What is the next rod I should buy 2024
Brewter Beans reply :
I have a jig/frog/Texas rig rod
cranking rod
spinnerbait/chatterbait
and spinning combo
what is one or two more combos that I should get thank you for answering this really helps
pawpaw reply :
Do you ever throw deep cranks like a 6XD, 8XD, 10xd?
Some tissues reply :
well you have it pretty wel covered do you have a pitching and flipping rod? do you fish bass only? Cuz I have some ideas but aren't really bass specific.
Burtonxj reply :
Drop shot
Brewter Beans reply :
No I don't throw any deep cranks because I fish mostly ponds but thanks for asking? Mostly bass and no I don't have a flipping rod I just use my frog jig rod for it mostly but that's a good idea any specific combos you would recommend
Some tissues reply :
Like Burtonxj said for specifics a drop shot or shaky head but u said something about a spinning rod so that could be used for that and senkos but ik some ppl have senko specific rods that's an idea if u like to throw senkos
pawpaw reply :
On 10/25/2016 at 8:10 AM, Brewter Beans said:No I don't throw any deep cranks because I fish mostly ponds but thanks for asking? Mostly bass and no I don't have a flipping rod I just use my frog jig rod for it mostly but that's a good idea any specific combos you would recommend
Assuming your crankbait rod is suitable for topwater, really seems like you have the basics covered then. Maybe your next rod could be one similar to one you already have. Are there ever times you would like to have a spinnerbait and a buzzbait or chatterbait tied on? A Texas rig and a jig or maybe a Carolina rig?
Brewter Beans reply :
Can't throw topwater on cranking rod has floro on it
pawpaw reply :
On 10/25/2016 at 8:25 AM, Brewter Beans said:Can't throw topwater on cranking rod has floro on it
Do you throw topwater enough to justify buying one specifically for it? Maybe double as a jerkbait rod as well? I use mono for both, you?
Brewter Beans reply :
Yeah I probably do lol but if I bought one I would probably wait till next season because I wouldn't be able to use very long I guess it could double for something else like a jerk bait but I don't really throw those much
Some tissues reply :
If it's a buzz bait yeah but something like a spook the floro my have a little affect on the action I actually want to get into some top waters but I have floro on my crank rod too I'm thinking of switching the line to suffix siege
pawpaw reply :
Do you stop fishing during the Winter? Here in the Ozarks the jerkbait is pretty dominant for most of the Winter.
Some tissues reply :
Well ice fishing kicks in in a couple months
pawpaw reply :
On 10/25/2016 at 8:48 AM, Fish yeeter said:Well ice fishing kicks in in a couple months
We're right at the freeze line here. The lakes in the northern part of the state freeze but the ones in the Southern half usually don't.
Brewter Beans reply :
On 10/25/2016 at 8:41 AM, pawpaw said:Do you stop fishing during the Winter? Here in the Ozarks the jerkbait is pretty dominant for most of the Winter.
I'm not going to this year this is my first year of solid bass fishing I'm only 13 and in about April I really got serious with bass fishing I probably fish 6 days a week . But I just can't stand throwing a jerk I don't know what it is but I'm trying to challenge my self to throw them more and become a more well rounded angler
"hamma" reply :
you have a jig/frog/texas rig rod,...did you ever consider, keeping this rod for frogs, and getting a "jig" rod, and a "texas rig" rod? or getting a topwater rod,? re-tying all the time stinks
Brewter Beans reply :
Do any of y'all have some specific combos that you would recommend in the 200-250 range
Some tissues reply :
For spinning or baitcasting
Brewter Beans reply :
On 10/25/2016 at 9:00 AM, Fish yeeter said:For spinning or baitcasting
Baitcast not much of a guy for spinning
pawpaw reply :
That's awesome man. Glad to hear you're into it. Jerkbaits, like a lot of other techniques, may require you to have a good day with them or maybe a really big fish to gain confidence in them. I'm pretty confident when I say if you fish one some this late Winter and early Spring you will have that day. I won't be surprised if your biggest fish of the year is caught on one. Mine has been many times.
