may hook a 10+ on the next cast. Once I got a reel, line and bait on the rod it felt like a MH. I should add that Im a line watcher when senko fishing.
TBendBassin reply :
QuoteQuoteyea the lure range on the veritas is off.. i would get the 7ft mediumI was thinking the same thing at first. My 7'3 MH Casting rods arrived yesterday. To me they are perfect senko and jig rods, and texas rig rods. Ill use them more then any other rod. Of course everybody is different. I hae to always consider that I may hook a 10+ on the next cast. Once I got a reel, line and bait on the rod it felt like a MH. I should add that Im a line watcher when senko fishing.
yea i was just saying most people like that action rod for senko fishing.. But i agree with you i have two senko rods one is a 7ft heavy action rod i use for throwing around timber and brush which down here on the bend there is alot of timber!! but there is also huge flats and when im fishing flats i throw a senko on a 7'6 power tackle rod pg 104.. its better on the flats for making long casts and the length also helps get a good hook set on those long cast
northern basser reply :
The only problem w/ the veritas lineup is that their only 7' med. is a mod. fast. I might just get that mod. fast for a crankbait/topwater rod and wait to get a 7' or 7'3" MH verdict. SeanW- how does that 7'3" feel w/ a reel on it(tip heavy wise)?
SeanW reply :
The MH is awesome. I put Revo Premiers on the 7"3 MH and is balances fine even with the feather weight reel. All of the Veritas rods seem to balance just fine.
SeanW reply :
QuoteQuoteQuoteyea the lure range on the veritas is off.. i would get the 7ft mediumI was thinking the same thing at first. My 7'3 MH Casting rods arrived yesterday. To me they are perfect senko and jig rods, and texas rig rods. Ill use them more then any other rod. Of course everybody is different. I hae to always consider that I may hook a 10+ on the next cast. Once I got a reel, line and bait on the rod it felt like a MH. I should add that Im a line watcher when senko fishing.
yea i was just saying most people like that action rod for senko fishing.. But i agree with you i have two senko rods one is a 7ft heavy action rod i use for throwing around timber and brush which down here on the bend there is alot of timber!! but there is also huge flats and when im fishing flats i throw a senko on a 7'6 power tackle rod pg 104.. its better on the flats for making long casts and the length also helps get a good hook set on those long cast
Yeah a senko is so darn heavy that you can cast and fish it with just about anything.
Skeet22 reply :
Since I started this thread I sold my 7'8 H Kistler magnesium and ordered a 7'6 MH Veritas for fishing Jigs, C-Rigs, and punching mats. My H Kistler was rated up to 1oz, the MH Veritas is rated to 1 1/4oz so it does seem they are rated a little lighter than they actually are. I am also selling two other Kistler rods I have to buy one 7'MH Veritas for pitching t-rigged plastics...Pretty soon I will have white all over my deck...
SeanW reply :
QuoteSince I started this thread I sold my 7'8 H Kistler magnesium and ordered a 7'6 MH Veritas for fishing Jigs, C-Rigs, and punching mats. My H Kistler was rated up to 1oz, the MH Veritas is rated to 1 1/4oz so it does seem they are rated a little lighter than they actually are. I am also selling two other Kistler rods I have to buy one 7'MH Veritas for pitching t-rigged plastics...Pretty soon I will have white all over my deck...
Thats perfect for the MH flip. I wouldnt go over 1oz with it. Any bigger and the H would be a better bet. Im going with 2 of each. ;D Id suggest that 7'3MH for pitching, but you may prefer a 7ft rod.
Skeet22 reply :
QuoteQuoteSince I started this thread I sold my 7'8 H Kistler magnesium and ordered a 7'6 MH Veritas for fishing Jigs, C-Rigs, and punching mats. My H Kistler was rated up to 1oz, the MH Veritas is rated to 1 1/4oz so it does seem they are rated a little lighter than they actually are. I am also selling two other Kistler rods I have to buy one 7'MH Veritas for pitching t-rigged plastics...Pretty soon I will have white all over my deck...Thats perfect for the MH flip. I wouldnt go over 1oz with it. Any bigger and the H would be a better bet. Im going with 2 of each. ;D Id suggest that 7'3MH for pitching, but you may prefer a 7ft rod.
Most of my punching is done with 3/4 oz so I should be fine. I think you can play a big fish a little better wih MH vs a H so I dont want the broomstick unless I really need it. If I break one horsing a fish out of the grass though then I will prob regret going with the MH. We will see how it goes.
I may just go with the 7'3" for pitching plastics for the better hookset.
SeanW reply :
QuoteQuoteQuoteSince I started this thread I sold my 7'8 H Kistler magnesium and ordered a 7'6 MH Veritas for fishing Jigs, C-Rigs, and punching mats. My H Kistler was rated up to 1oz, the MH Veritas is rated to 1 1/4oz so it does seem they are rated a little lighter than they actually are. I am also selling two other Kistler rods I have to buy one 7'MH Veritas for pitching t-rigged plastics...Pretty soon I will have white all over my deck...Thats perfect for the MH flip. I wouldnt go over 1oz with it. Any bigger and the H would be a better bet. Im going with 2 of each. ;D Id suggest that 7'3MH for pitching, but you may prefer a 7ft rod.
