Considering trying flouro 2024
Chief250 reply :
I've been a 100% braid guy from the get go including braid to leader for a lot of applications. I'm considering trying straight flouro on my 893/bantam mgl jig rod because I just haven't done it before. I've also had a few leader knot failures and wouldn't mind not having to deal with the knot going through guides. If I did spool one reel up it will most likely be tatsu unless anybody has suggestions on a better no fuss line.
A couple questions
* what line size will be the most versatile? I'll be throwing jigs but I'll throw a bunch of stuff on that rod including a six inch senko, 15lb tatsu?
*Do I need to do anything special when putting it on the reel?
*Will I notice much sensitivity loss switching from braid to leader?
roadwarrior reply :
Tatsu #12 will spoil you
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Chief250 reply :
On 9/29/2019 at 2:43 AM, roadwarrior said:Tatsu #12 will spoil you
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Any concerns with 12 on my setup fishing around grass? 1/2 ounce and under jig hooksets won't be a problem?
roadwarrior reply :
No problemo.
FishTank reply :
On 9/29/2019 at 2:50 AM, Cheif250 said:Any concerns with 12 on my setup fishing around grass? 1/2 ounce and under jig hooksets won't be a problem?
I used a spool of 12lb for almost 3 years for jigs and soft plastic around rocks, trees, stumps, and grass. I never had to re-spool. The line just finally wore out. I did use a little mono backing so I could spool up two reels with with it. I would say this is the best line I have ever used. As far sensitivity goes, it is pretty amazing.
Chief250 reply :
On 9/29/2019 at 2:51 AM, roadwarrior said:No problemo.
Thank you. I'm now excited. On the sensitivity thing, do you notice much difference?
On 9/29/2019 at 2:56 AM, FishTank said:I used a spool of 12lb for almost 3 years for jigs and soft plastic around rocks, trees, stumps, and grass. I never had to re-spool. The line just finally wore out. I did use a little mono backing so I could spool up two reels with with it. I would say this is the best line I have ever used. As far sensitivity goes, it is pretty amazing.
Thank you
Junger reply :
I like fluoro for jig type fishing where line belly can be annoying. For moving baits and heavy cover like pads, hydrilla, I use braid.
WRB reply :
Your reel holds 110 yards of whatever Shimano considers 12 lb line dia is. All premium FC line are smaller dia then the average 12 mono, meaning your reel should hold about 120 yards of 12 lb FC. Tatsu comes in 200 yard spools, you may want to use some of the old line for backing.
FC line including Tatsu has a tendency to spring off the reel spool unless line conditioner is added. As far as sensitivity Tatsu isn't superior to to other premium FC line. Tatsu is superior in overall performance.
Tom
NHBull reply :
12#Tatsu is the most manageable FC, but there are more than just a few equally as sensitive.....shooter and sniper to name a couple
FryDog62 reply :
On 9/29/2019 at 9:38 AM, NHBull said:12#Tatsu is the most manageable FC, but there are more than just a few equally as sensitive.....shooter and sniper to name a couple
Sniper is 95% of whatever Tatsu is for half the price. But if you have disposable scratch buy Tatsu...
Russ E reply :
On 9/29/2019 at 11:50 AM, FryDog62 said:Sniper is 95% of whatever Tatsu is for half the price. But if you have disposable scratch buy Tatsu...
This^^.
Sniper is my go to fluorocarbon line.
i used Tatsu on 2 reels for one season. it is good line, but honestly I did not see enough advantage over sniper to justify the price.
NorthernBasser reply :
I use 16 lb Sniper for my jigs and Texas Rigs and have no complaints.
Scrapiron reply :
I did the same recently- try Fluro after being a braid to leader guy. So far I’m enjoying the switch.
Bit the bullet and went with Tatsu- 15# on on rod and 8# on another (both baitcasters). Use spray/lube before each trip and have only had one over-run which was my fault (not paying attention).
I’ve got some 16# Sniper but find the Tatsu more manageable.
Preytorien reply :
On 9/29/2019 at 2:43 AM, roadwarrior said:Tatsu #12 will spoil you
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I agree, I've tried the others, and I can say with confidence, save your nickels and dimes and splurge for the Tatsu. It won't disappoint you.
NorthernBasser reply :
For the cost of Tatsu, you shouldn't have to use line conditioner.
