I've recently been fishing spinnerbaits on straight braid, and was wondering what's the best knot to tie. An improved clinch knot slips on the arm and causes a tangled mess and a palomar is difficult to tie on larger lures. I know there are a bunch of knots I could look into but i want to know what you guys think
Try a uni-knot.
A-Jay
ok thanks
You can also do a double uni to attach a mono or FC leader, then the more "conventional" knots will work fine. And you won't be cutting your braid off with every lure change.
Just an opinion, but spinnerbaits aren't that large. Palomar (or double Palomar if you prefer since it's braid) will eliminate the slipping. The only direct tie knot I use on everything from crappie jigs to A-rigs.
-T9
I use a double Palomar as stated.
I also use a Palomar for everything braid.
Just make your loop bigger and use the main line to cinch and tag to tighten.
Mike
On 7/2/2017 at 5:31 AM, Mike L said:I also use a Palomar for everything braid.
Just make your loop bigger and use the main line to cinch and tag to tighten.
Mike
I'll try both double palomar and uni. With the improved clinch the knot slips down the arm and tangles with the blades on the cast. Double palomar should solve any slippage. Thanks guys
On 7/2/2017 at 4:15 AM, A-Jay said:Try a uni-knot.
A-Jay
i like a uni knot as well. try 8-10 wraps. its very easy to tie. you can also save line too. Lastly, if you are having trouble, tie the knot without putting it on the lure, leave a big gap, then slide the blade through the gap and cinch. the uni is a slip knot which is why this will work. you can also switch out spinner bait without tying a new knot or weakening your braid.
I also like the uni.
I use the 'Uni-Knot' for all spinning lures and casting lures in both fresh and saltwater.
For everything else I use a doubled-line Bimini Twist
Roger
It's quick and easy to use the improved cinch knot, but retie often as it doesn't hold as well as the uni or palomar. For a smaller spinnerbait, you can use a palomar, but since most spinnerbaits are a decent size, I usually use a uni knot and it tends to hold very well on mono and braid alike. I will usually use 5-7 wraps when attaching a lure with a uni-knot.
I've actually seen people test the palomar vs the double palomar, and the regular palomar won every time so I never bother with the double palomar, although on braid the double palomar might be stronger. It tends to hold fine for me regardless.
Palomar is what I use for them, but I fish mine on copolymer instead of braid. As long as the knot doesn't slip, it shouldn't really matter with braid.
Palomor with straight braid.
On 7/2/2017 at 5:31 AM, Mike L said:I also use a Palomar for everything braid.
Just make your loop bigger and use the main line to cinch and tag to tighten.
Mike
I use the Palomar on every hook or lure, like Mike main line to cinch & tag end to tighten.
DO NOT tighten with the main line or you will get these cute little coils above your lure.
I believe guys or gals who have problems with a Palomar don't know how to properly tie it.
Once cinched down & tightened, cut the tag end off, then wrap the main line a couple times around your hand & grab the spinnerbait by the head (keeping your fingers out of the way of the hook) & pull.
Now any knot you tie will after 3-4 decent fish will slide.
I find myself using the uni more and more these days.
The improved version with an extra wrap around the wire and a few extra wraps up the line, works well
FORD, CHEVY or CHRYSLER
Whatever switches your flip!
I'm pretty sure more than one will get the job done!
I use a Palomar on just about everything except spinnerbaits. I use improved clinch for them. But I fish it on copolymer too.
I use Trilene knot or Palomar, no slippage with either.
so is the San Diego Jam knot for everything a bad idea than
On 7/3/2017 at 3:14 AM, bh91 said:so is the San Diego Jam knot for everything a bad idea than
Not if it works for you.
Been using uni knot for years.Braid,mono,fluro,doesn't matter,never had a problem with that knot.
I was going to add this earlier, but got sidetracked...a problem I have her in NW WI is that our resident pike and musky also like spinner baits...this big girl took a 1/2 oz. red and black spinner bait:
That's my friend Brian, 47 1/2" musk7, Lake of the Woods, June 2016
At that point, the knot I use doesn't make much difference...gotta have a leader...which means you gotta have a snap...so...no knot...
On 7/3/2017 at 12:18 AM, Jeff H said:I use Trilene knot or Palomar, no slippage with either.
By slippage do you mean the knot failing? In my case it's the knot itself sliding down the arm of the spinnerbait. Is this normal, and could I tie something where the wire bends to prevent it?
On 7/3/2017 at 8:44 AM, pondbassin101 said:
By slippage do you mean the knot failing? In my case it's the knot itself sliding down the arm of the spinnerbait. Is this normal, and could I tie something where the wire bends to prevent it?
Slipping in the knot usually means that the tag end of the line slowly works its way back though the twists and turns of the knot itself.
More a phenomenon of braid, and in some cases fluorocarbon.
Sometimes taking the simple step of tying an overhand knot in the tag end and snugging it tight to the other knot can minimize this...but there are some knots that just don't slip...at least not enough to matter.
On 7/3/2017 at 8:44 AM, pondbassin101 said:
By slippage do you mean the knot failing? In my case it's the knot itself sliding down the arm of the spinnerbait. Is this normal, and could I tie something where the wire bends to prevent it?
No knot failure. My knots don't slip down the wire. I HAVE had it happen(very rare), but a new knot always remedies it.
Here's my guess....lots of us using different knots are not having this issue so maybe you need to get your knot tighter. Beyond that, I don't know what to tell you.
On 7/2/2017 at 4:01 AM, pondbassin101 said:I've recently been fishing spinnerbaits on straight braid, and was wondering what's the best knot to tie. An improved clinch knot slips on the arm and causes a tangled mess and a palomar is difficult to tie on larger lures. I know there are a bunch of knots I could look into but i want to know what you guys think
See picture and notice the little piece of plastic that is slid over the bend. This will keep the line from sliding on the wire. This particular brand(Secret Weapon) came with the piece but you can make your own out of heat shrink tubing or small fuel tubing from hobby shop or tiny rubber band.
As far as knot the Fish-n-Fool knot is like the uni knot just wrap around wire twice instead of once like the uni. The FnF knot is also proven stronger than the palomar knot and uses less line to tie.
On 7/3/2017 at 11:31 AM, QUAKEnSHAKE said:See picture and notice the little piece of plastic that is slid over the bend. This will keep the line from sliding on the wire. This particular brand(Secret Weapon) came with the piece but you can make your own out of heat shrink tubing or small fuel tubing from hobby shop or tiny rubber band.
As far as knot the Fish-n-Fool knot is like the uni knot just wrap around wire twice instead of once like the uni. The FnF knot is also proven stronger than the palomar knot and uses less line to tie.
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I really like that approach too. As I mentioned above, I wind up using a wire leader on my spinner baits most of the time...which means I have to avoid baits that don't have a twist to stop the snap from sliding down the wire.
This'll make that a non-issue.