What type of fishing line (braided, monofilament, fluorocarbon) do you guys prefer for bass and why?
I use all three at one point or another. They each have both beneficial & detrimental properties. To be successful, one needs to select the line that best suits each fishing situation.
And for a beginner - mono is the way to go. Especially for someone learning how to use bait casting tackle.
A-Jay
On 11/29/2016 at 8:43 AM, derekoz22 said:What type of fishing line (braided, monofilament, fluorocarbon) do you guys prefer for bass and why?
All braid, all the time. Why? Because I don't like lines that stretch.
All mono all the time . You confused yet ?
Monofilament line is probably the best choice for a new bass fisherman.
Mono top water
Flouro for anything that sinks
I have a braid that sinks... it's nice. I like braid all the time as well, probably because I'm usually using spinning tackle. Sometimes with a floro leader for weightless plastics.
On 11/29/2016 at 8:56 AM, A-Jay said:I use all three at one point or another. They each have both beneficial & detrimental properties. To be successful, one needs to select the line that best suits each fishing situation.
And for a beginner - mono is the way to go. Especially for someone learning how to use bait casting tackle.
A-Jay
Can I ask why mono is suggested when learning to use a baitcaster? I followed that advice for a while, got annoyed with constant backlashes that required me to cut out line, and decided to give braid a try (it's all I use for my saltwater stuff). Haven't had any issues since. Any backlashes u do get are easily pulled out because the braid doesn't bind to itself under pressure like mono would.
I'm not sure if it's because I switched (I'm used to braid, so it worked better for me.), or I just happened to get better at casting around the same time.
Braid for frogs and most texas rigs and jigs in vegetation, sometimes shakyheads, senkos, ned rigs and other plastics on spinning. Mono or copolymer for most everything else, especially moving baits, topwaters, and anything with trebles.
Fluoro is the only one I don't use.
On 11/29/2016 at 9:33 AM, BrackishBassin said:Can I ask why mono is suggested when learning to use a baitcaster? I followed that advice for a, got annoyed with constant backlashes, and decided to give braid a try (it's all I use for my saltwater stuff). Haven't had any issues since. I'm not sure if it's because I switched (I'm used to braid, so it worked better for me.), or I just happened to get better at casting around the same time.
I don't exactly understand your response but 15 pound mono is about as easy as it gets when learning to cast revolving spool gear, and easy is a relative term.
Also the beginner can sometimes have a few backlashes. If & when the over runs are bad to the point where it can not be "picked out" - cutting it out may be the final option. Cutting out mono that's 9 bucks for 1,00 yards may be more desirable than cutting out other types of line that can & do cost quite a bit more.
A-Jay
I Never use mono to much streach. I use 8 pound floro on my spinning for my super finesse -drop shot , split shot ect
I use 12-16 pound floro on a baitcaster for what I like to call heavy finesse- mostly jerbaits and some crank baits.
Braid on a baitcaster for heavy situations- frogs, jigs and whenever I'm pitching or flipping in cover.
They all have their uses. Mono certainly costs less than fluro or braid but it stretches too. It can sometimes also be about personal choice and preference.
I use only mono because it's cheap. I would use others if I had the money
For worms I use braid with a mono leader
Line debates are always my favorite.
Nylon monofilament most of the time, copoly is my second choice, braided and fc at the bottom.
I used to only use two lines, 50lb Spiderwire braid on the bait casters and Stren 6lb mono on the spinning reels. That's all dad ever used. No leaders either. This year I started trying a bunch of different lines and learned to tie a uni-uni and used a leader on my t-rig rod. Of all the new stuff I tried, I would say 14lb smoke colored Fireline on a spinning reel was the most impressive. Casts an incredible distance, no memory, strong. My biggest disappointment would be P-line CXX 12lb and Flouroclear 6lb. Way too much memory for me, coiled up on top of the water after only a few trips.
Yes, the answer to the question is yes.
I love braid but I use all 3. Fluoro (as a mainline anyways) gets the least use from me. Actually I rarely use straight mono either, it's usually copoly.
On 11/29/2016 at 9:45 AM, Lumbe34 said:I Never use mono to much streach. I use 8 pound floro on my spinning for my super finesse -drop shot , split shot ect
I use 12-16 pound floro on a baitcaster for what I like to call heavy finesse- mostly jerbaits and some crank baits.
Braid on a baitcaster for heavy situations- frogs, jigs and whenever I'm pitching or flipping in cover.