Team9nine reply :
On 10/1/2019 at 8:30 AM, NorthernBasser said:For the cost of Tatsu, you shouldn't have to use line conditioner.
You don't have to. You just need to become a more experienced caster 
NorthernBasser reply :
On 10/1/2019 at 9:19 AM, Team9nine said:You don't have to. You just need to become a more experienced caster
FTR, I've never tried Tatsu. Just referencing people who mention using line conditioner with it.
Team9nine reply :
On 10/1/2019 at 11:18 AM, NorthernBasser said:
FTR, I've never tried Tatsu. Just referencing people who mention using line conditioner with it.
Not “talkin’ to you” specifically - lol. Like you, just referencing that same group of people.
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
On 9/29/2019 at 2:50 AM, Cheif250 said:Any concerns with 12 on my setup fishing around grass? 1/2 ounce and under jig hooksets won't be a problem?
The stretch is going to be the most noticeable difference. Hated 10 and 12 pound on bottom presentations went to 16 pound and that is bearable. You might need a little more oomph on your hookset than what was needed with braid. You will work a little more getting the jig through weeds rocks stuff in the way as well.
LegendaryBassin reply :
On 9/29/2019 at 9:31 AM, WRB said:Your reel holds 110 yards of whatever Shimano considers 12 lb line dia is. All premium FC line are smaller dia then the average 12 mono, meaning your reel should hold about 120 yards of 12 lb FC. Tatsu comes in 200 yard spools, you may want to use some of the old line for backing.
FC line including Tatsu has a tendency to spring off the reel spool unless line conditioner is added. As far as sensitivity Tatsu isn't superior to to other premium FC line. Tatsu is superior in overall performance.
Tom
Line conditioner is not needed. But is beneficial on higher memory lines due to the stiffness. I don't use line conditioner on Tatsu, Sunline Super FC, Seaguar Invizx, Gamma Edge, and a couple others. Yes tatsu is among the top fluorocarbon lines in terms of sensitivity. Shooter, Sniper, and Tatsu are among the best. In terms of overall best lines Gamma Edge and Seaguar Tatsu reign supreme.
WRB reply :
On 10/1/2019 at 10:12 PM, LegendaryBassin said:Line conditioner is not needed. But is beneficial on higher memory lines due to the stiffness. I don't use line conditioner on Tatsu, Sunline Super FC, Seaguar Invizx, Gamma Edge, and a couple others. Yes tatsu is among the top fluorocarbon lines in terms of sensitivity. Shooter, Sniper, and Tatsu are among the best. In terms of overall best lines Gamma Edge and Seaguar Tatsu reign supreme.
FI have only been using FC line the mid 90's bass fishing, earlier off shore big game fishing.
FC line doesn't hold any moisture and sheds water, line conditioner allows FC line to moisten the surface. Dry line in in hor Dry climates wherecI fish is nearly impossible to cast do to it's memory. Adding moisture to FC is essential to manage it.
In regards to what brand is better than others is a personal experience factor. Tatsu is Seaguar top of the line offering. I started with Sunline Shooter FC in '93 followed by Sniper when it was introduced in lower lb test then Shooter for finesse spinning.
When Shooter price point increased from $35 for 300 meters to $35 for 100 meters. I tried Tatsu when it first was introduced @ $45 for 200 yards. Both Shooter and Tatsu have equal knot strength per diameter line, about 80% label lb test tying perfect knots with the load rate equal to hook sets. I consider Tatsu and Shooter equal in nearly every performance criteria.
Toray Solaroam Bass Hi Class is another good quality FC line with less memory and higher knot strength then either Tatsu or Shooter/Sniper it until the price went from $35 for 100 meters to $35 for 86 yards and became difficult to find.
I have tried nearly every premium FC over the past 25 years and they all have the same marginal knot strength issues breaking at random moments.
Tom
PS, Gamma Edge is over size per lb test then Seaguar or Sunline, always evaluate line by diameter.
LegendaryBassin reply :
On 10/2/2019 at 1:09 AM, WRB said:FI have only been using FC line the mid 90's bass fishing, earlier off shore big game fishing.
FC line doesn't hold any moisture and sheds water, line conditioner allows FC line to moisten the surface. Dry line in in hor Dry climates wherecI fish is nearly impossible to cast do to it's memory. Adding moisture to FC is essential to manage it.