Brewter Beans reply :
On 10/25/2016 at 8:57 AM, "hamma" said:you have a jig/frog/texas rig rod,...did you ever consider, keeping this rod for frogs, and getting a "jig" rod, and a "texas rig" rod? or getting a topwater rod,? re-tying all the time stinks
That is a good idea. I feel your pain on re-tying you are not the only one me too I would keep that rod for jigs probably what are your favorite specs and brands
Some tissues reply :
St croix triumph with a shimano citica comes out to about $250 but is a nice combo
Brewter Beans reply :
On 10/25/2016 at 9:03 AM, pawpaw said:That's awesome man. Glad to hear you're into it. Jerkbaits, like a lot of other techniques, may require you to have a good day with them or maybe a really big fish to gain confidence in them. I'm pretty confident when I say if you fish one some this late Winter and early Spring you will have that day. I won't be surprised if your biggest fish of the year is caught on one. Mine has been many times.
Yeah that would be the time to throw them for me because I live in Oklahoma and that's when the ponds don't have a lot of moss and they clear up quite a bit so that would really be ideal jerk bait time too what would be your ideal rod for jerkbaits specs,brand whatever
On 10/25/2016 at 9:04 AM, Fish yeeter said:St croix triumph with a shimano citica comes out to about $250 but is a nice combo
I thought about getting a shimano but the number of bearings kind of scares me. Are they still smooth?
Some tissues reply :
Well some ppl like fast while others like med-fast or moderate if you blaze your baits go with a med-fast or moderate the reason be is because when you jerk the bait through the water with fast you pull the jerk bait much farther than a moderate due to the bend and it is also a treble hook lure so moderate does good for that too
forgot to mention for brands u can't go wrong with Diawa shimano or lews
Edited by Fish yeeterYeajray231 reply :
I wish I had another sensitive spinning set up. For fishing soft plastics weightless.
Brewter Beans reply :
On 10/25/2016 at 9:11 AM, Fish yeeter said:Well some ppl like fast while others like med-fast or moderate if you blaze your baits go with a med-fast or moderate the reason be is because when you jerk the bait through the water with fast you pull the jerk bait much farther than a moderate due to the bend and it is also a treble hook lure so moderate does good for that too
I'd probably go with a mod fast just so could double for a top water rod you think about 7' long
"hamma" reply :
My Favorites? SHIMANO! I have a crucial worm rod with a calcutta 201 on it. I use for bigger worms, and for frogs? I have 2 rods for froggin, a compre 7' med heavy rod, with a old school green curado 201 and a cheapo convergance heavy action, with another 201 curado.
Ironically these are all shimano,
Some tissues reply :
On 10/25/2016 at 9:14 AM, Yeajray231 said:I wish I had another sensitive spinning set up. For fishing soft plastics weightless.
Same I have a old convergence rod I got like five or six years ago not bad but for how much I fish I would like a nicer one for weightless senkos and flukes
pawpaw reply :
The ones I use are Loomis and probably out of most peoples comfort range for a jerkbait rod. I wouldn't recommend buying one unless you throw them alot, which I do. Really any decent 6'-0" to 6'8' medium action rod will work fine. My son has a Shimano Compre ($99) and I like it fine.
Some tissues reply :
On 10/25/2016 at 9:14 AM, Brewter Beans said:I'd probably go with a mod fast just so could double for a top water rod you think about 7' long
Yeah 7' to 6'6" for jerkbaits and topwater rods, Though I love 7' for most except spinning setups I go a bit short I don't generally go over cuz I can't fit the longer rods in my garage and car as well
Advantage reply :
On 10/25/2016 at 8:10 AM, Brewter Beans said:No I don't throw any deep cranks because I fish mostly ponds but thanks for asking? Mostly bass and no I don't have a flipping rod I just use my frog jig rod for it mostly but that's a good idea any specific combos you would recommend
It never hurts to have a 2nd of each kind of rod. That way you can have a frog on one and a jig or t-rig on the other. And a spinnerbait or chatterbait on one and a buzzbait on the other. Etc etc etc.
pawpaw reply :
If you are not 6' tall you will most likely be smacking the water with your rod tip when fishing a jerkbait, spook, pop r etc. on a 7' rod. I like a 6'6" but that's just me.