Most of my punching is done with 3/4 oz so I should be fine. I think you can play a big fish a little better wih MH vs a H so I dont want the broomstick unless I really need it. If I break one horsing a fish out of the grass though then I will prob regret going with the MH. We will see how it goes.
I may just go with the 7'3" for pitching plastics for the better hookset.
I dont think there will be a breaking issue at all. I was saying that because I use 1.5oz and 2oz quite a bit. Its more about being able to pitch accurately, and a 2oz weight on the MH would be over powering. You will be fine with 3/4, and Id horse fish, these rods are tough and strong.
Jason Penn reply :
I've got two of the 7' M m/f rods and really like them. I'm using one for spinnerbaits and the other for med-deep cranks. To me it's a little too stiff & fast for small shallow crankin but it works good for the LC Clunn baits. Anything like a size 5 fat free shad is perfect range.
I threw a DT16 last time out and it was almost too much. Those baits really have the most resistance of any crank I throw though, even the 10 pulls pretty hard. I really don't do much deep cranking so I should be good!
northern basser reply :
Just picked up 2 of them today. A 7'3" mh fast for my dad and a med. 7' mf for myself. When the Verdicts are more available I'm going to pick up a 7' or 7'3" mh for myself also. Had a 25% off coupon that had to be used by Jan. 5. Worked out pretty well, $74.99 for each!
SeanW reply :
QuoteJust picked up 2 of them today. A 7'3" mh fast for my dad and a med. 7' mf for myself. When the Verdicts are more available I'm going to pick up a 7' or 7'3" mh for myself also. Had a 25% off coupon that had to be used by Jan. 5. Worked out pretty well, $74.99 for each!
Nice! Thats a great deal. Both are great rods. I find the 7'3 to be kind of a one rod does all if you had to. Its gonna be my jig rod, buzz baits, frog rod, spinner baits, spooks, senko. I could go on, guess its easier to say I think its the best in the line up. I should add that Ive been pairing my Veritas rods with Premier reels, and man they are featherweight.
northern basser reply :
My Patriarch xt will go on that med. mf for cranks, spinnerbaits/ buzzbaits. The blue reel might not look too bad on the white. When I pull the trigger on the 7'3" Verdict I'll prob. put a 200e7 on it. I really would like to try a premier, but I can almost get 2 e7's for that price. It's hard to find a discount on the premier!
An earlier post stated that the med. mf might be a little stiff for light cranks, but I have that covered w/ a 7' med. fast act. Kistler ltx 1/16-1/2oz. baits that I picked up a month ago. I think I will put a 50e on that.
Now I'm just itching for the Verdict!!!!!!!!!!!
SeanW reply :
You and me both. Im trying to hold off on my order until after the 10th of the year. Im ordering 12 Verdicts.
andamtoft reply :
any one out there have the 6'9" MH xf casting? I was thinking about getting it for senkos. It concerns me that everyone says they are very stiff, but I was thinking the xf tip would allow the bait to load and cast it plenty far. any thoughts?
SeanW reply :
Quoteany one out there have the 6'9" MH xf casting? I was thinking about getting it for senkos. It concerns me that everyone says they are very stiff, but I was thinking the xf tip would allow the bait to load and cast it plenty far. any thoughts?
Dont worry, it will be fine for senkos.
northern basser reply :
Quoteany one out there have the 6'9" MH xf casting? I was thinking about getting it for senkos. It concerns me that everyone says they are very stiff, but I was thinking the xf tip would allow the bait to load and cast it plenty far. any thoughts?
I checked this rod out extensively also. Sooner or later I will pick up one of these. I think it would be a good worm rod too.
When I was at cabelas today getting the 2 rods I noticed that they are selling them quick. Half of them have been sold since I've began looking at them a few days ago.
lsufan334 reply :
i have the 6'9 . I use it for spinnerbaits and buzzbaits. good backbone and great tip for rolling blades
northern basser reply :
I'm gonna go a little off topic here, but I'm interested in others thoughts.
Different rods companies that offer technique specific rods tend to have varying opinions on action for certain applications. Specifically spinnerbaits and buzzbaits. I've seen SB & BB specific rods that are xfast while other companies's are mod. fast?
I guess I can see both sides, xfast would give you a more accurate cast and mf would help prevent pulling the bait away too quickly.
What are others thoughts?
J Francho reply :
QuoteI'm gonna go a little off topic here, but I'm interested in others thoughts.Different rods companies that offer technique specific rods tend to have varying opinions on action for certain applications. Specifically spinnerbaits and buzzbaits. I've seen SB & BB specific rods that are xfast while other companies's are mod. fast?
I guess I can see both sides, xfast would give you a more accurate cast and mf would help prevent pulling the bait away too quickly.
