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justfishin reply :

Ok, and please don't drive to MD to whoop up on me. I still do not get the braid thing. I have tried it and gave it a honest try. I just do not like the feel of it or anything. I like mono. My 20lb test hauls them out of the thick stuff. I can feel everything on the end of my mono, no problem. Why use something you go to the hassle of adding a leader to? OK, I am going to " Tuck and Roll " now, have at it,lol.

cajun1977. reply :

i actually hate braid also,the line always wraps around the rod tip.

justfishin reply :

Cajun, thanks for jumping on board, but, save yourself boy,lol, I have a feeling that by the time this post is over I will be in my basement crying like a little Nancy Boy in the corner,lol. ;D

bass109 reply :

I believe braid line works best for summer months, in colder weather(spring,fall,winter) its not a good choice. I'd pick spiderwire braided line over berkley fireline anyday.

pondhopper reply :

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i actually hate braid also,the line always wraps around the rod tip.

Amazing what the stuff can do in an uncontrolled limp condition for a fraction of a second.

But then I have found something to hate about every line I have ever tried. For example, my favorite (Stren original) stretches like a freaking rubber band. Braid has just barely enough good points to stay on one of my reels.

Siebert Outdoors reply :

I like it but the only time I use it is on frogs, thick weeds, or muddy water. Other then that I use flourocarbon. Braid is more sensitive then any other line I've used.

Cory N reply :

I'm slowly falling for McCoy braid

Bass Hammer reply :

Right tool for the right job

When you need super strong hooksets way out like on a frog. Braid is the way to go. I often times will even use it on top water if I am throwing from way back. Zero stretch allows me to feel my lure much better at a distance.

There is no better line in my opinion for flippin' super heavy grass.

I like to use it on traps in the early spring when I am ripping them through the tops of grass.

One line won't do everything for me....I still use mono and fluoro but braid has it's place too.

RWHusker. reply :

We went to Fork and was told to use Berkley Fireline Braid. The point was you came for a trophy why let a line choice loose it for you? I didn't like the Fireline and went back to mono and floro. The Cabela's people talked me into PowerLine Braid and I love it for my worm/jig rig, frog/grass setup. Mono and Floro on the Crank and Spinnerbait set up.

GO BIG RED

Catt reply :

I use Power Pro only when fishing matted Hydrilla for every thing else it Berkley Big Game 15# with absolutely no problems.

flechero reply :

I'm right there with you, justfishin...

I grew up fishing Fork and some other east Texas lakes where heavy grass and wood are the norm. We always used XT, without trouble. Now that I fish the rocky, clearer waters of central Texas, I still use XT without trouble... I tried braid but never found a scenario that it worked better for me. Yes it is more sensitive, but unfortunately, that only made it easier to confirm that I was getting fewer bites with it.

I can see why people would want use it in matted grass and a few other specific scenarios but I just never shared the need.

No offense intended, but I think braid is too often used as a crutch, not a tool, for some people. If you "need" it for this or that then something else is probably missing.

roadwarrior reply :

I think the main reasons river fishermen don't like braid are these:

Abrasion resistance is poor; the line is difficult to manage in wind and we usually create our own when moving on a river; the line is difficult to break when you need to break-off, which is often in river situations; the line digs into the spool, burns and cuts fingers when we deal with hang-ups; knots are a hassel; smallmouth "seem" to be line shy and visibility comes into play; and most importantly, there are better alternatives for the way we fish.

On the positive side: I think braid might be the answer for heavy vegetation and for fishing expensive lures that you DO NOT wish to lose. Fishing $30+ Huds in open water for largemouth is an example. Another is fishing frogs on pads. So, for certain applications, braid is probably the best choice, but I'm still not going to use it again!

surfer reply :

To each their own.

I am a believer in the stuff (suffix), but i still get an occasional knot in it. How can it tie itself around an eyelet so well so quickly? I use spinning reels and have found leaving a 1/4 inch lip when filling the spool is better than 1/8. I figured that out after cutting a dozen knots out then I had a 1/4 inch lip and no more knots.

senile1 reply :

I use braid but I think its wonderful lack of stretch is outweighed by its visibility. I use it only in thick brush and weeds. I don't like the extra work involved in tying on a leader to correct this issue either.

Taliesin reply :

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Right tool for the right job .

To go along with that, the tools have to match up well. If the angler can't use braid (for whatever reason), then it's the wrong tool.

I love braid and use it anytime I can, but I understand that for some people it's not the right choice.

RWHusker. reply :

Great thread, I'm so fickle I'm wanting to restring all but one set up. I'm looking forward to this thread playing out and getting more opinions.

GO BIG RED

fourbizz reply :

i love braid and I use it with a leader on all of my rods except my swimbait rods.

RW, I would be WAY more worried about about losing expensive baits if i was using braid than if I was using my 25lb test PLine. the low abrasion resistance is a big concern with baits like the hudd in the rocks. plus if you make an error and your reel backlashes while casting that 6 ounce bait, you can kiss it goodbye. at least with stretchafilament you have a chance

dave reply :

I fished with Power Pro 12/50 for a couple of years. Tried Yozuri Hybrid on one reel last year and switched all this year. 12# and 15#. It is amazing how braid would wraps around your tip in a blink.