In regards to what brand is better than others is a personal experience factor. Tatsu is Seaguar top of the line offering. I started with Sunline Shooter FC in '93 followed by Sniper when it was introduced in lower lb test then Shooter for finesse spinning.
When Shooter price point increased from $35 for 300 meters to $35 for 100 meters. I tried Tatsu when it first was introduced @ $45 for 200 yards. Both Shooter and Tatsu have equal knot strength per diameter line, about 80% label lb test tying perfect knots with the load rate equal to hook sets. I consider Tatsu and Shooter equal in nearly every performance criteria.
Toray Solaroam Bass Hi Class is another good quality FC line with less memory and higher knot strength then either Tatsu or Shooter/Sniper it until the price went from $35 for 100 meters to $35 for 86 yards and became difficult to find.
I have tried nearly every premium FC over the past 25 years and they all have the same marginal knot strength issues breaking at random moments.
Tom
PS, Gamma Edge is over size per lb test then Seaguar or Sunline, always evaluate line by diameter.
Never used line conditioner and I throw super fc, sniper, invizx, tatsu, and gamma. No problems at all. I am aware of Gammas line diameter but I wasn't evaluating any line by diameter so no idea what that reference was to.
Shimano_1 reply :
I wouldn't attempt fishing a jig or t rig around grass with 12 lb. I've broke 15 lb a few times on hooksets. Moved up to 20 for this rod and haven't broken off since. Weight of the fish, power of you swinging, grass rubbing the line all simultaneously =bad things for small line in my opinion
pauldconyers reply :
On 9/29/2019 at 12:15 PM, Russ E said:This^^.
Sniper is my go to fluorocarbon line.
i used Tatsu on 2 reels for one season. it is good line, but honestly I did not see enough advantage over sniper to justify the price.
Hmm, for some reason I was thinking you were an InvizX guy
WRB reply :
The bottom line with FC 95% of the bass caught are under 4 lbs by every member on this or any other bass fishing forum. The vast majority of bass caught are under 3 lbs, yet bass anglers believe they need line lb test 300% heavier then the bass they catch.
If you use 12 lb FC with 10 lb knot strength you should be able to hook and land any bass you catch, unless that bass exceeds your line lb test.
I get good hook sets at 40 yards using 10 to 12 lb mono and FC using jigs 3/8 to 3/4 oz.
It's not the line strength, it's your ability and skill to detect strikes, hook and control the bass.
The only reason anyone needs braid is the line cuts through aquatic plant and heavy cover the bass tends to tangle line around. The bass isn't stronge enough to break the line, you break the line trying to pull the fish out of cover.
Use whatever FC you have confidence tying your lure or hook onto.
My pet peeve with line mfr's is line diameter verses lb test rating. Labeling .013 dia line 10 lb test when it's 15 lb test so anglers think it's stronge line. Bass anglers accepting the labeling as thick line vs thin line is beyond my comprehension.
Peace,
Tom
Boomstick reply :
I have been using flurocarbon for a couple of years now. Every spring, Bass Pro runs a buy one get one free on Berkley Trilene Flurocarbon, and it's been a solid line for me.
For jigs and t-rigs I would use either 15lb or 17lb line. If you are fishing lighter wire jigs, 15lb is fine, but for the larger hooks, 17lb works quite well in most conditions. When I'm throwing in thick weeds, I will use braided line.
Fried Lemons reply :
If you are used to braid FC handles way differently. I know a lot of bass anglers love it but in my experience it tends to jump off the spool on some casts. I’ve tried all the premium lines and all of them do this to some extent. It’s better than braid at detecting bites on semi slack line and keeping some baits deeper in the column.
Line size I will say 12lb is fine for black bass. For heavy cover I suggest braid.
Russ E reply :
On 10/2/2019 at 9:55 PM, pauldconyers said:Hmm, for some reason I was thinking you were an InvizX guy
It isn`t bad, but it has too much stretch for me.
Generally I use flourocarbon for Texas rigs, weightless flukes and jigs.
I seem to get better hooksets with sunline. It also feels more sensitive to me.
lo n slo reply :
my 2 cents
i’ve been using fc for about seven years now. hook set break offs can be an issue for some of us (myself included). pay special attention when tying your knots with fc line. there is some great advice on here. give it some consideration.
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