hello,
so i have a 6'6" med. fast tip rod, right know it is my only rod. what type of line would you suggest? i was thinking 10 or 15 lb. braid? i mainly fish with crank baits, frogs, jigs, spinner baits and some sinkos. any tip would be great!
tight lines,
adam
10 lb PowerPro is what I use on all my spinning rods.
what line color do you like to us?
yes braid is perfect. i would use 10-15lb. i normally use green. then if you want you can tie on a mono or fluoro leader, thats up to you though..
As your only rod I would go to a larger braid, 10 or 15 is not strong enough for frogs or jigs if you are fishing in heavy cover.
i would go 12lb mono, its a good line size for just about any type of bass fishing...
On 4/10/2013 at 12:42 AM, BrianinMD said:As your only rod I would go to a larger braid, 10 or 15 is not strong enough for frogs or jigs if you are fishing in heavy cover.
keep in mind he only has a medium action rod, that's not ideal for a frog anyways lol and too heavy of braid can snap a lighter powered rod on the hookset ive heard
Yo-Zuri Hybrid, 10 lb.
Tom
I use 15-20lb high visibility yellow Power Pro. I don't use anything less than 15. I also use a 3-4 ft leader. That being said I don't use my spinning tackle to fish with frogs or in heavy cover. Braid is great for spinning gear though.
Motomast, thanks I apparently read right over that point. With a medium I wouldn't throw frogs at all or jigs over 1/4 oz.
at the lakes i fish there is not much heavy grass or pad cover, it is mostly rocks and trees.
Becareful with braid and rocks, they do not get along to well...a flouro leader would help.
On 4/10/2013 at 2:05 AM, BrianinMD said:Motomast, thanks I apparently read right over that point. With a medium I wouldn't throw frogs at all or jigs over 1/4 oz.
ya i did to at first to , i thought he said it was a MH, then i reread it and saw m and thought tomyself, a M rod and frogs dont go good together
I have rods with the same specifications and use 15# Power Pro. I use them in heavy cover and I know that the line breaks at considerably higher than its stated strength.
I would probably bump up to 20-30 lb braid...but I am the overkill master. Most of my spinning reels run 12 lb. P-line CX or flouroclear with no real issue in manageability. I plan on pushing the envelope a bit more this year by running 15. lb. P-line CX on one of my setups.
Seeing as you are only useing 1 oufit to cover all your bases,
I suggest you use 20# braid with and without a leader depending on technique and cover.
The only thing that would scare me useing braid for would be for treble hook baits..cranks, jerk's etc.
When you get a hit just give it a steady but strong [not forcefull] sideway hook set with a fairly loose drag setting, or backreel.
I agree with the Brain and Basscrazy, useing a med spinning rod to throw throw frogs, regardless of the line wouldnt be ideal.
Mike
On 4/10/2013 at 12:46 AM, Red Earth said:i would go 12lb mono, its a good line size for just about any type of bass fishing...
I would perosnally rather be shot than be forced to use 12lb. mono on a spinning reel unless its a 4000 size, but I'm a total primadonna about line management . I'd go with 15lb. braid (I'm partial to sufix 832) and a 10 or 12lb. fluoro leader (anything but Seagar Red, which I hated).
The size of the reel is important if you plan on using mono or copoly, I would not go heavier than 8# on a 2000 reel, smaller reels I would use 4 or 6#. I will always pick braid, 10 or 15# is good but 20# isn't that much thicker and line capacity for bass fishing is not a major concern. As said a 6'6 med rod is not the best choice for frogs, but if this pretty much an all purpose set up and that's what you got don't hesitate to use them.
On 4/10/2013 at 2:22 AM, motodmast said:ya i did to at first to , i thought he said it was a MH, then i reread it and saw m and thought tomyself, a M rod and frogs dont go good together
i frog fish with M rods just fine, never seemed to have a problem setting the hook...