ABC123 reply :

I have 2 setup's with braid, and the rest are mono. The brands of lines may change as I find something I like better, but the type of line on the setup's most likely won't change. Braid has it's place, but it's no doubt not a one size fit's all line. My 2 braid setup's are for vertical jigging/dropshotting with a flouro leader, and direct tie on for casting topwaters and worms. I don't do some of these "new" techniques like flipping, so maybe there are other uses for braid too, but for me it's just 2.

lubina reply :

Sufix braid for jigs and all soft plastics.

.dsaavedra. reply :

i really like my power pro braid:

>good strength to diameter (50lb=12lb diameter)

>tough as a mo-fo! ('nuff said)

>ultrasensitive! (i can feel the individual blades spinning on a spinnerbait, i couldnt do that w/ mono)

>zero stretch (great hooksetting power and pulling power...as needed in thick weeds)

>near zero spool memory (great for finesse fishing where there is alot of slack in the line)

KU_Bassmaster. reply :

I can't say I like it or dislike it. I use it for a couple techniques ...... c-rigging and slop fishing. IMO it's the right tool for those techniques.

The_Natural reply :

Without reading a single post beyond the initial one, I don't use braid. It's just too limp and actually hinders me by wrapping around my rod tip or burying in the spool on a hook set. Also, if you get a bad backlash...you're screwed! There is a happy medium for me...I guess you can say I like my fishing line 'al dente'...not too limp, not too stiff

justfishin reply :

Wow, I am happy about this post. Everyone maintained well. I really thought it would be a shooting match. I am not a braid hater. I just don't like the feel of it. And yes, I can see where it can be a tool for top waters in the spatterdock or in the slop. I personaly will never use it again but, it certainly can be a good tool. Thanks for keeping it kind. Now, about that crappy brittle, too stiff, pure Flourocarbon..................

Bass Hammer reply :

You're one of those guys that likes to play chicken arn't you?

cart7t reply :

I use it on one of my two worm rods, on my C-rig rod as the main line though I use mono or Flouro for the leader and on my flippin/pitchin stick. I've used the stuff since it first came out and it definitely has as many advantages as disadvantages. Superior feel especially with a uber sensitive rod but the line wrap issue is annoying along with the abrasive resistance. Backlashes, line loops, line dig in along with the inability to break off easy when you need to are more minuses.

RWHusker. reply :

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Also, if you get a bad backlash...you're screwed!

I've found the P-Line to be very user friendly on the backlash issue, "or should I say I've seen a friend backlash" and was better than the Spiderwire or Berkley "they" used in the past. Also heard good things about suffix.

GO BIG RED

roadwarrior reply :

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Wow, I am happy about this post. Everyone maintained well. I really thought it would be a shooting match. I am not a braid hater. I just don't like the feel of it. And yes, I can see where it can be a tool for top waters in the spatterdock or in the slop. I personaly will never use it again but, it certainly can be a good tool. Thanks for keeping it kind. Now, about that crappy brittle, too stiff, pure Flourocarbon..................

Don't hijack your own thread!

Start another... 8-)

Gatorbassman reply :

I use braid for one thing only and that's flipping. It sucks on anything else. I use Triple Fish Flourocarbon for my dropshot and senkos and I use Izorline Copoly for everything else.

SPEEDBEAD. reply :

I dont under stand the whole "braid wrapping around the rod tip" thing.

I use braid almost exclusively, and can't for the life of me figure out what you guys are referring to. I just have not had that problem at all...

BadKarma42 reply :

I love braid. Its strong, sexy, and doesn't remember my mistake moments. Its always there for me. I love her. :-*

smallfry reply :

One trip to Fla. inshore fishing really made me rethink my line choices quite a few years back. Now I use braid on probably 90% of my rigs.

All my spinning reels have fireline except 1 which has Flouro. Never have rod wrap, twist, or memory issues. It is more sensitive and further casting than mono or flouro without the memory.

On baitcasters I'd say I have braid on all but my crankbait rod. Had been using stealth but did have some tip wrap. Lately have switched to ultracast which is a little stiffer and haven't had any tip wrap. Same advantages as above.

If I think it is necessary I use a flouro leader. If you know how to tie one it is fast, reliable and long lasting. For my fishing systems, any "hassle" associated with using a leader is well worth the positive trade-offs of the braid.

.dsaavedra. reply :

why do you guys think that tip wrap is only on braid? it happens on any kind of line!

ABC123 reply :

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why do you guys think that tip wrap is only on braid? it happens on any kind of line!

The "new and improved" Trilene XT is the ONLY line I have ever had consistant line wrapping around the tip issues. I had the problem the first couple outings with PowerPro, but since it "broke in", I have not had the issue.

Bass Hammer reply :

I must be blessed....I have never had any line wrap around my tip.

Jeff H reply :

I have PowerPro 50/12 on one setup that I rarely reach for. I use it for pitching heavy cover or slop. For anything else I hate the stuff. I have not had any "wrapping around the tip" problems with it(or XT).

I use the new XT on all my other baitcasters and I love the stuff except I can't throw a country mile with the 17 lb, but then I rarely cast more then 40-50 ft anyway. Except a Trap, I'll fling them for all their worth. I know everyone else has said they hate this line (and I could see that on a spinning reel) but whatever Berkley did to it I like it. It seems tougher, and for a mono, whatever stretch and memory there is doesn't bother me one bit.

The last guy I fished with had PowerPro on ALL his reels and he got out-fished BIG time. He was really frustrated and danced around every excuse in the book but his line. I DO think that was a small part of his problem in the very clear water we were fishing. I never brought it up because I know he'd have had a fit if I did. Not my problem so I didn't care.

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