What are others thoughts?
Probably better to start a new thread for that.
northern basser reply :
QuoteQuoteI'm gonna go a little off topic here, but I'm interested in others thoughts.Different rods companies that offer technique specific rods tend to have varying opinions on action for certain applications. Specifically spinnerbaits and buzzbaits. I've seen SB & BB specific rods that are xfast while other companies's are mod. fast?
I guess I can see both sides, xfast would give you a more accurate cast and mf would help prevent pulling the bait away too quickly.
What are others thoughts?
Probably better to start a new thread for that.
Sorry, the more I typed the more I started thinking the same
SeanW reply :
QuoteI'm gonna go a little off topic here, but I'm interested in others thoughts.Different rods companies that offer technique specific rods tend to have varying opinions on action for certain applications. Specifically spinnerbaits and buzzbaits. I've seen SB & BB specific rods that are xfast while other companies's are mod. fast?
I guess I can see both sides, xfast would give you a more accurate cast and mf would help prevent pulling the bait away too quickly.
What are others thoughts?
My thoughts are, like anything else, its is gonna come down to personal preference. Its seems over the years Ive transitioned from that fast and XF to more of a moderate. I prefer to allow the fish to have a bit more time to eat the bait, so a bit more bend in the rod.
northern basser reply :
QuoteQuoteI'm gonna go a little off topic here, but I'm interested in others thoughts.Different rods companies that offer technique specific rods tend to have varying opinions on action for certain applications. Specifically spinnerbaits and buzzbaits. I've seen SB & BB specific rods that are xfast while other companies's are mod. fast?
I guess I can see both sides, xfast would give you a more accurate cast and mf would help prevent pulling the bait away too quickly.
What are others thoughts?
My thoughts are, like anything else, its is gonna come down to personal preference. Its seems over the years Ive transitioned from that fast and XF to more of a moderate. I prefer to allow the fish to have a bit more time to eat the bait, so a bit more bend in the rod.
Thanks SeanW. I won't start a new thread so it'll end here.
kikstand454 reply :
ive been considering buying a dedicated jig rod for months now and have decided on the vertas 7'mh/f. a local store finally got them in and now its all i think about. lol. i want one so bad its stupid.
i know that they are ligthweight and i love the feel and design... but for those who have them...a few questions.
i have mostly shimano rods. i love them. i have no problems with them at all and love their warranty. but the truth is i also love the split grip design. i have a crucial that is split grip and i love it. i cannot afford a cumara so im forced to look at other companies if this feature is important to me. also i want to experiment with some other rods and companies as most companies now affoer awesome rods in the <$150 range.
my questions are does anyone know how their warranty is?
i know their new but has anyone had and durability issues? excluding the split grip factor... how do they compare to say the compre shimano?
again .... just asking... im almost certainly getting one as soon as the funds are available to do so.
andamtoft reply :
looks like their warranty is a one year limited warranty...
http://www.abugarcia.com/support/warranties
Does anyone use a veritas for topwater? I'm wondering what the best model choice might be for this application.
SeanW reply :
Quoteive been considering buying a dedicated jig rod for months now and have decided on the vertas 7'mh/f. a local store finally got them in and now its all i think about. lol. i want one so bad its stupid.i know that they are ligthweight and i love the feel and design... but for those who have them...a few questions.
i have mostly shimano rods. i love them. i have no problems with them at all and love their warranty. but the truth is i also love the split grip design. i have a crucial that is split grip and i love it. i cannot afford a cumara so im forced to look at other companies if this feature is important to me. also i want to experiment with some other rods and companies as most companies now affoer awesome rods in the <$150 range.
my questions are does anyone know how their warranty is?
i know their new but has anyone had and durability issues? excluding the split grip factor... how do they compare to say the compre shimano?
again .... just asking... im almost certainly getting one as soon as the funds are available to do so.
Ike and Larry Nixon used em all season this past year. They have been tested, and are tough. A few things I can tell you about Pure Fishing Company(Abu is one of them), they are outstanding. Its virtually a hassle free warranty, you call, they send a new rod and a return postage paid tag. This goes for Abu, Fenwick, All Star, Pflueger, and so on. Its my understanding that the warranty is 3 years. Although Ive heard many claims that there are no reciept required, and they dont so much follow that. They are all about customer service.
Not sure how they compare as its been a long time since I fished my Compre. I fished with several today and they are great. I caught several 3lb smallies on the 6'9 ML spinning rod and flipped em into the boat(6lb 100% fluoro). The rod managed em just fine. Just for the record I only fish split grip now, full handle just feels strange.
SeanW reply :
Quotelooks like their warranty is a one year limited warranty...http://www.abugarcia.com/support/warranties
Does anyone use a veritas for topwater? I'm wondering what the best model choice might be for this application.
Its not really top water time here right now, but I most certainly will come febuary. The 7'3 MH is gonna be my frog rod, spooks, buzz baits. The M action 7ft will handle the lighter stuff for me.
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