On 4/10/2013 at 12:24 PM, SissySticks said:I would perosnally rather be shot than be forced to use 12lb. mono on a spinning reel unless its a 4000 size, but I'm a total primadonna about line management . I'd go with 15lb. braid (I'm partial to sufix 832) and a 10 or 12lb. fluoro leader (anything but Seagar Red, which I hated).
i use 4000 sized spinning reels for the most part...
I have been fishing #4 & #6 Yo-Zuri Hybrid for years. I am currently experimenting
with #10 Tuf-Line with #6 Tatsu leader. Results to be posted after a few outings on
this rig.
On 4/10/2013 at 11:45 PM, Red Earth said:i frog fish with M rods just fine, never seemed to have a problem setting the hook...
i use 4000 sized spinning reels for the most part...
Me too, I do not have any problems setting a frog hook with Medium powered rods with mono. The OP can use a 6'6'' Medium powered rod to do anything he wants to do. As long as he is using braid with a leader or yozuri hybrid in 6#. Mono works too, you might want to go 8lb though.
4000 sized spinning reels are just about perfect for bass fishing. 240 yards of 8lb line is just enough to get by. And if you are using 10# braid, that also will be great on a 4000 sized reel. It takes me a few spools, but then I don't have to worry about putting new line on because braid lasts a long time.
4000 series for freshwater?
I think you will find the 2500 MUCH more user friendly.
OP, if you only have 1 setup to cover everything for fishing. You should seriously consider getting yourself another setup. There could be many reasons you can't, so I will go out and say you are best using Mono. 8lb for spinning gear is pretty versatile. Seaguar Senshi or Suffix Siege.
Yozuri sinks = not good for floating applications
Braid and trouble hooks don't get along
Braid with a fluorocarbon leader = Buying two spools of line, when you could be saving that money for a new rod/reel setup which is needed since a medium powered rod can't cover all of your techniques well.
Mono = topwater, jerkbaits and crankbaits well, will do the rest good enough without any serious conflictions. When mono was all that was available, people got by just fine.
On 4/11/2013 at 8:36 PM, roadwarrior said:4000 series for freshwater?
I think you will find the 2500 MUCH more user friendly.
Freshwater fish can get very large. The 2500 will be user friendly because it is lighter, but it can't handle large muskie pike, even sturgeon found in the St. Clair. I would not want to catch a large catfish with a 2500 series reel either. I can put either 4lb mono eqivalent line, or 30lb equivalent mono line on my 4000 series reel. That is what I call versatility. If the diameter bothers anyone, then just tie a leader, I have read many members on here that say tying a leader solves all of the problems that the main line has. So you could pretty much have ridiculous versatility with that setup. 30lb mono equivalent line, go out and fish for whatever you want. If you think you might hook something large, use it straight, something smaller, add a leader.
More drag strength, more line capacity, more versatile, and less user friendly. It wins 3 out of 4 for me.
On 4/11/2013 at 8:40 PM, skeletor6 said:Yozuri sinks = not good for floating applications
No, it floats as a result of "surface tension". From a fishing perspective Yo-Zuri
is neutral. Without a lure or weight the line will remain on the surface, but once
submerged it will not float up. This has absolutely no impact on any fishing application.
On 4/10/2013 at 1:51 AM, tholmes said:Yo-Zuri Hybrid, 10 lb.
Tom
X2....or even the 12lb. You get the strength of a larger lb. line with the dia. of a smaller.
On 4/11/2013 at 8:36 PM, roadwarrior said:4000 series for freshwater?
I think you will find the 2500 MUCH more user friendly.
yep, not all my reels are that big, but most are. i do a lot of catfishing and some striper fishing too, i like bigger lines for those so i need bigger reels unless i want to cast down to an empty spool everytime, which would be foolish. but i also use them for bass fishing at times too. of course, im not so worried about a combo being a few ounces heavier, or line wary fish, or none of that stuff. bass have no problem eating lures on the end of 20lb mono...
15-20# braid is my choice if you are fishing largies in vegetation
I use 15# braid with a mono leader if fishing clear water smallies
On 4/10/2013 at 12:28 AM, akiy said:what line color do you like to us?
