Flipping bail manually 2024

bass slayer 17 reply :

I have just started flipping my bail over manually on my spinning reel and I think it makes a huge difference to line twist problems and also better presentations... Is there anyone else who thinks the same thing???

Wildbillb reply :

I concur.

It is also nicer on the reel.

billbrum reply :

It definitely cuts down on line twist.

avid reply :

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It definitely cuts down on line twist.

No doubt about it.

NewScreenNameAdvised reply :

Absolutely. I just started doing that about 3 years ago and boy what a difference. now I get all anal when I let a friend borrow arod/reel with good line on it and see them using the handle to engage the reel.

Muddy reply :

It does help to keep that first loop from forming, after a while it becomes second nature, you will not even think about it

Sam reply :

ALWAYS FLIP YOUR SPINNING REEL BAIL WITH YOUR HAND.

It will extend the life of the reel.

Then, pull on the line to tighten it before you start to reel it in.

Run line through your fingers to feel for nicks and to try to remove any line twist and to keep line tight. Do this for a few turns of the handle.

You will always get line twist with a spinning reel. It is just the amount of line twist and how long it will take to curl your line that matters.

Be sure to treat the line with KVD Lure and Line Conditioner when spooling your spinning reels.

LAO162 reply :

I started flipping the bail manually last year. I seldom have twist issues now. Maybe 10% of the time I flip the bail by cranking.

TrailerHook reply :

I have always closed my bail manually. I believe it prolongs the life of the reel because it is much easier on the reel to close it gently by hand than to allow it to snap closed on its own. Plus, it gives you an opportunity to tug on the line to make sure it is positioned properly on the bail wire before you begin your retrieve. This will cut down on line twist and tangles dramatically.

TrailerHook reply :

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Be sure to treat the line with KVD Lure and Line Conditioner when spooling your spinning reels.

x2 on that, Sam. I'm a big believer in KVD's line conditioner after using it so far this year. It makes a big difference in taming line twist and tangles on spinning reels. I spray some on a shop towel and run the line through it as I'm spooling it on my reels. Then, when I'm fishing I will re-apply a couple times a day as needed. Makes a big difference.

Grey Wolf reply :

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I have just started flipping my bail over manually on my spinning reel and I think it makes a huge difference to line twist problems and also better presentations... Is there anyone else who thinks the same thing???

YES.

Big Tom reply :

I have always closed the bail manually. It just always seemed like it would be better for your reel anyway. It's a nice habit.

sdcoll reply :

huh go figure i didnt even think that there was any other way to use it.........

djmax22 reply :

I used to close by reeling until I heard Ike mention on TV to always close the reel manually.

Ultraman reply :

i have a question for the kvd spray, do u just spray it on the spool itself or do u run the line through a cloth with kvd spray applied to it?

and if both work, which method is better?

thanks

Texas_Bass_Man reply :

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i have a question for the kvd spray, do u just spray it on the spool itself or do u run the line through a cloth with kvd spray applied to it?
and if both work, which method is better?

thanks

I have used both, and feel like both work. However, I think applying the KVD conditioner while you spool the reel while running it through a cloth gives a more even application.

bass slayer 17 reply :

does his line conditioner really make a difference and is it better than other brands

Rob Faddis reply :

Much, in most oppinions here.

adclem reply :

Nice info, will have to try it out this evening.

Thanks,

thefishingone reply :

:-? I never heard of this. I'm going to start trying it.

Muddy reply :

WOW AND I THOUGHT THIS WAS A FAMILY FRIENDLY SITE

To think all this talk about guys flippin thier bails manually

Ultraman reply :

ya mean slaying the one eyed trouser snake?

The Rooster reply :

I've cranked bails closed for 12 years now, and recently read where Ike said not to so now I'm trying to make myself learn not to. I'm finding out I like it better so far. Haven't noticed yet whether it makes a difference in line twist but I did find out that by having my hand on the bail waiting to snap it closed I can feather a cast letting the line flow against my palm while the lure is still in the air. Works really well for slowing the bait down and entering the water with less splash.