The stretch mono has is equivalent or in some cases less than the stretch of fluorocarbon. The difference is that fluorocarbon stretches and stays that way but it is only a little at a time while mono reverts back and that is why anglers believe one stretches and the other doesn't. I use braid for frogs and heavy flipping only, the rest is done with mono and lately it has been Spider Wire Ultimate Mono, it is very thin diameter compared to other mono lines, it has the abrasion resistance of fluorocarbon yet handles better and has low stretch. My only complaint is that it has more memory than other mono lines, in fact it is similar to fluorocarbon but it a little better and a little KVD L&L works wonders, a small price to pay given the knot strength is vastly superior to fluorocarbon.
On 11/29/2016 at 9:42 AM, A-Jay said:I don't exactly understand your response but 15 pound mono is about as easy as it gets when learning to cast revolving spool gear, and easy is a relative term.
Also the beginner can sometimes have a few backlashes. If & when the over runs are bad to the point where it can not be "picked out" - cutting it out may be the final option. Cutting out mono that's 9 bucks for 1,00 yards may be more desirable than cutting out other types of line that can & do cost quite a bit more.
A-Jay
What I was saying was that I tried mono first on my baitcaster and had lots of issues with it. Haven't had any issues since I went to braid. That's all.
On 11/29/2016 at 8:06 PM, BrackishBassin said:What I was saying was that I tried mono first on my baitcaster and had lots of issues with it. Haven't had any issues since I went to braid. That's all.
Got it. And like I referred to previously here, handling properties of each line are a little different ( and can vary wildly between brands for the same line as well). As you discovered, you prefer those of braid. To each his own.
I like & dislike them all at one point or another.
A-Jay
I fish with monofilament (Trilene XT 14 and 17 pound test) on a baitcaster just about 100% of the time. It works very well for the style of bass fishing I prefer.
Baitcasters - 90% fluorocarbon
Spinning - 90% braid
Why? because.... Actually, braid for handling & line management, and fluorocarbon for density.
-T9
On 11/29/2016 at 8:56 AM, A-Jay said:I use all three at one point or another. They each have both beneficial & detrimental properties. To be successful, one needs to select the line that best suits each fishing situation.
And for a beginner - mono is the way to go. Especially for someone learning how to use bait casting tackle.
A-Jay
This! I tend to use fluoro for my bottom contact baits as much as possible.
I tried floro once and hated everything about it . Maybe I had a bad brand and need to try it again . First , it wouldnt tie a decent knot . It just wasnt flexible enough . Then when trying to worm fish in deep water , it did not slack up when it hit the bottom like mono does . I'm use to mono slacking up like that . Many decades of fishing soft plastics I know it pretty well and when mono slacks up kind of funny . I set the hook .
On 11/29/2016 at 8:56 AM, A-Jay said:I use all three at one point or another. They each have both beneficial & detrimental properties. To be successful, one needs to select the line that best suits each fishing situation.
And for a beginner - mono is the way to go. Especially for someone learning how to use bait casting tackle.
A-Jay
^ hit the nail on the head, couldn't have said it better myself.
On 11/29/2016 at 11:41 PM, scaleface said:I tried floro once and hated everything about it . Maybe I had a bad brand and need to try it again . First , it wouldnt tie a decent knot . It just wasnt flexible enough . Then when trying to worm fish in deep water , it did not slack up when it hit the bottom like mono does . I'm use to mono slacking up like that . Many decades of fishing soft plastics I know it pretty well and when mono slacks up kind of funny . I set the hook .
I was in the Exact Same Situation. However at the start of this past season I Finally Broke down and fished some. I had no choice, the peer Pressure was Brutal ~ !
Anyway, I went with Seaguar InvisX 12, 15, 17 & 20. Used it to present crank baits, lipless bait, jerk baits, & Spinnerbaits as well as jigs & bottom contact baits. I will admit to being extra judicious with all knots, re-tied often and used line conditioner faithfully. I end for ended my spools once and changed it out once in the middle of the summer. It does have some memory & some stretch, but it's not bad. Otherwise IMO, it lives up to it's advertised properties.
Verdict after the whole season of use; I like it and will continue to use it. I didn't break off once nor did I have any mysterious or unexplained line failures. My biggest challenge was remembering that long bomb casts with floro will lack the same hook up stoutness that braid offers. Once I learned to manage that I was good to go. The convenience of not having to use leaders like I was doing with braid is nice. There may be "Better" ones out there, but I'm going to stick with this one for now - baby steps. I still use mono and still use braid (all my spinning).
If you're looking for a reason to give it another go - I may have just given you at least one.
A-Jay
Fins 20# and 60# WindTamer braid.
Sunline Super Sniper 0, 12, 14 # FC for jigs and worms.
Sunline Arillo Diefer Nylon 25# and Blackwater BAWO Toray PI 30# for swimbaits.
Sunline Natural 6# mono for split/ slip shot.
Trilene 12 # Big Game for crankbaits and top water.