Brewter Beans reply :
On 10/25/2016 at 9:26 AM, pawpaw said:If you are not 6' tall you will most likely be smacking the water with your rod tip when fishing a jerkbait, spook, pop r etc. on a 7' rod. I like a 6'6" but that's just me.
I'm only 5'5 but I'm still growing I really just like to have a longer rod. I only occasionally hit the water with my 7'3
On 10/25/2016 at 7:15 AM, Brewter Beans said:I have a jig/frog/Texas rig rod
cranking rod
spinnerbait/chatterbait
and spinning combo
what is one or two more combos that I should get thank you for answering this really helps
Here are the specs if you guys were wondering
jig frog 7'3 medium heavy fast
cranking 7' medium moderate
spinnerbait chatterbait 7 mod fast
Spinning 6'6 medium light fast
Some tissues reply :
Yeah probably best to go with a 6'6" I go with 7' cuz I don't have the budget for many rods I only got three rn that's cuz I rather have a few quality rods than many so so rods
Some tissues reply :
Well after seeing what you got there I can only say that I would get a med power fast action baitcasting set up good for wacky rig senkos finesse jigs or just lighter tackle cuz if ur ok with the 7' length then the chatterbait rod can also be a topwater/jerkbait or the crankbait rod u got can be used for top waters but if it's like a buzz bait type topwater I would go with ur chatterbait rod
depending on how heavy your med heavy frog rod is you can us it for pitching and flipping if it's something like a st croix med heavy if not u can invest in something like that
Fishes in trees reply :
It is obvious that you need many more rigs. You don't have a ned rig. You don't have an A-rig set up. To me, a jig rod, worm rod & frog rod = 3 different rigs. I fish the bubba drop shot a lot and have a dedicated rig for that. Maybe consider one. A dedicated drop shot rod is a good idea. A dedicated shaky head rod is a good idea. I always carry a square bill rod.
My advice is to make up your mind and just get one - then get another and then repeat. You say that you just fish ponds & stuff. Is that your plan, to just fish ponds & stuff forever? Consider that as you expand your fishing horizons, you might require different gear. Once upon a time I felt like I wanted to get into tail race fishing, so I HAD to get a rig capable of throwing 1 to 2 ounce slab spoons a hundred yards or so.
If you're sincerely into fishing ponds, a couple of dedicated catfish rods that you can stake down while you prowl the edges of the pond is a good idea. An ultra light to fish for bluegills & stuff is a good idea.
I'm telling you to challenge yourself and make up your mind which rigs you'll need next. Not going into specifics here, but I recently got a lesson about trying to "make do", trying to use one rig to cover multiple presentations. IMO, a compromise choice is seldom a good idea.
I understand that fiscally speaking, often that is the only choice, i.e. getting one rod & reel to cover several different presentations, but IMO that is a bad idea that at some point will come back to bite you.
The short answer to your question, "which rod should I buy next?" You need a ned rig.