Yellow PP. I do use a leader (FWIW), but the yellow helps with visibility, and when it lays on the surface and a fish nips your bait, the line jumps. That and braid transfers great feel, too.
On 4/11/2013 at 9:55 PM, roadwarrior said:No, it floats as a result of "surface tension". From a fishing perspective Yo-Zuri
is neutral. Without a lure or weight the line will remain on the surface, but once
submerged it will not float up. This has absolutely no impact on any fishing application.
To each their own. You can fish yozuri for topwater applications if you want to, but I have found that its buoyancy effects the action of the topwater bait. When you pop/walk/imply action or whatever depending on the bait, the line goes under the water .Per your theory, it is going to want to stay underwater effecting the next action applied. I've fished topwater with yozuri and mono side by side, mono allows the bait to act much more naturally. When the line sinks with mono, it wants to pop back up for the next action. Yozuri or any hybrid for that matter does not fish topwater as well as straight monofilament line.
I have found almost all details of Hooligan's experiences to be accurate and unbiased. Fish what you may, but I feel it is somewhat misleading to say Hybrid line is going to fish topwater as well as monofilament. Once surface tension is broke, the tension on top of the water due to hydrogen bonding is lost. Thus it will desire to remain in its current sunken state. Monofilament and its buoyancy will want to float, it sinks, it will want to rise back up the perfect scenario for a topwater bait as you want your line to remain on top. Yozuri sinks, it wants to stay underneath, the wrong scenario for topwater applications.
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On 4/11/2013 at 8:52 PM, Virtuoso said:Freshwater fish can get very large. The 2500 will be user friendly because it is lighter, but it can't handle large muskie pike, even sturgeon found in the St. Clair. I would not want to catch a large catfish with a 2500 series reel either. I can put either 4lb mono eqivalent line, or 30lb equivalent mono line on my 4000 series reel. That is what I call versatility. If the diameter bothers anyone, then just tie a leader, I have read many members on here that say tying a leader solves all of the problems that the main line has. So you could pretty much have ridiculous versatility with that setup. 30lb mono equivalent line, go out and fish for whatever you want. If you think you might hook something large, use it straight, something smaller, add a leader.
More drag strength, more line capacity, more versatile, and less user friendly. It wins 3 out of 4 for me.
This is a bass forum. Most posters are going to suggest gear better suited to that type of fishing. I went from spinning reels to baitcast reels because I didn't like the long reach to pick up the line with my rod hand. 125 yards of line is more than I will ever need with the fishing I do. Would I like to catch Muskies, huge catfish and Sturgeon? Darn tootin I would, but it ain't going to happen.
1st choice Yozuri hybrid ultra soft. 6lb (11lb break point)
2nd choice 20lb Power Pro. with or without a leader
most decent spinning reels come with a spare spool.
For bass a 2000 or 2500 size reel generally is better size, but not always. Some 4000 reels may balance better on a heavier or longer rod, I like to match my reel to the rod or vice versa. Quite true a 4000 reel can have upwards of 20# of drag and even more, but if you set your drag to your line, the drag setting will about the same as the 2000 size. The line type of choice is always a personal decision, just about all lines break well over the number on the label, imo diameter of the line is what I look at.
What does the rod say?
What are the paramaters written on the rod regarding line test and bait weight?
Stay within those paramaters and the rod will perform as promised.
Go above and break the rod; go below and your casting will be hindered.
And look at your spinning reel. Do the line tests match those of your rod?
This is part of the "balance your rod" formula.
In the future when shopping for new rods always check the line test and bait weight to make sure it is within the areas you like to fish.
kvd uses 4000 size spinning reels.i think he does it because you get less line twist on the bigger spool.a lot of pros use this size.
On 4/11/2013 at 8:36 PM, roadwarrior said:4000 series for freshwater?
I think you will find the 2500 MUCH more user friendly.
i would use power pro super slick in 20 lb test.