Tom
On 11/29/2016 at 6:50 PM, smalljaw67 said:The stretch mono has is equivalent or in some cases less than the stretch of fluorocarbon. The difference is that fluorocarbon stretches and stays that way but it is only a little at a time while mono reverts back and that is why anglers believe one stretches and the other doesn't. I use braid for frogs and heavy flipping only, the rest is done with mono and lately it has been Spider Wire Ultimate Mono, it is very thin diameter compared to other mono lines, it has the abrasion resistance of fluorocarbon yet handles better and has low stretch. My only complaint is that it has more memory than other mono lines, in fact it is similar to fluorocarbon but it a little better and a little KVD L&L works wonders, a small price to pay given the knot strength is vastly superior to fluorocarbon.
I see where your coming from I haven't heard of mono having less streach though I may be wrong. Another reason I use floro is the sensitivity is much higher than that of mono let's me get a great feel for my dropshot or when that crank bouces of a rock or structure.
I use line for the situation. 1}. For plastics I use Floro all the time. I sinks, super sensitive, and tough. Not all Floro's are the same. Trielene Professional grade is my choice. I have no problems with it. 2}. Top water I use Mono, Big Game. It floats and has some give with the treble hooks. 3}. Real thick weeds, pads, and flipping, I use 65 pound braid. The heavier braid has less problem digging into itself.
On 11/29/2016 at 9:59 AM, trick worms said:I use only mono because it's cheap. I would use others if I had the money
Many years ago, I said the same thing. Turns out, I didn't know then what I know now.
A spool of braid (with backing and leader) will cost you far less than spooling most anything else. Because, you will be able to use that braid on that spool for many years. I know that it seems crazy to spend $15, 20 or $30 on a spool of braid when you can get a spool of Stren for $7. Fact is, that the braid will be even cheaper in the long run.
On 12/1/2016 at 12:58 AM, Choporoz said:Many years ago, I said the same thing. Turns out, I didn't know then what I know now.
A spool of braid (with backing and leader) will cost you far less than spooling most anything else. Because, you will be able to use that braid on that spool for many years. I know that it seems crazy to spend $15, 20 or $30 on a spool of braid when you can get a spool of Stren for $7. Fact is, that the braid will be even cheaper in the long run.
I see what you're saying thanks for the advice
I use Braid with a FC leader on baitcasters 90% of the time. I'll use mono on my treble hook setup. Not sold on FC as a mainline. It definitely stretches despite what others say. Try to break the line when you are hung and see how much it stretches. FC as a leader is a good idea in rocky areas due to its abrasion resistance. The biggest benefit to FC is slack line sensitivity, which YMMV. It's not a high priority to me.
On 11/30/2016 at 1:03 AM, A-Jay said:I was in the Exact Same Situation. However at the start of this past season I Finally Broke down and fished some. I had no choice, the peer Pressure was Brutal ~ !
Anyway, I went with Seaguar InvisX 12, 15, 17 & 20. Used it to present crank baits, lipless bait, jerk baits, & Spinnerbaits as well as jigs & bottom contact baits. I will admit to being extra judicious with all knots, re-tied often and used line conditioner faithfully. I end for ended my spools once and changed it out once in the middle of the summer. It does have some memory & some stretch, but it's not bad. Otherwise IMO, it lives up to it's advertised properties.
Verdict after the whole season of use; I like it and will continue to use it. I didn't break off once nor did I have any mysterious or unexplained line failures. My biggest challenge was remembering that long bomb casts with floro will lack the same hook up stoutness that braid offers. Once I learned to manage that I was good to go. The convenience of not having to use leaders like I was doing with braid is nice. There may be "Better" ones out there, but I'm going to stick with this one for now - baby steps. I still use mono and still use braid (all my spinning).
If you're looking for a reason to give it another go - I may have just given you at least one.
A-Jay
InvizX is great for very light line finesse fishing too. I have my drop shot setup with a Stradic FK spooled to 100% flouro - InvizX 6lb and I don't have trouble with it. I keep being tempted to go with braid to flouro leader on this setup but it's been so good as is that I've left it alone.
On 12/1/2016 at 12:58 AM, Choporoz said:Many years ago, I said the same thing. Turns out, I didn't know then what I know now.
A spool of braid (with backing and leader) will cost you far less than spooling most anything else. Because, you will be able to use that braid on that spool for many years. I know that it seems crazy to spend $15, 20 or $30 on a spool of braid when you can get a spool of Stren for $7. Fact is, that the braid will be even cheaper in the long run.
I too thought braid was expensive, but one of my reels has had the same braid on it for 3 years now and still good. Mono for filler a third of a spool and braid the rest of the way and you save even more. Finally talked the wife into 10lb braid for her spinning reel and she loves it. Only time I've ever been right in her eyes! Lol