Some tissues reply :
Yeah I see where ur coming from with having a rod for everything but it's more of a luxury and for me I probably fish similar bodies of water, ponds and nearby lakes that he normally would I assume he is biking and carrying 2-3 rods. At a time Also there's only so many actions and powers. I always considered length an opinion but can help (Ex. Shorter than 7' is preferred for jerks and tops 7'6" is preferred for flipping and pitching) so I'm pretty sure his spinning setup can be use for shaky head and drop shot maybe make a dedicated rod for the ones he likes or try to throw something like a ned rig and If u Iike it or see yourself using it a lot then go for specialized rod, but having a rod that's not one sided always seemed as a bonus to me
I also noticed u asked me about the lower amount of bearings shimano uses high quality bearings and high quality gearing allowing for smoother reels with less bearing expectant when u get something like a citica or curado with x-ship makes it very smooth
Brewter Beans reply :
On 10/25/2016 at 3:09 PM, Fishes in trees said:It is obvious that you need many more rigs. You don't have a ned rig. You don't have an A-rig set up. To me, a jig rod, worm rod & frog rod = 3 different rigs. I fish the bubba drop shot a lot and have a dedicated rig for that. Maybe consider one. A dedicated drop shot rod is a good idea. A dedicated shaky head rod is a good idea. I always carry a square bill rod.
My advice is to make up your mind and just get one - then get another and then repeat. You say that you just fish ponds & stuff. Is that your plan, to just fish ponds & stuff forever? Consider that as you expand your fishing horizons, you might require different gear. Once upon a time I felt like I wanted to get into tail race fishing, so I HAD to get a rig capable of throwing 1 to 2 ounce slab spoons a hundred yards or so.
If you're sincerely into fishing ponds, a couple of dedicated catfish rods that you can stake down while you prowl the edges of the pond is a good idea. An ultra light to fish for bluegills & stuff is a good idea.
I'm telling you to challenge yourself and make up your mind which rigs you'll need next. Not going into specifics here, but I recently got a lesson about trying to "make do", trying to use one rig to cover multiple presentations. IMO, a compromise choice is seldom a good idea.
I understand that fiscally speaking, often that is the only choice, i.e. getting one rod & reel to cover several different presentations, but IMO that is a bad idea that at some point will come back to bite you.
The short answer to your question, "which rod should I buy next?" You need a ned rig.
I would fish lakes but I can't drive yet but I'm gonna buy a boat when I can drive
On 10/25/2016 at 6:29 PM, Fish yeeter said:Yeah I see where ur coming from with having a rod for everything but it's more of a luxury and for me I probably fish similar bodies of water, ponds and nearby lakes that he normally would I assume he is biking and carrying 2-3 rods. At a time Also there's only so many actions and powers. I always considered length an opinion but can help (Ex. Shorter than 7' is preferred for jerks and tops 7'6" is preferred for flipping and pitching) so I'm pretty sure his spinning setup can be use for shaky head and drop shot maybe make a dedicated rod for the ones he likes or try to throw something like a ned rig and If u Iike it or see yourself using it a lot then go for specialized rod, but having a rod that's not one sided always seemed as a bonus to me
I also noticed u asked me about the lower amount of bearings shimano uses high quality bearings and high quality gearing allowing for smoother reels with less bearing expectant when u get something like a citica or curado with x-ship makes it very smooth
I'm glad I don't have to bike I drive a Polaris sportsman atv to the ponds and thanks for letting me be sure about the smoothness of a shimano
Some tissues reply :
Ahh
On 10/25/2016 at 8:19 PM, Brewter Beans said:I would fish lakes but I can't drive yet but I'm gonna buy a boat when I can drive
I'm glad I don't have to bike I drive a Polaris sportsman atv to the ponds and thanks for letting me be sure about the smoothness of a shimano
Ahh here in Chicago it's a little difficult to atv to places lol
WIGuide reply :
Personally I'd ad in another rod for a jig or texas rig. Looking at what you have, you're splitting that single rod between frogs/t-rigs/and plastics. If you're throwing a frog it's always a good idea to have a texas rig tied up to throw back if they miss the frog. As far as a decent combo goes in your price range, I'd recommend a St. Croix Mojo or Avid X rod and pair it up with a BPS Pro qualifier. I've got the 6'8" MH/F Mojo and love it. It's become one of my favorites since I got it earlier this summer.