After a few fishing trips where I closed it manually I'm starting to form a habit of pulling the line to put it where it belongs on the line roller so I guess I'm doing what I should be doing. Got two new Pflueger spinning reels this spring also so I want to keep them in tip top shape. I had an Abu Garcia Cardinal for a number of years and after a while the bail got so it would not close when cranked shut anymore. I must have worn off the striking point under the rotor for it to close by cranking it down. So given that experience and what I've read about it now, I'll never crank them shut again.

guitarkid reply :

I do because with my cardinal I had too, got in the habit and now I do it with my Medalist. It is almost a force of habit.

-searoach

eddieinva reply :

Agreed.. Have had spinning reels for a while now, and i've started with manual flipping.. and stuck with it.. I have a Spheros ..about 5-1/2 yrs old now.. and it's as good as new.. NEVER had a problem with my line.. Actually, I had to manually flip it because the Spheros bad a bad design to the bail itself..

JKay reply :

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does his line conditioner really make a difference and is it better than other brands

Yes, before I tried KVD line conditioner, I got suckered into trying Reel Magic. It was "reel disappointing" , I didn't like it at all and left an oil slick on the surface of the water

. I just started using the KVD product a month or so ago on my spinning reels and my line twist problems have been dramatically reduced. I had a really bad birds nest yesterday that I had to cut out. First bad one since I started using the KVD. I more than satisfied with how it performs

21farms reply :

i now flip the bail manually and i *think* it has a made a difference in reducing line twist but i have yet to hear or read a plausible explanation of why that would work. anyone?

.ghoti. reply :

I don't see how closing the bail manually will reduce line twist. Twist is created by rotation of the bail, and thus the line, during the retrieve.

It will reduce formation of loops on the spool, which will cause problems on subsequent casts.

Rob Faddis reply :

The main effect of Line & Lure with line twist is that it helps the line from "retaining" the memory of the twist in line. The slickness of the product also creates less tendency for line roll created by the action of the rotating bail and helps reduce resulting line wear.

.ghoti. reply :

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The main effect of Line & Lure with line twist is that it helps the line from "retaining" the memory of the twist in line. The slickness of the product also creates less tendency for line roll created by the action of the rotating bail and and helps reduce resulting line wear.

I can verify that. I don't use a spinning reel often, but my wife uses only spinning gear. We've both had a lot less line trouble on the spinning gear since I started treating the line with KVD.

Volman482 reply :

Manually closing the bail is a lot less stressful on the reel and the mechanasim will last a lot longer.

Also the KVD Line & Lure Conditioner is the only thing to use. The others can weaken the line by up to 50% in a few days. You'll get longer casts with KVD (guaranteed)http://www.lineandlure.com/

check it out. Great product. You won't be sorry!!

Tokyo Tony reply :

Even more importantly than preventing line twist and reel wear, closing the bail manually means your hand is right there by your line. Almost every cast I make with a spinning reel I soften the landing by gently putting pressure on the line that's coming off the reel right before the lure lands. Sometimes it's not important to do that, but most of the time a soft landing is preferable to a big splash.

However, watching KVD in the Elite Series, he closes the bail by cranking. Al Lindner does the same thing. I'd have to argue that those guys are pretty good fishermen...

Rob Faddis reply :

Yea and they both use Line & Lure 8-)

The Rooster reply :

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Even more importantly than preventing line twist and reel wear, closing the bail manually means your hand is right there by your line. Almost every cast I make with a spinning reel I soften the landing by gently putting pressure on the line that's coming off the reel right before the lure lands. Sometimes it's not important to do that, but most of the time a soft landing is preferable to a big splash.
However, watching KVD in the Elite Series, he closes the bail by cranking. Al Lindner does the same thing. I'd have to argue that those guys are pretty good fishermen...

They also get their reels handed to them free with a big thank you note for using them from the manufacturers. So if the reel wears out in only a few fishing trips it doesn't matter, and they probably have 1/2 a dozen of them on the same boat to replace a bad reel.

Rob Faddis reply :

Including line, rods, boats, etc. :'(

David P reply :

I never even realized you could flip a bail any other way besides manually until just a month or so back. I've always just manually flipped it over.

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