Some tissues reply :
On 10/25/2016 at 11:24 PM, WIGuide said:Personally I'd ad in another rod for a jig or texas rig. Looking at what you have, you're splitting that single rod between frogs/t-rigs/and plastics. If you're throwing a frog it's always a good idea to have a texas rig tied up to throw back if they miss the frog. As far as a decent combo goes in your price range, I'd recommend a St. Croix Mojo or Avid X rod and pair it up with a BPS Pro qualifier. I've got the 6'8" MH?F Mojo and love it. It's become one of my favorites since I got it earlier this summer.
X2 for this really good idea actually to get a frog specific rod, a mh extra fast or heavy fast depending if u are throwing hollow or solid body frogs
JacksonT reply :
Hello everyone , I'm looking to buy a new rod and reel , I only will have one so I'm looking for a all around setup , I primarily fish soft plastics and jigs but throw the occasional spinner bait or crank bait . So what gear ratio for the reel and what stats for the rod would be best . Thanks
Some tissues reply :
On 10/27/2016 at 9:52 PM, JacksonT said:Hello everyone , I'm looking to buy a new rod and reel , I only will have one so I'm looking for a all around setup , I primarily fish soft plastics and jigs but throw the occasional spinner bait or crank bait . So what gear ratio for the reel and what stats for the rod would be best . Thanks
Medium power moderate fast action with 6:3:1 baitcaster
JacksonT reply :
On 10/27/2016 at 11:42 PM, Fish yeeter said:Medium power moderate fast action with 6:3:1 baitcaster
Thanks my dude
fishnkamp reply :
Jackson that is easy the most versatile baitcaster is a 6'6" mh to a 7 foot mh 1/4 to 3/4 and a 6.3 to one reel. Fill it with 10 to 14 pound mono. This is not the BEST at anyone thing but will perform well for many things.
Brewter Beans lets talk specifics and here is where I would head you. First lets look at your spinning gear and maximize its use. That rod should work great for floating worms, unweighted plastics like worms, creature baits, Ned rigs, Sencos, and lightly weighted texas rigs and grubs. My wife and I own G Loomis rods like yours and often fish our plastics on a Bass Pro Perfect worm hooks so we can rig one way and just change from a worm to a grub, etc. Add the Reaction Innovation Skinny Dippers to your baits. They catch fish weight less, or with either a belly weighted swimbait hook or a fish head style heavier jig head. The fish head style jig head would be too much for this rod but would work great on the next rod.
I would add a 6'6 to 7' medium fast action finesse spinning rod, Here we throw shakey heads, heavier ( up to 1/2) texas rigs, Sensos, small to mid sized floating minnow baits like Rapalas. A floating/ diving Rapala is a killer on a pond. So is a tiny torpedo or a jitterbug. They throw really nice on this rod. I am not sure what your budget is but if you can afford it look at the Abu Garcia Ike series finesse spinning rod model IKE705. It runs $130 and I would match it with a 6930 or 6935 Pflueger president. If your budget can not go that high ( and I understand I was 15 once too) let me know I will find a similar rod at a lower cost.
Lets look at your frog/ jig /texas rig rod. Does it throw frogs or texas rigs and jigs better? This helps you decide to go with a jigs and plastics rod or more of a dedicated frog rod. My plastics/ carolina rig rod specs 7 foot, 1/4 to 1 1/14,mhH fast. My favorite jig rod specs 6'8" mh 1/4 to 3/4. Here is whereyou will have to make a decision which way to go. Consider a Dobyns Fury FR 703c 1/4 to 3/4 for jigs and texas rigs or a dedicated frog rod like the FR 735C frog/ flipping/pitching rod which could double for throwing heavier carolina rigs as well.These are really nice rods. They are built and fish like rods costing double their price.
My future rod, after those, would be a dedicated jerkbait rod like the 6'4 Ike Delay series rod. It was specifically designed to throw jerkbaits with the proper rod action and a shorter split grip handle to eliminate smacking your arm with the retrieve. I love this rod.
blckshirt98 reply :
How about a big fat beefy swimbait rod?
J Francho reply :
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